Great video. I have similar issue going on. P0087 fuel rail low on 2016. Rail at 15k demand is 26k. Pulled sensor on top of pump no shavings, replaced valve in back of rail and still same.
This is exactly why I replace the fuel filters every oil change on my 2016 Ford F250 6.7 as well as filling up at the same place every time and running the archoil. People have told me oh fuel filters every oil change that's over kill. Even if so hey i'd much rather spend the extra $70.00 or so and the at most 15 min to replace the filters than have to deal with the heart ache of this mess not to mention any more the months wait it takes to get parts these days! Keep up the good work bud!
Wow. Well done. Good video. Had this exact problem on a 2012 F550. Pulled my hair out too. P228F-00 code. Symptom engine idle fine, rev engine, or run at high idle and disengage high idle, fuel pressure would spike the drop enough for engine to die, usually under 2000 psi. Changed MPROM, no fix, changed PCV no fix, changed FP sensor no fix. Finally got from Ford exactly what you found. “orfice has become dislodged” this orfice is used to create the correct pressure differential between main fuel rail pressure and PCV side of rail. Ford fix is to replace entire DS fuel rail as orfice is not repairable. Fixed my problem. Hooray! Cool thing is Ford sells entire rail including both FP sensor and PCV for less than the 2 combined.
['21 F350] I experienced the P0087, ie I couldn't develop adequate fuel pressure at WOT and I tracked the problem down to a tiny nick at the edge of a (new) fuel pressure regulator. The truck would idle, even drive OK, but at WOT it would throw the code. Since you replaced the regulator and it did not resolve the problem, I would inspect the threads (mating) side of the tube for any irregularity. This part of the system has extremely low tolerances as you mentioned.
I've been pretty successful with just cranking that sensor down by hand without any issues. Nor have I used any torque spec or torquing sequence as recommended. The biggest thing is it just really needs to be tight. If I have any issues at any point doing that method I will come back and comment otherwise.
ARod-regarding the orifice, take a look at your Ford 6.7 Coffee Table Book. In the Fuel Management System subsection, under the Fuel System section, it talks about an orifice in close proximity to the diverter volume area, which I think is near the front of the rail. Here’s the verbiage “From the diverter volume area, fuel goes through an orifice to supply the left fuel rail and through a high pressure fuel line over to the right fuel rail.”
Was getting code P228F. Truck started stalling at low idle. Swapped in a new Fuel Pressure Regulator (Ford p/n CM 5185) on the end of the rail and fixed my issue. 20 minute job. The longest part was taking out the wheel well to gain access.
Thanks for your comment. I am getting the same code P228F (fuel pressure regulator exceed max relearn). I am going to replace that sensor to repair the truck. Any advise on how to replace that sensor?
I think Ford should put the DEF fill on the other side of the truck, this would help with any mistakes and confusion, of course I know they won’t, great video sir 👍😁
Hell no, gm did that and it's stupid, a real pain to fill when the Def nozzle is by the diesel pump nozzle. Filled Def tanks many times, have yet to get Def in the diesel tank.
Can't believe I missed this episode! Past two weeks, I've been binge watching & learning about the CP4 cause I'm worried about it coming apart and costing me thousands! Time for Arod to educate me on the deal. Press play...
Had 2017 F 750 the last few days it die going down the road and blew the return line t off no codes would t start after repairing the return line found it had # 5 injector check all the normal stuff like you said blocked off injectors one at a time and tried to start it when got to number 5 it ran got it all back together no codes and was running good sent truck out and it would go into power loss mode it was loosing fuel pressure replaced the sensor and regulator and fixed it first time messing either one so it was learning curve
I change my fuel filters out every 12-14,000 miles. Seen it says 22k but after 12-14 filters pretty dark,even with high volume fuel,in part for piece of mind and In part to just keep filters fresh,filters like $58. I also use Fords fuel additive pm-22
ARod, you need to get a band saw for all these parts your cutting open, nice see what's going on inside these components when they fail. Great job on the videos
I have a 2016 F-550 Flatbed that the HPFS failed at 54,800 miles. Always dealer serviced, fuel station turns their fuel regularly. Ford covered the repairs under warranty especially after I took my own fuel samples and e-mailed them the results showing the fuel was clean. After 2 months at the dealership getting this truck repaired it went back 1 week later for the valve cover gaskets leaking. 1 week after that the timing chain cover started leaking. Before that it was the upper oil pan leaking, lower turbo boot blew off and a few other issues. Sorry but I'll never buy another 6.7L diesel again. I'm going back to a gas engine on my next truck. I always enjoy your videos though btw.
