@@DashCamSerbia natural responses are not present in your average driver nowadays unfortunately. Luckily they have electronic aids nowadays to prevent natural selection.
@@CheapskateMotorsports luckily they have gadgets? Shouldn't that be 'Sadly they have gadgets'? If a car isn't safe without them you simply shouldn't buy them. It isn't you who reaps the fruits of your decision to buy the wrong car, it are those you share the road with.
it is not that he didn't counter steer its that he would have essentially been in an oncoming lane and its either trying to swerve to safety or likely crash head-on
He did say at the end that it wasn't a proper scientific test, and that they need one. Also, Tiff did not counter steer in the Jag either, so it was in a way a similar test.
My dad had a 1977 Morris Marina that had a toughened windscreen. Many vehicles in the era of this Range Rover still had toughened windscreens. It was only until the late 60s that is was UK Law for all vehicles to be manufactured with toughened glass instead of plain glass. Toughened is far better than plain glass because in the event of a crash, at least you won't be cut to shreds. I think is was only until the early 80s when cars started using laminated windscreens.
@@davidyoung9561 my dad had a Italian I remember he went to get it out of the garage one day and the windscreen was shattered for no reason we never did find out why
Moral of the story, If you are in a SUV and the car in front of you brakes suddenly all you should need to do is hit the brakes...especially if you have the correct following distance. And don't be the dumbass who swerves extremely aggressively in that situation if you are in a SUV.
Not until the late 70s though some car manufacturers available in the uk would have had laminated glass. That's a later Range Rover (likely late 80s to early 90s) and should have had a laminated screen fitted. My guess is its had a screen replacement at some point in its life and someone has either been cheap or has mistakenly fitted a screen originally intended for an early 70s model. Makes sense as it would actually fit.
These were all crossovers… for that time I expected actual off-roaders, unlike today (except for the land cruiser), we still had a lot of those available back then.
After observing carefully I came to a conclusion that it's advisable to hit the car front of you because it's his fault... as he stopped his car on a busy motorway
I mean, new cars have new technology, the have esc, tcs, abs and are quite lower and more aerodynamic than the one before, would be nice if they tried this again with brand new cars
You do realize that a modern SUV has stability control and far better suspension etc? They don't roll like this anymore lol. youtube 77 kph test to see how modern 4x4s do
I have a feeling that Range Rover had its center of gravity raised a lot with those modifications. And it's quite far from how those previously mentioned SUVs are contructed.
Maneuvering like that in an old Range Rover is not logical. You'd want to hit the brakes and soften the impact. Btw that RR was pre sway bars. They were added in later models and made a huge difference. If you have one without and drive primarily on road, get a set of sway bars!
No modern car, SUV or off-roader rolls over while swerving, they have plenty of electronics and high tech suspensions which keeps them on the ground. But when you add another factor such as a curb, ditch, guardrail, flat tire or hitting another car it becomes a different story. In a situation like that the electronics and suspension won't do their job properly anymore and the laws of physics take over, meaning a car with a higher centre of gravity compare to it's width will roll over quicker.
with all the due respect SUVs and 4x4s are two completely different animals. 4x4's - proper ones - are not built for speed but off-road capabilities. rock crawling is not done at 45 or 65 miles an hour but at 3 or 5mph. you don't see 4x4's toppling over every rock they encounter. I can't believe the number of inaccuracies, mismatches and flaws put together in one film
This is a 17 year old video using a knackered old Range Rover which probably dates the Range Rover to the mid to late 80's from it's looks. So it's a 35 year old banger. Hardly a comparison for a 5 or even 10 year old SUV now and even the 5 year old is not even in the same league as today's brand new one's are. It's like showing a safety video on 1970's F1 and asking if F1 is safe?
