I ride an XL Santa Cruz Hightower and got an Ibis OSO in size XL. I am 6'-3" and 210 lb and on paper I though that the OSO in XL would be too big but I dont know how but it felt just as large as my Hightower or maybe even smaller? This OSO handles like a smaller bike when you want it to but has the stability of a bigger bike. It is just crazy. Love it. Paid $8k and for the price its just a great buy.
So stoked to see you drop this review on release day. I had a feeling you'd make it happen. Great review as always. Tell your inside peeps at Ibis to revise it with a much cleaner cockpit next model... lol.
At 6'7" with long legs, the geo on this XL has me salivating... I haven't jumped into exploring eMTB yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. Fun watching all the tech progress!
I was really hoping their first would be a “lightweight” e-bike but I have seen pretty good arguments for the contrary too. Definitely not a fan of all the farkles and the extra wiring though. Couldn’t help but notice that the charge port looks to be down by the cranks right in the danger zone for mud, water and impacts. Saw BKXC fiddling with it after impacts during his little puff piece.
It's a rats nest for sure. Between the controller, screen and headlight, there are too many cables. If it was my bike I'd ditch the screen and headlight to clean things up a ton.
Yep. Lots of haters out there today on the interwebs saying the whole bike looks like trash...which absolutely is NOT the case. It's gorgeous but they flailed hard on the slop cockpit. Was hoping the tech would have been nice and subtle like on the Trek EXe.
you guys should do a review of my 2019 norco sight. i have it at 48lbs and its flicky and fun and does all the distances i need. haha. but i love all these new bikes.
Great review bud!! I'm at a point where I can pick up either the 22 Heckler or the 23 Oso for about the same price. Since you have ridden both which would you choose assuming money wasn't part of the consideration?
Hey thanks! Tough call. Those two are some of my favorites. They’re fairly similar as well. I really like the Bosch system on the Oso but it is a bit cluttered and messy. That said the Shimano on the heckler is a bit rattly. As far as ride quality goes I feel like the heckler is more lively while the Oso is probably a bit more capable.
Beautiful scenery and excellent review. Just fyi I have a local 20 mile ride with 4500 ft of climbing/descending and it takes me 3.5 hours on a pedal bike. How fast was your similar e-bike ride?
I was really hoping their next bike would of been longer travel than the Ripmo. This is not what I expected. Edit: this came off more negative than intended, I just wasn't expecting an ebike before a more capable enduro bike. The bike sounds like a great option.
Both valid concerns. I know this Bosch battery is rated for 1000 charges at 100% battery health. After that it drops to 80%. I’d imagine it could be replaced at that point. Most of the motors are pretty protected and your chainring is going to take the brunt of an impact anyway.
interesting choice on sizing. Seems like they just skipped the large size entirely. medium is the same as the ripmo, and then L is the same as rimpo XL. Strange to just skip the most popular size entirely and call the xl a large.
Kind of. You also have to keep in mind that reach isn't the only contributing factor to how big a bike feels. Stack height and seat tube angle will have a big effect on the seated position. Comparing larges for example, the Oso has a steeper seat tube angle which is going to move you closer to the handlebars putting you probably pretty close to the seated position on a large Ripmo. On the descents you'll get the benefit of the longer reach and wheelbase as this bike is intended to ride bigger and more stable than a Ripmo.
I think bumping up the travel to 190 in front, will eventually raise the bottom bracket height... it is very low, 340mm. Any issues with pedal strikes?
From what I understand this was out of necessity to get the geo how they wanted while also having clearance for the motor. Not sure the pedal versions will need to do it. I imagine it would add some unnecessary complexity to the design.
as awesome as this bike seems, i cannot and will NOT ever be able to justify spending 11 THOUSAND dollars on a carbon ebike that comes with fucking sram GX drivetrain and fox performance suspension. it is REALLY getting out of hand just how expensive bikes are getting. I don't care how much R&D went in to making this bike. nothing justifies that price in my opinion. I am extremely lucky to have gotten some great discounts because I worked in a bike shop for a while but even then, I spent far too much money on my bike and now that I don't work in a bike shop anymore, I am just unwilling to buy anything bike related other than new tires once or twice a year. if you want a new bike, go get a job at a bike shop for a few months, get your pro-deals and then quit. companies quite literally will give you a 45% or more discount on bikes and still make a solid profit.