They should have seen all that when they had the cab off from doing the first job. Don’t believe it all started leaking that badly so soon all of A sudden
Mine quit me taking off from a traffic light. Metal was everywhere when I pulled the VCV. Mailed fuel to a lab, and they said the it was just fine. Servicing dealer refused to do any failure analysis on the cores, so I have no clue what smoked mine. I add PM22A (buy it in gallon jug)at every fuel stop, fill up at a place with rapid tank turnover, Motorcraft fuel filters every other oil change, and check the water separator regularly, and never found any. Monthly payments on the pump and injector job are bigger than they were for the rest of the truck!
just had a 2020 6.7 powerstroke come through after the owner filled up the truck with diesel and then put 2-3 gallons of def in the diesel tank, ran it for a couple minutes then realized what he did and immediately shut it off.. long story short dropped the tank drained fuel, opened tank up and mopped up the little def crystals best we could, dropped both fuel filters, ran clean diesel through the system and caught it in a bucket from fuel tank return line, dropped those new filters and put on another 2 new filters, filled tank up with 5-10 gallons of clean diesel, cranked on first try, since then it has about 2k miles and has been running fine since
Great video. Got a 2015 6.7 and about once every 2 days I'll get the p228 that says fuel rail pressure sensor learning limits exceeded. Demand vs Actual are right on. You are the 2nd video I've seen where they replaced the driver rail and problem solved. Looks like I'm gonna get a fuel rail and some HP lines. Thanks!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod idk it's running fine right now only thing I notice is the engine light is on but I'm parking it until I take it to a shop,, I don't wanna run it and make it worse
I may have to replace my fuel system. Hopefully not, but I have the dreaded p0087 code. Truck starts right up, idling sounds good, and it seems to drive fine. But it keeps giving me the reduced power code. May try swapping the sensor first, but if that doesn’t work, it’s going to the shop where I’ll probably need to replace the whole fuel system.😢
Man I’ve been messing with mine now for a minute P0088, P0087 I checked the fuel filter also pulled the regulator (no metal in or on either) I replaced the regulator and the P0088 code went away but I still have P0087 so I back tracked to the fuel pump and found a leak replaced that fuel pump (it was shot) and still have the P0087😞 the only loss I get is just at start up
Not really confirmed but my trucks injector lines are constantly buzzing like it’s always priming when I turn my key on. Could a bad fuel rail cause this issue? It also defuels at WOT.
I just installed an SPE distaster kit on my 6.7 and immediately got a no start, primed the system per instructions, still no start. Towed to the dealer and got the classic "Bad Fuel," told that I need an entire new fuel system and of coarse Ford will not cover it, 67k miles, out of warranty. I then took off the SPE kit, put everything back like it was, still no start. Screwed in a State that I do not live
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what really? I just watched one of you previous videos complementing them on their external ccv catch can and ccv reroute kit. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Yea!!! And since then, it got thrown out. Their service & company, well buddy im not hear to slander. I thought it was good......key word thought. I wouldn't want you all to go thru the debacle of dealing with SPE...regardless of their interdepartmental problems that are going on right now...covid, their personal issues, blah blah blah. I AM UNDERSTANDING but when you do not reciprocate back & on top of everything else i hear from other people who have used them....brother I do not have time for that.....enough is enough. I'll sell my truck be4 I put their products on my truck
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Well, their customer service does seem to be lacking. Only recently delt with them on a ccv reroute. I honestly feel they make a good product from what I've seen, other then that, I have read more bad then good. Some people and companies don't truly understand the importance of customer care and service along with a quality product.
I'm experiencing this now. I always change fuel filters when I change oil. Inspect filters fuel and oil. Never seen any debris before. Now the complete system. I have 178k on truck and am 2nd owner my brother was the original owner. Wlways been serviced at regular intervals.
My truck just stopped on the way to work. Quoted 14,956.87 to replace with another CP4.2 and new injectors and all the other stuff that’s in the kit. They said they would give a 2 year warranty unlimited miles. My question should I do this or do the DCR conversion ? With no warranty.. I hate this the truck is gonna sit for a while maybe a year !
Never heard or a Orifice on the fuel rail on a 6.7 that would be crazy if they put one there because of fuel pressures. As you open one up it's not there. Post if you find answer. Thanks
Hey , just checking if you ever found an orfice. I spoke to several ford mechanics they said they have not heard or ever seen any kind of orfice on the fuel rail.
Yea I have, on the three time now. Mechanic couldn’t fix it last time. He replaced injectors but only cleaned rail. I’m pissed. Runs at idle rough at times and then cleans up intermittently.
Is their a specific test or procedure to troubleshoot the fuel rail? Perform all of the pinpoint diagnostics for fault P0087 and everything is checking within specs. FVCV has been replaced, FPCV and FRP sensors have been replaced by another shop. Went through diag three times to make sure a step wasn’t skipped and still the same results. Thanks
Hey Arod I have a 2013 f250 and I originally had a P026a and P0087 together. The P0087 code went away on its own and never came back, and i have since replaced the charge air intercooler and gotten rid of the P026a code. But currently I have a P228f code and it is intermittent it comes and goes, but mostly trips CEL and comes on. What are your thoughts brother? Truck has 210k miles currently.
There's a recall on some 2020/21 6.7's for the left hand fuel rail due to possible dislodging of the orifice, as you've described. Fsa 20b41. Pays half decent too lol. Especially nice if they don't have the noise isolator covers on
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Hey so I've got a head scratcher.. 2020 f350 6.7 throwing p0191. Power balance looks like a literal sine wave. Falls on its face soon as frp commands above 20k psi, at which point actual falls to about 10k below desired. Fails last pressure stage of hp fuel system tests incapable of reaching 25k psi. Parts replaced: High pressure fuel system, engine harness, ckp, cmp, pcm, bjb, lift pump, disconnected all inputs while engine running, no difference. Disconnected alternators, disconnected power invertor. No other codes. The sine wave power balance accompanied with severe loping idle has me believing it could be rfi. I know there was a tsb for injector issues caused by interference when certain components are plugged into rear charging port. Supply pressure is good. All tables and iqa's have been reset. Fuel is clean. Relative compression is straight. No pid's appear out of wack. Another reason I suspect rfi. Injector mass pids are all equally pulling fuel and bouncing at the far left of the screen. You have any ideas? Ever seen anything like that with a sine wave power balance?
