Great video. A few things: 11.5 is carbine gas length and 14.5/16 are intermediate length (between mid length and rifle at 13"). The dimpled castle nut is not secured with locktite. The LMT buffer tube and KAC castle nut are class 3 threads meaning it is very fine and tight tolerance allowing for the required torque and will not unthread itself. If you ever wanted to remove it, the "special" tool to remove it is actually a Brownells castle nut wrench that has the pin extension. KAC uses the same tool to install them from factory. However, after October 2020, KAC has gone to the conventional castle nut design, albeit with a small KAC twist (it is not as thick to accommodate the QD end plate)
nice review, thx. I have two Sr-15 11.5/14.5 i realy like them! i bought them from brownells-switzerland, they cost me 4000$ each. greetings from Switzerland!
WOW!! I thought I paid through the nose for my rifles. That is some serious coin to drop on a firearm. I'm jealous as I'm sure you can get an HK 416 for under $2500 in Switzerland, and I can't even find an upper for under $4000. I was born in Germany, so howdy former neighbor!
lucky you, in Italy SR15 is a dream !! Brownells Italia does not import them. Italy is really a useless country when it comes to weapons, nothing comes from the USA!
Just found your channel. "Buy Once. Cry once." It's a great motto! I've been living by that train of thought my whole life when it comes to most things. Especially tools. I don't get people that think they're saving money by buying a piece of shit that performs poorly and breaks a dozen times instead of buying the more expensive but higher quality and more reliable option just once. And when it comes to something that might save your life one day, like a firearm, it REALLY makes no sense to buy a cheap piece of shit or anything less than the best.
Welcome to the channel. I hear you on wasted money. When I was a technician working on cars I'd evaluate my tool purchases on how many times I'd use it and how much time it saves me while using it. If it was worth it's salt in those 2 areas, I'd buy the best available. I think that same way when it comes to firearms as defensive tools. To me an SR15 and HK USP fit the buy once cry once theme for reliable tools.
Great video, thank you. I have 2 SR 15’s and a 25 ACC, 16” arriving in a few days. Knights are narrowly my favorite.I really like my LMT MARS Sniper rifle and my Wilson Combat. All your recommendations are excellent and my upgrades also. LMT stocks, Raptors, Geissele and Scalar Works. I have always maintained I would much rather have very few things in life of excellent quality, than an abundance of things that are mediocre or less. The same with training. I also live in AZ. Thank you again for your articulate and detailed review.
The bolt carrier and barrel are the most important. So best quality uppers are more important. Lowers less important, as you can change the trigger. Even though AR’s are modular, My first choice is to go with the same quality manufacturer for upper and lower. Sometimes with uppers and lowers by different manufacturers there will be more wobble and not such a tight fit.
Something of note though, the KAC barrels are actually COLD hammer forged which will last much longer than a regular hammer forged barrel. The Knight's barrels are superb.
Almost every barrel is chf these days and they don’t actually make the barrel last longer. They reduce the wear from heat. However you’ll never reach the temperatures where the chf process would make a difference with a semi-automatic firearm. Furthermore, you get much less cost effectiveness even if you do have full auto. For this reason the military doesn’t even use chf barrels except for extraordinary circumstances, such as the guns on fighter planes that require a barrel change every time they’re used, they’re able to get a few more rounds through them before they’re smoked by investing in chf.
Jon Campo, “almost every barrel is CHF these days”? That’s not even remotely true, neither is anything else you stated. Most AR barrels in circulation are nitrated 4140 or 4150 or just plain stainless. CHF is difficult and the machines are extremely expensive, which is why only a couple of companies in the US have them.
Where are you getting this information? Everything I can find says the opposite, that hot hammer forging reduces stress(that makes sense) and produces stronger material, but is even more prohibitive cost wise than cold forging
Dang, I have been looking for a SR15 for over a year now. I sold my SR 25 ACC and was wanting to replace it with the SR15. I just paid gun broker price for a FDE SR15 E3 Mod 2. lol good lord. That counted as my one cry.
Thanks for the quality content and detailed, accurate review. Critics of the price are often the same guys who buy a mid-tier rifle for $1200-$1600 then spend the next couple of years upgrading it with a better muzzle device, better charging handle, better trigger, a nice set of BUIS, enhanced bolt, etc etc. By the time they’re done, they’ve removed about $500 worth of parts and added $1,000 more but in their minds they still think they paid only $1400 for that rifle. With the SR15, you pay more upfront, but you get the best of everything right out of the box and don’t have to upgrade anything. AND they hold their value in the market like no other AR does. It really is a no-brainer once you get over that upfront investment.
One of the most precise and valuable review I ever watched on TH-cam (and I have seen quite a few …). Congratulations for your excellent work and greetings from France where I bought my SR-15’s 4000€ each (so double cry here 🤣). Now I am in the quest of finding the suppressors (almost impossible mission) and I hope they will fit the 3-prongs !!! Last thing, I have a 16 and a 11.5 just like you but will change the 16 for a 14.5 when they restock, I don’t see the benefits of the 16 over the 14.5 with new ammo now optimized for shorter barrels (only 70fps between the two with good GGG 77gr ammo). All the best to you man !
Great video, you really covered the whole topic, I would love to see the update after two years of use, if anything has changed and if it was still without malfunction.
Still no failures on the 16", I'm at 14K+ rounds and no cleaning, only lube. The 11.5" had 2 failures to extract on IWI M855, but that seemed to be ammo related, and not the gun. Still my go to workhorse rifles.
Have an order on a KAC SR 30 DSR URX4 MLOK (Suppressed) And the wait begins. Considering an SR 15 11.5" 556/223 Pistol with brace or an SR 30 300 BlackOut Pistol with brace? While waiting on a Knight SR 25 6.5 Upper. Patience... Excellent review and perspective. Stay safe, Cheers
Love the content, this vid showed up in my recommended and now I'm subscribed. If I didn't already have a DD MK18 I'd probably get the 11.5" SR15 based on your review.
Good video. I have a sr-15 e3 mod 1 with the urx 3.1 because it is "sexy" in flannel daddy terms. I sold two mid range AR's to afford it and honestly good luck finding a e3 mod 1 but it was a one time investment for a rifle that will never quit. I prefer it over my triarc 13.9" and even my buddies 416.
I have an sr -15 16 inch version and was wanting to buy the qdc can . But I’m worried now that it won’t fit properly over my 3 prong flash hider as you mentioned with yours .
Bring it with you to the store and check before you buy it. Also it's an easy change out if it doesn't fit for a MAMS or a replacement 3 prong. I wouldn't worry too much.