You made a mistake comparing the Oso to the Instinct. Two different categories of bikes. You should have compared to the Altitude. Unless of course you haven’t ridden the Altitude. In that case, get your hands on one. I would like to see that comparison.
@@bikersedge I’m interested to know how you think the Altitude compares to the Oso. I’ve had my eye on the Altitude for the past year and finally put one on order. Should be arriving early next year. But now Ibis puts out the Oso. Dilemma. Good thing my bike shop deals with both Rocky and Ibis 😁.
@@bikersedge interesting. Hard to imagine the Oso being more lively when you look at the geometry and weight. But I guess that’s the genius behind the engineering at Ibis.
I haven’t weighed either of them but there’s no way the RM stuff is lighter than the Oso. Those are some of the heavier ebikes I’ve ridden. As for the lively feel, suspension design is a huge contributor to how poppy a bike feels not just geo.
OKAY, just minutes after my response to my Repeater comment, you BLOW my mind with this. I should check out their IG page........crap, I have a meeting in one minute!
Pretty comparable. Just as smooth and quiet. The Giant cockpit is a lot cleaner though. This bike has a bigger battery than any of the Giants at the moment.
No. Mine is in the stock 155/170mm configuration. If I can keep it long enough I want to put a 190 dual crown on it and bump the rear travel up to 170mm.
It's exciting news for sure. Once I get my hands on the new TB I'll be making a video. The updated Ripmo/Ripley are the same as before in terms of ride quality. Won't be making videos of those.
We all knew this was coming with the band refresh. That being said the size makes no sense to me on this. They skip a size. The reaches and seat tubes are too long and steep
At first the sizing was a little weird to me. Now it’s strung to make more sense. With such a steep seat tube the reach is going to feel shorter in the seated position. Also it has a really low standover which allows for more flexibility when trying to pick a size.
That screen and controller are hideous. After riding a Rocky Instinct Powerplay with the tiny controller and on frame display, I couldn't have a cockpit that messy. Otherwise this bike looks amazing.
Really don’t get why they rebranded their logo. Looks way worse now. Super forgettable logo. The old metal logo was amazing and made the bikes look really special. Now the head tube logo looks like everything else.
@@bikersedge They just painted a bird on the headtube, not creative at all. The old gold metal logo stood out from the crowd and looked amazing. It was actually the first thing I noticed when I saw an Ibis for the first time. I know looks are second to function but in an age where all bikes perform really good, looks end up playing a bigger factor. My 2cents.
The effective is 78° on a L frame measured at 765mm saddle height. It will get a bit slacker the higher you get on your saddle height. The actual angle isn't a great measurement without knowing the effective angle as a seat tube can start well in front or behind the bottom bracket. Giving the actual at the measured saddle height is the best way to measure STA.
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@@bikersedge so slack sta's are ok when it's 'boutique' brand - otherwise not
A slack actual angle means nothing without comparing its relative relation to the bottom bracket. That's why an effective angle at a given saddle height is the best measurement. Yes, the actual angle on this seat tube is slack, but its relation to the bottom bracket at what I'd consider a pretty high saddle height for a large frame, is plenty steep. Not even close to feeling slack. I'm sensitive to slack STAs because I have giraffe legs, and I had zero issues with this STA.
@@bikersedge just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward for more EMTB and MTB review. Both MTB and EMTB are fun in their own way, doing both and love both!. Thank you for the great video!
Johny, you guys are really everywhere 😂 @@bikersedge keep em coming! Mtb or eMtb they all put smiles on our face 😊. What i dont like about this bike is it starts at $11k 😅
I ride an XL Santa Cruz Hightower and got an Ibis OSO in size XL. I am 6'-3" and 210 lb and on paper I though that the OSO in XL would be too big but I dont know how but it felt just as large as my Hightower or maybe even smaller? This OSO handles like a smaller bike when you want it to but has the stability of a bigger bike. It is just crazy. Love it. Paid $8k and for the price its just a great buy.
You deserve more subs - will come in time. Love your reviews.
I appreciate that!
Facts
So stoked to see you drop this review on release day. I had a feeling you'd make it happen. Great review as always. Tell your inside peeps at Ibis to revise it with a much cleaner cockpit next model... lol.
Glad you liked it! If the bike was mine, I'd ditch the headlight and screen. It would clean up the clutter significantly.
@@bikersedge I asked Ibis and they said the lights can be disassembled
At 6'7" with long legs, the geo on this XL has me salivating... I haven't jumped into exploring eMTB yet, but I'm sure I will at some point. Fun watching all the tech progress!