What is the cost on all these parts?I could do that work myself.I imagine except the reprogram the injectors.I can get someone to program the injectors
That was a good vid. I agree, I really didn't think the Bosch CP4 pump is a bad piece. It was always about the fuel & possible contamination. Problem is we can't always control the fuel we buy, hoping it's good quality. My truck is a 13 with 200K on it. If my CP4 grenades, I'm not sure I'm spending 11K on a fuel system even though it's still a nice truck, Maybe it's a Platinum, Okay I would, but It would be nice if that SPE kit does what it claims, that's cheap insurance & it's Plug & Play. Always great content from Arod, I appreciate you sharing your craft with us!!
It's not a bad design? Faults! Ram and GM never had these issues with the cp3. Since GM went to a different pump they longer have this catastrophic failure. Surely with what these trucks cost now ford should have no problem finding a better pump and design.
I have a question I'm working on a 6.7 and my pressure on the high side is at 3,000 to 4,000 then it drops and truck turns off...on the high way at 70mph pressure is at 22,500 psi... it wont stay running at idle
I have a 4-5 second long crank with code p228f and on idle it has like a fuel knock but once you rev it the fuel knock goes away . Any ideas if that regulator would cause that ?
hi, my truck its show me a oil light, and the code p2291 i change my oil and filter, and still not start, its possible if i have low pressure oil the truck will not start???? thanks
I got a 2012 f350 with 123k miles. fully deleted with a mini max . My Fuel pressure drops down to 2.5 Ksi when I release the throttle, and low power when accelerating. Probably 5k miles ago I replaced the fuel pressure regulator( the one on the rail) because it would drop off like this, but still had good acceleration. Changing that part made the truck run great till now. Going to change fuel filters first, and I’ll open the cp4 regulator this weekend. Really hoping I don’t see metal. Past this I’ll need someone to check actual and called for pressure since I don’t know if my tuner is 100% accurate on the readings.
I just replaced my whole fuel system I was hauling my living quarters horse trailer and cracked my cp4 clean in half but it still throws p0087 once I get on it it’s got a turbo piping kit and a couple other goodies
Glad I found you! This video is exactly what I'm dealing with. I just bought a used good condition 2019 6.7L F250. The truck ran great until I put the S&S CP4 disaster prevention kit on. After putting the kit on, the truck ran for 30 seconds, then burped and chugged and died and hasn't started since. It's throwing the P2291 code. I've double and triple checked the S&S install and plumbing and everything is as it should be. I'm getting fuel through the entire low pressure system and even cracked a supply nut on the driver side fuel rail with the key on and got good flow out of the fuel rail. There was no metal glitter paint found during the install. What are the chances one of these other high pressure fuel components went out at the same time? Help!
So it’s good to buy cp4 filter like , S & S diesel . Another question I have 2017 , in your opinion, I have been think of delete the def system , would recommend to do it
In the process of changing my fuel system,cp4 pump failure .just spent the money today $3531.00 local ford dealership and I'm doing this my self,not a truck mechanic I'm a field service heavy equipment mechanic 👍 2013 true cab/chassis used for personal use only 4wd crew cab looks like to much fun
I have a P228F, P0170, and multiple cyl contribution /balance codes. Truck ran fine, thought engine blew. Sat 2 yrs, then found starter messed up. Put new starter and batteries on, started up and ran fine. Ran for 2 weeks, then suddenly started studdering and quit. Hasn't run since. Threw those codes. Changed filters, dropped and cleaned tank, pulled cpr4 valve and it was as clean as can be. No rust, no flakes. Still stuck with a 100k mile truck not knowing what to do. Everyone saying fuel system at $10k to fix. Haven't found anything to justify doing that.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Sorry at the time I meant to add more details and hit send anyways. I pulled the valve on the top of the pump as you suggested. There is a tiny amount of metal shavings I have a close up pic if I can share it with you via email. I drove it with the long cranks about 12 times before parking it. Is there a chance I can replace just the pump, or is any amount of shavings grounds for full fuel system replacement?
ARod, yes we have had this failure and caught it before the engine was damaged. HOWEVER the entire fuel system has now been replaced (New CP4, metering valve, lines, rails, injectors, low pressure pump. Everything in the fuel system is brand new) and it runs in park or neutral but a couple minutes in drive. Commanded fuel pressure will spike, the actual pressure is correct but the difference trips the low fuel pressure code and sends it to reduced power mode P0087 code. Any ideas??
Cp4 just went on my 2017, up here in Canada the dealer wants $25,000 to replace entire system, and can’t get to it for another 2 months. I see kits online for this but is it possible for a backyard mechanic to do this?
