Great review fc! Some very useful insights and comps from a guy who has ridden so many eMTB's. I just built mine up! It looks amazing too with custom wrap by Stikrd. I did full AXS and skipped the flat screen since the new controller tells me everything I need to know while in motion, just like my Gen2 Levo. I do really appreciate the MasterMind on my KSL, but in all honesty I hardly ever look at it, so I don't think I will miss all the data more than I love the clean cockpit. As soon as the embargo lifts on something new I'll post up pics so folks can see how clean the front of this bike can be. Favorite part of your review? Now I don't have to read the instructions about how to turn my lights on and off, LoL! FTR, we just built one with the DHX2 long stroked and it fits very cleanly. Bike looks proper with a 180 Factory 38 up front. I put a DVO Jade X coil in mine to see if it will fit and it looks like that one will work just barely. Didn't swap the hardware as that rear shock eye hardware kit is not something that wants to come out easily and I'm running the Float X2 for the photo shoot first... So full test on that to come later. I think Ibis hit it out of the park with this Oso. I have spent a lot of time very close to this bike and the detail work is very Gen3 looking, which makes sense given it is their 3rd Gen! The look is totally eye popping and by far the best looking mono-swing arm ever. Those older models you flashed were just terrible on the eyes while Roxy's flowy design is just artful and functional at the same time. Never an easy task! I sort of hated on the lighting system at first, but then realized that I've been riding at night for three decades and have always wanted built in lights, lol. These are just perfect for getting to and from the trails more safely and allows us to save the battery of our main trail light for riding trails. Very clean too. Last I just have to throw props to the new logo and branding. Ibis has never blasted us with their logos and this bike has plenty of real estate to put big logos all over, and they did not. Instead they have a very clean logo that looks great. I'll miss the classic head badge on the one hand while appreciating the new head badge with the other. None of our customers ever could tell what that old head badge was about anyhow! Another killer Ibis bike takes flight...
Thanks for the review Francis. It took a minute to come to grips with the frame design but by the end of the video and listening to the segment with Roxy explaining the design process I've come around. I love that they went for a full power, long travel eBike and made it ride like a regular mtb. Looks like Scot and his team hit a home run. And yeah, that display needs to be integrated in the top tube.
I'm ok with the mono-swing arm...and the DW link to reduce pedal feedback or squatting. So the kinematics look promising, and best looking mono-link I've seen. I trust your "stiffness appraisal" and performance review. I think the DH and Enduro race crowd be luv'n it. But it's more "moto" E-mtb looking than "trail-duro" analogue E-mtb looking....it's swing arm just "stands" out more. I know it's full-powered. Again, Class 1 trail access makes it harder for stealth. ln contrast, take the Trek Fuel Ex-e. Now beef it up to a TQ 65nNm motor, and toss in a 475 Wh battery with 160 rear travel and boom...perfection🤯 Maybe the Transition Relay Fazua 60 next Spring will be the happy medium 42 lb enduro E-mtb.🍻
It seems that every Ibis bike is beautiful. Somehow they are even able to make a Mono Swingarm look fancy! I love how they are not afraid to combine SRAM and Shimano. It’s about time this is done. Maybe soon all of these components will be interchangeable. baahaaahaa. I hope someday I will be able to ride this bike and see all the fun for myself.
The swing arm is baller. Just like a motocross bike. I love it. The thought of trading in my Ripmo has crossed my mind. The Oso is a home run from Ibis.
Wow, Wow, Wow!! About 3 years ago I went to the Ibis HQ to demo the V1 Ripmo and take a tour. They voluntarily told me they are working on an Ebike. Earlier this year I rode at Skeggs and there was a guy connected to Ibis who said they been testing Prototypes. So I'm not surprised they finally released one! I am surprised that there is only one price point though. I wouldn't be surprised if they release an Oso AF next week!...LOL. $11K is steep though. I'm sure it lives up to their reputation! They really put the time in to create great bikes! I'm still loving my V1 Ripmo and enjoy the benefits of Cardio. I'll eventually get one though. I did demo a Levo in Santa Cruz which was impressive a few months back. But am very loyal to Ibis so I'll probably get one eventually. I'd love to demo one! Btw, the video stated the Medium is a Mullet? I'm sure you can get a 29er in a Medium? Also, isn't that Pacifica you're demoing it at? I can't wait to watch JKW's video on this. I'm sure it will be an interesting review!!
I love the look of that swing arm, that’s a beautiful bike. Another thing I really like is that there’s plenty of room in the middle triangle for an extender battery. Hopefully Bosch comes out with an extender battery soon, hopefully for next year‘s model. Carrying 1150 watts for big rides (750/400), would be just freaking awesome, and if that bike is plush enough, it’ll be no problem to go that far. I think they’re on the right path.
I am part of a group of riders in Colorado that does long rides. So everybody is carrying two batteries these days. We’ve been in need of great solutions from manufactures so we can have the bike carrying 950 to 1200 Watts or so. We’re getting too old to keep caring extra batteries on our back. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the detailed review, I purchased an Aventon Sinch ebike from SWFL Golf Carts and have my eyes on the Ibis Oso Embt, will definitely visit a store and check it out in person
Great review as always Francis! Love the look and sound freaking amazing. For me, the Bosch system is a complete deal breaker. From the noise to the ride feel and especially the display and controls. Ibis should have waited till Bosch release their new display systems. For that sort of money, I think it should be discrete and work perfectly.
Aside from the weight and the display, this looks perfect, even to this Luddite. I'll probably never own an ebike but a Levo demo fell on my lap several weeks ago and I couldn't help but smile while powering up some tight and overgrade switchbacks. They're fun for sure!