It’s going to be a great option for tall folks.
I really dig it. They didn’t do the standard paste a battery to a current frame design that some brands like to do.
Yeah they really thought this one through and it shows.
Agreed, but would love to demo and see how it feels ... I have a lot of trust in Ibis though. This and the Unno Mith have the nicest aesthetics IMO!!
Great to hear the review on the OSO. Hopefully the Ibis line up gets a non-e OSO down the road.
I wouldn't hate that.
Can't wait to go ride this trail,keep it up with the great reviews man!
It's a good one!
Bike looks amazing, better start saving. Can you tell what trail were you riding at? Awesome trail
@@yasmas70 So good. This is the Skyline Trail in North Ogden, UT.
Great review. Seeing the prices of these drop by half makes me wonder if Ibis is getting ready to release a V2 of the Oso. Seems about time...
@@cya442 thanks! Haven’t heard anything about that but I’d be stoked if they did.
I was really hoping their first would be a “lightweight” e-bike but I have seen pretty good arguments for the contrary too. Definitely not a fan of all the farkles and the extra wiring though. Couldn’t help but notice that the charge port looks to be down by the cranks right in the danger zone for mud, water and impacts. Saw BKXC fiddling with it after impacts during his little puff piece.
I’d love to see more lightweight ebikes with lots of travel and rowdy groups.
There's a whole lot happening up at the cockpit!! Cables and wires everywhere
It's a rats nest for sure. Between the controller, screen and headlight, there are too many cables. If it was my bike I'd ditch the screen and headlight to clean things up a ton.
Yep. Lots of haters out there today on the interwebs saying the whole bike looks like trash...which absolutely is NOT the case. It's gorgeous but they flailed hard on the slop cockpit. Was hoping the tech would have been nice and subtle like on the Trek EXe.
I just want every ebike to come with the Jumbotron like Rocky Mountain. I love not having 5 different ebike apps on my phone. Plus it's super sleek.
@@TyroilSmoochieWallace Yep. It is a cool looking bike but I would rather the Fuel ex-e!! But then again I am biased as I have a Fuel ex 9.8!!
you guys should do a review of my 2019 norco sight. i have it at 48lbs and its flicky and fun and does all the distances i need. haha. but i love all these new bikes.
48? Edit: You're likely referring to an eMTB Sight.
thats not too bad if you're talking about the ebike sight.
Great review bud!! I'm at a point where I can pick up either the 22 Heckler or the 23 Oso for about the same price. Since you have ridden both which would you choose assuming money wasn't part of the consideration?
Hey thanks! Tough call. Those two are some of my favorites. They’re fairly similar as well. I really like the Bosch system on the Oso but it is a bit cluttered and messy. That said the Shimano on the heckler is a bit rattly. As far as ride quality goes I feel like the heckler is more lively while the Oso is probably a bit more capable.
Beautiful scenery and excellent review. Just fyi I have a local 20 mile ride with 4500 ft of climbing/descending and it takes me 3.5 hours on a pedal bike. How fast was your similar e-bike ride?
Hey thanks! It took 2.5 hours, but that also includes all the extra nonsense that comes along with filming.
Great review! Is this trail on the Wasatch Front? If so, do you mind sharing the name of it?
Yeah it's in Ogden. We hit Ben Lomond and Willard peaks.
I was really hoping their next bike would of been longer travel than the Ripmo.
This is not what I expected.
Edit: this came off more negative than intended, I just wasn't expecting an ebike before a more capable enduro bike. The bike sounds like a great option.
Well it is longer travel than the Ripmo.
@@bikersedge fair enough! Sounds like an amazing ebike option from the review.
Yep, need it.
Same.
So my concern about all these E MTB
Would they hold charge after 5 years?
What about crashing and smashing the shit of the motor then what ?
Both valid concerns. I know this Bosch battery is rated for 1000 charges at 100% battery health. After that it drops to 80%. I’d imagine it could be replaced at that point.
Most of the motors are pretty protected and your chainring is going to take the brunt of an impact anyway.
So… this or the 2023 Orbea Wild? Keeping in mind I live in Phoenix with a lot of big rocky gnarly trails I like to ride.
Don’t have enough time on the wild to say. Our test bike should be arriving soon though.
OSomany cables in that cockpit. 😂 #dadjokes
interesting choice on sizing. Seems like they just skipped the large size entirely. medium is the same as the ripmo, and then L is the same as rimpo XL. Strange to just skip the most popular size entirely and call the xl a large.
