Brilliant, for my Computer Science A level coursework I'm creating an arcade style racer, and this video was not only informative but relatively quick too - which really helped me with the introduction part of project analysis! Keep up the great work, cheers!
Outrun 2006: Coast to Coast! I remember playing this game on the PSP and it played pretty well on 30 FPS! Sumo Digital completely nailed the game so much that they even developed Kart Racers of the Sega Allstar Racing series that plays more like an arcade racer than kart. But their biggest attempt was is definitely Hot Shot Racing! My goodness, one of the best racing games I have ever played. Maybe it isn't the best, but it's definitely up there as one of my favorites! I really miss arcade racers and I hope for a comeback. NFS and The Crew 2 were pretty neat, but I really couldn't get into Wreckfest nor Forza Horizon 4. People say these games are arcade, but I think of them they're simcade with a bit of sim,
Real nice analysis! A question though, you split racers into Arcade and Sim, where do you put karting games (and others with battling elements, like Re-Volt, Twisted Metal, etc) ? I also think that for way too long, "arcade" has been slapped on some racing games to justify poor physics. A good example of greats efforts while keeping far from "simulation" would be Burnout. I can't remember which one, and I'd like to find the source again, but I read at some point that they made the steering actually change lane (like turn left and then turn right, all while making the camera keep the original aim) rather than simply turn. And no one ever noticed, people just found the cars handling well.
Fortunately, there are a lot of ways to emulate different versions of Outrun 2 be it arcade, ps2, pc (abandonware), psp and xbox players can play it with retrocompatibility so nearly everyone can enjoy Outrun 2 and also Daytona USA
2:45 - Well, yes... and no. You can do that, but then you're left with an empty world, you can still feel during racing. You might get away with that with sim-racers, but with arcade racers, people generally expect more from the environment they're driving in. Especially if that environment is part of the gameplay. When I started testing the waters with my game development of a racing game, I also thought it was just plumping down some cars on a track, which could be filled with some simple assets. But in this day and age, that just doesn't look exciting. For arcade racers, the environment needs to be alive. And that takes time and effort aswell. And the flow of the track needs to fun and exciting too. Also to make sure different types of cars can run through those tracks while still keeping things fun, but challenging aswell. It's just as with fighing games. Sure it looks easy: create a backdrop, plump in 2 or more fighters and you've got yourself a fighting game. But what isn't seen, is all the balancing that runs behind it, Where fighting games have (fluid) animations to worry about, car-games, even arcade, have physics to worry about. This last point is a real struggle aswell. - Like you said further in your video aswell. So maybe it was just as an intro that you said that?
Not a clue. It's confused me, too. I thought it was one of my better ones, to be honest. Goes in depth over a number of games, seems to look alright. It's just the almighty algorithm being its usual obscure self.
this really isn't 'game design'. its just stuff that exists in racing games, which also exist in nearly every other genre unrelated to racing. talk about track design, sense of speed, and designing a 'hook' for your racer... instead of 'your racing game needs good presentation and variety'. cmon dude
Yes (not counting NFS Shift) but Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport is pretty much Simcade games (mix between arcade and simulator) both of these games has been design to be played on a gamepad targeted to casual players since they on home consoles. Sure they got support on a wheel but not so in depth in terms of force feed back and physics like Asseto Corsa, Rfactor, iRacing etc where a sim rig is pretty much obligatory.
Brilliant, for my Computer Science A level coursework I'm creating an arcade style racer, and this video was not only informative but relatively quick too - which really helped me with the introduction part of project analysis! Keep up the great work, cheers!
Awesome! I'm glued to your content every video. Keep it up, mate!
Thank you so much for making this video. It has helped me tremendously, with my project.
Outrun 2006: Coast to Coast! I remember playing this game on the PSP and it played pretty well on 30 FPS! Sumo Digital completely nailed the game so much that they even developed Kart Racers of the Sega Allstar Racing series that plays more like an arcade racer than kart.
But their biggest attempt was is definitely Hot Shot Racing! My goodness, one of the best racing games I have ever played. Maybe it isn't the best, but it's definitely up there as one of my favorites!
