CAT TQ vs SOFT-T TQ
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2017
- The CAT (Combat Application Tourniquet) by North American Rescue vs the SOFT-T Wide (SOF® Tactical Tourniquet Wide) by Tactical Medical Solutions. These are both very popular tourniquets and are both approved by TCCC committee.
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I recommend to write the time on the forehead of the injured person. The tourniquet is covered in blood so a sharpie won't write well. Also, to prevent shock you put a emergency blanket around the person. The medic team has to search for the timestamp. If it has written on the forehead the medic team sees it in a pinch. 👍
I've learned to write it as followed :
* T (for tourniquet)
* 0000 (current time of application)
Wright now it would looks like this:
T2304
D VoZ fully agree
i agree but one minor change most civilians do not know military time and so i would say for civilians doing regular time is fine and faster because in a emergency trying to figure out military time is wasting time.
We were told to write the on the timestamp in blood if need be, but that is a good solution to write on the person with the marker
Seconded! That's the old way of doing it but it sure works.
I literally scrolled down to comment the same thing... Good Idea!
I just started carrying Med in my EDC. I went with the SOFT-T. ... Thanks for the tip about putting a knee on the femoral artery.
Great vid! Thanks Brother!
Oh shiiiit sootch in da house
Great vid Skinny! Firefighter Medic, Pro Skipatrol here … IMHO, both are great! The CAT is great for pretty much every situation except snow. The SOF-T is better for Ski Patrollers and backcountry skiing adventures because the Velcro on the CAT tends to fail in snow and colder freezing conditions. It gets packed with snow and ice and will not hold as well. Other than that, both are awesome products that I have personally used! 😎🇺🇸
Just took a class yesterday using both. I liked how the soft T could be undone so you didn't have to slide it all the way up a limb, but if you weren't careful the strap would turn sideways when pulling tight. I will still run both in my kits though.
Awesome bro. Woke up to order these for the first time. Knew you would have a video to explain this. Thanks so much!
Nice overview. That puddle of blood wasn't that big.... looked like how much I'd lose when I started an IV back when I was new! Lol. Thanks for the vid!
I enjoyed your video :) Keep it up!
Love the out takes!
Muchas gracias por la información, me gustan sus videos muy claros
Nice! Keep it up!
Great video!
SOFTT wide:some chaps complain about setting it in the triangle is a bit difficult under stress....but I prefer that to may have to fiddle it through the buckle as with the CAT.....the SOFTT locking mechanism is superior here(imho!)
Also the material of the CAT is more prone to collect debris.
Great vid, great info, the Softt take less space to store in to your ifak! Thank you.
I just got one. I knew I needed one, and finally decided to buy one. I went with the SOF T, only reason being the CAT tourniquets are supposedly only a one time use, so you shouldn't practice with it, as the velcro can wear and not hold anymore, where as that isn't the case with the SOF T. Seems great, feel like I could practice with this thing for eternity without ever worrying about it not being 100% reliable in a real situation
Great video Doc! I wouldn't complain this heat and humidity is everywhere
War story warning: I remember going to EMT school school in the late 80's and being career EMS in the early 90's. Back then if you used a tourniquet for anything less than a traumatic amputation you would need to brace yourself for the walk of shame into the ER. You were also supposed to write the letter "T" on the patient's forehead along with the application time just in case the ER staff was slow on the uptake and missed the tourniquet during their assessment. It's still amazing to me how elevation, pressure points, trendelenburg, etc has gone out the window over the years.
Doctrine changes, and thank god for that.
Agree...there is too much hype about using a tourniquet as a first go to. Read my comments above.
You'd get sued by any and every lawyer that found out you put a pt. In trendelenburg currently
We were taught that week three of emt school. (Week 14 upon adding this comment)
this person's dad not if your EMT is expired and you are protected under Good Samaritan law
I found this video to be very useful. The blood prop adds a good dimension to the video. I have a couple of older generation C.A.T.s; do I need to upgrade or are they still serviceable. Thanks for all you do.
Have you tested the SAM XT Tourniquet from SAM Medical already? Would be interesting, to Hear your opinion on this product.