@@DeFenderCo MAC's feature on it was almost primarily on its decibel rating. I've learned there's so many more factors! I would appreciate an in depth review from you on a Knight's suppressor because I can't say I've found one yet. Your reviews are in depth and enjoyable to watch.
@@YippeeKiYayMrFalcon I'd be happy to write up a more comprehensive review on it; problem is I don't own things that I think might make the video more in depth; like a decibel meter, or a ballistic chronograph to show the true numbers.
@@DeFenderCo Would be nice to hear your take on the KAC supressor. No decibel meter or chronograph required...those are lame and little meaning. Take mac's lame supressor reviews as an example. I'm conviced that "chasing decibels" is not how you're supposed to judge silencers anyway. One thing you could do without any other equipment is a "signature reduction" demo by shooting in the dark. That'd be much more interesting since you can't subsonic .556 anyway.
I am curious to see the 14.5 cause Garand thumb said that in terms of function it is completely different than a 16 but the gas system and bolt are the same just the gas port size, recoil, and the system of the rifle itself is different
If I had the option to do it over, I'd have a 14.5 and the CQB 11.5 and not invest in the 16" version. I think the 14.5 is the best all around length for the SR15.
@@DeFenderCo thanks for the advice and I do have to agree that the Sr-15 is more suitable in a 14.5 not a 16, but why is it an NFA listed rifle when 14.5 is a rifle length not an SBR I found that weird I guess it’s Florida state law
Will a standard BCG work with the SR15 barrel or would the extension need replaced? Just trying to think how how difficult it would be to find spare E3 bolts in any long(ish) emergency situation. Great video!
11'000 rounds ,sounds like time for gas rings. Are your ejection patterns changing? like to see some pictures of your bolt, inner upper and chamber after all those rounds. Interesting experiment.
I wanted to thank you for watching my content. I'll say this, when I saw the 11.5 on the racks locally I had no second thoughts about buying it right then. They are so rarely in stock anywhere that I knew I'd regret not buying it. Hope you find one soon.
Great video! What buffer spring are you using in the CQB rifle(suppressed)? My shell deflector is yet to get a scratch on it. LOL. Seem to be getting 1:00 to 1:30 ejection.
How did you get the handguard to end up having no gap with the silencer on the 16 inch? I have a 14.5 and there is a bit of length between the handguard and silencer. Seems like both 16 and 14.5 are the same!
Thanks for the review. Definite thumbs up, even enjoyed your use of a plaid shirt ala Garand Thumb lol. I've been dying to get a hold of a SR-14 11.5" myself, but they are practically non-existent in terms of availability it seems.
Thank you for taking the time to watch it. It's frustrating to try and find anything in stock (ammo, parts, rifles) in this current climate, but even more so when you know what you want and have the cash to get it. KAC stuff is always out of stock.
Knights is sweet because stoner worked there and Reed Knight has the Institute of Military Technology. That’s all you need to know. It makes the SR15 worth it. In the end though, they all shoot the same bullets. The variance is minimal in AR15s. That’s kind of the point… standardization and modular construction. So if you buy a KAC gun, do it for the right reasons… that reason is the GENIUS of Eugene Stoner
You seem to be missing the fact that the sr15 has a proprietary gas system, bolt, and barrel extension. More than just “minimal variance” compared to any other AR15
@@alexjr4468 I’m very aware that the KAC Stoner Rifle includes proprietary hardware like rounded lugs and altered extractor design with proprietary springs and other tweaks etc and that it’s superior in some performance aspects but also has the drawbacks of proprietary hardware as well versus standardized interchangeable parts. That said, these are simply enhancements, modifications and evolutions to the existing military spec AR platform with the same general operation. It’s still got a buffer tube, is DI with the same bcg action and still fires 5.56 NATO at the same twist rate and velocities. As stated, the variance is in fact minimal compared to a standard mil spec AR. A Sig MCX for example has an entirely different upper design with a different bolt carrier and short stroke piston gas system. A far greater departure from the operation of a mil spec AR15 than an SR15, but an MCX can still be used on an AR15 lower with an adapter in place of the buffer tube. And that’s just one example of the wide variety of alternative uppers that work on AR lowers like the BRN180, PSA Jakl and many even stranger uppers like the panzer AR57 upper or bullpups like the Reap SCY. Then you have the AR style lowers that take glock 9mm mags or ones that take AK mags and are chambered in different and even exotic calibers etc. in the end, an SR is a traditional AR design that shoots 5.56 with some minor enhancements to the existing system depending on which KAC SR model or parts you opt to install.
Great informative video. Ill admit I have no idea what half the abbreviated terms meant. Lol. They sound expensive though. I love your explanation of the shorter model cqb version. Very smart to think of the why you would use that and what it works for. You are spot on with the gas mask. Mira (i think) makes one that does allow for use with a scoped rifle. Hope to get that by the winter.
The amount of abbreviations and letters in this hobby rivals the military and airline industry. I didn't know half of them either before doing research for this video. I'm glad you learned something and I appreciate you watching the channel.
The only problem I have with the proprietary parts and requires an armory to support it if anything breaks. If Shtf, you likely will be dropping this rifle eventually and picking up something with readily available parts you can fix yourself. This rifle is meant to have support
I'm just approaching the 13K round mark on my 16" SR15 and not a single stoppage. Not even a bad casing or primer. Granted I do not run garbage ammo in this nor steel. No stoppages of any kind and I still haven't cleaned it, only lubed it. I'd take this into war and back without a worry as I can absolutely keep this thing running when it finally has a stoppage. It's not so exotic that a regular bolt won't work in a pinch, and I could repurpose other items to work should it come to that. I'm a former tech by profession and keeping a rifle running is not rocket science.
@@DeFenderCo these aren’t as easy to upkeep if something goes wrong. I’m an engineer, there are multiple fail points. The thing I like that they did was update the BCG and bolt design. It’s pretty genius. The rail is the closest thing to bomb proof you can get for a thin mlok rail. With that said, it’s a delicate balance when thinking ahead. Anything can happen in a battle. You likely couldn’t fix major issues easily in the field with your own tools. It’s so over engineered to be bombproof, it’s harder to diagnose or if something fails, it’s hard to get to and fix. The easiest thing to have is the basic replacement lower parts like the BCG. But they are finicky, definitely deigned to take good ammo which isn’t always something you will have at your disposal. Knights didn’t design this to be easy to come apart and easy to find replacement parts of something fails. They have dedicated armorers for this rifle alone. People who specialize in just their proprietary parts. One way or another, something will fail, you just need to make sure you have enough replacements to make sure you can keep it running when something goes wrong
Do you have a similar objective review of the Heckler & Koch MR556 and what is your comparative review if the measurable goal is mid range/ 200yds to long range 450-500 yards of both weapon platform capabilities?