So let’s see, a 20 year old test, with a car from the early 90s is swaying your opinion? A. They didn’t even bother trying to counter steer in this experiment, B. SUVs come standard with all sorts of accident avoidance technology today, C. SUVs are still safer than sedans and cars, even moreso today with the likelihood of an SUV accident encounter being higher for car drivers, and D. This video has a high ratio of dislikes because it’s very “The world is going to end” when it’s just a simple rainstorm. It’s creating an issue that’s not there. SUVs will always be more likely to roll over, that’s obvious, but in an 05 Suburban I’ve swerved and did not roll over because of basic knowledge of how to drive. I once ran over a MASSIVE log on the highway doing 85 MPH with traffic, the car hopped up into the air and landed perfectly fine. This is fearmongering, you’re falling for it, and worse yet you’re taking advice from a video that has a 30 year old Range Rover as the test car; a time when seat belts and airbags were optional, and some cars had no headrests. I’d still purchase the SUV because the SUV is safer. Fact, proven numerous times. You’re unlikely to roll over.
I’m 100% safer in my discovery 3 There loads more factors too this Potholes I have a 265/70r17 (most cars have a tiny sidewalk causing blow out when hitting pot hole Driving conditions Driving safely - you wouldn’t need too swerve if you at the correct distance Stronger chassis’s Height -better vision and above the impact Age of the vehicle I’m gunna use a 30year car vs a 15year old car I thought 5th gear was better that this
At 2:28 "your going to spin out...". No, no, & no...your'e going to shoot around them into oncoming traffic...I've personally seen this scenario played out between a 6000 lb Ford F250 vs. a KIA...the KIA driver was whisked away on-board an ambulance toward an uncertain future. The Ford driver was left to survey the damage to his truck.
The range rover is a proper offroader with lots of suspension travel and a high center of gravity with no esc or stability control, any new SUV that isn't a proper suv like a g wagon etc would all be fine
@ well, nitwit, they show the volvo and bmw and insist it will flip like the rover. so yes they count in this argument. fifth gear made a misleading false claim.
Ye sure,what person in his right mind would make that almost complete right to left turn after avoiding an obstacle in his front? Come on lads,you can do better than this :)
2 reasons , mostly for the biased result , & also the cost implication
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@@mark-1rc502 And mostly because 'SUVs' were far less common when this was shot in 2003 and cars like the Classic Range Rover were very common back then and there were no direct equivalents in great numbers on the roads...
these tests are so scripted they make me laugh, especially w that Jag at the start, wtf it is not a Lada to spin like that naturally..Tiff is a Legend tho!
Hit a Moose ( not so seldom in Scandinavia) with a normal car ! You chop the-legs off and the 600 to 800 kg body is on your lab , do you think the A frame will hold ?
Ahoura Schodjaie Typical of Top Gear and Fifth Gear. Both shows have older shows with more popular hosts. This is cute but it’s dishonest. Modern SUVs and crossovers are very safe compared with cars from 15 years ago. Also they are reviewing what is now a 30 year old RR. Who is driving a 30 year old SUV in 2020? If they reviewed a 997 Porsche then rereleased the video it’s great. Many people are interested in older model sports cars but who is shopping a 20 year old SUV?
SUVs, dearer to make, dearer to buy, dearer to run, dearer to maintain, deadlier to drive. Wouldn’t put my family in one for all the tea in China. They are an aberration driven primarily by women saying they are easier to get in and out of plus to load, also they say they can see better,( window shopping?). Any fool knows that the lower the centre of gravity the lower the chance of rollover. All the research to make cars more fuel efficient and therefore cleaner also goes out the window when you buy one of these plug ugly boxes.
That 'old range rover' looked quite nice, worth a fair bit of money now.
Was thinking the exact same thing.
Worth about 15k now lol
What, before or after? ;p
No they’re not. They’re known as Junk SUVs with expensive repairs.
That is for sure I laugh because tiff has a BMW X5 😂😂
Tiff is one hell of a driver. drifting, competing, this driving, and what not he has showcased.
Moral of the story: buy a wagon.
Add cool factor
Buy a sedan
All I got from this, is that you should just drive with a helmet on and knee protection?
@@arnemaeschaelck5012 and a roll
cage
no moral of the story is don't compare modern cars with ancient 4x4 on solid axles
Should never have let Tiff go
If in doubt.... Just plough into the back of the car in front...