@@EMTBReview I'll probably get one for trail work duties at my local adventure loop. 8 miles of riding just to get to the problem spots! Also, for exploring the Lost Sierra! The reason I bikepack there is to get to some really cool spots that are impossible to access as a day trip. Anyway, like I always say, thanks to you early adopters that enable manufacturers to invest R&D in these things. I'll be waiting for the trickle down effects. Hahaha. Hey, I did my part by buying a gen 2 Prius, now we are starting to see EVs proliferate.
Possibly the best mono-arm design yet, but ibis bikes are always super divisive design wise, I really like the options it provides you with, dual crown forks, mullet, travel options etc and best ebike motor with worst control system imo.
It is hard for me to get used to mono swingarm. Always reminds me of the old ybikes and stuff that was so ugly. I also liked the old Ibis logo a lot. I guess it’s just a case of old dogs not learning new tricks and designs. Time will tell if I can get used to it.
Fantastic review definitely a very interesting bike I'm a fan of Orange Bikes so the mono swing arm got my attention linked up with the DW link that's a bit mind blowing would definitely be a nice bike to try out overall a very nice looking bike well done Ibis and well done to yourself for the review
I think it’s a good decision by Ibis to go all in with the short chain stay mono-link, easy battery access and integrated lighting. They are one of the few companies that can pull that off without being butchered in the comment sections and it’s all very practical. Personally I’d wish for a lighter version without removable battery and the lights. Ideally with a EP8 Shimano.
I really like the looks! I come from a motorcycle background (sport, naked, dirt) and the mono-swing arm just looks normal to me. I currently ride an Ibis Ripley and a Levo Expert, and love both. I hope my dealer gets one to demo soon so I can see how it stacks up against my Levo!
I am feeling ambivalent with regards to the swing arm. First impression is that I thought it looked a little ugly. During your review, I got used to the look though. I also think the display should be integrated into the bike, my screen will definitely break if I had a crash. Otherwise cool bike and great review. Its definitely pricey but seems like that's how ebikes are nowadays. The fuel exe definitely nails the stealth look but just has some teething issues. I am looking forward to the transition light weight ebike.
Great review! Can you comment a bit more about the gen 3 Levo vs the Oso. You say the ibis feels like a 44lb bike where at least in the sworks the Levo is a 44lb bike. The weight on the ibis looks real low like evil which in my experience seems to disappear but please say more if you can.
Dissector DD is the best rear tire I've had, so that's a great spec. But more importantly that black prototype suits the bike much better, and looks a lot faster.
@@EMTBReview I just built it from the frame up so only have around 100 miles on it so far. I think I’m going to end up putting the cascade long travel link and a longer shock so I can get the pressures down so the shock will last longer that’s what I keep seeing people do to make the rear more plush and better overall. As far as the motor hopefully it will last a while I’m not crazy hard on bikes so we’ll see at least the warranty should be good from specialized.
I really like the unique look the Oso. I like unique designs. But I'm a little torn between whether it's ugly or not. However at $11K. The fork is crap and that that display is for sure a swing and a miss. Why would you not integrate it into the frame. It took them 6 years to develop this but that display was an afterthought.
This bike screams for a triple clamp fork and coil shock! If this is the “bear” oso then give it the beans in suspension. If they say this is their ripmo ebike iteration I’ll wait for the ripley version/stealth.
I love the look and design of it, but that price is way too high and as you said a 38 elite would have been a far better choice. I have a Megawatt Elite which has similar components, ALU frame, but was £6k.
As efficient as DW-Link swingarm is, I can't get over how dated and ugly it looks. It screams San Andreas. Plus, 1st gen. anything I'm suspect of. Nobody wants to drop 11k to be a Guinea Pig. I ride a Gen 3 Levo Pro and would not trade it. It would feel like a step down. Ibis makes beautiful and very efficient bikes. I'm not sold that this will qualify as either. I suppose time will tell. Good review otherwise. Thanks Francis.
@@EMTBReview, no question. I feel Specialized has nearly perfected the ebike revolution science. Hard to top the Gen. 3 Levo all around. Some ebikes might be better in some elements but not overall. You can make the Levo long travel as well. I swapped out my links with Cascade Components link (165mm rear now) and swapped Fox 38 factory Air spring with a 170mm spring. Rides even more dreamy and maintained the same geometry and balance as stock setup. It's a beast of a bike.
@@JHovsepian never been hooked on levos i think there a poorly specced bike for the money there bottom end levo with a 500wh battery is nearly the same price as a cube action team with a 750wh battery with full fox kashima, but hey everybody to there own
@@JHovsepian How many motors have you burned through already?? Levo is a great bike, but until they figure out the nonstop motor issues, I would never buy one!...Who wants to be stuck miles away from home, having to pedal or walk that monster home? Every single Levo owner I know has gone through 3-4 motors already and most are on brand new Levo Gen3/ 2022 models
@@williamfried3107, how about zero motors and going on 2500 miles? Making assumptions is naive and dismissive. I'm not saying the Levo is perfect and I haven't drank the Kool Aid blindly. It's a pretty damn dialed and I feel Specialized R&D had worked out a lot of the kinks in motor as well as frame/geometry. I personally can't wait for full power e-mtb's to get lighter (40 lbs.) without compromising power and range. I give that another 2-3 years tops. These are just my experience and opinion. Show me a perfect motor and a perfect ebike and I'm on board. Personally speaking, the Gen 3 Brose motor has been significantly improved. End result, whatever makes you feel good and gets you out riding while having fun.
