2022 Canyon Spectral:ON - Huge Battery, Low Weight!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ย. 2024
- Canyon just dropped an all new 2023 Spectral:On with a massive 900Wh battery, Rockshox Flight Attendant, Full Wireless drivetrain and low weight of 22.8KG.
Model shown, Canyon Spectral:On CFR LTD.
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900Wh battery, 22.8 KG, impressive! Go for the 720Wh battery and its 21.9KG! What you folks think of this new Spectral?
You ridden it yet? I assume so. I think we have reached peak battery.... lol
My future sees bikes with half sized main batteries for regular rides with your non-ebiking mates, or days at the bikepark, and a bigger than current extender for those long days out exploring. Don't see the point of lugging 2kg of extra battery around if you're not going to use it. Something like 500Wh main + a 375Wh extender.
More range brooo 🚀💥🤘🏼
It’s an amazing bike! However this spec is 11000 euro. :’(
Great Bike!
Very pleased and happy with this bike.
“The batteries not that heavy” as Robs wrist looks like it’s away to snap 😂
😳😳👍😂
Does the motor rattle though? For £10000 you would absolutely expect perfection and absolutely no rattling motor!
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! I wonder if an ebike manufacturer will cross the line of too light a frame soon and have to do a recall because of too many frame failures? This time Canyon saved most of the weight in other components but once those savings are used up the frames will get lighter and weaker! Hope you and family are well Rob! Ride ride ride!
Lol. 10k.
Consider what car you could buy with 10k then consider how bank manufacturers are ripping you off….
“Loads so tech”…my arse. It’s a bike with a generic motor and a battery.
And not even 100km range….
Wow, that's quick! The bike isn't even on the North American site yet. Really glad that e-bikes weight are starting to come down. Looking forward to your riding it. Cheers! 👍
I think it's absolutely stunning. Best looking full fat ebike.
nice bike , i like the looks of it , but the price is too much for me , 12.500 euro and a noisy motor .
Haha robs arm looked like he was trying to reel in jaws holding that battery 😂.
Waiting for the enduro version!
Hopefully!
Dear Rob,
Thank you very much for the great review. Just a few ideas from my side:
- probably the e-bike with the most e-Integration will be the greip with Its online cameras and online tracking
- I hope there will be a discussion soon, why e-shifting and e-Suspension in a mountainbike makes sence with the nearly incredible price tag.
My 3 year old YT Deco, for example, would probably lose only some minutes during a whole day of riding given the same rider.
Best regards
Christian
Very nice! Loved my old canyon spectral on but it was £3.5k 😂👍🏻
Sexy frame and spec but I personally like big travel eBikes. Always interesting to hear your observations on stuff though. Roll on your review of the Pole. It's probably the only thing that would make me look outside Mondraker at the moment
Prices are getting absolutely stupid.
900wh is insane. But very well sorted out in terms of integration. Bad ass looking. Reminds me in parts of turbo levo. Chunky motor area based on the big battery which can be taken out as well as on the turbo levo. 😏 Looking forward to your review!
I live in Bellingham WA and my backyard trails start with 1,000’ or greater climbs, so this looks really appealing. I could see how it’d be overkill if you don’t have the big elevation changes in your riding area.
Love the tech and the massive battery on this bike, it's begging for a longer travel Zeb or 38 though
Great content again rob….. I do love ya bike checks…..👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻
Finally, a bike that can power my home
Just ride non ebike for downhill and hail taxi for every uphill and to drive you from home 100 miles to trail centre. Or a mate with a 125 to tow you up hill. I don’t think you could possibly come close to the price of this ! 🥵
Is the chain rubbing the chainstay protector in the smallest gear?......
What bike manufacturer would use the ep8 motor with that nasty downhill rattle I just can't understand it.
Would have thought Flight Attendant would have been a bit of a waste on an Ebike🤔 It’s there to make stiffen the suspension for greater efficiency on the climbs, not as important when you have a motor assisting you. I suppose if you have the money to blow, go right ahead.
I’d prefer a lighter fork and shock, without the electronics. Great weight for that battery size though 👍🏼
Try 170mm Lyrik too Rob
Very nice bike!
With the 720Wh battery it's about the same weight as my 3.5yr old Turbo Levo - so nothing much has changed in that regard! Despite all the bad press, my Turbo Levo has had ZERO issues! But maybe that's because I actually look after and maintain my bike? Still love it and nothing new has come out yet that would make me trade it in
for it to be that 'light' its gonna be compromised on frame lay up. less carbon means less integrity of high stress areas. expect to see broken head tubes, bottom bracket mounts, suspension pivot areas. i dont buy their marketing blurb. from an engineering perspective its gonna be less materials to make frame lighter.