I just purchased a legit HK416 SBR and I'll be doing a Buy Once. Cry Once. video on it once I have more time behind it. Thanks for watching my homemade content.
How is the gas to the face on the two different rifles while suppressed? Can you comment on how the QDC sounds versus other suppressors, in your objective opinion, not just what test results say?
Gas to the face is minimal on both rifles, and surprisingly, the CQB has less gas than the 16 inch does. The Radian SD charging handles helped alleviate the last bits from reaching my eyes. As far as the suppressor goes, the tone is wonderful. It's probably my favorite sounding can that I've shot. Other I have shot was a surefire, and an NT4. I like the QDC more than any others I've been around and I'm looking for the CQB QDC version now as well.
Kac's are cool rifles no doubt. I apriciate they are pushing for inovation on the AR-15 platform. They are just not for me though. I'd rather build a high end rifle, or not spend more then 1500 on a BCM. If I had more spending money then maybe.
AR’s are tools used to send projectiles down range. You can but your tool at Harbor Freight, Lowe’s or off the Mac Tools Truck. In each case you can buy a 9/16 wrench to twist a nut. Do you want to twist that nut with one wrench for 10.00 or for 34.00. I myself will purchase a quality middle of the road rifle, do the quality upgrades and purchase 5000 rounds of ammo with the other 2000 I saved on not going to the Mac Tools truck.
It's what I have on hand. Cameras are expensive and I like guns more than I like 1080p. Eventually I'll upgrade to a better camera and lens, but for now I have to work with the equipment I have available to me. I do appreciate you watching my content.
@@alandonglei I actually spent about 3 hours this weekend learning more about my camera; you were right, I wasn't recording it in 1080p. I will have higher quality video going forward though.
Unfortunately I had the same experience in terms of their customer service experience...or lack thereof. I did enjoy direct factory purchase as a retired LEO (and dealer pricing). My sales guy was great on the initial call but follow up from that point was terrible. I was told 8-10 weeks, 8 months later it arrived. Hey, no complaints as I understand the size of the company, the size of their contracts, little ole me vs. US special forces and their needs etc. do feel it's a privilege to be able to purchase direct. PS please clean that rifle 😫
@@DeFenderCo PS at the range yesterday, 1st outing with the KAC. Full transparency, she is bone stock with only the iron sights. I just wanted to test it in terms of a general feel against my others as this is "the finest AR in the land". It shoots similar to my 1993 Colt AR-15 (Sporter). I then grabbed my BCM recce 16, then my hand-built Aero Precision/Advanced ballistics build. BCM is still my favorite. I'll do the same drill once I have some goodies on her. The KAC came in 3rd
Imagine kac charging more for lesser kit (charging handle). I would argue that the entire rifle is reflective of that. Glad you like them so much because I'd be astonished if you could get half of what you paid when the day comes you wish you could sell it. Cheers!
If the current market is any indicator I made a good investment. With the shelves bare people are listing (and selling) these guns at a near 150% markup. I'm glad I got mine when I did.
The LMT sopmod has a smoother finish and is a deeper darker black finish. The qd socket is painted black on the B5 and the LMT has a metalic finish. If you put the two next to eachother the LMT looks sleeker because of these differences.
I do only because I've seen videos where gunsmiths show sheared bolt lugs on a colt, broken extractor springs, and bolts broken in half at the cam pin. These weak points were addressed by Eugene Stoner himself to make the gun more reliable.
@@DeFenderCo I have a CQB (haven’t gone to the range with it yet). I have had a BCM bcg bust up in the chamber so I’m a bit skiddish on bcgs. I ASSUME the KAC bcg is as advertised but don’t have any way to know for sure. Anyway, excellent and thorough video. Thanks!
While I do not dispute the quality of Knights products, I do question the price-value to quality ratio. There is far more that goes into marketing and pricing of products than just the product itself. You’re paying for R&D, marketing, overhead, employees, company insurance and so on. Other than its ambi features, Daniel Defense and BCM will do you fine. And, if your hung up with military contracts, DD & BCM have several contracts as well. And, they have proven reliability in theater, so there you go. I’m not affiliated with either company nor have either company’s rifles. I’m just pointing out that with any higher end rifle, your paying for more than just the rifle itself. If that was the case, these rifles would cost much less.
That money I'm paying for a company's R&D is worth it to me. If they had so much R&D and testing that my rifle is now $3K, it says a lot about a company who claims to have a similar level of product but much less in R&D. DD and BCM are fine rifles, but they are not ground breaking or leading the charge in rifle advancement like Knight's has. Knight's has decades of R&D under their belt and they are proven in environments that no BCM and DD has held up to. You don't see a ton of DD outside the MK 18 and the rail is really just a re-made Knight's RIS. HK 416 and KAC SR16 rifles are far more proven, tested, and used by those that know and I'm fine with having the price difference because the durability and quality is there.
@@magoo5.0johnson45 No, but they did employ the AR-15's creator and he improved upon his own design and created the SR15; so I'd say they improved the wheel.
Have been on the fence between a Geisselle upper or a SR15 upper, G has allegedly better gassing and you can self service, but knights is so bomb-proof. ill probably hold off and just get the KAC after watching this.
I just picked up a Geissele Urgi and it’s definitely a smooth shooter, I’ve been wanting to get a KAC upper too but haven’t found them in stock anywhere. Good luck with your search.
Damn, terrible to hear that if you drop $4K+ for a tier 1, war rated completely proprietary weapon system and have 1 single issue, you can’t even get a response from CS to be able to explain your issue. I’m really really surprised by that, makes me wonder if LMT is the same way??? Stunning set of rifles, and equally elaborate explanation of each individual component. Wish I would have learned quality over quantity about 2 decades ago
Yeah, it sucks. Still kinda vocal about that aspect of my KAC ownership experience. But I'm equally vocal about how brutal I am on my 16" rifle and how flawless it has held up. I think I'll do a video about what it looks like at 15K rounds and give it a through cleaning to show the durability of it. I'm super grateful you're watching and enjoying my content.
You wouldn't recommend someone buying the best tool they can for the job? Respectfully, that's terrible advice. In the end you'll spend more getting to the starting point of an SR15 if you start out with an entry level rifle.
@@DeFenderCo I know, it's insane. I've had an upper and a complete lower on backorder for over a year. But this weekend I found one in a GS in Pompano Beach, FL.