Kind of. You also have to keep in mind that reach isn't the only contributing factor to how big a bike feels. Stack height and seat tube angle will have a big effect on the seated position. Comparing larges for example, the Oso has a steeper seat tube angle which is going to move you closer to the handlebars putting you probably pretty close to the seated position on a large Ripmo. On the descents you'll get the benefit of the longer reach and wheelbase as this bike is intended to ride bigger and more stable than a Ripmo.
No plans to test the new Pivot Schuttle LT and to compare it to the Ibis, Rocky and Santa?
No. We don’t carry pivot at the shop.
I think bumping up the travel to 190 in front, will eventually raise the bottom bracket height... it is very low, 340mm. Any issues with pedal strikes?
No issues with pedal strikes.
@@bikersedge Thanks man! This bike rips!
great review , love the bike, but the trails... where is this ?
Ogden, UT
Wonder if V3 Ripmo and V5 Ripley will follow that swing arm design…?
From what I understand this was out of necessity to get the geo how they wanted while also having clearance for the motor. Not sure the pedal versions will need to do it. I imagine it would add some unnecessary complexity to the design.
the side profile looks like a MountainCycle shockwave 9.5
as awesome as this bike seems, i cannot and will NOT ever be able to justify spending 11 THOUSAND dollars on a carbon ebike that comes with fucking sram GX drivetrain and fox performance suspension. it is REALLY getting out of hand just how expensive bikes are getting. I don't care how much R&D went in to making this bike. nothing justifies that price in my opinion. I am extremely lucky to have gotten some great discounts because I worked in a bike shop for a while but even then, I spent far too much money on my bike and now that I don't work in a bike shop anymore, I am just unwilling to buy anything bike related other than new tires once or twice a year. if you want a new bike, go get a job at a bike shop for a few months, get your pro-deals and then quit. companies quite literally will give you a 45% or more discount on bikes and still make a solid profit.
You ride an extra large normally on most of your bikes, what's your inseam?
I wear 34" length pants.
How does it compare to the Yeti Ebike or Orbea Rise or Trek Fuel Exe
I'd like to compare it to the Yeti. Haven't put much thought into it yet. It's not at all like the Rise. Those are two very different bikes.
You made a mistake comparing the Oso to the Instinct. Two different categories of bikes. You should have compared to the Altitude. Unless of course you haven’t ridden the Altitude. In that case, get your hands on one. I would like to see that comparison.
I’ve ridden both. And the Oso feels far more similar to the Instinct than it does the Altitude.
@@bikersedge I’m interested to know how you think the Altitude compares to the Oso. I’ve had my eye on the Altitude for the past year and finally put one on order. Should be arriving early next year. But now Ibis puts out the Oso. Dilemma. Good thing my bike shop deals with both Rocky and Ibis 😁.
The altitude is a much more grounded bike. The Oso feels much more lively and balanced.
@@bikersedge interesting. Hard to imagine the Oso being more lively when you look at the geometry and weight. But I guess that’s the genius behind the engineering at Ibis.
I haven’t weighed either of them but there’s no way the RM stuff is lighter than the Oso. Those are some of the heavier ebikes I’ve ridden. As for the lively feel, suspension design is a huge contributor to how poppy a bike feels not just geo.
OKAY, just minutes after my response to my Repeater comment, you BLOW my mind with this. I should check out their IG page........crap, I have a meeting in one minute!
Watching youtube reviews is better than going to meetings.
@@bikersedge I made up for it the rest of the day, trust me. 😁
@@bikersedge Ok, I already watched it! LOL Thanks Connor!
How's this motor compare to Giants Yamaha synch pro?
Pretty comparable. Just as smooth and quiet. The Giant cockpit is a lot cleaner though. This bike has a bigger battery than any of the Giants at the moment.
How would you compare it to the 160e
Similar I think. The Oso feels a bit more plush and bottomless. The Yeti feels a bit firmer and faster.
WTF, I expected an IBIS, not a San Andreas! 😁😉
Exactly what I thought when I saw it. I used to have a san Andreas it was an awesome bike.
Only 13k that thing is a bargain!
How can you not compare it to the levo?
Because I haven’t ridden one….
All ebikes should use this trail as a measuring stick. Long miles, huge vert, and excellent downhill. Ben Lomond is still king
It's a fun one for sure.