Its saying NO on the chainring and i think they have got that right . That low slung battery ...... we need to get ovet fallen trees and logs..... the handlebar and stem combo ..... just dont do that ..... ive set up many bikes for many people ..... handlebar throw and roll are so diferent for everyone . C'mon rob lets see you ride it over a fallen tree .... cheers for the great content as always
Love the review. Hate the WHO-ASKED-FOR-THIS 'Flight attendant' tech with sensors that fail expensively? I wish they would shift their tech innovations to Anti-Theft features! That is something we actually need. Thanks, Rob
Not worth the price 👎
Mountain biking Industry has become a giant scam
Thanks Rob... great video as always! 👍 Canyon is really impressing here with their tech and spec. This CFR.. expensive yes, but the spec for what your getting is still considerably less than other manufacturers. Waiting to see if they introduce this in an Enduro version... cheers!
I’d love to see an enduro version too !
Hey Rob, seeing some of your images on other youtube channels, (not just the new Canyon Spectral). Hope you have some understandings with these.
Thanks for your originality 👍
Hi - which ones?! Thanks for the heads up!
@@RobRidesEMTB
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God dam that's a mucho dinero ebike, I'd be scared to ride it. Love the bar stem combo think it's called gul
Lovely thing, but for the same price as a mid-size adventure-bike that can literally take you around the world...
I got to rally about on last year’s Spectral:ON CFR9 for a week and I really liked it. The mullet configuration made it feel more flickable than the Rocky PowerPlay I tested around the same time. Overall I liked the geo and the decent battery size - which was bigger than the longer-travel Torque, oddly enough. But this 900Wh model seems to be a big improvement especially given the longer reach on the biggest frame size. (I ride XL frames.) I am however a little anxious about the yoke-driven shock which can be a recipe for high maintenance costs. I also remain skeptical of the usefulness of Flight Attendant, ESPECIALLY for ebikes. And that cable routing through the headset looks like another maintenance issue. I suppose it’s pennies cheaper to run the cables this way vs setting up the carbon mold to accommodate routing that way. Silly, for sure. (Looking at you too, Transition Bike Co, and the new Repeater with its goofy headset.)
When you going to review the norco range vlt?
Canyon- look at all this tech, big battery, light frame. but then stick a 150 lyrik on it? Trying to get buyers to pay for their next enduro model i think. What is this bike a direct competitor too?
My Large Turbo Levo Comp 2020 with an Alloy frame and a 700 watt battery is the same weight. The Carbon framed version is lighter. The Levo battery weighs 3.8kgs at 700 watts, the 900 watt battery shown here is 4.8kgs, so no real advancement. I suspect we will see a real revolution when the 4680 batteries hit the market.
@@2011buddylee that’s interesting to know. I live in the UK and the 700watt battery on my Levo is enough, where as when I had its predecessor 500 watts just caused range anxiety. As I said in my initial comment, I think we can look forward to bikes becoming a few pounds lighter when the new batteries hit the market, probably next year… exciting times.
@@2011buddylee Yep for me 700 Watts is the sweet spot, I can basically forget about the battery and just enjoy the ride. Still excited about the new tech though, I am very happy with my bike right now, but I look forward to see what comes up in a few years time.
"Hi do you like my new bike, she's got flight attendant" 😂 Say WHAAAT!
Interesting they chose the EP8 motor. Seems like the EP8 is showing up in more bikes, like the 160E Yeti, which are among the higher end “boutique” mfgs.
As soon as I heard the price .
That' was enough for me.
The prices are becoming outright silly. It seems like the manufacturers are for want of a better description involved in a pissing competition. I know the keyboard warriors will be in a pre frenzy now but really, it’s outrageous. They are following the lead of Apple i.e. praying at the altar of Greed & Avarice.
Dont worry Karl, you won the bike! We all did! 😖
I like this approach of mounting the battery. Specialised, Norco and I think also other manufacturers use it to save weight. Don't know about the really wide downtube and the 900Wh battery. Since I rode the Orbea Rise I'm sold on light weight E-MTBs with decent motor power. Maybe a 500Wh battery nicely integrated with an optional rage extender would have suited the Spectral On better?
Trek's battery system is well engineered.
A smaller battery can be put in the Spectral ON. The weight thing? I dunno the CF8 doesnt really feel heavy on the tech trails here in bidwell park, chico......There will be some days I really want that 900WH battery..most days a smaller battery would be fine.
The bike industry is going mental. You can buy a road going Ducati for a couple of quid more. Engine, gear box, clutch, lights....If Canyon et al don't wake up then they'll soon find the motorbike manufacturers poking their nose into bikes and some of those guys know what they are doing. KTM, Husqvarna already involved but only farting about.