Hervorragendes Video! Hervorragende Waffen! Did you move to the US or where are your parents American? My dream is to immigrate. Also glad you utilize the bcm foregrip AK style
Every average person is capable of sub moa groups with proper mechanics, good setup and actively trying to do so Nice review that CS issue is a major stain
All the research I looked through seemed that your information is correct for overall industry terms. Knight's seems to have their own version of what they call each length which was confusing and muddied the waters. I appreciate you passing your info along to me. I'm always craving more knowledge.
To me KAC is worth every penny spent and a be all end all rifle…… you can beat the shit out of these rifles and they just keep going. They use the finest materials and have fixed issues with the longitivtiy of the ar15/m16 platform. If you haven’t ever shot one then do it now!
Not a fan of KAC only of their E3 bolt design and nice lower w ambi bolt stop and release. I prefer my true monolithic mega upper or aero monolithic upper (discontinued C.O.P.) with LMT Aermet 100 enhanced bolt. I would do 7075 wedgelock handguard with anti-rotation pin ❤ or M4E1 upper & HG (not the regular upper with m4e1 barrel nut) due to 4 screws serving as a true anti-rotation measure. KAC URX rely on the friction of barrel nut to not rotate then stopped from spinning off only by gas tube, that's plain stupid. For civilians, KAC is grossly overpriced when you find out how much our government paid for them. Even if money was not in question I would buy LMT MRP over KAC all day long.
Its funny I always hear “sub moa” as a standard? I have built my own for diff reasons but a sub moa group for me sucks…. Im shooting one ragged hole like .2 to .3 on command, but damn if I shot a inch or lil less Id be devastated….
Great rifles KAC makes top notch products. Are they worth the price vs the value in a normal market? Absolutely Not. The absolute vest bang for your buck, and best overall has been til this day..... LMT. When it comes to AR's they are the best of th best, followed very very closely by KAC. I now have 3 lmt mk18's have 2 DD mk18's, and 1 lmt mrp. Lmt stripped upper for 674.05 after tax and shipping with my discount.
Great video. A few things:
11.5 is carbine gas length and 14.5/16 are intermediate length (between mid length and rifle at 13").
The dimpled castle nut is not secured with locktite. The LMT buffer tube and KAC castle nut are class 3 threads meaning it is very fine and tight tolerance allowing for the required torque and will not unthread itself. If you ever wanted to remove it, the "special" tool to remove it is actually a Brownells castle nut wrench that has the pin extension. KAC uses the same tool to install them from factory. However, after October 2020, KAC has gone to the conventional castle nut design, albeit with a small KAC twist (it is not as thick to accommodate the QD end plate)
I was going to mention that fact about the gas systems.
nice review, thx.
I have two Sr-15 11.5/14.5 i realy like them! i bought them from brownells-switzerland, they cost me 4000$ each.
greetings from Switzerland!
WOW!! I thought I paid through the nose for my rifles. That is some serious coin to drop on a firearm. I'm jealous as I'm sure you can get an HK 416 for under $2500 in Switzerland, and I can't even find an upper for under $4000. I was born in Germany, so howdy former neighbor!
lucky you, in Italy SR15 is a dream !! Brownells Italia does not import them. Italy is really a useless country when it comes to weapons, nothing comes from the USA!
Bro awesome video your legit. Your knowledge on Knights is off the charts enjoyed your video. I now know way more about my 16” Knights SR15.
So glad you took something away from it. Thanks for watching my video.
2:30 “that’s a nice kac you have there”
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Just found your channel. "Buy Once. Cry once." It's a great motto!
I've been living by that train of thought my whole life when it comes to most things. Especially tools. I don't get people that think they're saving money by buying a piece of shit that performs poorly and breaks a dozen times instead of buying the more expensive but higher quality and more reliable option just once. And when it comes to something that might save your life one day, like a firearm, it REALLY makes no sense to buy a cheap piece of shit or anything less than the best.
Welcome to the channel. I hear you on wasted money. When I was a technician working on cars I'd evaluate my tool purchases on how many times I'd use it and how much time it saves me while using it. If it was worth it's salt in those 2 areas, I'd buy the best available. I think that same way when it comes to firearms as defensive tools. To me an SR15 and HK USP fit the buy once cry once theme for reliable tools.
@@DeFenderCo ahh yes I know all too well about knights and snap on products lol.
Great video, thank you. I have 2 SR 15’s and a 25 ACC, 16” arriving in a few days. Knights are narrowly my favorite.I really like my LMT MARS Sniper rifle and my Wilson Combat. All your recommendations are excellent and my upgrades also. LMT stocks, Raptors, Geissele and Scalar Works. I have always maintained I would much rather have very few things in life of excellent quality, than an abundance of things that are mediocre or less. The same with training. I also live in AZ.
Thank you again for your articulate and detailed review.
I'm new to this. I have a bottom AR receiver. Would it be better if I buy the top knights receiver? Or buy the complete gun?
The bolt carrier and barrel are the most important. So best quality uppers are more important. Lowers less important, as you can change the trigger. Even though AR’s are modular, My first choice is to go with the same quality manufacturer for upper and lower. Sometimes with uppers and lowers by different manufacturers there will be more wobble and not such a tight fit.
@@glynnellis6519 thank you. I was planning to get a BCM bottom receiver with a dd upper reciver. But ill just get the complete dd ar
@@josephpa05
Great, BCM and Daniel Defense are top tier AR’s. Good luck…
Excellent on all aspects. Thank you for the professional presentation.
Great review man, hope to see some more KAC updates.
That....is a precision review.....BRAVO!
You have an SR15 you'd be interested in letting go?
Great review on a great rifle with an amazing pedigree
I truly appreciate you taking the time to watch it and provide feedback.
I have watched this video 7 times. Great reviews sir and beautiful weapon systems.
@@jonathannoebel6457 That's more times than I watched it while creating and editing it! Dedication!
Thanks sir. KNIGHTS armaments rifles are my Unicorns 🦄 . Just hope to be able to afford one soon.
Something of note though, the KAC barrels are actually COLD hammer forged which will last much longer than a regular hammer forged barrel. The Knight's barrels are superb.
Great info to know. I think the barrel in my rifle is one of the best features about it.
Almost every barrel is chf these days and they don’t actually make the barrel last longer. They reduce the wear from heat. However you’ll never reach the temperatures where the chf process would make a difference with a semi-automatic firearm. Furthermore, you get much less cost effectiveness even if you do have full auto. For this reason the military doesn’t even use chf barrels except for extraordinary circumstances, such as the guns on fighter planes that require a barrel change every time they’re used, they’re able to get a few more rounds through them before they’re smoked by investing in chf.
