Tuckz, seriously thank you This was a VERY good and informative review CLEAR audio GOOD information and i love the incite about how the same x/y difference and super low static frction can create the illusion that it's faster than the hien. that was super great bc i was watching other reviews and many were saying it was faster than the hien which contradicts what is said on the artisan website Thank you once again.
Left a like to help with the algo, if you make your thumbnail more eye-catching you will be 10x bigger easily with this kind of quality, keep up the good work man
For the people who are confused . The pads he talked about in the vid are all from the same company named artisan. They make all kinds of pads from cloth to coated / mud to speed pads. Think about it like this for sports we all have different unique type of shoes we like to wear when playing a sport and some may be comfortable and some might not. Which is why there is no real way of saying which pad is the best between the artisan pads. Don’t get me wrong artisan is the best mouse pad company out there. Which is why it’s so hard to say which is the best pad bc it all goes down to preference. I only tried two pads from there which I loved both (hien and zsro ). Two completely different pads which are the great in their own way. Hope this helps a little when buying a pad since it’s not just a mouse pad. This mousepad will have much more impact on ur gameplay. Hope u find ur main pad. Good luck guys !
May I ask which is your main? I am getting a g pro x superlight and hopefully in white cuz the wine red hien looks amazing I just wanna make sure even though it’s fast it has control fo tactical shooters like valorant which is what I mainly play
@@tinocabral4201 Well I personally like the Artisan hayate otsu now since i just bought it and it feels literally amazing. But sometimes i switch it up with the hien and the zero. I can't personally say which one is better but I use hayate otsu for most of the games i play including valorant! If you want more info about artisan pads, there's a youtuber called 'Boardzy'. Check him out he is the reason i know artisan pads. He does all the comparisons from zero to hien and otsu and hien. He also does mouse reviews like the superlight.
Had my Otsu for 2 months now, got Hien yesterday and you are spot on... can't understand why people say Otsu has more stopping power than Hien. Otsu feels premium like no other pad on the entire market but performance is meh.
I think your feelings are based on the X Y difference and the Hien's rougher surface. I will give an example to make it clearer - I very easily stop the mouse on my tiger Eba, unlike Zero Soft, but the point is that my little finger literally touches the surface of the carpet and due to the fact that the Eba has a surface OOOVery "rough", even though there is a strong difference in speed between these carpets, I can easily stop movements on what is faster. What I am writing all this for - you need to take these points into account, because some people do not touch the carpet at all when they play, for them the situation may be proportionally inverse. (the text was translated using Google, I apologize if in some moments it may look incoherent)
@@hurricane-1836 nice ideas but I don't touch the pad when i play on any pad. I think the rougher texture Is just a good match for the Hiens speed where as the smoother texture makes the hayate slightly slippery imo
Yes I have i used the ROG scabbard a few years back now which was really good performance wise it didn't have as good stopping power as some other mousepads at that speed but still good enough for most people
If you want cordura, get the Endgame Gear pad. Or just get a Hien... it feels rough like cordura but the surface is even better. I used two cordura pads then got a Hien mid and I'm set.
that slippery initial friction is what made me give up my Endgame MPC for Hien soft, even changed tiger ice to arc v1 still wasnt enough. The hien just feel like a perfectly balanced quick pad
Tucks, I'm using a Logitech G Pro X Superlight on a GSR-SE and I hate the mousepad (After 3 months of usage only). I have 0.324 800DPI Sens in Valorant and I flick alot so I'd like to have good stopping power but still a smooth pad. Also I tend to put pressure on the mouse and I use the top side of the mousepad (arm player). What do you recommend? I feel like after watching reviews and videos the adequate mousepad for me is the Artisan Hayate Otsu (XSOFT). First I thought about going with the SOFT (Safe bet, can't go wrong with that) but people say that the XSOFT on the new hayate isn't like the xsoft/soft on the zero. I don't want my mouse to drown in the mousepad. Sorry for the long comment and thanks in advance.
Hard to say but I can help narrow It down for you, Zero definitely get either the Soft or Mid both are great Soft will feel more like a normal cloth pad a bit softer than the GSRSE and the Mid will feel really flat consistent and harder than normal clothpads and it will also come with a little more speed and less of a muddy sensation when applying pressure. Out of the Hayates I only own the Soft variant which is definitely faster than both Zero versions so maybe the xsoft is the way to go but I can say as I haven't tried it yet unfortunately. Best of luck tho
its been 10 months but if ur yet to get a pad by any chance then ill say the hayate otsu xsoft pro valorant players are starting to use the xsoft version of that pad such as aleksandar and optic yay arguably the best player rn
Have you tried an AC+ strata uncoated? which is close to it? Hayate or Zero? I want to upgrade to an artisan pad, and looking for a pad which has a good speed and good stopping power. I play Valorant and Apex Legends.