@@JHovsepian Thats great Joe! I think you are one of the very few lucky ones. I can only speak for the 4 Levo owners in my riding group, 3 that have brand new Levos (1 has an Sworks), and 1 which owns a 2021 version. All have had motor replacements with the most coming from the 2022 Gen 3 Levos (motor #4 and 5 for all of them). It is a true shame, as the Brose motor is awesome when its working!
@@EMTBReview that being said, I think your review is great. I’m sure the bike is as great as you say as it is but for me, with so many good bikes out there, I have to like the way it looks too. I know ibis makes great bikes but something about all their bikes feels incomplete or off.
@@EMTBReview does look better in black.. something about all the cables plus the light and that horrid bosch display up from makes it look like a commuter bike, kinda clunky. you have a sleek over designed rear end mated with commuter front. also, for the money slap a fox factory fork on there! I thought bosch had a minimalist remote with no display now?
Absolutely love the design of this bike ❤ I have a Polygon Mt Bromo N8 which has the same arrangement. So I don’t need talking into one of these. I wish the Oso came with Fox Factory shocks though. I realise it probably came down to $$$$
I would say it's top 5, even with the latest crop of great emtbs. The drop in price to $8k, move to Sram Transmission and some clean-up of the wire mess addresses some of my original concerns and offers a better package.
I LLLL Love Ibis as a company and Its all I rode before E bikes, for over 20 years, and I bought a new Ripmo last year, that I really like. I think they did a great job on the geo-travel-look. but the lights and switchs and controls are really accessory looking. I really like a more stealth E bike since I've been sneeking around on my Levo-Kenevo's since 2017. And the way Spec. slid the battery up inside the frame looks much better to me. But, I rode an Oso and it does what its suppose to do. its solid and it felt very nice, and I personally think the swing arm and frame style is fantastic.
I have about 700 miles now on my Ibis Oso, and I have had it 3 months. It levels any trail, stops on a dime, and climbs at 19 MPH. The haters who say its ugly dont know its capabilities. You dont see it when your on it going 30 mph on a single track, but its a beautiful thing in that moment of trail domination. Great review, all very true and accurate. Hitting my pedals a lot at first, doing more ratcheting in rock gardens now. I like longer rides, and I am using all the battery, so 750 is just ok, 900 would have been better.
There is a motor but no throttle to avoid pedal strikes in rocky areas, why not take advantage of all the benefits of a motor when designing an e-bike? The class one e-bike laws are insane.
bike look awesome but can you fit other shocks in there ie new RockShox vivid or are you stuck with fox ? and apparently the low bb is an issue with pedal strikes ?
Best Oso review on TH-cam! I appreciate the candid review of the bike, but with the recent price drop I think I am going to pull the trigger. I want something that will ride like my Ripmo, but give me the fun of an e-bike. Just demoed the Trek exe and it was fun but I want full power for longer days and bigger climbs. Keep up the good work!
I love Ibis, as I have a Ripmo and Ripley AF. But I'm not too hot about the Oso: too expensive, Bosch cockpit layout looks messy, and integrated lights. I love the design though. I was hoping they'd go light/mid power like the Trek Fuel EXe or Orbea Rise.
I appreciate the honest review of the good and bad points. I've had an Ibis Mojo HD and currently a Ripley V4, so I'm an Ibis and DW link fan. I like that they went with a long travel, as that would be a reason I would get an e-bike, to be able to shuttle a heavy big travel bike myself. I have an Intense Uzzi and it's a 43lb struggle to pedal uphill in order to bomb the downhills.
Haha knew it! Those fun little hip jumps give it away, and I could see the two trees you have to go between on that jump they call field goal in the background of one of your shots as well. Yeah man Mile and Crack are both hella gnat. If you look on the trail fork app has Mile categorized as double black and Crack as red. I live in the city but my two favorite places to ride are Annadel state park up in Santa Rosa and El Corte de Madera Creek Preserve in Redwood city. Juaquin Miller Park, Pacifica, Briones, Carlmont and Mt. Sutro are all fun but those 2 spots are the best in the bay area if you ask me. If you have the time to drive then Santa Cruz, Downeyville and Auburn are amazing as well
Man, I've been nearing analysis paralysis looking at e-bikes the past few weeks. Bikes at the top of the list have been the Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay, Yeti 160e, 2023 Orbea Wild, and this one. I live in Phoenix with a lot of rocky techy climbs and I was all about the Rocky Mountain until I heard so many people complaining about the low bottom bracket and constant pedal strikes which would definitely be an issue on the trails I ride so that was a no-go. The 160e sounds awesome, but between its super stiff suspension (set up for racing) and the noisy ep8 motor (whhhhhyyyyy on a $13k bike???) it ended up taking a step down. I really like what I'm reading and seeing about the brand new Orbea Wild, but availability is an issue. My LBS as well as a few online retailers are saying July at the earliest for the M-TEAM edition and I just don't want to wait that long. So it was down to the Oso and between having a Ripley v4 and everything I'm hearing about it, I decided to go for it. I should get it in a week or so, cannot wait! Your video definitely helped me decide, there really aren't a lot of reviews out there that I could find. And I figured that if I get the Oso and it's just not for me, I can ride it until the Wild's start becoming available (I rode the previous Wild and loved it).
Ok Francis, having just come from your Heckler review to this, how would you compare both of the Santa Cruz's to the Ibis, especially when considering the weight difference?