Nice thank you sir I watch all your videos and I wish you were closer I'd take my truck to you I really just don't trust people these days, I've had a so called diesel master mechanic at a 4 dealership work on my 6.0 bingo and stripped stripped every 8 mm bolt there was while Tearing it down to get to one injector replacement because they decided to use an impact gun and cross threaded them👎
Hey man I work at a fleet with a lot of these 6.7 running around and I’ve learned a lot from watching your videos, just did a 2020 fuel system replacement from DEF and you got me curious with that rail and I did find the orifice and it is on the other side of the rail after the line that feeds the passenger side rail and makes sense to me it’s there cuz I’ve always wondered how the passenger side doesn’t get starved with fuel
Great video!! Question for you. Have you ever come across an issue with the fuel return lines blowing off the plastic fittings at the injectors? I’m working on a 6.7 that has an issue blowing return lines off . I thought it was a restriction at first so I blow the lines out from the injectors to the tank . I also swapped out the injectors that the hoses are blowing off the fittings with known good injectors. The return line assembly is also new . The problem only happens under hard acceleration or heavy engine load. At idle it’s fine. No other drivability issues.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod How do I test/trace the restriction. It happened right after installing new/reman fuel system . Truck starts but when press the gas rapidly bogs down .
We’ve had two trucks in our fleet need whole fuel systems. One was from a guy putting def in. Ruined everything. Other was water contamination took out the whole system.
Could you demonstrate How to look at that sensor when pulling off the intake? My 2013 is giving me code : P228F and I’m not sure if I have to replace the whole fuel system or just the fuel rail with pressure sensor at the end . Please help thank you
i have a 2014 f-350 6.7l powerstroke. my actual fuel rail pressure reaches 10k psi before i get an engine derate power warning, my desired and commanded are both at 4800-5000 yet it builds up to 10k. at full throttle and varying throttle desired and actual are perfectly in sync after i get the derate warning. also throws code p0088. any help would be appreciated
I have personally had this exact same issue. 3 shops tried to fix it but only after me doing some looking in to had the fuel preasure regulator replace to fix the problem. while under load and only under load my truck would go into limp mode and then I had to reset the dtc's to get it to work again.
Mine failed in June of this year. Truck had 315k miles on it when it failed. Mechanic said the CP4.2 had fail from age. I wish it would have been water or def. I was told insurance would have covered the repair if that was the case. Repair ended up running me about 10k out of pocket.
Getting p228f code truck idles fine, no power to pull its self though. I see most of your replies to p228f are to replace the ds fuel rail, is this cause by the cp4 going bad is replacing the rail going to completely fix my issue. Is it the start of a complete fuel system failure or will I be done back on the road.
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yes it was still running when I parked it. Just doesn’t have much power. Won’t move over 45 mph and coding for p228f. I will start with replacing pump and fuel rail. Thank you!!
Hey ARod we have a fleet of F550's and one of the 2018 is getting a reoccurring fault code for multiple fuel injector learning limit exceeded, runs fine other than slight fuel knock occasionally at idle, have you seen this before ? Should i take the VCV out and inspect . Thanks
Does anyone know if a bad fuel volume control valve will still give good fuel pressure reading in the high pressure fuel pump? My fuel volume control valve is only opening up at 26% duty cycle and at WOT 31%...seems stuck to me but fuel pressure is on target to what my fuel pressure is commanding?
Have you seen any pump failures that didn’t result in metal shavings? I’m trying to diagnose a truck right now, fuel pressure regulator is good and holding, VCV made a rattle noise when you shake it so I replaced that (new one doesn’t rattle) I’m getting zero pressure on the rail. Lift pump is giving me 80psi. Checked rail pressure with a gauge and still nothing. Lower filter had some nasty water in it from a bed fuel tank. Flushed fuel tank with fresh fuel.
Fuel question.... 2012 f250, at cruising speed long distances I started to get a (slight but definitely noticeable) hesitation/miss... bought the better mprop sensor, pulled the old out, clean as a whistle, installed the better one... truck did great idling and around the neighborhood, drove 30 miles to work and it started missing horribly about 2 miles out, got to work and truck was surging so bad, it was shaking (like it had a big cam), pulled up fuel map and it was constient waves across the map... no codes whatsoever. 2012 deleted, filters less than 2k miles. Thoughts where to start??
So changing fuel filters isn’t a bad thing. On my 2016 i only use motorcraft filters and change them every 15,000 miles. Which is every other oil change.
I have replaced all 8 fuel injectors on my customer 2017 f450 truck and tried to programm it with IDS but at the end of coding IDS shows "procedure unsuccessful". What you think could be wrong or any special sequence for coding? Thanks.
2012 6.7 f350 king ranch, I noticed glitter in the main filter bowl at 290k miles, had a shop replace the entire system with Fords contamination kit, at 370k miles I got my first issue, low engine power, 0087 code and then engine stalled and would not restart. I traded my truck in for a 17' model, now wondering if I should try to buy it back to fix it and sell for 4-6k more than the trade value at 8500, please advise if you think this is a good idea or not and cut my 10k loss that I spent on the fuel system in November 2020, thanks in advance
I changed mine about a year and half. Not sure what the problem was. I just bought the truck used and about 6 months it went down on the freeway. It was the fuel pump failure. I was able to do it all myself. Cost me around 5k after I put a airdog and damage prevention on it. No I have a p0278 and p0284 codes. I changed the vacuum pump today cause I had no brakes. All this happened the same time. I had gas in my fuel so I drained tank and changed all fuel filters and changed oil. I was getting contribution balance on all cylinders and now it's just on 6 and 8. Any ideas?