And be at fault for causing the accident. Added to that, the driver you just rear-ended will claim for whiplash for good measure.
Scandinavian flick does the job every time lol
Apart from in the Jag!
EugVR6 they don’t want the jag to spin, 5th gear have a huge history of faking videos to support their narrative
To be fair, the Rover has suspension designed for maximum suspension travel
That's the point, only drive one if you plan on using it off road, and not just as a daily driver.
Tbf the stunt driver didn't even counter-steer to stop the Range Rover from rolling over
your average soccer mom who drives these wouldnt either
@@rdmz135 You sure? It is natural response, I think.
@@DashCamSerbia natural responses are not present in your average driver nowadays unfortunately. Luckily they have electronic aids nowadays to prevent natural selection.
@@CheapskateMotorsports luckily they have gadgets? Shouldn't that be 'Sadly they have gadgets'? If a car isn't safe without them you simply shouldn't buy them. It isn't you who reaps the fruits of your decision to buy the wrong car, it are those you share the road with.
it is not that he didn't counter steer its that he would have essentially been in an oncoming lane and its either trying to swerve to safety or likely crash head-on
FFS a 17 year old test in a 30 year old range rover
It still stands though, regardless of the age of the vehicle
He did say at the end that it wasn't a proper scientific test, and that they need one. Also, Tiff did not counter steer in the Jag either, so it was in a way a similar test.
Matt newer 4 by 4’s have lower centre of gravity causing it to be harder to roll over
Sick Skits well that, as well as systems like stability control
Sick Skits there crossovers your talking about.
this is just physics at work
I wonder why the windscreen was swapped for a toughened one. They’ve been laminated for years.
That is strange.
My dad had a 1977 Morris Marina that had a toughened windscreen. Many vehicles in the era of this Range Rover still had toughened windscreens. It was only until the late 60s that is was UK Law for all vehicles to be manufactured with toughened glass instead of plain glass. Toughened is far better than plain glass because in the event of a crash, at least you won't be cut to shreds. I think is was only until the early 80s when cars started using laminated windscreens.
I also wonder. Maybe the windscreen had been replaced by a former owner.
@@davidyoung9561 my dad had a Italian I remember he went to get it out of the garage one day and the windscreen was shattered for no reason we never did find out why
That E39 thoo 😍😍
Driving skill is more important than the type of the car
kwan kwankao I agree bad drivers do exist but in those situations with a high center of gravity the laws of physics just take over
1950’s callback!
Moral of the story, If you are in a SUV and the car in front of you brakes suddenly all you should need to do is hit the brakes...especially if you have the correct following distance. And don't be the dumbass who swerves extremely aggressively in that situation if you are in a SUV.
No laminated glass for the windshield in the UK?
Not until the late 70s though some car manufacturers available in the uk would have had laminated glass.
That's a later Range Rover (likely late 80s to early 90s) and should have had a laminated screen fitted.
My guess is its had a screen replacement at some point in its life and someone has either been cheap or has mistakenly fitted a screen originally intended for an early 70s model. Makes sense as it would actually fit.
0:56 "SUVs are less safe than normal cars" Uses a video of a Suzuki Samari/Jimmy which was modified to flip.
“Are off-roaders safe” said no one ever……
Tiff is a savage, that car had no choice but to stay flat on the road
I shouldn't wonder if he didn't use thehandbrake for added effect.
Tiff without gray hair 👌
SUVs are a fucking joke but they just getting more and more popular
Which song at? 5:21 please help
damn this E39 is a beauty
The song at 2:50 is "Minor Thing" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers
No one has ever died in a Volvo XC90.
Yes they have.
Tiff will always be linked to 5th Gear
Very nice to see tiff 🙂🙂🙂 always
These were all crossovers… for that time I expected actual off-roaders, unlike today (except for the land cruiser), we still had a lot of those available back then.
grand cherokee wasnt, that had solid axles front and rear
After observing carefully I came to a conclusion that it's advisable to hit the car front of you because it's his fault... as he stopped his car on a busy motorway
No, your fault, you were driving too close
@@Random-nf7qb That's also true
Only you'll cop the fine and insurance for following too closely. I'd still try everything to avoid him and stay on my wheels.