Keep up your good work great information and descriptions. Would like to hear your review after the winter months. With such tight /level clearances around the shock does it load up with loam brush/mud I am impressed with the Oso considering buying one next year. I do not like the light system and the added cost nor do I like the Bosch display and switch.
It’s an interesting bike for sure. Great review. But $11k and fox performance feels off. Curious how you’d compare the Nukeproof Megawatt that’s coming to the US to the Oso and other Enduro eMTBs you reviewed (Commencal, SC Bullit). I think price point is more reasonable and it has received positive feedback on ride feel.
I personally think Ibis nailed it with the looks overall. The mini swingarm was done right here and it's one of my favorite looking Ebikes. Glad to see thin mix things up and make a fun different looking bike. Would 100% buy one if I was a dentist
Really enjoyed the review. Your honesty and live comparisons to other brands is what we need when considering these expensive purchases. Would appreciate more first person riding impressions (climbing difficult features, descending challenging terrain). Thank you
Hi Francis, honestly how do you find the 50lbs weight of this bike? I love the look of it but the SC Heckler 29 is at least in the 40lbs range - 50lbs seems almost too heavy. I have a farmer's fence near one of my trails (UK) - I have to lift my bike over it. Can't see how I could lift this over a fence. As much as MTB is about riding it can also be about lifting/pushing as off-road terrain can be very diverse.
I test rode an Ibis with duolink rear recently and was impressed by it, so i was drawn to your e-Ibis review. The look? first impression was that it looks heavy or maybe even clunky. But the more I looked at it the more I liked it. perhaps there was little or no chain slap? excellent review. You really are hitting on my hot questions. I've got a 7 year old Trek Fuel EX9 and am looking to move over to an e bike - my choice at present is the Trek Fuel EXe 9.7 SO - when I hear you say the bigger motor is where its at with e bikes - makes me take notice and question my thinking that I just want that little extra boost for that top part of the climb where I'd have to bail out and push or perhaps that unexpected rock that appears around a tight corner.
I could take or leave the looks. I’m kinda impartial on that. I hate the color and the Bosch Display is a dealbreaker for me. If I was looking for a new EMTB I wouldn’t look twice at this one
When I saw this I immediately thought of a ebike from Pole out of Finland. The Oso is definitely for some of the more technical descents around Montara mountain and bike parks in Tahoe. I prefer the original Ibis logo. I like everything about the Oso except for the weight. For my first ebike I'd buy the Ibis if Trek had not come out their EXE.
Incredible bike that desperately needs accessory corrections. Lights should be 1500 Lumen min with trail beam pattern and detachable heads. Display and buttons are really sub par. Re route and clean up the housing. Still an amazing bike from ibis.
Really like the look of this bike. I agree the electronics look horrible and ruin the overall experience. Much nicer with top tube integrated electronics and smaller more precise buttons for mode switching. I really wish all the motor mfg's could crack the silence code and get more motors like the new TQ.
Hi Francis. What size were you riding? I want to pull the trigger on this bike but I am 5' 6". The reach number on the medium at 460 is longer than my usual. I am have ridden 430 - 450 depending on the bike. Don't want the small as it comes with a 625 watt battery and they aren't available ATM. Thanks,
I'm going to wait til they make it full 170 f / 170 r w/ Bosch Race pedal assist motor maybe include the new Bosch integrated tech that just came out this yr
Awesome bike! And the fact that you can bump up the travel front and rear, is always welcome! Also, the lights can be disassembled in order to reduce battery consumption. How would you compare it to the Pivot Shuttle LT? Keep up the good work!
Great review fc! Some very useful insights and comps from a guy who has ridden so many eMTB's. I just built mine up! It looks amazing too with custom wrap by Stikrd. I did full AXS and skipped the flat screen since the new controller tells me everything I need to know while in motion, just like my Gen2 Levo. I do really appreciate the MasterMind on my KSL, but in all honesty I hardly ever look at it, so I don't think I will miss all the data more than I love the clean cockpit. As soon as the embargo lifts on something new I'll post up pics so folks can see how clean the front of this bike can be. Favorite part of your review? Now I don't have to read the instructions about how to turn my lights on and off, LoL!
FTR, we just built one with the DHX2 long stroked and it fits very cleanly. Bike looks proper with a 180 Factory 38 up front. I put a DVO Jade X coil in mine to see if it will fit and it looks like that one will work just barely. Didn't swap the hardware as that rear shock eye hardware kit is not something that wants to come out easily and I'm running the Float X2 for the photo shoot first... So full test on that to come later.
I think Ibis hit it out of the park with this Oso. I have spent a lot of time very close to this bike and the detail work is very Gen3 looking, which makes sense given it is their 3rd Gen! The look is totally eye popping and by far the best looking mono-swing arm ever. Those older models you flashed were just terrible on the eyes while Roxy's flowy design is just artful and functional at the same time. Never an easy task! I sort of hated on the lighting system at first, but then realized that I've been riding at night for three decades and have always wanted built in lights, lol. These are just perfect for getting to and from the trails more safely and allows us to save the battery of our main trail light for riding trails. Very clean too.
Last I just have to throw props to the new logo and branding. Ibis has never blasted us with their logos and this bike has plenty of real estate to put big logos all over, and they did not. Instead they have a very clean logo that looks great. I'll miss the classic head badge on the one hand while appreciating the new head badge with the other. None of our customers ever could tell what that old head badge was about anyhow!
Another killer Ibis bike takes flight...
Thanks for the review Francis. It took a minute to come to grips with the frame design but by the end of the video and listening to the segment with Roxy explaining the design process I've come around. I love that they went for a full power, long travel eBike and made it ride like a regular mtb. Looks like Scot and his team hit a home run. And yeah, that display needs to be integrated in the top tube.