I think the only one that has an office is the beginning years the other one comes built on to the sensor , could have it backwards I got one the pump looks good and losing pressure and returning to Tank , supplied power and ground to both sensors to close return and still bypasses to return system
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod have you ever had those high-pressure pumps no metal no scarring on the pumps when you take it apart and still not produce pressure , I have one that I opening the pump can’t find nothing wrong with it wired both sensors up to deadhead pump pressure and still cannot produce 50 psi , and bypasses to the return
Hi. On a 2014 f350 it's hard to start or no start and if I use starter fluid runs good but when I turn it off I can't turn it on till I use starter fluid. Ani advice thanks
So if I’m getting 4300 + psi I shouldn’t look toward the cp4 ?? I’m about 100 to 150 psi difference from desired truck started with issue with 3300 psi replaced filters and pump 1st time we had 4300 lowest and 28999 highest and week later came back i replaced sending unit and pressure sensor test drove it and light popped back up I’m leaning toward control valve
I manage a fleet of work trucks, almost all 6.7's. Had two fuel systems replaced in the last two years. One had fuel from a fuel cell (which probably had the cap left off for awhile) which contaminated it. On the other truck we were told that the fuel looked fine at the time they pulled it apart but the system was compromised from a previous fill up. I suspect DEF was put in that one. We don't use any additives, but that's the direction I'm heading, those repairs hit out budgets hard. Any suggestions on fuel additives and how frequent they should be used?
Man I'm happy I found your channel. I haven't seen someone as knowledgeable on powerstrokes since diesel tech Ron 🙏 RIP.
He was my buddy RIP DTR 🙏
Knowledgeable man indeed! God always takes the good ones early
Great video. I have similar issue going on. P0087 fuel rail low on 2016. Rail at 15k demand is 26k. Pulled sensor on top of pump no shavings, replaced valve in back of rail and still same.
Thank u
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what do you think about the prevention disaster kit? Thanks in advance im a new subscriber.
This is exactly why I replace the fuel filters every oil change on my 2016 Ford F250 6.7 as well as filling up at the same place every time and running the archoil. People have told me oh fuel filters every oil change that's over kill. Even if so hey i'd much rather spend the extra $70.00 or so and the at most 15 min to replace the filters than have to deal with the heart ache of this mess not to mention any more the months wait it takes to get parts these days! Keep up the good work bud!
Wow. Well done. Good video. Had this exact problem on a 2012 F550. Pulled my hair out too. P228F-00 code. Symptom engine idle fine, rev engine, or run at high idle and disengage high idle, fuel pressure would spike the drop enough for engine to die, usually under 2000 psi. Changed MPROM, no fix, changed PCV no fix, changed FP sensor no fix. Finally got from Ford exactly what you found. “orfice has become dislodged” this orfice is used to create the correct pressure differential between main fuel rail pressure and PCV side of rail. Ford fix is to replace entire DS fuel rail as orfice is not repairable. Fixed my problem. Hooray! Cool thing is Ford sells entire rail including both FP sensor and PCV for less than the 2 combined.
Wow great video
After reading these comments I'm going to sell mine in the morning
['21 F350] I experienced the P0087, ie I couldn't develop adequate fuel pressure at WOT and I tracked the problem down to a tiny nick at the edge of a (new) fuel pressure regulator. The truck would idle, even drive OK, but at WOT it would throw the code. Since you replaced the regulator and it did not resolve the problem, I would inspect the threads (mating) side of the tube for any irregularity. This part of the system has extremely low tolerances as you mentioned.
I've been pretty successful with just cranking that sensor down by hand without any issues. Nor have I used any torque spec or torquing sequence as recommended. The biggest thing is it just really needs to be tight. If I have any issues at any point doing that method I will come back and comment otherwise.
ARod-regarding the orifice, take a look at your Ford 6.7 Coffee Table Book. In the Fuel Management System subsection, under the Fuel System section, it talks about an orifice in close proximity to the diverter volume area, which I think is near the front of the rail. Here’s the verbiage “From the diverter volume area, fuel goes through an orifice to supply the left fuel rail and through a high pressure fuel line over to the right fuel rail.”
Sonava bean! I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT! THANKS PAL!!!
Was getting code P228F. Truck started stalling at low idle. Swapped in a new Fuel Pressure Regulator (Ford p/n CM 5185) on the end of the rail and fixed my issue. 20 minute job. The longest part was taking out the wheel well to gain access.
Thanks for your comment. I am getting the same code P228F (fuel pressure regulator exceed max relearn). I am going to replace that sensor to repair the truck. Any advise on how to replace that sensor?
Replace the rail...
havent had to replace mine. 2013 with 72k I am very picky with where I fuel up, and I do put in opti-lube every fill up. great vid man!!
Thanks pal, appreciate ya watchin!
I found the orfice in my 2011 6.7l driver's side rail. Closer to the forward sensor end of rail.
Yepp
I think Ford should put the DEF fill on the other side of the truck, this would help with any mistakes and confusion, of course I know they won’t, great video sir 👍😁
I agree with you on that. GM puts it under the hood. People are distracted. Make it hard for them to mess up.
Hell no, gm did that and it's stupid, a real pain to fill when the Def nozzle is by the diesel pump nozzle. Filled Def tanks many times, have yet to get Def in the diesel tank.