Thanks for sharing your insights
Awesome vid man. i went with the sof T wide because i was under the impression it was wider than the cat. i guess not. also would you consider selling blood type patches in your store? id like to run my blood type on my IFAK and plate carrier.
Thanks. It made me pull out my cat t and looks like mine is almost 7yrs old. Time for a new one. Thanks
Joe I don't feel quite as bad now: mine is only 4 years old. My new SOF-T just arrived, so I was comparing it to my CAT.
Enjoy the content and shared information. I was wondering if you have heard of or have any field knowledge about the STAT tourniquet?
Very helpfull for. Thank you.
Love seeing the bloopers at the end haha
Question for you guys, I'm off to Asia for a few months and looking at altering my medkit. Thought of taking a swat-t for weight savings but worried about how robust it will be in the crazy climate. So mabe a soft -t would be better. I currently have the last gen cat (red tip) but should I be worried about this standing up to a bit of abuse? Basically concerned about plastic degrading in the climate.
Great vid loved it!
Where did you get the blood resin from? I couldn't understand what you said. it does add a lot. I train and would love to purchase some of those.
Super helpful, you rock
Hey there SM. Would you consider redoing this video?
With you having on a black shirt making up the background, seeing the TQs and what you were doing with them was very hard.
yeah bro. I carry a R.A.T.S., for edc, and have a few cats. definitely worried about breakage at this point(3 or so years old, and I keep them on the outside of whatever bag I'm carrying that day, ALWAYS IN SUN). Either way, been wanting to support your work/shared info for a while, other than the useless TH-cam comments... expect an order from me soon, thanks.
I carry a RATS everyday, simplicity!
Good video. I just purchase two CATs from your site.
Thanks for the vid! I intend to get and use both so I’ll be well familiar in the event I happen upon whatever someone else may deploy in their iFAK👍🏼
Also it appears the Soft-T looks easier to deploy one-handed. Would you say that’s correct?
I have both in my gear ... I think the CAT is easier
Very informative video.
Good vid, both good tools to have.
He He... BTW Pigs don't sweat. They don't have sweat glands. That's why they lay in mud, to cool off! They do squeal though, as in the phrase "Squeal like a pig". Now horses sweat, hence "Sweating like a horse" would have been more appropriate. :-)). (Pigs get a bad rap, they are actually very clean animals. Given a large enough pen they will do their "business" in the furthest corner.)
Thank you for the education on pigs! haha
SkinnyMedic are you familiar with the Reconn brand of tourniquets?
Great video
what about SWAT TQ, have you ever used it or tested it? I know real TQs have windlass, but for EDC kit in the city it might be good due weight and size... I have SOFT-T Wide mainly for the peace of mind that aluminium will not break
Hey Skinny how you doin i like the soft t what gen do you think is better and there's a 2 inch wide one whats your opinion on the difference from the 1.5 inch one.???
Does you know where I can get a basketweave holder for my soft T TQ so I can put on my duty belt?
Which one do you prefer? By your kits ect I'd assume the cat
Can you tell us stories of how many times youve used a tourniquet etc
All new here… but a store that seem to sell all blue force gear for two times the price said I cannot practice with a real one but need a trainer to practice with, is this correct?… i see blue force got a blur trainer, though that is the c-a-t and not the soft T which is the only one they got in storage right now…
Can I train with the cat and still learn to be fast and correct with the soft T or is that not a good idea as a beginner?
I was thinking to order the soft T and the blue c-a-t trainer and their trauma kit now medium with a hammock for the tourniquet…
What do you think?
Thanks!
🙏🏻 I am a fast learner from 🇸🇪 with many Ukrainian friends
Great video 👍
For "modern" America the extra length is probably a good idea.......
😂
Which shows that we eat too much and don’t exercise. Bad for healthcare.
Even for a patient that has an enlarged leg from lymphedemia or other..
I have a cat and I really like it. I like to store it looped so if I need to apply it one handed it should slide onto my arm easier than having to fiddle with the buckle. If I'm applying it to my own leg then I'll probably have both hands
grouch314 damn imagine someone reading this and thinking we are talking about cats... 😂
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Okay you say there are stories of the CAT windlass breaking? Isn't that one of your pet peeve as it relates to counterfeits? Is there a reason that the Cat windlass snapped? It's not like we carry six or seven TQs around with us. So can you shed some light on the breakage?