@@Random-nf7qb in my country it's always the fault of the car hitting from behind, NO MATTER WHAT, you should keep your distance
I mean, new cars have new technology, the have esc, tcs, abs and are quite lower and more aerodynamic than the one before, would be nice if they tried this again with brand new cars
when was this episode recorded??
Possibly before you were born. 2003!! and the Range Rover's from the mid 80's.
2003. -_-
Counter steer? Hello?
A 4x4 estate car then, with a bull bar of course.
I'm guessing the windshield was swapped out for one that would be more dramatic upon impact?
What surprises me about this is not how easy it is to roll the 4x4, but how difficult it is to roll the car.
Good video. The trend of SUV is rising.. They should be informed about the elevated CG.
Liau Yun I agree
You do realize that a modern SUV has stability control and far better suspension etc? They don't roll like this anymore lol. youtube 77 kph test to see how modern 4x4s do
Toxy your thick as a 4 by 6 plank boy!
@@fbboringstuff you're thick as honey 🍯 Got Winnie the Pooh going crazy after you
@@cudan2941 not a fan of Swedish magazine Teknikens Varld (Technology World) I see...
I have a feeling that Range Rover had its center of gravity raised a lot with those modifications. And it's quite far from how those previously mentioned SUVs are contructed.
Maneuvering like that in an old Range Rover is not logical. You'd want to hit the brakes and soften the impact. Btw that RR was pre sway bars. They were added in later models and made a huge difference. If you have one without and drive primarily on road, get a set of sway bars!
it doesn’t even have ABS, neither a great stopping distance
There's a big difference between a 4x4 with solid axles and a crossover SUV
1:50 Nikki looks like James May
Manu z Vicky & yes
Dat sexy e39 tho
bring back #TiffNeedell!
3:15 GoPro Hero 0.5
Range rover knows how to combat roll!
ok... the X3 is not a 4x4 as Jeremy Clarkson said
No modern car, SUV or off-roader rolls over while swerving, they have plenty of electronics and high tech suspensions which keeps them on the ground. But when you add another factor such as a curb, ditch, guardrail, flat tire or hitting another car it becomes a different story. In a situation like that the electronics and suspension won't do their job properly anymore and the laws of physics take over, meaning a car with a higher centre of gravity compare to it's width will roll over quicker.
Which cars more economy on the test?
If you have to swerve to avoid hitting the car in front, you were most likely tailgating or not paying attention.
Vicky looks like a cbeebies presenter 😂
that Xtype jag handles well...
It a Mondeo, it is known to handles well!
This is 2020 and not that many things have changed, at least not for the average crossovers most people drive.
Anything is safe - it’s the driver, not the vehicle! 😎
Range crashed R.I.P
That range rover looked so nice probably worth alot of money
with all the due respect SUVs and 4x4s are two completely different animals. 4x4's - proper ones - are not built for speed but off-road capabilities. rock crawling is not done at 45 or 65 miles an hour but at 3 or 5mph. you don't see 4x4's toppling over every rock they encounter. I can't believe the number of inaccuracies, mismatches and flaws put together in one film
Those grand cherokees are like impossible to roll lol
Why do all their videos have the quality like a video from 2004?
This was recorded in 2003
Why are they reuploading them on yt then?...
@@gamingcool69 Beats the hell out of me!
Why did the windshield shatter? Should be safety glass
SUV: *rolls over*
Škoda: “lets give her an ad about our new SUV”
Suv's and off-roaders, crossovers should be limited to 140kph and heavily taxed and tested every 3 months
This is a 17 year old video using a knackered old Range Rover which probably dates the Range Rover to the mid to late 80's from it's looks.
So it's a 35 year old banger. Hardly a comparison for a 5 or even 10 year old SUV now and even the 5 year old is not even in the same league as today's brand new one's are.