Can't believe I missed this episode! Past two weeks, I've been binge watching & learning about the CP4 cause I'm worried about it coming apart and costing me thousands! Time for Arod to educate me on the deal. Press play...
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Wouldnt this be related to emissions warranty?
Had 2017 F 750 the last few days it die going down the road and blew the return line t off no codes would t start after repairing the return line found it had # 5 injector check all the normal stuff like you said blocked off injectors one at a time and tried to start it when got to number 5 it ran got it all back together no codes and was running good sent truck out and it would go into power loss mode it was loosing fuel pressure replaced the sensor and regulator and fixed it first time messing either one so it was learning curve
I change my fuel filters out every 12-14,000 miles. Seen it says 22k but after 12-14 filters pretty dark,even with high volume fuel,in part for piece of mind and In part to just keep filters fresh,filters like $58.
I also use Fords fuel additive pm-22
Half bot every tank!!! Good rule of 👍👍👍
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yes sir, gotten to the point where I buy it by the gallon and measure it out
Great Video ARod . Learning more every time I see one of your video's. Enjoy the talk we had with you all tonight.
Thanks buddy!!!!! We'll get ya on here agaim
Not sure if it’s the orifice you are talking about, but where the lines screw on the rail there are small orifices there.
No part of the rail itself
ARod, you need to get a band saw for all these parts your cutting open, nice see what's going on inside these components when they fail. Great job on the videos
Lol, thats the only time i cut somethin open
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod You did a trans cooler and there's so many more parts to go
I have a 2016 F-550 Flatbed that the HPFS failed at 54,800 miles. Always dealer serviced, fuel station turns their fuel regularly. Ford covered the repairs under warranty especially after I took my own fuel samples and e-mailed them the results showing the fuel was clean. After 2 months at the dealership getting this truck repaired it went back 1 week later for the valve cover gaskets leaking. 1 week after that the timing chain cover started leaking. Before that it was the upper oil pan leaking, lower turbo boot blew off and a few other issues. Sorry but I'll never buy another 6.7L diesel again. I'm going back to a gas engine on my next truck. I always enjoy your videos though btw.
Thanks vince🤝🤝
They should have seen all that when they had the cab off from doing the first job. Don’t believe it all started leaking that badly so soon all of A sudden
Mine quit me taking off from a traffic light. Metal was everywhere when I pulled the VCV. Mailed fuel to a lab, and they said the it was just fine. Servicing dealer refused to do any failure analysis on the cores, so I have no clue what smoked mine. I add PM22A (buy it in gallon jug)at every fuel stop, fill up at a place with rapid tank turnover, Motorcraft fuel filters every other oil change, and check the water separator regularly, and never found any. Monthly payments on the pump and injector job are bigger than they were for the rest of the truck!
Missed this last night but this is good stuff for sure. Everyone loves dissection. 👍🏻
Thanks pal!
This is the best video on the internet about the CP4 problems!
Hell yeah brothaaaaa
just had a 2020 6.7 powerstroke come through after the owner filled up the truck with diesel and then put 2-3 gallons of def in the diesel tank, ran it for a couple minutes then realized what he did and immediately shut it off.. long story short dropped the tank drained fuel, opened tank up and mopped up the little def crystals best we could, dropped both fuel filters, ran clean diesel through the system and caught it in a bucket from fuel tank return line, dropped those new filters and put on another 2 new filters, filled tank up with 5-10 gallons of clean diesel, cranked on first try, since then it has about 2k miles and has been running fine since
Great video. Got a 2015 6.7 and about once every 2 days I'll get the p228 that says fuel rail pressure sensor learning limits exceeded. Demand vs Actual are right on. You are the 2nd video I've seen where they replaced the driver rail and problem solved. Looks like I'm gonna get a fuel rail and some HP lines. Thanks!
Mine just got that code but it's running fine . Should I still replace the driver rail ? And can I still drive it ?
I duno we'd have to go over it
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod idk it's running fine right now only thing I notice is the engine light is on but I'm parking it until I take it to a shop,, I don't wanna run it and make it worse
Ok
@@TNTS8105 did you get it fixed. I got the same code.
I may have to replace my fuel system. Hopefully not, but I have the dreaded p0087 code. Truck starts right up, idling sounds good, and it seems to drive fine. But it keeps giving me the reduced power code. May try swapping the sensor first, but if that doesn’t work, it’s going to the shop where I’ll probably need to replace the whole fuel system.😢
Could be the fuel rail.
Man I’ve been messing with mine now for a minute P0088, P0087 I checked the fuel filter also pulled the regulator (no metal in or on either) I replaced the regulator and the P0088 code went away but I still have P0087 so I back tracked to the fuel pump and found a leak replaced that fuel pump (it was shot) and still have the P0087😞 the only loss I get is just at start up
HP pump & driver side rail...
My CP-3 took a dump metal shavings in tank , both filters, return fuel line they were all replaced
This has been very helpful.
However I have a 2011 6.7 with a p228e code and crank no start I’m at a loss.
What size wrench/crows foot is the pressure control valve?
Not really confirmed but my trucks injector lines are constantly buzzing like it’s always priming when I turn my key on. Could a bad fuel rail cause this issue? It also defuels at WOT.
Air bud
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod I cannot find the source. I’ve tried new filters. New water separator cap. And no luck. Can’t find any leaks either
The orifice could be built into the solenoid valve itself.