The only thing that I see as a concern on the Soft T is how the windless is secured. Theres nothing actually "locking" it in place in the triangular clip. A good enough bump to the windless itself could release the tension on the clip and let the windless loose. With the cat this isn't an issue with the way its designed especially with the velcro tab secured over it.
Oh my gosh! That's a lot of cool looking fake blood! :)
I used both kinds of tourniquets on a woman this weekend, both worked and stopped the bleeding.
u used two?
DedSec Sometime it is necessary to use 2 on one limb, believe it or not
Skinny, do you have the newer Soft-T wide on your web site?
Yes I do
Do you sell the soft T
shop.skinnymedic.com/SOFT-Tourniquet-SOFT-T-soft-t.htm
How about recon medical
Would you recommend the RATS for kids?
SWAT-T or the RATS
Great informative video my friend.
Why did you put pressure on the femoral artery?? Was there supposed to be 2 bleeds?
If I'm not mistaken it helps to slow down the blood flow of that specific leg.
where i can to buy this type dummy ??
How do you treat the time strip one it be used once?
Leonard Belcher Only use TQs once. You write the time (24 hour format) you placed the TQ. Once you have deployed it, don't reuse as a main TQ. Clean and keep as a backup. It's contaminated and it's tensile strength can't be trusted. They are cheap enough, especially because they save lives.
When using or displaying black items on your videos wear any other color shirt then black would be best. You "lost" the items in your 👕 or one would say the bleed into your shirt. From a video stance.
@Ugf Ugf, other than your sensitive "video stance' ....the video training was excellent.
I just received my SOF-T ( GEN - 4) and it has a plastic windlass. It also has a plastic clip for the windlass - similar to the CAT- in addition to the plastic triangle. This is my first experience with the SOF-T. It is definitely harder to self deploy than than the CAT.
I wonder if they could be used as a humane option for end of life actions in a non-permissive environment.
can you make some videos "medic 101" ? we have to know the basics to understand those vids because they are a bit advanced to my or our knowledge .
Χαρης Μπαλατσουκας skinny medic offers an all day class for a very reasonable price.
Brett Kos i live in Greece ..
Robert Mackrell thank you.
@haris mpalatsoukas? You're in the French Foreign Legion?
Personally, I prefer the CAT simply because it's easier to put on yourself (even one-handed). But both are excellent tourniquets!
Почему сзади на стенке звезды?
Can you reuse a tourniquet you practice with ?
COUNTRY FAMILY FOR LIFE ! You’re not meant to
Both are great but if you all you care about is reliability you have to go for the SOF. The aluminum isn't going to break even though the plastic only breaks very rarely.
InItForTheParking Funny you mention that, our unit had a meeting recently with US/UK clinicians and one of the questions asked was if the SOF-T was better than the CAT. Apparently the US did some trials and came up inconclusive and all of the surgeons said none of them had seen or heard of a CAT ever failing, as a result both the UK and US continue to use the CAT.
The CAT is easier to use than the SOF. I have a old one made 10 years ago and it still works.
In the Coast Guard we use the CAT through summer and winter. Never had an issue. I do find for self application the CAT is much easier. That's why I carry that one.
I would think since it's plastic it weighs less so it lightens your load.
what are the time stamps for? time when bleeding stops or when the tourniquet is put on?!?
Xavier Sotelo Time when the tourniquet is applied.
LoneWanderer360 very good to know thank you dude.
Also helps as a Just in case to put a T-time(etc. 13:30) on the forehead (permanent marker is good to have in your kit) in case people dont check the tag, or it is obscured by blood or otherwise. Was what they taught us in basic.
Mike Northup I was taught to use the pt's blood on the forehead so you don't get blood on your pen. Kinda fucked up but it works
Yep sharpie or blood, sharpie doesn't flake tho
Im surprised you did not mention how thick the material is on each, the SOF-T tourniquet is far thicker and stronger, for re-usability. These are basically infinitely reusable.