I'm ok with the mono-swing arm...and the DW link to reduce pedal feedback or squatting. So the kinematics look promising, and best looking mono-link I've seen. I trust your "stiffness appraisal" and performance review. I think the DH and Enduro race crowd be luv'n it. But it's more "moto" E-mtb looking than "trail-duro" analogue E-mtb looking....it's swing arm just "stands" out more. I know it's full-powered. Again, Class 1 trail access makes it harder for stealth. ln contrast, take the Trek Fuel Ex-e. Now beef it up to a TQ 65nNm motor, and toss in a 475 Wh battery with 160 rear travel and boom...perfection🤯 Maybe the Transition Relay Fazua 60 next Spring will be the happy medium 42 lb enduro E-mtb.🍻
@@EMTBReview yep, your Fuel Ex-e review was a good one, better than most IMHO 👍🍻
Very detailed and thorough review Francis, keep up the great work as always!
I'm getting mine next week. Stoked!
It seems that every Ibis bike is beautiful. Somehow they are even able to make a Mono Swingarm look fancy! I love how they are not afraid to combine SRAM and Shimano. It’s about time this is done. Maybe soon all of these components will be interchangeable. baahaaahaa.
I hope someday I will be able to ride this bike and see all the fun for myself.
The swing arm is baller. Just like a motocross bike. I love it. The thought of trading in my Ripmo has crossed my mind. The Oso is a home run from Ibis.
Wow, Wow, Wow!!
About 3 years ago I went to the Ibis HQ to demo the V1 Ripmo and take a tour. They voluntarily told me they are working on an Ebike. Earlier this year I rode at Skeggs and there was a guy connected to Ibis who said they been testing Prototypes. So I'm not surprised they finally released one!
I am surprised that there is only one price point though. I wouldn't be surprised if they release an Oso AF next week!...LOL.
$11K is steep though. I'm sure it lives up to their reputation! They really put the time in to create great bikes!
I'm still loving my V1 Ripmo and enjoy the benefits of Cardio. I'll eventually get one though. I did demo a Levo in Santa Cruz which was impressive a few months back. But am very loyal to Ibis so I'll probably get one eventually. I'd love to demo one!
Btw, the video stated the Medium is a Mullet? I'm sure you can get a 29er in a Medium?
Also, isn't that Pacifica you're demoing it at?
I can't wait to watch JKW's video on this. I'm sure it will be an interesting review!!
I love the look of that swing arm, that’s a beautiful bike. Another thing I really like is that there’s plenty of room in the middle triangle for an extender battery. Hopefully Bosch comes out with an extender battery soon, hopefully for next year‘s model. Carrying 1150 watts for big rides (750/400), would be just freaking awesome, and if that bike is plush enough, it’ll be no problem to go that far. I think they’re on the right path.
I am part of a group of riders in Colorado that does long rides. So everybody is carrying two batteries these days. We’ve been in need of great solutions from manufactures so we can have the bike carrying 950 to 1200 Watts or so. We’re getting too old to keep caring extra batteries on our back. Thanks for the video.
Love the new logo, the bike and your review! It was hard keeping tight lipped at Outerbike Moab this weekend having had a sneak peek from Chuckie!
Thanks for the detailed review, I purchased an Aventon Sinch ebike from SWFL Golf Carts and have my eyes on the Ibis Oso Embt, will definitely visit a store and check it out in person
Great review as always Francis! Love the look and sound freaking amazing. For me, the Bosch system is a complete deal breaker. From the noise to the ride feel and especially the display and controls. Ibis should have waited till Bosch release their new display systems. For that sort of money, I think it should be discrete and work perfectly.
Aside from the weight and the display, this looks perfect, even to this Luddite. I'll probably never own an ebike but a Levo demo fell on my lap several weeks ago and I couldn't help but smile while powering up some tight and overgrade switchbacks. They're fun for sure!
@@EMTBReview I'll probably get one for trail work duties at my local adventure loop. 8 miles of riding just to get to the problem spots! Also, for exploring the Lost Sierra! The reason I bikepack there is to get to some really cool spots that are impossible to access as a day trip.
Anyway, like I always say, thanks to you early adopters that enable manufacturers to invest R&D in these things. I'll be waiting for the trickle down effects. Hahaha. Hey, I did my part by buying a gen 2 Prius, now we are starting to see EVs proliferate.
Possibly the best mono-arm design yet, but ibis bikes are always super divisive design wise, I really like the options it provides you with, dual crown forks, mullet, travel options etc and best ebike motor with worst control system imo.
It is hard for me to get used to mono swingarm. Always reminds me of the old ybikes and stuff that was so ugly. I also liked the old Ibis logo a lot. I guess it’s just a case of old dogs not learning new tricks and designs. Time will tell if I can get used to it.
Fantastic review definitely a very interesting bike I'm a fan of Orange Bikes so the mono swing arm got my attention linked up with the DW link that's a bit mind blowing would definitely be a nice bike to try out overall a very nice looking bike well done Ibis and well done to yourself for the review
NICE! I like it Francis! Hope you are doing awesome.
I think it’s a good decision by Ibis to go all in with the short chain stay mono-link, easy battery access and integrated lighting.
They are one of the few companies that can pull that off without being butchered in the comment sections and it’s all very practical.
Personally I’d wish for a lighter version without removable battery and the lights. Ideally with a EP8 Shimano.