Dope video my man! Also, big shoutout to that zc-20 on the bench. That stuff is tha shizzzz!
Wooowooo, thanks 4 watchin playerrr
Three days after adding some anti gelling additive we had a die and no start with p2291 code. Had zero issues before hand.
I highly doubt it was from the additive
I just installed an SPE distaster kit on my 6.7 and immediately got a no start, primed the system per instructions, still no start. Towed to the dealer and got the classic "Bad Fuel," told that I need an entire new fuel system and of coarse Ford will not cover it, 67k miles, out of warranty. I then took off the SPE kit, put everything back like it was, still no start. Screwed in a State that I do not live
SPE is garbage
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod what really? I just watched one of you previous videos complementing them on their external ccv catch can and ccv reroute kit. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Yea!!! And since then, it got thrown out. Their service & company, well buddy im not hear to slander. I thought it was good......key word thought. I wouldn't want you all to go thru the debacle of dealing with SPE...regardless of their interdepartmental problems that are going on right now...covid, their personal issues, blah blah blah. I AM UNDERSTANDING but when you do not reciprocate back & on top of everything else i hear from other people who have used them....brother I do not have time for that.....enough is enough. I'll sell my truck be4 I put their products on my truck
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
Well, their customer service does seem to be lacking. Only recently delt with them on a ccv reroute. I honestly feel they make a good product from what I've seen, other then that, I have read more bad then good. Some people and companies don't truly understand the importance of customer care and service along with a quality product.
@Volastod I just had the exact same thing happen , did you get anything figured out? I’m still looking for an answer for mine. Thanks.
And you know this man..
I'm experiencing this now. I always change fuel filters when I change oil. Inspect filters fuel and oil. Never seen any debris before. Now the complete system. I have 178k on truck and am 2nd owner my brother was the original owner. Wlways been serviced at regular intervals.
Sorry pal...
My truck just stopped on the way to work. Quoted 14,956.87 to replace with another CP4.2 and new injectors and all the other stuff that’s in the kit. They said they would give a 2 year warranty unlimited miles. My question should I do this or do the DCR conversion ? With no warranty.. I hate this the truck is gonna sit for a while maybe a year !
Never heard or a Orifice on the fuel rail on a 6.7 that would be crazy if they put one there because of fuel pressures.
As you open one up it's not there.
Post if you find answer.
Thanks
Its there trust me
Hey , just checking if you ever found an orfice.
I spoke to several ford mechanics they said they have not heard or ever seen any kind of orfice on the fuel rail.
Yes it's there. It's INTERNAL to the rail
Nice know i see how it really works learn soemthing new everyday.
Great video A-Rod, thank you for the information covered in the video...
Yea I have, on the three time now. Mechanic couldn’t fix it last time. He replaced injectors but only cleaned rail. I’m pissed. Runs at idle rough at times and then cleans up intermittently.
help rod do you ever do you have video on changing the cp4 pump and injectors the kit
Yea
Is their a specific test or procedure to troubleshoot the fuel rail? Perform all of the pinpoint diagnostics for fault P0087 and everything is checking within specs. FVCV has been replaced, FPCV and FRP sensors have been replaced by another shop. Went through diag three times to make sure a step wasn’t skipped and still the same results. Thanks
Time for a rail pal!
Hello, I would like you to help me. I have a question. Can one of those pumps be destroyed and cause the engine not to turn with the starter motor?
Yes
Hey Arod I have a 2013 f250 and I originally had a P026a and P0087 together. The P0087 code went away on its own and never came back, and i have since replaced the charge air intercooler and gotten rid of the P026a code. But currently I have a P228f code and it is intermittent it comes and goes, but mostly trips CEL and comes on. What are your thoughts brother? Truck has 210k miles currently.
I'd be doing the DCR & a driver side rail
There's a recall on some 2020/21 6.7's for the left hand fuel rail due to possible dislodging of the orifice, as you've described. Fsa 20b41.
Pays half decent too lol. Especially nice if they don't have the noise isolator covers on
Yeppppp
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Hey so I've got a head scratcher..
2020 f350 6.7 throwing p0191. Power balance looks like a literal sine wave. Falls on its face soon as frp commands above 20k psi, at which point actual falls to about 10k below desired. Fails last pressure stage of hp fuel system tests incapable of reaching 25k psi.
Parts replaced:
High pressure fuel system, engine harness, ckp, cmp, pcm, bjb, lift pump, disconnected all inputs while engine running, no difference. Disconnected alternators, disconnected power invertor.
No other codes. The sine wave power balance accompanied with severe loping idle has me believing it could be rfi. I know there was a tsb for injector issues caused by interference when certain components are plugged into rear charging port.
Supply pressure is good. All tables and iqa's have been reset. Fuel is clean. Relative compression is straight. No pid's appear out of wack. Another reason I suspect rfi. Injector mass pids are all equally pulling fuel and bouncing at the far left of the screen.
You have any ideas? Ever seen anything like that with a sine wave power balance?
you answered my fuel rail mystery.