Motorbike margins must be a lot smaller than eMTB's.
Before buying a bike from an online brand I would think 100 times, every little problem gets bigger, more expensive and takes longer to resolve. Personal experience. And I add, as other users have already mentioned, as soon as you can have it checked by a good mechanic, it happens that where you need grease, they don't put it there with the risk of ruining some (expensive) components.
You forgot to change the video description, it still says 2023. It's totally ok that this was a mistake. Your content is good. The sad thing is, it's believable that bike companies would release a '2023' bike already and maybe (being in the industry now,) you accepted that. Reset required, ey.
Great into, very nice production. Bike looks fantastic, seems like a Levo competitor with a better / worse motor depending on you view Brose. The Lyric fork are great adapted to 160 which only costs £40
Jeez, I could do my ironing on that battery down tube it's that wide
what happens when that sensor gets smashed off ?
Lovely bike and the cable routing inside the headset is smooth! Hey Rob speaking of usage categories, what level is the 9.8XT you own?
Looks great, agree 160-70 forks with 55mm rear travel
Can’t wait for the ride review. Maybe try it with that bigger fork after the first initial ride?🙏
Hello what next 🙌
@@59trevski getting scammed is next, if you fall for it!
beautiful looking bike.im still sceptical of having everything controlled by sensors.cant wait to see the ride review
@WhatsApp ①⑨⓪⑨②⑤④⑥⓪④④ hi rob ive had a message to say I have won the canyon bike is this correct
NO. SCAM
As usual a great video!
Amazing the weight is so low with that battery and the electric suspension.
Interesting to see if that suspensions a game changer… can’t see it myself. Had electronic lock out on my Lapierre a long time ago and it was awful, just unnecessary weight.
Looks cool! I went for the Spectral CF8 also in black/grey......should be here in 2 days!
Never been on an E bike ever.
The top dollar Spectrals are currently sold out in the US but more said to be on the way.
How do you like it? Ive been thinking getting that same bike
@@Shampsuli It works great, its supposed to be a general purpose trailbike and that's what I use it for, the suspension isnt the most top dollar but it feels pretty darn good on all the rocks in the park here...Ive ridden dirtbikes on singletrack for many years, this Canyon can get up a lot of the same trails.
It is without doubt a good looking bike, however, why have Canyon not offered wheel options such as a full 29er, for me it's a no brainer, as for the motor cover and battery to motor cable, PB found that this was a weak point in that the magnetised cable became detached on rough terrain, the XTR looks the better bike.
I too would like to be lighter, stiffer and stronger.
😂
160 fork and this bike is probably gonna be the best all around bike in the market 🎉
Cant wait for you to review this one!
Super expensive but great step forward. Can't wait the day when batteries will reach 1000wh, and then all you rarely need additionally is one or two 300wh range extenders that can use bottle holder space, and would not be a problem in the back pack because of size and weight, and you are ready for mega riding.
You could just try pedalling it.
Hurts even more if you're paying in Aussie dollars.....$18649.00! Damn, what happened to Canyon value?? And I thought I paid a lot for my Canyon Endurace CF SLX road bike with Red AXS at $11k 18 months ago
How can it be possible for £11k ebike has ep motor, and lyrik fork, interesting.
I stopped watching at £10,499 and had to check the date on the vid. 😭
Typo in the title Rob - spectal 👍🏼
Wow, great spot, and cant believe i did that! Fixed, thanks for the heads up!
@@RobRidesEMTB No probs at all. Having now watched the video I can’t get my head around why the 150 Lyrik, must’ve been a surplus of stock, 160 makes far more sense on that bike.
Do people need more larger battery & weight ? Think if they can cut half of the battery & add half as an option to carry along will makes more practical rather than lugging a super large say 9000amh
WHEN COMMENCAL META POWER SX?
Cheers rob
That’s a stunner
Great review! How tall are you, what size is the bike, and how do you find the fit?
It’s a nice bike. I just would expect Ohlins fork and shock more rather than RockShox at this price range. It is personal choice maybe, but this is who I am:)
so the difference between smaller and bigger batteries is about 900g. Can you feel that difference?
I bet you can, especially that all that extra weight is close to your head tube ? any thoughts ? :)
A tester of one of these 900 WH battery canyons, made 6000' of climbing, and said he wasn't babying it.
These will be the bikes towing other e-bikes out of the woods.
Looks the part rob, yes it's too expensive to the masses, but if you've want the best and have a big wallet, why not, honestly thou a 750 or 625 which I have, is enough.
I tend to agree. 625wh is the sweet spot and this bike would be sub-21Kg with that size battery. It would also allow a slimmer down tube. I suppose with the fork and battery choice they're aiming for those who go on epic rides rather than bike parks etc.