@@joncampo4610 reduces wear = last longer you silly.
Jon Campo, “almost every barrel is CHF these days”? That’s not even remotely true, neither is anything else you stated. Most AR barrels in circulation are nitrated 4140 or 4150 or just plain stainless. CHF is difficult and the machines are extremely expensive, which is why only a couple of companies in the US have them.
Where are you getting this information? Everything I can find says the opposite, that hot hammer forging reduces stress(that makes sense) and produces stronger material, but is even more prohibitive cost wise than cold forging
I enjoyed the thorough review! Good stuff.
I'm happy to know you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching my content.
You for got to mention LWRC who actually invented the 100% Ambi lower . Thank you on the REDI Catch Mag , I got some and I love it .
Damn it. I totally forgot about them. Good reminder.
Dang, I have been looking for a SR15 for over a year now. I sold my SR 25 ACC and was wanting to replace it with the SR15. I just paid gun broker price for a FDE SR15 E3 Mod 2. lol good lord. That counted as my one cry.
Very well put together video.... top notch review....beyond informing
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the quality content and detailed, accurate review.
Critics of the price are often the same guys who buy a mid-tier rifle for $1200-$1600 then spend the next couple of years upgrading it with a better muzzle device, better charging handle, better trigger, a nice set of BUIS, enhanced bolt, etc etc.
By the time they’re done, they’ve removed about $500 worth of parts and added $1,000 more but in their minds they still think they paid only $1400 for that rifle.
With the SR15, you pay more upfront, but you get the best of everything right out of the box and don’t have to upgrade anything. AND they hold their value in the market like no other AR does. It really is a no-brainer once you get over that upfront investment.
One of the most precise and valuable review I ever watched on TH-cam (and I have seen quite a few …). Congratulations for your excellent work and greetings from France where I bought my SR-15’s 4000€ each (so double cry here 🤣). Now I am in the quest of finding the suppressors (almost impossible mission) and I hope they will fit the 3-prongs !!! Last thing, I have a 16 and a 11.5 just like you but will change the 16 for a 14.5 when they restock, I don’t see the benefits of the 16 over the 14.5 with new ammo now optimized for shorter barrels (only 70fps between the two with good GGG 77gr ammo). All the best to you man !
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you found my content helpful.
Great video, you really covered the whole topic, I would love to see the update after two years of use, if anything has changed and if it was still without malfunction.
Still no failures on the 16", I'm at 14K+ rounds and no cleaning, only lube. The 11.5" had 2 failures to extract on IWI M855, but that seemed to be ammo related, and not the gun. Still my go to workhorse rifles.
@@DeFenderCo Well then it's worth spending the money on, thanks and have a good one.
Thank you very much for a very detailed review !
Have an order on a KAC SR 30 DSR URX4 MLOK (Suppressed) And the wait begins. Considering an SR 15 11.5" 556/223 Pistol with brace or an SR 30 300 BlackOut Pistol with brace? While waiting on a Knight SR 25 6.5 Upper. Patience... Excellent review and perspective. Stay safe, Cheers
Tough choice kinda want to get a knights but would have to sell my scar 16s the fn is built like a tank never had a problem with it good review!
Love the content, this vid showed up in my recommended and now I'm subscribed. If I didn't already have a DD MK18 I'd probably get the 11.5" SR15 based on your review.
A Daniel Defense MK18 is a SWEET rifle though, so you didn't miss out on a good purchase. Thanks for the subscription.
Good video. I have a sr-15 e3 mod 1 with the urx 3.1 because it is "sexy" in flannel daddy terms. I sold two mid range AR's to afford it and honestly good luck finding a e3 mod 1 but it was a one time investment for a rifle that will never quit. I prefer it over my triarc 13.9" and even my buddies 416.
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Awesome review!
Tom green doing some great hands on reviews with big and small KAC’s
Bwahahaha hell nah I was going to say he looks like Tom Green....... even sounds slightly like him
I have an sr -15 16 inch version and was wanting to buy the qdc can . But I’m worried now that it won’t fit properly over my 3 prong flash hider as you mentioned with yours .
Bring it with you to the store and check before you buy it. Also it's an easy change out if it doesn't fit for a MAMS or a replacement 3 prong. I wouldn't worry too much.
Fantastic review, thanks!
Thanks for watching my content.
There really aren’t enough reviews of that suppressor. Or any from Knight really.
Did I provide enough detail on it, or do you need some more in depth stuff? Mac at military arms channel did a sound test on it.
@@DeFenderCo MAC's feature on it was almost primarily on its decibel rating. I've learned there's so many more factors! I would appreciate an in depth review from you on a Knight's suppressor because I can't say I've found one yet. Your reviews are in depth and enjoyable to watch.
@@YippeeKiYayMrFalcon I'd be happy to write up a more comprehensive review on it; problem is I don't own things that I think might make the video more in depth; like a decibel meter, or a ballistic chronograph to show the true numbers.
@@DeFenderCo Would be nice to hear your take on the KAC supressor. No decibel meter or chronograph required...those are lame and little meaning. Take mac's lame supressor reviews as an example. I'm conviced that "chasing decibels" is not how you're supposed to judge silencers anyway. One thing you could do without any other equipment is a "signature reduction" demo by shooting in the dark. That'd be much more interesting since you can't subsonic .556 anyway.
@@alexandre0319 Good suggestions. Some of the gentlemen in my local shooting group just got their can's from Surefire, so maybe a side by side?
I am curious to see the 14.5 cause Garand thumb said that in terms of function it is completely different than a 16 but the gas system and bolt are the same just the gas port size, recoil, and the system of the rifle itself is different
If I had the option to do it over, I'd have a 14.5 and the CQB 11.5 and not invest in the 16" version. I think the 14.5 is the best all around length for the SR15.
@@DeFenderCo thanks for the advice and I do have to agree that the Sr-15 is more suitable in a 14.5 not a 16, but why is it an NFA listed rifle when 14.5 is a rifle length not an SBR I found that weird I guess it’s Florida state law
@@Chris09978 It's a federal law; thank the NFA act and the ATF for that one.
Awesome setups bro thanks for the video very enjoyable
Happy to hear you enjoyed it.
Very good taste sir. Love my SR15 with LMT SOPMOD stock as well!
I am a gun nerd and I appreciate in-depth explanations or background on firearms. Thanks for the insight.
Glad you enjoyed it!
KAC rear sights are easy to use, a quick cheap easy fix for the glair is to use a candle and blacken your sights front and back.
I mean, that is a clever way of fixing the issue, but the issue remains. The irons would be perfect if the peep was flat and not scalloped.