It's like showing a safety video on 1970's F1 and asking if F1 is safe?
Let’s be fair. Given the choice we would ALL drive that old Range Rover every day as a run around than the latest model.
@@Landie_Man - Error... No!
The Zanzibarbarian I would. New stuff is very boring
Here is the point: it's not about avoiding accidents with a 4X4 per se, it's about what happens when you're in an accident.
But the best accidents are ones that do not happen.
Extra points for Minor Thing.
Keep your distance and break you don't need swerve
The landrover driver was far too close behind. I’ve owned several TD5’s - strangely enough, never rolled one! 😏
I would honestly be in that rear end collision than a roll over cause it’s safer
Ironically I was thinking of selling my X-Type Jag for a 4x4....don't think I'll bother now.
So let’s see, a 20 year old test, with a car from the early 90s is swaying your opinion? A. They didn’t even bother trying to counter steer in this experiment, B. SUVs come standard with all sorts of accident avoidance technology today, C. SUVs are still safer than sedans and cars, even moreso today with the likelihood of an SUV accident encounter being higher for car drivers, and D. This video has a high ratio of dislikes because it’s very “The world is going to end” when it’s just a simple rainstorm. It’s creating an issue that’s not there. SUVs will always be more likely to roll over, that’s obvious, but in an 05 Suburban I’ve swerved and did not roll over because of basic knowledge of how to drive. I once ran over a MASSIVE log on the highway doing 85 MPH with traffic, the car hopped up into the air and landed perfectly fine. This is fearmongering, you’re falling for it, and worse yet you’re taking advice from a video that has a 30 year old Range Rover as the test car; a time when seat belts and airbags were optional, and some cars had no headrests. I’d still purchase the SUV because the SUV is safer. Fact, proven numerous times. You’re unlikely to roll over.
Unless you specifically need the 4x4 for an off-road purpose, I wouldn't bother either. Why waste money on all that extra fuel?
Suv aren't good to avoid accident, but they are when they happens
The roll cage will have added to the centre of mass being high.
No deaths in Volvo XC90 since it was introduced.
Last shelter advert keeps popping up 🙄
I’m 100% safer in my discovery 3
There loads more factors too this
Potholes I have a 265/70r17 (most cars have a tiny sidewalk causing blow out when hitting pot hole
Driving conditions
Driving safely - you wouldn’t need too swerve if you at the correct distance
Stronger chassis’s
Height -better vision and above the impact
Age of the vehicle I’m gunna use a 30year car vs a 15year old car
I thought 5th gear was better that this
Just expect the unexpected on a motorway and don't daydream.
At 2:28 "your going to spin out...". No, no, & no...your'e going to shoot around them into oncoming traffic...I've personally seen this scenario played out between a 6000 lb Ford F250 vs. a KIA...the KIA driver was whisked away on-board an ambulance toward an uncertain future. The Ford driver was left to survey the damage to his truck.
try it with that volvo or bmw... wont flip.
The range rover is a proper offroader with lots of suspension travel and a high center of gravity with no esc or stability control, any new SUV that isn't a proper suv like a g wagon etc would all be fine
@ well, nitwit, they show the volvo and bmw and insist it will flip like the rover. so yes they count in this argument. fifth gear made a misleading false claim.
He then went out and bought a daily driver that is an x5 for his wife. Such irony.
tiffs daily drive is a bmw x5 , so he obviously doesent think they are that dangerous.
It's all in the way you hold your mouth. If you're aware of the extra nuances and drive accordingly, it shouldn't be a problem.
Seen Tiff's black hair after a long time
Ye sure,what person in his right mind would make that almost complete right to left turn after avoiding an obstacle in his front? Come on lads,you can do better than this :)
Andy says the one with a duster as profile pic 😂
People swerving back onto their original lane. That's what I would do to avoid getting hit by traffic going the opposite way.
@@thearousedeunuch You are correct. It was a fair test albeit with an old SUV.
So this is how you park your dad's car in a hurry?