They're not reusable they're one and done. You don't want to be transferring pathogens from someone else's blood to another person
I just got a cat gen 7 myself a few days ago from Amazon and was shocked that it was plastic never had one before. And not sure how I feel about plastic as apparently some of these have broke in the field. That's the last thing you want to worry about someone's bleeding to death and it breaks. It's already bad enough these things can come off easy if not snugged tight.
Think I might get a soft T as well. Hey it's always better to have 2 then 1. But I just feel like this one is probably more reliable because it's metal 🤷🏻♂️. If anything you got to back up if one breaks.
We no longer drop a knee in the groin area. This could cause more trauma.
"the buckle does release" nigga i'd hope so its a buckle
I wonder how many of the CAT tourniquets that have broken were actually look-alikes or bootlegs?
It's worth mentioning that there are a lot of cheap imitations out there (especially with the CAT). I think that's where most of the claims of broken tourniquets come from. Spend the 10 extra dollars for a tourniquet from a quality brand.
OK, I'll ask you the same question I asked Prep Medic. What do you have against Recon Medical tourniquets? They have excellent reviews from Military users as well as civilian.
Why does no one do a review on them? Are you guys so stuck on NAR that nothing else matters?
I am curious to what your medical training is? Do you have any experience or simply review products?
Good video and product review. I am a former Canadian Forces Combat Medic (Airborne) - currently a civilian Paramedic - International Trauma Instructor, I have never needed to use a tourniquet to stop a bleed to date. There is a lot of hype about having a tourniquet.
Direct pressure will stop 90% of all bleeds except arterial. I carry one in my back country kit as I am remote, often hike solo, so it could save my life. A simple triangular bandage and your knife as a windless will also work as an improvised tourniquet.
If you have a buddy the tourniquet is not the first go to if you are treating a bleed. Remember after 45min to 60min, if you are not at medical aid the limb will begin to die due to tissue hypoxia. If you are in the back-country and there is no rescue imminent you may lose your limb. You must remember tourniquet were designed for combat and quick helo evac to a medical trauma team and vascular surgeon.
Paramedic 15 Years ... teach TCCC, PHTLS, ACLS, PALS, and BLS
Current standards are to apply direct pressure and if you can't control major bleeding then you apply a TQ. TQs can be on longer than 60mins, you need to look at some updates on that. The currently standard is 4-6 with out major problems. There are case studies where TQs have been on 12 plus hours, and no loose of limb.
A good commerical TQ is much better than a triangle bandage and a knife.
SkinnyMedic true shit, says 4-6 hours right here in the book I paid 2 months income for. Third time I've opened it all semester.
As a medic nurse and ER Dr and swat physician I have had to use the tourniquets many times. Even in hospital. ESP in hospital with folks on blood thinners and/or dialysis with bleeds. Skill saws to the hands and bullets to the leg. Even for arterial bleeds to slow bleeding to get sewn up. I love em. I use em and I keep plenty with me. Great video.
I've had a cat break on me during training in Hawaii
The SOFT T wide simply sucks for one handed application!
Try to apply it without manipulating your injured arm-not gonna happen....@ least not until there is a lot of the red stuff on the ground-and that doesn't help in administration, or does it
I do like it for buddy help, though-much more so than the CAT T!
Why? =>easier to apply in hazard situations because of the buckle, no Velcro to accumulate debris or wear out in the sun, no plastic to break, longer too
As was said before, the RATS or H&H TK4L is hard to beat for compactness, self application, use on kids and animals.
Stay strong
Might the broken CATs have been cheap knock-offs?
J T we've broken two of the cats when deployed downrange. Luckily we had extra tourniquets and it wasn't US service members that they broke on. Our CLS kits had the cat tourniquets, and we were also issued the softt tourniquet with the aluminum windless for self aid use. Mine still rides in my self aid/buddy aid kit.
@@travistobiasson what Gen were the cats
@@650tonyd I honestly don't remember what gen they were, that was back in 2005-6 time-frame.
I've heard of cats failing in battle. Sof t less likely to break