Will a standard BCG work with the SR15 barrel or would the extension need replaced? Just trying to think how how difficult it would be to find spare E3 bolts in any long(ish) emergency situation. Great video!
To my understanding, a standard bolt will work in a pinch but it is not a long term solution.
11'000 rounds ,sounds like time for gas rings. Are your ejection patterns changing? like to see some pictures of your bolt, inner upper and chamber after all those rounds. Interesting experiment.
Great video. Looking forward to more. Thank you !
Shooting my next one as I type this out. Thanks for watching my content.
Like your methodical review process...great rifles....trying to find one for a while now....thank you
I wanted to thank you for watching my content. I'll say this, when I saw the 11.5 on the racks locally I had no second thoughts about buying it right then. They are so rarely in stock anywhere that I knew I'd regret not buying it. Hope you find one soon.
Great video! What buffer spring are you using in the CQB rifle(suppressed)? My shell deflector is yet to get a scratch on it. LOL. Seem to be getting 1:00 to 1:30 ejection.
It's the factory HH buffer and spring.
What a solid review. You actually know what you're talking about. Have a like and follow.
I appreciate you watching my home made content. I did lots of research before filming!
How did you get the handguard to end up having no gap with the silencer on the 16 inch? I have a 14.5 and there is a bit of length between the handguard and silencer. Seems like both 16 and 14.5 are the same!
I shortened the barrel and pin/welded the MAMS. I hated the 1.5" of barrel sticking out of the handguard so I fixed it.
@@DeFenderCo did you have any changes with reliability? Did the ejection pattern change at all?? I’ve been wanting to do the same but I’m hesitant..
@@StefanSu91 None. Nothing changed at all other than length.
@@DeFenderCo Awesome. Thanks a lot for the info!
@@StefanSu91 Absolutely. I had Wright Armory in Mesa, AZ in the US do the work and it was flawless with a great price and fast turn around.
I’m an AZ guy too, also have a 14.5 KAC. Would love to train sometime!
We have a group going here locally. Reach out to me via t56kit@gmail.com
I currently have a 13.9 Triarc that's P/W'd with a surefire brake. I don't go out to the range frequently but I want a 16" KAC. What would you do?
Thanks for the review. Definite thumbs up, even enjoyed your use of a plaid shirt ala Garand Thumb lol. I've been dying to get a hold of a SR-14 11.5" myself, but they are practically non-existent in terms of availability it seems.
Thank you for taking the time to watch it. It's frustrating to try and find anything in stock (ammo, parts, rifles) in this current climate, but even more so when you know what you want and have the cash to get it. KAC stuff is always out of stock.
Knights is sweet because stoner worked there and Reed Knight has the Institute of Military Technology. That’s all you need to know. It makes the SR15 worth it. In the end though, they all shoot the same bullets. The variance is minimal in AR15s. That’s kind of the point… standardization and modular construction. So if you buy a KAC gun, do it for the right reasons… that reason is the GENIUS of Eugene Stoner
You seem to be missing the fact that the sr15 has a proprietary gas system, bolt, and barrel extension. More than just “minimal variance” compared to any other AR15
@@alexjr4468 I’m very aware that the KAC Stoner Rifle includes proprietary hardware like rounded lugs and altered extractor design with proprietary springs and other tweaks etc and that it’s superior in some performance aspects but also has the drawbacks of proprietary hardware as well versus standardized interchangeable parts. That said, these are simply enhancements, modifications and evolutions to the existing military spec AR platform with the same general operation. It’s still got a buffer tube, is DI with the same bcg action and still fires 5.56 NATO at the same twist rate and velocities. As stated, the variance is in fact minimal compared to a standard mil spec AR. A Sig MCX for example has an entirely different upper design with a different bolt carrier and short stroke piston gas system. A far greater departure from the operation of a mil spec AR15 than an SR15, but an MCX can still be used on an AR15 lower with an adapter in place of the buffer tube. And that’s just one example of the wide variety of alternative uppers that work on AR lowers like the BRN180, PSA Jakl and many even stranger uppers like the panzer AR57 upper or bullpups like the Reap SCY. Then you have the AR style lowers that take glock 9mm mags or ones that take AK mags and are chambered in different and even exotic calibers etc. in the end, an SR is a traditional AR design that shoots 5.56 with some minor enhancements to the existing system depending on which KAC SR model or parts you opt to install.
You sir have excellent taste in weapons!
You sir have excellent taste in content creators.
This guy is the complete flip of Garand Thumb.......
In that I'm not a great shooter, and I'm not in the military? :-)
Both my SR15s had issues and were junk never had a problem with LMT.
I like the format. Nice.
I only snagged a KAC upper, I wasn't willing to pay more for theirs and still have to replace the parts I wanted.
Question I sonic clean my rifles would I be able to do that with this rifle efficiently?
Great informative video. Ill admit I have no idea what half the abbreviated terms meant. Lol. They sound expensive though. I love your explanation of the shorter model cqb version. Very smart to think of the why you would use that and what it works for. You are spot on with the gas mask. Mira (i think) makes one that does allow for use with a scoped rifle. Hope to get that by the winter.
The amount of abbreviations and letters in this hobby rivals the military and airline industry. I didn't know half of them either before doing research for this video. I'm glad you learned something and I appreciate you watching the channel.
The only problem I have with the proprietary parts and requires an armory to support it if anything breaks. If Shtf, you likely will be dropping this rifle eventually and picking up something with readily available parts you can fix yourself. This rifle is meant to have support
I'm just approaching the 13K round mark on my 16" SR15 and not a single stoppage. Not even a bad casing or primer. Granted I do not run garbage ammo in this nor steel. No stoppages of any kind and I still haven't cleaned it, only lubed it. I'd take this into war and back without a worry as I can absolutely keep this thing running when it finally has a stoppage. It's not so exotic that a regular bolt won't work in a pinch, and I could repurpose other items to work should it come to that. I'm a former tech by profession and keeping a rifle running is not rocket science.
@@DeFenderCo these aren’t as easy to upkeep if something goes wrong. I’m an engineer, there are multiple fail points. The thing I like that they did was update the BCG and bolt design. It’s pretty genius. The rail is the closest thing to bomb proof you can get for a thin mlok rail.
With that said, it’s a delicate balance when thinking ahead. Anything can happen in a battle. You likely couldn’t fix major issues easily in the field with your own tools. It’s so over engineered to be bombproof, it’s harder to diagnose or if something fails, it’s hard to get to and fix. The easiest thing to have is the basic replacement lower parts like the BCG. But they are finicky, definitely deigned to take good ammo which isn’t always something you will have at your disposal. Knights didn’t design this to be easy to come apart and easy to find replacement parts of something fails.