Question. Got the Skypad 3.0 but it felt too weird. I liked it but there was no stopping power at all which wasnt great for CSGO but wonderful for COD. I currently use the GSR SE which is rly shit. Like i need something in between from speed to stopping power. No big stopping for every single small movement but still power, yet also Speediness because i use a low sens (CSGO 800 dpi 1.8) and i flick a lot. A lot of people tell me to get the Zero Soft but some argue that the Hien is better because it doesnt wear out fast but also doesnt feel muddy like the GSRSE. You got any tips??? i rly dont wanna return 500 mousepad and wait 5 years for the other one to get here which i maybe hate and get the first one again.
at this moment, would you recommend the hien over the otsu? it would be my first mousepad fort competitive gamming, I am used to play on the desk, my desk is very smooth, and fast lol it does not have any texture
If you want more speed go Raiden, If you want something around the same speed only slightly faster but a much different feeling go Hien, even tho the Hayate and Hien are similar in speed i perform much more confidently on the Hien. Really opens your eyes up to how different some pads can be at similar speeds roughly.
I want to replace my Hien so badly, but every Artisan Mousepad that I want is sold out sadly. I'm a big fan of the basic Hayate FX mousepad, but my cat damaged it. Wasn't able to get another Hayate FX soft L ever since.
I have a zero soft, a zero mid and a hien soft.I love the zero mid but it's too slow, instead the hien soft at the beginning I liked it a lot but after breaking it became too slow for me ... I would like to know the hayate otsu mid is slightly faster than a hien soft :c
I think the mid hayate otsu still feels very close to a Hien is speed, I'd recommend the Raiden mid or xsoft if you want even more speed just be careful with sensor spinouts on thay pad
@@AtlantisTuckz nah i'm sure the raiden is too fast for me (i play valorant, during the first days of hien i ranked immortal) i'm undecided so whether to take hien mid or hayate otsu mid ... i think i'll go with hayate otsu mid, as you said in the review is much more "free" than the hien right? Thanks for the reply man much love
Great review!!! One question after see your review I guess Hayate Otsu is more similar to Razer Gigantus right? I like medium mousepads as this the better of both speed/control worlds. Is right to say Zero is more close to GSR or G640 and Hein is more close Strider? Thanks.
I've heard the hayate xsoft is better than the soft version I have never tried it though, I'd also recommend keeping to just soft on the Zero as it's already really soft in the soft version
Hien lasts longer than the otsu but the otsu is supposedly the better pad I have the hien and I do not regret having it at all prolly will cop the otsu
Not at all you just feel the texture more, some people may prefer the higher feedback from the pad, I'm one of those people as I currently main the Hien and love how the pad gives me feedback as I use it, its never a distracting amount even on the otsu but its there.
@@AtlantisTuckz Thanks for the quick answer. I bought hayate otsu mid and hien mid, wanted it to be a buttery smooth glide, as if the mouse pad wouldn’t be there. Which one of the artisan pads would feel like that in your opinion? (My pads aren’t there yet)
@@ney9207 If you want a buttery smooth glide, the Zero Mid would be the perfect pad IMO im using it now and its so smooth and the perfect speed to control its crazy
@@ney9207 Also id like to say that the Hien Mid and Hayate Mid are both going to be less smooth than the Soft options so if you wanted smoothness id actually recommend changing your order unless your looking for pure speed.
@@AtlantisTuckz Im not sure if changing the order is an option anymore. I could live with the Mids if its not a big deal, i definitely care more about the speed, just that it would bother me if it feels distracting or uncomfortable, would u say it still feels smooth, just not as smooth as the soft?
I still struggle to get comfortable with the hien. Idk why the Otsu just felt right out of the box. I think speed feels somewhat similar but with the Otsu stopping on a dime is so easy.
@@AtlantisTuckz I would say within the first hours of the first gaming session. I freaked out because within an hour or two of use I was breaking PRs on aim lab.
@@MT_Abyss nah i think the Soft is the best version of the hien the xsoft just makes it feel slower overall, i dunno any issue with micro correcting should be an issue on your part as thats what the Hien is great for.
Tuckz, seriously thank you
This was a VERY good and informative review
CLEAR audio
GOOD information
and i love the incite about how the same x/y difference and super low static frction can create the illusion that it's faster than the hien. that was super great bc i was watching other reviews and many were saying it was faster than the hien which contradicts what is said on the artisan website
Thank you once again.