I really like the looks! I come from a motorcycle background (sport, naked, dirt) and the mono-swing arm just looks normal to me. I currently ride an Ibis Ripley and a Levo Expert, and love both. I hope my dealer gets one to demo soon so I can see how it stacks up against my Levo!
They pulled off the mono chainstay in my opinion. The two big cons for me is the price and the fork. I want this bike!
Subscribed! I rode an Ibis this week, but it had a lot less parts than that. ;)
Loam Wolf just reviewed this bike earlier today and I love it
@@EMTBReview yeah I know but the price tag is out of my range
Testing it in P-town! Hell yeah awesome!!!!
I am feeling ambivalent with regards to the swing arm. First impression is that I thought it looked a little ugly. During your review, I got used to the look though. I also think the display should be integrated into the bike, my screen will definitely break if I had a crash.
Otherwise cool bike and great review. Its definitely pricey but seems like that's how ebikes are nowadays. The fuel exe definitely nails the stealth look but just has some teething issues. I am looking forward to the transition light weight ebike.
Rear suspension layout looks like it came straight off a Turner DHR!
Great review! Can you comment a bit more about the gen 3 Levo vs the Oso. You say the ibis feels like a 44lb bike where at least in the sworks the Levo is a 44lb bike. The weight on the ibis looks real low like evil which in my experience seems to disappear but please say more if you can.
Great review - have you ridden the 160e, and if so how does this compare?
Dissector DD is the best rear tire I've had, so that's a great spec. But more importantly that black prototype suits the bike much better, and looks a lot faster.
Cant get over the looks! I’ll stick with my 22 s-works levo! Much better integration and way better looking!
@@EMTBReview I just built it from the frame up so only have around 100 miles on it so far.
I think I’m going to end up putting the cascade long travel link and a longer shock so I can get the pressures down so the shock will last longer that’s what I keep seeing people do to make the rear more plush and better overall.
As far as the motor hopefully it will last a while I’m not crazy hard on bikes so we’ll see at least the warranty should be good from specialized.
I really like the unique look the Oso. I like unique designs. But I'm a little torn between whether it's ugly or not. However at $11K. The fork is crap and that that display is for sure a swing and a miss. Why would you not integrate it into the frame. It took them 6 years to develop this but that display was an afterthought.
this bike is the best eMTB
So you review RC vehicles AND bikes...BKXC just got one of these bikes.
Great Review
This bike screams for a triple clamp fork and coil shock! If this is the “bear” oso then give it the beans in suspension. If they say this is their ripmo ebike iteration I’ll wait for the ripley version/stealth.
I love the look and design of it, but that price is way too high and as you said a 38 elite would have been a far better choice. I have a Megawatt Elite which has similar components, ALU frame, but was £6k.
Why would they install a commuter light on a trail bike?
I like that it's upgradeable to 170mm in back. 155 ain enough. And I love DW link. Unfortunately it's ugly. And so is the new logo.
@@EMTBReview please do an updated review of the 170mm when you can!
Is the Bosch Race motor an option?
Shame that they went with a Fox 38 instead of a Zeb. Getting to max travel means dumping both the fork and shock.
Can you compare to a Specialized Turbo Levo Comp Gen3? big price difference
@@EMTBReview agreed. Still waiting for an alloy frame only option. The components they give you are all crap till you hit sworks.
This guy must be a multi millionaire
riding in p-town!
Like it until I heard the price .ouch.
So
I'm saving my pennies now to get one. So, $1 per day saved will get me a bike in.......ummmmmmmmm
Way too beefy, I'll stick to my Trek Fuel Ex e. !
@@EMTBReview 9.5 with upgrades.
As efficient as DW-Link swingarm is, I can't get over how dated and ugly it looks. It screams San Andreas. Plus, 1st gen. anything I'm suspect of. Nobody wants to drop 11k to be a Guinea Pig. I ride a Gen 3 Levo Pro and would not trade it. It would feel like a step down.
Ibis makes beautiful and very efficient bikes. I'm not sold that this will qualify as either. I suppose time will tell. Good review otherwise. Thanks Francis.
@@EMTBReview, no question. I feel Specialized has nearly perfected the ebike revolution science. Hard to top the Gen. 3 Levo all around. Some ebikes might be better in some elements but not overall. You can make the Levo long travel as well. I swapped out my links with Cascade Components link (165mm rear now) and swapped Fox 38 factory Air spring with a 170mm spring. Rides even more dreamy and maintained the same geometry and balance as stock setup. It's a beast of a bike.
@@JHovsepian never been hooked on levos i think there a poorly specced bike for the money there bottom end levo with a 500wh battery is nearly the same price as a cube action team with a 750wh battery with full fox kashima, but hey everybody to there own
@@JHovsepian How many motors have you burned through already?? Levo is a great bike, but until they figure out the nonstop motor issues, I would never buy one!...Who wants to be stuck miles away from home, having to pedal or walk that monster home? Every single Levo owner I know has gone through 3-4 motors already and most are on brand new Levo Gen3/ 2022 models
@@williamfried3107, how about zero motors and going on 2500 miles? Making assumptions is naive and dismissive. I'm not saying the Levo is perfect and I haven't drank the Kool Aid blindly. It's a pretty damn dialed and I feel Specialized R&D had worked out a lot of the kinks in motor as well as frame/geometry. I personally can't wait for full power e-mtb's to get lighter (40 lbs.) without compromising power and range. I give that another 2-3 years tops. These are just my experience and opinion. Show me a perfect motor and a perfect ebike and I'm on board. Personally speaking, the Gen 3 Brose motor has been significantly improved. End result, whatever makes you feel good and gets you out riding while having fun.