That roll bar didn't help the cause
if this could happen i'm too scared of off roaders!
why didnt they also do it with a new SUV?
2 reasons , mostly for the biased result , & also the cost implication
@@mark-1rc502
And mostly because 'SUVs' were far less common when this was shot in 2003 and cars like the Classic Range Rover were very common back then and there were no direct equivalents in great numbers on the roads...
Just don't follow other cars too close.
Waste of a good RR classic....
The car was modified to the point it was going to be deliberately rolled over.
this test feels totally assinine.
I like how he's trying to roll the car without even a helmet on. He would have been severely injured if he had rolled it.
Well to be honest they used a Sport Jaguar, use a Passat,Camry or some kind of regular sedan and the story would have been very different
@ Nonsense
He knows that the centre of gravity is nowhere near high enough to flip the car over by swerving alone.
these tests are so scripted they make me laugh, especially w that Jag at the start, wtf it is not a Lada to spin like that naturally..Tiff is a Legend tho!
Tiff was playing an inexperienced driver
Sorin Tarna watch some videos of moose tests without ESP
Hit a Moose ( not so seldom in Scandinavia) with a normal car ! You chop the-legs off and the 600 to 800 kg body is on your lab , do you think the A frame will hold ?
That "profesional stunt driver" dragged the wheel too hard. In situation like this, it's enough just a small pinch of the wheel to get the job done
The point was to show how easy is to roll over a old SUV. Some normal driver might react the same
I would say they are/ish
Why is the grafic like in the 90s? 😕
Because it’s almost that old! Did you think this was a modern video?
@@miketheman4341 But why did they let the video out so much later? 🤔
Ahoura Schodjaie
Typical of Top Gear and Fifth Gear. Both shows have older shows with more popular hosts. This is cute but it’s dishonest. Modern SUVs and crossovers are very safe compared with cars from 15 years ago. Also they are reviewing what is now a 30 year old RR. Who is driving a 30 year old SUV in 2020?
If they reviewed a 997 Porsche then rereleased the video it’s great. Many people are interested in older model sports cars but who is shopping a 20 year old SUV?
@@miketheman4341 yes, U r right! Thanks for Information.
I feel bad for the range Rover
Thank you 5th gear, for getting one more gopping SUV off the roads.
@ Well if it does, the owner's insurance will be battered, and so will the owner.
His goal was to flip the SUV, not to avoid the sedan. Just take a look at the steering wheel movement. This is stupid.
agree..
you sound so utterly useless
Lame, one test in an notorious 4x4. It's like being shocked if a Bronco was to roll. Why didn't they show the rav or X5!?
Firstly, for effect; secondly, a Rav4 or X5 are substantially more expensive cars to be smashing up like that.
That range rover haș minimum 30 years lol do with a 2020
I had a volvo xc90 for years and had a few close calls but never felt it was going to roll. Proper safe car or 4x4 should I say. 5th gear is shit
its from 2003
SUVs, dearer to make, dearer to buy, dearer to run, dearer to maintain, deadlier to drive. Wouldn’t put my family in one for all the tea in China. They are an aberration driven primarily by women saying they are easier to get in and out of plus to load, also they say they can see better,( window shopping?). Any fool knows that the lower the centre of gravity the lower the chance of rollover. All the research to make cars more fuel efficient and therefore cleaner also goes out the window when you buy one of these plug ugly boxes.
Still getting subs off tiff?
If I had an SUV I wouldn't swerve to avoid the collision. But I would let the collision happen and let the car infront withstand the whiplash.
So kind of you. Remind me never to get in your way. Prick 🙄
@Luis Bolanos Exactly.
Why we would risk our lives when the person ahead is hitting the brakes harder knowing there is another car behind.
Well in the U. K your strategy would result in you loosing your license, a massive fine and possibly jail where hopefully you may be butraped.
@@S1eeperServ1ce
It's better than being dead in a toppled over car in the middle of the highway right?
And that too for someone else's mistake.
@@suwaibakhtar2491 I'd rather be dead than endure the fate I described 😂