I have watched a lot of mousepad reviews, but this review is something else, extremely informative and to the point. Good fucking job!
Left a like to help with the algo, if you make your thumbnail more eye-catching you will be 10x bigger easily with this kind of quality, keep up the good work man
@@stefancheung4778 Thanks so much dude! This is a really good bit of motivation so thankyou for that!
For the people who are confused . The pads he talked about in the vid are all from the same company named artisan. They make all kinds of pads from cloth to coated / mud to speed pads. Think about it like this for sports we all have different unique type of shoes we like to wear when playing a sport and some may be comfortable and some might not. Which is why there is no real way of saying which pad is the best between the artisan pads. Don’t get me wrong artisan is the best mouse pad company out there. Which is why it’s so hard to say which is the best pad bc it all goes down to preference. I only tried two pads from there which I loved both (hien and zsro ). Two completely different pads which are the great in their own way. Hope this helps a little when buying a pad since it’s not just a mouse pad. This mousepad will have much more impact on ur gameplay. Hope u find ur main pad. Good luck guys !
May I ask which is your main? I am getting a g pro x superlight and hopefully in white cuz the wine red hien looks amazing I just wanna make sure even though it’s fast it has control fo tactical shooters like valorant which is what I mainly play
@@tinocabral4201 Well I personally like the Artisan hayate otsu now since i just bought it and it feels literally amazing. But sometimes i switch it up with the hien and the zero. I can't personally say which one is better but I use hayate otsu for most of the games i play including valorant! If you want more info about artisan pads, there's a youtuber called 'Boardzy'. Check him out he is the reason i know artisan pads. He does all the comparisons from zero to hien and otsu and hien. He also does mouse reviews like the superlight.
@@tinocabral4201 th-cam.com/video/38OscxGHxiU/w-d-xo.html
he mains the hayate otsu with the g pro superlight !
@@ninjabieber7695 Otsu soft or xsoft
Had my Otsu for 2 months now, got Hien yesterday and you are spot on... can't understand why people say Otsu has more stopping power than Hien. Otsu feels premium like no other pad on the entire market but performance is meh.
Glad my instincts were right LOL something ive always said but alot disagree with me on
I think your feelings are based on the X Y difference and the Hien's rougher surface. I will give an example to make it clearer - I very easily stop the mouse on my tiger Eba, unlike Zero Soft, but the point is that my little finger literally touches the surface of the carpet and due to the fact that the Eba has a surface OOOVery "rough", even though there is a strong difference in speed between these carpets, I can easily stop movements on what is faster. What I am writing all this for - you need to take these points into account, because some people do not touch the carpet at all when they play, for them the situation may be proportionally inverse. (the text was translated using Google, I apologize if in some moments it may look incoherent)
@@hurricane-1836 nice ideas but I don't touch the pad when i play on any pad. I think the rougher texture Is just a good match for the Hiens speed where as the smoother texture makes the hayate slightly slippery imo
@@AtlantisTuckz my fingers don’t touch the pad but my arm does should I fix that?
@@frogidty Your arm and wrist touching th pad is ideal, dont worry.
comeback for reviews man this is gold... whats your main now?
Which one do you think is better for stopping power and speed Hien or Otsu ?
Ey, since a whole time has passed i was wondering what would u say now between the hien and the otsu any preference ?
Hey do you think getting a Hien over Otsu while trying to switch to a low sens would be a good move? I am mainly a Valorant player, cheers!
Hi, have you ever used or heard of cordura mousepads? And whats your opinion on it?
Yes I have i used the ROG scabbard a few years back now which was really good performance wise it didn't have as good stopping power as some other mousepads at that speed but still good enough for most people
If you want cordura, get the Endgame Gear pad. Or just get a Hien... it feels rough like cordura but the surface is even better. I used two cordura pads then got a Hien mid and I'm set.
How is the Otsu v2 holding up compared to the Hein after 6 months?
Hey man, nice video!
I have 2 questions,
1 what sleeve are you using on your right arm
2 did you end up liking the Hayate Otsu after long term use?
how's it been holding up now? considering buying it since its in stock rn, i mainly play val and dont know if i should just wait for a zero restock
that slippery initial friction is what made me give up my Endgame MPC for Hien soft, even changed tiger ice to arc v1 still wasnt enough. The hien just feel like a perfectly balanced quick pad
what exactly do u mean? does the mpc feel slippery compsred to hien or other way around, im on mpc right now, thinking about hien :)
Should I get soft, xs or mid for the hien?
@@Blooms2g id say soft
Razer strider seems very sped to me and the razer gigantus v2 very slow, now I don't know whether to buy the ayate otsu o zero.