@@JHovsepian Thats great Joe! I think you are one of the very few lucky ones. I can only speak for the 4 Levo owners in my riding group, 3 that have brand new Levos (1 has an Sworks), and 1 which owns a 2021 version. All have had motor replacements with the most coming from the 2022 Gen 3 Levos (motor #4 and 5 for all of them). It is a true shame, as the Brose motor is awesome when its working!
Those guys must be getting high, Who can afford that thing?
It's ugly but seems eFective
Since you asked, gut reaction is: that’s one ugly bike.
@@EMTBReview that being said, I think your review is great. I’m sure the bike is as great as you say as it is but for me, with so many good bikes out there, I have to like the way it looks too. I know ibis makes great bikes but something about all their bikes feels incomplete or off.
That’s one ugly bike.. my first reaction! Lol
@@EMTBReview does look better in black.. something about all the cables plus the light and that horrid bosch display up from makes it look like a commuter bike, kinda clunky. you have a sleek over designed rear end mated with commuter front. also, for the money slap a fox factory fork on there! I thought bosch had a minimalist remote with no display now?
Absolutely love the design of this bike ❤
I have a Polygon Mt Bromo N8 which has the same arrangement. So I don’t need talking into one of these.
I wish the Oso came with Fox Factory shocks though. I realise it probably came down to $$$$
Great review - any chance you’ll get your hands on a Commencal bike to review as well? I’m cross shopping the commencals in the
Came back to your review again because I am really interested in the bike...is it still in your top 3 eMTBS?
I would say it's top 5, even with the latest crop of great emtbs. The drop in price to $8k, move to Sram Transmission and some clean-up of the wire mess addresses some of my original concerns and offers a better package.
I’m a first time viewer, I appreciate how you provide the logic in all the design decisions, not just mentioning the spec
Much appreciated. Make sure to stick around and spread the word about the channel. Keep commenting too.
I LLLL Love Ibis as a company and Its all I rode before E bikes, for over 20 years, and I bought a new Ripmo last year, that I really like. I think they did a great job on the geo-travel-look. but the lights and switchs and controls are really accessory looking. I really like a more stealth E bike since I've been sneeking around on my Levo-Kenevo's since 2017. And the way Spec. slid the battery up inside the frame looks much better to me. But, I rode an Oso and it does what its suppose to do. its solid and it felt very nice, and I personally think the swing arm and frame style is fantastic.
I have about 700 miles now on my Ibis Oso, and I have had it 3 months. It levels any trail, stops on a dime, and climbs at 19 MPH. The haters who say its ugly dont know its capabilities. You dont see it when your on it going 30 mph on a single track, but its a beautiful thing in that moment of trail domination. Great review, all very true and accurate. Hitting my pedals a lot at first, doing more ratcheting in rock gardens now. I like longer rides, and I am using all the battery, so 750 is just ok, 900 would have been better.
Updated thoughts with the new pricing and updated parts?
There is a motor but no throttle to avoid pedal strikes in rocky areas, why not take advantage of all the benefits of a motor when designing an e-bike? The class one e-bike laws are insane.
I have one , and Iove it
So good!!!
You ate up the Mile with the OSO!
Right? It looked and felt flattish on that day.
bike look awesome but can you fit other shocks in there ie new RockShox vivid or are you stuck with fox ? and apparently the low bb is an issue with pedal strikes ?
Most ebikes have 160mm length cranks to prevent pedal strikes in rocky areas. Not sure what comes stock in the Oso.
HATE that swing arm. Need bigger caps to write that. Horrible. But will trust it because DW link rules
Best Oso review on TH-cam! I appreciate the candid review of the bike, but with the recent price drop I think I am going to pull the trigger. I want something that will ride like my Ripmo, but give me the fun of an e-bike. Just demoed the Trek exe and it was fun but I want full power for longer days and bigger climbs. Keep up the good work!
I love Ibis, as I have a Ripmo and Ripley AF. But I'm not too hot about the Oso: too expensive, Bosch cockpit layout looks messy, and integrated lights. I love the design though. I was hoping they'd go light/mid power like the Trek Fuel EXe or Orbea Rise.
I love the interview part❤
I appreciate the honest review of the good and bad points. I've had an Ibis Mojo HD and currently a Ripley V4, so I'm an Ibis and DW link fan. I like that they went with a long travel, as that would be a reason I would get an e-bike, to be able to shuttle a heavy big travel bike myself. I have an Intense Uzzi and it's a 43lb struggle to pedal uphill in order to bomb the downhills.
You're in the bay area huh? I recognize boy scouts haha
Haha knew it! Those fun little hip jumps give it away, and I could see the two trees you have to go between on that jump they call field goal in the background of one of your shots as well. Yeah man Mile and Crack are both hella gnat. If you look on the trail fork app has Mile categorized as double black and Crack as red. I live in the city but my two favorite places to ride are Annadel state park up in Santa Rosa and El Corte de Madera Creek Preserve in Redwood city. Juaquin Miller Park, Pacifica, Briones, Carlmont and Mt. Sutro are all fun but those 2 spots are the best in the bay area if you ask me. If you have the time to drive then Santa Cruz, Downeyville and Auburn are amazing as well
Man, I've been nearing analysis paralysis looking at e-bikes the past few weeks. Bikes at the top of the list have been the Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay, Yeti 160e, 2023 Orbea Wild, and this one. I live in Phoenix with a lot of rocky techy climbs and I was all about the Rocky Mountain until I heard so many people complaining about the low bottom bracket and constant pedal strikes which would definitely be an issue on the trails I ride so that was a no-go. The 160e sounds awesome, but between its super stiff suspension (set up for racing) and the noisy ep8 motor (whhhhhyyyyy on a $13k bike???) it ended up taking a step down. I really like what I'm reading and seeing about the brand new Orbea Wild, but availability is an issue. My LBS as well as a few online retailers are saying July at the earliest for the M-TEAM edition and I just don't want to wait that long. So it was down to the Oso and between having a Ripley v4 and everything I'm hearing about it, I decided to go for it. I should get it in a week or so, cannot wait! Your video definitely helped me decide, there really aren't a lot of reviews out there that I could find. And I figured that if I get the Oso and it's just not for me, I can ride it until the Wild's start becoming available (I rode the previous Wild and loved it).