Did u have it in the 170 r / 170 f?
No. Mine is in the stock 155/170mm configuration. If I can keep it long enough I want to put a 190 dual crown on it and bump the rear travel up to 170mm.
@@bikersedge pls do and let us know what’s it like 👍 this is interesting 🤔
@@bikersedge I would do the same, either with a dual crown fork or a single crown Zeb Ultimate
Just when I was waiting for the tallboy or new ibis ripmo/ripley you go and do something like this …. And totally redeem yourself !
It's exciting news for sure. Once I get my hands on the new TB I'll be making a video. The updated Ripmo/Ripley are the same as before in terms of ride quality. Won't be making videos of those.
Looks like the North Ogden Divide trail?!
Looks like they headed north to Ben Lomond
Correct
Which one is correct north Ben lomond or north ogden?
Both. Headed north to Ben Lomond peak on the North Ogden Divide trail.
We all knew this was coming with the band refresh. That being said the size makes no sense to me on this. They skip a size. The reaches and seat tubes are too long and steep
At first the sizing was a little weird to me. Now it’s strung to make more sense. With such a steep seat tube the reach is going to feel shorter in the seated position. Also it has a really low standover which allows for more flexibility when trying to pick a size.
That screen and controller are hideous. After riding a Rocky Instinct Powerplay with the tiny controller and on frame display, I couldn't have a cockpit that messy. Otherwise this bike looks amazing.
Agreed. Rocky does the best job with the controller. Wish this was a little sleeker.
Sexy futuristic design…but the 1980s cockpit, what a mess 🤦🏻
Yeah. The cockpit could be cleaner. Luckily that doesn’t affect ride quality.
tell me your go pro settings!!!🤣🤣🤣
I underexpose a little and shoot a flat color profile. The rest is done in post.
Love Ibis but just can’t excited about an ebike
I can’t not get excited about one. They unlock so many new zones.
There is no real sound of the bike just silence and horrible music. Is it to hide something? Is it because of the unbearable rattle of the engine...?!
Glad you like the music!
This one doesn’t rattle at all. It’s one of the quieter ebikes I’ve ridden. Not at all like the EP8
That is one ugly bike
Debatable
Really don’t get why they rebranded their logo. Looks way worse now. Super forgettable logo. The old metal logo was amazing and made the bikes look really special. Now the head tube logo looks like everything else.
Oh man. I personally think it's way better than the old one.
@@bikersedge They just painted a bird on the headtube, not creative at all. The old gold metal logo stood out from the crowd and looked amazing. It was actually the first thing I noticed when I saw an Ibis for the first time. I know looks are second to function but in an age where all bikes perform really good, looks end up playing a bigger factor. My 2cents.
Yeah the metal was cool for sure. I think the new logo in general though is much better. Freshened up the brand quite a bit.
e-bikes suck!
Sounds like you don’t like having fun.
No, they don’t…
how slack seat angle? 75? 70?
and none of that effective sta bullshit, please
Lols why do you hate Effective seat tube angles so much
The effective is 78° on a L frame measured at 765mm saddle height. It will get a bit slacker the higher you get on your saddle height. The actual angle isn't a great measurement without knowing the effective angle as a seat tube can start well in front or behind the bottom bracket. Giving the actual at the measured saddle height is the best way to measure STA.
@@323johnnybravo must be the bicycling media, that has purported that it's bad to have a slack sta
@@bikersedge so slack sta's are ok when it's 'boutique' brand - otherwise not
A slack actual angle means nothing without comparing its relative relation to the bottom bracket. That's why an effective angle at a given saddle height is the best measurement. Yes, the actual angle on this seat tube is slack, but its relation to the bottom bracket at what I'd consider a pretty high saddle height for a large frame, is plenty steep. Not even close to feeling slack. I'm sensitive to slack STAs because I have giraffe legs, and I had zero issues with this STA.
When I realised the review was about a lazE bike I instantly clicked away. Hope you don't do any more reviews of these abominations
I'll make sure to do a ton of them then.
@@bikersedge just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward for more EMTB and MTB review. Both MTB and EMTB are fun in their own way, doing both and love both!. Thank you for the great video!
@@mtechill7808 Hey thanks! Happy to have you around. They're both a ton of fun in their own way.
Johny, you guys are really everywhere 😂
@@bikersedge keep em coming! Mtb or eMtb they all put smiles on our face 😊. What i dont like about this bike is it starts at $11k 😅
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