I really miss arcade racers and I hope for a comeback. NFS and The Crew 2 were pretty neat, but I really couldn't get into Wreckfest nor Forza Horizon 4. People say these games are arcade, but I think of them they're simcade with a bit of sim,
Isn't it 60fps.
Real nice analysis! A question though, you split racers into Arcade and Sim, where do you put karting games (and others with battling elements, like Re-Volt, Twisted Metal, etc) ?
I also think that for way too long, "arcade" has been slapped on some racing games to justify poor physics.
A good example of greats efforts while keeping far from "simulation" would be Burnout. I can't remember which one, and I'd like to find the source again, but I read at some point that they made the steering actually change lane (like turn left and then turn right, all while making the camera keep the original aim) rather than simply turn. And no one ever noticed, people just found the cars handling well.
Fortunately, there are a lot of ways to emulate different versions of Outrun 2 be it arcade, ps2, pc (abandonware), psp and xbox players can play it with retrocompatibility so nearly everyone can enjoy Outrun 2 and also Daytona USA
0:53 Rally games == sim? What about Sega Rally?
2:45 - Well, yes... and no. You can do that, but then you're left with an empty world, you can still feel during racing. You might get away with that with sim-racers, but with arcade racers, people generally expect more from the environment they're driving in. Especially if that environment is part of the gameplay.
When I started testing the waters with my game development of a racing game, I also thought it was just plumping down some cars on a track, which could be filled with some simple assets. But in this day and age, that just doesn't look exciting. For arcade racers, the environment needs to be alive. And that takes time and effort aswell. And the flow of the track needs to fun and exciting too. Also to make sure different types of cars can run through those tracks while still keeping things fun, but challenging aswell.
It's just as with fighing games. Sure it looks easy: create a backdrop, plump in 2 or more fighters and you've got yourself a fighting game. But what isn't seen, is all the balancing that runs behind it, Where fighting games have (fluid) animations to worry about, car-games, even arcade, have physics to worry about. This last point is a real struggle aswell.
- Like you said further in your video aswell. So maybe it was just as an intro that you said that?
In regards to any outrun game soundtrack: if it’s not magical sound shower YER DOIN IT WRONG
Would you please make a kart racer analysis
Best OST in a racing game: Ridge Racer Type 4.
So this video doesn't seem to be promoted much by TH-cam's massive algorithm? Any idea why?
Not a clue. It's confused me, too. I thought it was one of my better ones, to be honest. Goes in depth over a number of games, seems to look alright. It's just the almighty algorithm being its usual obscure self.
@@LTGD yeah, it's a shame. I'll be scanning your channel some more not relying on those pesky notifications as much. Thanks for the content man!
Imagine taking a simracing setup back in time..
Have you made any arcade racers yourself?
Have you played Sega Rally on the Saturn? Because in terms of arcade racing perfection, it's up there
dont tell anyone i said this but because outrun 2006 is abandonware there are abandonware websites that you can acquire it from
Cool video
thanks!
this really isn't 'game design'. its just stuff that exists in racing games, which also exist in nearly every other genre unrelated to racing. talk about track design, sense of speed, and designing a 'hook' for your racer... instead of 'your racing game needs good presentation and variety'. cmon dude
Race Driver GRID does all of that masterfully imo
Nah, best car game soundtrack is 100% forza motorsport 6
Ridge Racer R4 gets my vote!
Burnout Revenge, and changing my mind will be the last thing y'all gonna do
Wangan midnight maximum tune imo
@@adlibbed2138 Burnout 3: Takedown
@@leogolive R4 takes the win
lol another casual player talks about GT as for simulator 😆Dude, have you ever played simulators?
I get what you're saying, but these videos are for general audiences and GT's a lot "more" sim than Need for Speed, isn't it?
Yes (not counting NFS Shift) but Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport is pretty much Simcade games (mix between arcade and simulator) both of these games has been design to be played on a gamepad targeted to casual players since they on home consoles. Sure they got support on a wheel but not so in depth in terms of force feed back and physics like Asseto Corsa, Rfactor, iRacing etc where a sim rig is pretty much obligatory.