For me it’s a NO thanks! Never ever used the whole 700wh from my turbo levo. 900wh that is massive. Most of us dont ride that long at a single day. I rather see smaller and lighter bikes and a range extender for the long rides.
Have you considered people do shorter rides because they don’t have the battery range? I for one welcome larger batteries and the ability for much longer rides.
For me bigger battery is always better ,
Great review; any idea how fast it climbs? Trying to find the best hill climb racer.
all good
Too expensive for a Canyon, same price as a Santa Cruz and getting up towards Yeti prices where is the direct to consumer price? The Torque-on is almost half the price!
it has absolutely top of the shelf components, 10.000 seems like a fair price, if Santacruz decided to build a similar E-Bike it would easily cost over 16.000.
This bike is not for everyone but the price still good for what they are offering
@@andreasgoehring5769 16k! Bikes are just getting ridiculous, no way should this tech cost this much, it’s slowly becoming an elitist sport :-(
Looks nice but does the motor clank and rattle?
Rob looking at getting the canyon but I’ve read few comments now about the battery connection coming off mid ride and shuts bike off plus catching on pedal arm and breaking off have u heard anything
Very interesting concept. Live close to the Canyon Showroom in Carlsbad and will see if they have a demo model onhand. Been looking for an ebike with extended range for long trail style rides in the saddle to compliment my YT Decoy Elite and Yeti 160e. Think we'll see a continued trend from various manufacturers with bigger batteries while maintaining a respectful weight. Seems like the higher end models are spec'ed pretty nice. Too bad Canyon decided their current policy of only offering limited models in the US.
Carlsbad Canyon has a CF8 headed my way, I ordered it on Sunday, they immediately shipped it out Monday AM.
Same as they did with my Endurace Ultegra Di2 roadbike...........which I really,really like.
@@bradsanders6954 Hey Brad, how do you like the bike so far?
Does the Carlsbad store actually offer demos?
Danke!
Just seen this, thank you so much! Very kind of you!
Who needs that huge batery....
How many kilometers do You want to do? 120?
im 172cm with 81cm inside leg length. What Size do you think will fit for me (For Canyon Spectral:ON)? S or M ? (with S i cant use the 900w)
The added tech is useless and expensive when it goes wrong, the battery on the large side for what I would need. My 630 does me fine, maybe 750 at a push, but I would not want a 900. The Bosch motor seems more powerful than the shimano. So it’s a no from me.
Rob, do you like every bike you are given to review? I like this channel but every review is all so positive. They can’t all be good. Try growing a pair and say how you really feel, being tied to sponsors etc can get boring after a while.
Have you actually watched anything recently? This is simply not true. Watch my last review video on the Kellys Theos then tell me if I still need to ‘grow a pair’. I’ll see what you come back with.
@@RobRidesEMTB I just watched the Kelly Theo’s review, wow, what a production, looked great, you really gave the bike a proper work out in some gnarly terrain and fair enough, an unbiased review. However, you have nothing to lose if you want to point out negatives on a relatively unknown brand. You aren’t going to upset a big proportion of your subscribers or a good long term sponsor. Now, say you found a load of issues with the next gen Specialised Kenevo or Levo? Are you going to put it through its paces and say exactly how you feel even if you are not happy. When you know you could upset a big sponsor and equally a huge number of specialised owners that subscribe to your channel? Show me a big brand that you have made true negative comments or overall assessment of and I’ll rest my case.
Go watch the Giant Reign video, the one review before the Kellys. I mention the BB is too low, it’s too slack and poor stock tyre choice. Hopefully that’s enough to curb your cynicism?! 👊
Not sure how feel about having those thinner tire sidewalls on a high performance e mountain bike
Spectral or strive?
What's the difference between this one vs Kenevo Turbo SL?
That looks so impressive!
I think I would be more concerned about running out of money than battery!
At least its 500 $ cheaper than I thought from first a look
But 900Wh its cool and all but why? I rarely need the full 500Wh on my current bike
What about everyone else?
Tooooo expensive.
eBikes must have downhill tyres, and inserts . cant ride with a flat .
Rob will crank sensor fit on Bosch gen r motor ?
and Exo tires....so add purchasing 2 more tires day one.
I’m 6’5 which bike should I order?
That’s grouse!
I really don't care about 3kg on the bike while I can lose more than that because I'm too heavy, lol. £10500 never.
Whats the size of the disc brakes?
Just asked Canyon Support. Can't get the Spectral ON CF w/ the 900Wh battery and you're not allowed to order a spare. This true for anyone else that may have inquired?
Looks like an amazing bike, but is it just me or is that seat tube pushed really far forward? Alas, being the runt of the e-bike world, the CFR is not available in the US.