They have dedicated armorers for this rifle alone. People who specialize in just their proprietary parts. One way or another, something will fail, you just need to make sure you have enough replacements to make sure you can keep it running when something goes wrong
Enjoyed and well done
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Do you have a similar objective review of the Heckler & Koch MR556 and what is your comparative review if the measurable goal is mid range/ 200yds to long range 450-500 yards of both weapon platform capabilities?
I just purchased a legit HK416 SBR and I'll be doing a Buy Once. Cry Once. video on it once I have more time behind it. Thanks for watching my homemade content.
Nice detailed reviews. I don't have anything from KAC, but my cousin's Father In Law works for Knights.🤦♂️
That's kind of like having an 'in' right? You should get a tour!
Can he get me a rifle? I have $ lmao
i have yet to see one at tombstone tactical. but my T2 has to be at 9 or its washed out by my light
What is the cerakote package on your rifle? What colors by cerakote number?
My rifles are rattle canned.
Can anyone help me find a KAC SR15 lower with stock
How do you know the rifles are sub moa if you aren’t able to shoot sub moa?
I shoot with long range guys that have shot sub MOA groups with my rifles and their ammo.
How is the gas to the face on the two different rifles while suppressed? Can you comment on how the QDC sounds versus other suppressors, in your objective opinion, not just what test results say?
Gas to the face is minimal on both rifles, and surprisingly, the CQB has less gas than the 16 inch does. The Radian SD charging handles helped alleviate the last bits from reaching my eyes.
As far as the suppressor goes, the tone is wonderful. It's probably my favorite sounding can that I've shot. Other I have shot was a surefire, and an NT4. I like the QDC more than any others I've been around and I'm looking for the CQB QDC version now as well.
Kac's are cool rifles no doubt. I apriciate they are pushing for inovation on the AR-15 platform. They are just not for me though. I'd rather build a high end rifle, or not spend more then 1500 on a BCM. If I had more spending money then maybe.
Cost aside, how would your 16" compare to a BCM recce-14 mcmr (14.5" + comp, 16.1")?
The 16" has a softer recoil impulse, but not as maneuverable as a 14.5" is.
Thank you for the video!
Thanks for taking the time to watch it and comment.
Where is everyone getting these KAC rifles from? I cant find any in stock anywhere
The past... I got these in 2016 and 2019.
AR’s are tools used to send projectiles down range. You can but your tool at Harbor Freight, Lowe’s or off the Mac Tools Truck. In each case you can buy a 9/16 wrench to twist a nut. Do you want to twist that nut with one wrench for 10.00 or for 34.00. I myself will purchase a quality middle of the road rifle, do the quality upgrades and purchase 5000 rounds of ammo with the other 2000 I saved on not going to the Mac Tools truck.
Love the content, but why only 720p?
It's what I have on hand. Cameras are expensive and I like guns more than I like 1080p. Eventually I'll upgrade to a better camera and lens, but for now I have to work with the equipment I have available to me. I do appreciate you watching my content.
@@DeFenderCo lol, sorry i didn't want to sound like jerk, i thought you just forgot to configure it to 1080 when uploading. Guns over 1080p for sure!
@@alandonglei I actually spent about 3 hours this weekend learning more about my camera; you were right, I wasn't recording it in 1080p. I will have higher quality video going forward though.
Unfortunately I had the same experience in terms of their customer service experience...or lack thereof. I did enjoy direct factory purchase as a retired LEO (and dealer pricing). My sales guy was great on the initial call but follow up from that point was terrible. I was told 8-10 weeks, 8 months later it arrived. Hey, no complaints as I understand the size of the company, the size of their contracts, little ole me vs. US special forces and their needs etc. do feel it's a privilege to be able to purchase direct. PS please clean that rifle 😫
That is the most frustrating part; killer product, horrible service and lead times.
I'll clean it when it stops cycling, I promise.
@@DeFenderCo PS at the range yesterday, 1st outing with the KAC. Full transparency, she is bone stock with only the iron sights. I just wanted to test it in terms of a general feel against my others as this is "the finest AR in the land". It shoots similar to my 1993 Colt AR-15 (Sporter). I then grabbed my BCM recce 16, then my hand-built Aero Precision/Advanced ballistics build. BCM is still my favorite. I'll do the same drill once I have some goodies on her. The KAC came in 3rd
nice work! very informational!
I appreciate the feedback; thanks for watching my content.
Imagine kac charging more for lesser kit (charging handle). I would argue that the entire rifle is reflective of that. Glad you like them so much because I'd be astonished if you could get half of what you paid when the day comes you wish you could sell it. Cheers!
If the current market is any indicator I made a good investment. With the shelves bare people are listing (and selling) these guns at a near 150% markup. I'm glad I got mine when I did.
but can you actually manipulate the weapon correctly!?
I'm proficient.
The LMT sopmod has a smoother finish and is a deeper darker black finish. The qd socket is painted black on the B5 and the LMT has a metalic finish. If you put the two next to eachother the LMT looks sleeker because of these differences.
They’ll both be out of spec 3 grand paper weights lmfao
Do you really think the bolt is more reliable than milspec? I have my doubts but I want to believe!
I do only because I've seen videos where gunsmiths show sheared bolt lugs on a colt, broken extractor springs, and bolts broken in half at the cam pin. These weak points were addressed by Eugene Stoner himself to make the gun more reliable.
@@DeFenderCo I have a CQB (haven’t gone to the range with it yet). I have had a BCM bcg bust up in the chamber so I’m a bit skiddish on bcgs. I ASSUME the KAC bcg is as advertised but don’t have any way to know for sure. Anyway, excellent and thorough video. Thanks!
Got your gas systems backwards, 11.5 has carbine gas, 16" uses their proprietary intermediate length gas system.
55 minutes! Giving Nutnfancy a run for his money.
I guess I had a lot to say about this! Thanks for watching if you stuck with through the whole hour!
While I do not dispute the quality of Knights products, I do question the price-value to quality ratio. There is far more that goes into marketing and pricing of products than just the product itself. You’re paying for R&D, marketing, overhead, employees, company insurance and so on.
Other than its ambi features, Daniel Defense and BCM will do you fine. And, if your hung up with military contracts, DD & BCM have several contracts as well. And, they have proven reliability in theater, so there you go.
I’m not affiliated with either company nor have either company’s rifles. I’m just pointing out that with any higher end rifle, your paying for more than just the rifle itself. If that was the case, these rifles would cost much less.