Tucks, I'm using a Logitech G Pro X Superlight on a GSR-SE and I hate the mousepad (After 3 months of usage only).
I have 0.324 800DPI Sens in Valorant and I flick alot so I'd like to have good stopping power but still a smooth pad.
Also I tend to put pressure on the mouse and I use the top side of the mousepad (arm player).
What do you recommend?
I feel like after watching reviews and videos the adequate mousepad for me is the Artisan Hayate Otsu (XSOFT).
First I thought about going with the SOFT (Safe bet, can't go wrong with that) but people say that the XSOFT on the new hayate isn't like the xsoft/soft on the zero.
I don't want my mouse to drown in the mousepad.
Sorry for the long comment and thanks in advance.
Hard to say but I can help narrow It down for you, Zero definitely get either the Soft or Mid both are great Soft will feel more like a normal cloth pad a bit softer than the GSRSE and the Mid will feel really flat consistent and harder than normal clothpads and it will also come with a little more speed and less of a muddy sensation when applying pressure. Out of the Hayates I only own the Soft variant which is definitely faster than both Zero versions so maybe the xsoft is the way to go but I can say as I haven't tried it yet unfortunately. Best of luck tho
its been 10 months but if ur yet to get a pad by any chance then ill say the hayate otsu xsoft pro valorant players are starting to use the xsoft version of that pad such as aleksandar and optic yay arguably the best player rn
Have you tried an AC+ strata uncoated? which is close to it? Hayate or Zero? I want to upgrade to an artisan pad, and looking for a pad which has a good speed and good stopping power. I play Valorant and Apex Legends.
Whats in between the zero and the otsu?
hmm so did u stick hayate or hien?
What’s the difference between the mid otsu and soft?
Question.
Got the Skypad 3.0 but it felt too weird. I liked it but there was no stopping power at all which wasnt great for CSGO but wonderful for COD.
I currently use the GSR SE which is rly shit.
Like i need something in between from speed to stopping power.
No big stopping for every single small movement but still power, yet also Speediness because i use a low sens (CSGO 800 dpi 1.8) and i flick a lot.
A lot of people tell me to get the Zero Soft but some argue that the Hien is better because it doesnt wear out fast but also doesnt feel muddy like the GSRSE.
You got any tips??? i rly dont wanna return 500 mousepad and wait 5 years for the other one to get here which i maybe hate and get the first one again.
Safe Bet is Zero Soft, if you want something a little faster then Hayate otsu soft
what sleeve works well with the pad i have a h4x sleeve and it doest6 work well at all it only works well with the Y axis do you have any rec?
Did you find out?
at this moment, would you recommend the hien over the otsu? it would be my first mousepad fort competitive gamming, I am used to play on the desk, my desk is very smooth, and fast lol it does not have any texture
Been a month but boardzy seems to recommend the otsu after the upgrade
I’m looking for a pad similar to vespula V2 control side. I am a wrist player with a high DPI. Harder Control pads seem to be my sweet spot
Maybe try a artisan zero in mid because your hand won’t sink as much and that’s a control pad.
i miss the streams :-(
I already have a hayate otsu and love it, now i want to buy another artisan mousepad what do you think i shoukd get a raiden or hien?
If you want more speed go Raiden, If you want something around the same speed only slightly faster but a much different feeling go Hien, even tho the Hayate and Hien are similar in speed i perform much more confidently on the Hien. Really opens your eyes up to how different some pads can be at similar speeds roughly.
@@AtlantisTuckz thanks
Raiden is EXTREMELY fast, so if you play any game like CSGO, I would not recommend. I'd say get the hien, as it is safe for every genre.
I want to replace my Hien so badly, but every Artisan Mousepad that I want is sold out sadly. I'm a big fan of the basic Hayate FX mousepad, but my cat damaged it. Wasn't able to get another Hayate FX soft L ever since.
I feel that that's sad 😥
I have a zero soft, a zero mid and a hien soft.I love the zero mid but it's too slow, instead the hien soft at the beginning I liked it a lot but after breaking it became too slow for me ... I would like to know the hayate otsu mid is slightly faster than a hien soft :c
I think the mid hayate otsu still feels very close to a Hien is speed, I'd recommend the Raiden mid or xsoft if you want even more speed just be careful with sensor spinouts on thay pad
@@AtlantisTuckz nah i'm sure the raiden is too fast for me (i play valorant, during the first days of hien i ranked immortal) i'm undecided so whether to take hien mid or hayate otsu mid ... i think i'll go with hayate otsu mid, as you said in the review is much more "free" than the hien right? Thanks for the reply man much love
@@xGamePro88 Give it a go but if the Hien is not fast enough I dont think the Hayate will be
@@AtlantisTuckz otherwise i could try the hien mid, but i heard there is too much difference in x and y axis. thanks again for the help
Wait the gameplay at 1:22 the same as the zero gameplay ???