Ride report?
Love your reviews keek up the good work 👍🏻
Typical Ibis beauty! I have 2 Ibis bikes already. Lights s/b optional. Love the mullet. They have cheapened their legendary headmast!
Ok Francis, having just come from your Heckler review to this, how would you compare both of the Santa Cruz's to the Ibis, especially when considering the weight difference?
Like how hard do you ride this bike to really see how this bike performs?
Keep up your good work great information and descriptions. Would like to hear your review after the winter months.
With such tight /level clearances around the shock does it load up with loam brush/mud
I am impressed with the Oso considering buying one next year. I do not like the light system and the added cost nor do I like the Bosch display and switch.
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Great to see how enthusiastic you talk, great review!
Absolutely LOVE the mono swing arm. Beautiful bike!!
It’s an interesting bike for sure. Great review. But $11k and fox performance feels off. Curious how you’d compare the Nukeproof Megawatt that’s coming to the US to the Oso and other Enduro eMTBs you reviewed (Commencal, SC Bullit). I think price point is more reasonable and it has received positive feedback on ride feel.
No chance, just too much for me, suspension is definitely different
I've got a 21 levo SL that has been flawless for half that , but the ibis is cool just pricey
Mmmmm no🎉
I personally think Ibis nailed it with the looks overall. The mini swingarm was done right here and it's one of my favorite looking Ebikes. Glad to see thin mix things up and make a fun different looking bike. Would 100% buy one if I was a dentist
Really enjoyed the review. Your honesty and live comparisons to other brands is what we need when considering these expensive purchases. Would appreciate more first person riding impressions (climbing difficult features, descending challenging terrain). Thank you
Ugly...just flat out Ugly 🤢👽😵💫👻
Hi Francis, honestly how do you find the 50lbs weight of this bike? I love the look of it but the SC Heckler 29 is at least in the 40lbs range - 50lbs seems almost too heavy. I have a farmer's fence near one of my trails (UK) - I have to lift my bike over it. Can't see how I could lift this over a fence. As much as MTB is about riding it can also be about lifting/pushing as off-road terrain can be very diverse.
I test rode an Ibis with duolink rear recently and was impressed by it, so i was drawn to your e-Ibis review. The look? first impression was that it looks heavy or maybe even clunky. But the more I looked at it the more I liked it. perhaps there was little or no chain slap?
excellent review. You really are hitting on my hot questions. I've got a 7 year old Trek Fuel EX9 and am looking to move over to an e bike - my choice at present is the Trek Fuel EXe 9.7 SO - when I hear you say the bigger motor is where its at with e bikes - makes me take notice and question my thinking that I just want that little extra boost for that top part of the climb where I'd have to bail out and push or perhaps that unexpected rock that appears around a tight corner.
nice bike, but I hate the looks, price, the weight, the bosh cockpit clutter and the lights.
How come this bike looks huge.
I could take or leave the looks. I’m kinda impartial on that. I hate the color and the Bosch Display is a dealbreaker for me. If I was looking for a new EMTB I wouldn’t look twice at this one
Colour is horrible
It's beautiful, Ibis builds beautiful bikes = period!
I wanna know who has 12 or 13k to buy these I mean there’s no way my wife would let me spend so much
When I saw this I immediately thought of a ebike from Pole out of Finland. The Oso is definitely for some of the more technical descents around Montara mountain and bike parks in Tahoe. I prefer the original Ibis logo. I like everything about the Oso except for the weight. For my first ebike I'd buy the Ibis if Trek had not come out their EXE.
@@EMTBReview Not yet. I look forward to your long term test video.
Incredible bike that desperately needs accessory corrections. Lights should be 1500 Lumen min with trail beam pattern and detachable heads. Display and buttons are really sub par. Re route and clean up the housing. Still an amazing bike from ibis.
Sorry, new logo sucks. The old one was classic.
Really like the look of this bike. I agree the electronics look horrible and ruin the overall experience. Much nicer with top tube integrated electronics and smaller more precise buttons for mode switching. I really wish all the motor mfg's could crack the silence code and get more motors like the new TQ.
Hey Francis do you have the medium frame there or large?
Hi Francis. What size were you riding? I want to pull the trigger on this bike but I am 5' 6". The reach number on the medium at 460 is longer than my usual. I am have ridden 430 - 450 depending on the bike. Don't want the small as it comes with a 625 watt battery and they aren't available ATM. Thanks,
Women design things for women?
I'm going to wait til they make it full 170 f / 170 r w/ Bosch Race pedal assist motor maybe include the new Bosch integrated tech that just came out this yr
Awesome bike! And the fact that you can bump up the travel front and rear, is always welcome! Also, the lights can be disassembled in order to reduce battery consumption. How would you compare it to the Pivot Shuttle LT? Keep up the good work!