That money I'm paying for a company's R&D is worth it to me. If they had so much R&D and testing that my rifle is now $3K, it says a lot about a company who claims to have a similar level of product but much less in R&D. DD and BCM are fine rifles, but they are not ground breaking or leading the charge in rifle advancement like Knight's has. Knight's has decades of R&D under their belt and they are proven in environments that no BCM and DD has held up to. You don't see a ton of DD outside the MK 18 and the rail is really just a re-made Knight's RIS. HK 416 and KAC SR16 rifles are far more proven, tested, and used by those that know and I'm fine with having the price difference because the durability and quality is there.
@@DeFenderCo KAC makes a very good rifle, But let's be frank, They haven't re-invented the wheel.
@@magoo5.0johnson45 No, but they did employ the AR-15's creator and he improved upon his own design and created the SR15; so I'd say they improved the wheel.
Have been on the fence between a Geisselle upper or a SR15 upper, G has allegedly better gassing and you can self service, but knights is so bomb-proof. ill probably hold off and just get the KAC after watching this.
I just picked up a Geissele Urgi and it’s definitely a smooth shooter, I’ve been wanting to get a KAC upper too but haven’t found them in stock anywhere. Good luck with your search.
Damn, terrible to hear that if you drop $4K+ for a tier 1, war rated completely proprietary weapon system and have 1 single issue, you can’t even get a response from CS to be able to explain your issue. I’m really really surprised by that, makes me wonder if LMT is the same way??? Stunning set of rifles, and equally elaborate explanation of each individual component. Wish I would have learned quality over quantity about 2 decades ago
Yeah, it sucks. Still kinda vocal about that aspect of my KAC ownership experience. But I'm equally vocal about how brutal I am on my 16" rifle and how flawless it has held up. I think I'll do a video about what it looks like at 15K rounds and give it a through cleaning to show the durability of it.
I'm super grateful you're watching and enjoying my content.
Not sure if this is for a first time AR buyer.
You wouldn't recommend someone buying the best tool they can for the job? Respectfully, that's terrible advice. In the end you'll spend more getting to the starting point of an SR15 if you start out with an entry level rifle.
54:47 my mom when I'm in a zoom class.
She thought she was sneaky! Too funny.
the 11.5 uses a mid-length gas system but the 16" uses a carbine length gas system?? :/
Knight's designated their own descriptions of the gas lengths. It's confusing for me as well while I researched it.
Ah I see Knights QC has this as their policy,
“Oh you bought one of our guns, fuck you.”
Lol, I am sad to hear they didn’t take care of you.
Pretty much! It's like HK's motto: "You suck and we hate you."
Probably the least shill/bullshit video I’ve seen in a looong time. Great vid and review of an amazing rifle🤌🏼
That is one hell of a compliment. Thank you for watching my content.
Well done video
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to watch it.
Oh SHit! its Garand Thumb's brother that did all his homework for him!
Ha! Mike doesn't know me, and he doesn't need me to make his content better.
BTW, you sold me....picking up my first KAC SR-15 this week
Congrats! Where did you find one in stock? They've been unobtanium recently.
@@DeFenderCo I know, it's insane. I've had an upper and a complete lower on backorder for over a year. But this weekend I found one in a GS in Pompano Beach, FL.
Hervorragendes Video! Hervorragende Waffen! Did you move to the US or where are your parents American? My dream is to immigrate. Also glad you utilize the bcm foregrip AK style
My father was in the United States Air Force and we were stationed in Bitburg Germany.
@@DeFenderCo The American Barack's are still everywhere in Germany. Btw I like the long thorough reviews, great stuff
KNIGHT'S ARMAMENT === THE SHIT!!!!!
I’ll stop crying when I can find one. 😂😭
I panic bought mine 2-1/2 years ago. I didn’t appreciate back then how lucky I was to find one so quickly.
Well now that Flannel Daddy did a video on them they will be unobtainium again.
@@DeFenderCo I’m just patiently waiting to find a can for mine now.
I have been looking for a few weeks calling every shop and their mom to find an SR-15 14.5... No luck
Every average person is capable of sub moa groups with proper mechanics, good setup and actively trying to do so
Nice review that CS issue is a major stain
16 is intermediate 11.5 is carbine
All the research I looked through seemed that your information is correct for overall industry terms. Knight's seems to have their own version of what they call each length which was confusing and muddied the waters. I appreciate you passing your info along to me. I'm always craving more knowledge.
@@DeFenderCo absolutely primo set ups dig the fixed irons on the CQB. Perfect set up.
Is this supposed to be a parody of garand thumb
If you have to ask if a review is a comedy sketch, you might be a crayon chef; go ahead and hit that subscribe button.
13:40
“No tuning fork ping with these”
Listen @ 14:17 . 🤦🏻♂️
Only the suppressor costs the same as another ar-15.
To me KAC is worth every penny spent and a be all end all rifle…… you can beat the shit out of these rifles and they just keep going. They use the finest materials and have fixed issues with the longitivtiy of the ar15/m16 platform. If you haven’t ever shot one then do it now!
Not a fan of KAC only of their E3 bolt design and nice lower w ambi bolt stop and release. I prefer my true monolithic mega upper or aero monolithic upper (discontinued C.O.P.) with LMT Aermet 100 enhanced bolt. I would do 7075 wedgelock handguard with anti-rotation pin ❤ or M4E1 upper & HG (not the regular upper with m4e1 barrel nut) due to 4 screws serving as a true anti-rotation measure. KAC URX rely on the friction of barrel nut to not rotate then stopped from spinning off only by gas tube, that's plain stupid. For civilians, KAC is grossly overpriced when you find out how much our government paid for them. Even if money was not in question I would buy LMT MRP over KAC all day long.
Its funny I always hear “sub moa” as a standard? I have built my own for diff reasons but a sub moa group for me sucks…. Im shooting one ragged hole like .2 to .3 on command, but damn if I shot a inch or lil less Id be devastated….
Wow I cannot BELIEVE there is that much slop between upper and lower on a $3k rifle. PSA probably is approaching this quality hahaha.
Great rifles KAC makes top notch products. Are they worth the price vs the value in a normal market? Absolutely Not. The absolute vest bang for your buck, and best overall has been til this day..... LMT. When it comes to AR's they are the best of th best, followed very very closely by KAC. I now have 3 lmt mk18's have 2 DD mk18's, and 1 lmt mrp. Lmt stripped upper for 674.05 after tax and shipping with my discount.
Always heard about the weight being a factor of not purchasing the LMT over the KAC. You will be happy with both either way.
Try an LWRC international way nicer in my experience
Lwrc makes the best AR hands down