Ye i had to use some clips twice as I hadnt been playing much that week
Great review!!! One question after see your review I guess Hayate Otsu is more similar to Razer Gigantus right? I like medium mousepads as this the better of both speed/control worlds.
Is right to say Zero is more close to GSR or G640 and Hein is more close Strider?
Thanks.
Im getting the hayate otsu xsoft and the zero xsoft
Btw. how do u feel about the hayate otsu now?
I've heard the hayate xsoft is better than the soft version I have never tried it though, I'd also recommend keeping to just soft on the Zero as it's already really soft in the soft version
@@AtlantisTuckz Ok ty for feedback. I actually preordered both the soft and xsoft zero
@@lnbabz good choice bro youll love it
@@AtlantisTuckz Thanks man. I guess the Zero will be best for tac fps (valorant and cs:go). I'm exctied, but the pads won't ship until early July ;-(
Should a beginner go for xsoft or soft?
In hayate Xsoft because it slows down a good amount to be more controllable, soft is still good but faster
@@AtlantisTuckz is xsoft a speed pad?
Will you recommend this pad for someone uses a low sens? I am currently using a g240 which i would like to upgrade on
For sure I would but its all preference so i cant guarantee youll love it
Hien lasts longer than the otsu but the otsu is supposedly the better pad I have the hien and I do not regret having it at all prolly will cop the otsu
Great Video
nice review !
for a viper mini 1700dpi, Which one would you recommend?
Dam bro i use 800dpi
What sensitivity do you play on with the hayate otsu soft?
800dpi 0.34
@@AtlantisTuckz For which game?
@@kudosu valorant bruh
soo now its bean years does it stay good?
Most definitely, longest lasting pad ive tried
I only been using mine for 2 months and started to feel speed difference on the part i use :(
If I can use a kitchen cutting board than you can use your current mousepad
what keyboard is this?
Fnatic Streak 65
Does the Mid feel too rough?
Not at all you just feel the texture more, some people may prefer the higher feedback from the pad, I'm one of those people as I currently main the Hien and love how the pad gives me feedback as I use it, its never a distracting amount even on the otsu but its there.
@@AtlantisTuckz Thanks for the quick answer. I bought hayate otsu mid and hien mid, wanted it to be a buttery smooth glide, as if the mouse pad wouldn’t be there. Which one of the artisan pads would feel like that in your opinion? (My pads aren’t there yet)
@@ney9207 If you want a buttery smooth glide, the Zero Mid would be the perfect pad IMO im using it now and its so smooth and the perfect speed to control its crazy
@@ney9207 Also id like to say that the Hien Mid and Hayate Mid are both going to be less smooth than the Soft options so if you wanted smoothness id actually recommend changing your order unless your looking for pure speed.
@@AtlantisTuckz Im not sure if changing the order is an option anymore. I could live with the Mids if its not a big deal, i definitely care more about the speed, just that it would bother me if it feels distracting or uncomfortable, would u say it still feels smooth, just not as smooth as the soft?
Hey im a nerd and i like your video !
Bro you shit on me in realistic 💀🤣
haha ggs dude :D
True review
I still struggle to get comfortable with the hien. Idk why the Otsu just felt right out of the box. I think speed feels somewhat similar but with the Otsu stopping on a dime is so easy.
How long did it take for you to get truly comfortable with otsu?
@@AtlantisTuckz I would say within the first hours of the first gaming session. I freaked out because within an hour or two of use I was breaking PRs on aim lab.
@@MT_Abyss thats crazy exact same thing happened with me on the hien tho lol
@@AtlantisTuckz bro my micro adjustments take such a huge hit when I use the hien. You think Xsoft version would help ?
@@MT_Abyss nah i think the Soft is the best version of the hien the xsoft just makes it feel slower overall, i dunno any issue with micro correcting should be an issue on your part as thats what the Hien is great for.
how was the mid for flick shoots compare to the soft?
there is not that big of a difference, very minimal
Didn't even need to watch the video because you had the answer in the thumbnail... maybe don't do that next time? Either way, like from me
Dam you've figured out the system don't watch videos watch titles
Hey tuckz I need help
Sure whats up dude
Still maining it?
Him: "not recommending this for valorant or csgo"
NV yay (El Diablo): 😂
Nice
Worse then a Hien, Worse then a Zero, just lmao.
Forknife
Bro, you talk way to damn fast.