What is the cost on all these parts?I could do that work myself.I imagine except the reprogram the injectors.I can get someone to program the injectors
That was a good vid. I agree, I really didn't think the Bosch CP4 pump is a bad piece. It was always about the fuel & possible contamination. Problem is we can't always control the fuel we buy, hoping it's good quality. My truck is a 13 with 200K on it. If my CP4 grenades, I'm not sure I'm spending 11K on a fuel system even though it's still a nice truck, Maybe it's a Platinum, Okay I would, but It would be nice if that SPE kit does what it claims, that's cheap insurance & it's Plug & Play. Always great content from Arod, I appreciate you sharing your craft with us!!
Thanks budddddy!!!
It's not a bad design? Faults! Ram and GM never had these issues with the cp3. Since GM went to a different pump they longer have this catastrophic failure.
Surely with what these trucks cost now ford should have no problem finding a better pump and design.
I need help with my 2015 f250 Diesel 6.7
Email us for an appointment.
Hi I have questions for you 2016 F550 6.7 code P2291 and no dirt in the Hi pump
Ok
So what do you think ?
Gonna need way more info & ur gonna have to get in line. Set up an appt.
I have a question I'm working on a 6.7 and my pressure on the high side is at 3,000 to 4,000 then it drops and truck turns off...on the high way at 70mph pressure is at 22,500 psi... it wont stay running at idle
Dannnnnng
I have a 4-5 second long crank with code p228f and on idle it has like a fuel knock but once you rev it the fuel knock goes away . Any ideas if that regulator would cause that ?
hi, my truck its show me a oil light, and the code p2291 i change my oil and filter, and still not start, its possible if i have low pressure oil the truck will not start???? thanks
U want diag, gotta pay. Powerstroketechtalkwarod@gmail.com
I got a 2012 f350 with 123k miles. fully deleted with a mini max . My Fuel pressure drops down to 2.5 Ksi when I release the throttle, and low power when accelerating. Probably 5k miles ago I replaced the fuel pressure regulator( the one on the rail) because it would drop off like this, but still had good acceleration. Changing that part made the truck run great till now. Going to change fuel filters first, and I’ll open the cp4 regulator this weekend. Really hoping I don’t see metal. Past this I’ll need someone to check actual and called for pressure since I don’t know if my tuner is 100% accurate on the readings.
I just replaced my whole fuel system I was hauling my living quarters horse trailer and cracked my cp4 clean in half but it still throws p0087 once I get on it it’s got a turbo piping kit and a couple other goodies
what should the fuel rail pressure be with key on engine off. mine shows 459 psi, even after the low pressure pump has shut off.
What do YOU think it shld be??
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod either 0 or low fuel pressure 50 to 70psi would be my guess
How can there be any HP fuel if the engine isn't running...??
What about a p228F/p01c6. Could this be related to a bad FPR? Ive replaced to front sensor and the code keeps coming up.
Glad I found you! This video is exactly what I'm dealing with. I just bought a used good condition 2019 6.7L F250. The truck ran great until I put the S&S CP4 disaster prevention kit on. After putting the kit on, the truck ran for 30 seconds, then burped and chugged and died and hasn't started since. It's throwing the P2291 code. I've double and triple checked the S&S install and plumbing and everything is as it should be. I'm getting fuel through the entire low pressure system and even cracked a supply nut on the driver side fuel rail with the key on and got good flow out of the fuel rail. There was no metal glitter paint found during the install. What are the chances one of these other high pressure fuel components went out at the same time? Help!
Brother, I've done multiple kits & have not 1 issue. I dunno whatcha did....
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Got it. Bummer. I'll circle back to the install. Thanks.
Did you ever find the issue?
I just installed the same kit yesterday and now it keeps stalling at low idle. Any updates on your issue?
You did somethin wrong
My fuel injector pipe just blew open on the highway. Cylinder #3. Aftermarket ebay part used. No light's or codes. Always buy OEM!
Has no one made a upgraded cp4/cp4.2 yet? Seems like someone would have !
Get RID of that garbage CP4 & use S&S's new DCR pump!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yeah I was hoping for something new not from ford.
So it’s good to buy cp4 filter like , S & S diesel . Another question I have 2017 , in your opinion, I have been think of delete the def system , would recommend to do it
In the process of changing my fuel system,cp4 pump failure .just spent the money today $3531.00 local ford dealership and I'm doing this my self,not a truck mechanic I'm a field service heavy equipment mechanic 👍
2013 true cab/chassis used for personal use only 4wd crew cab looks like to much fun
Good deal 👍
What will cause a truck to shut down intermittently with a code for loss of fuel
what is your opinion of AMS OIL diesel fuel Products?
Amsoil oil Archoil fuel
I have a P228F, P0170, and multiple cyl contribution /balance codes. Truck ran fine, thought engine blew. Sat 2 yrs, then found starter messed up. Put new starter and batteries on, started up and ran fine. Ran for 2 weeks, then suddenly started studdering and quit. Hasn't run since. Threw those codes. Changed filters, dropped and cleaned tank, pulled cpr4 valve and it was as clean as can be. No rust, no flakes. Still stuck with a 100k mile truck not knowing what to do. Everyone saying fuel system at $10k to fix. Haven't found anything to justify doing that.
New CP4 or S&S new DCR & replace the LH rail, trust me
I am getting code p228f exceeded learning limits pressure too high along with long cranks. 2-3 sec, vs normal of almost immediate.
Ok
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod Sorry at the time I meant to add more details and hit send anyways. I pulled the valve on the top of the pump as you suggested. There is a tiny amount of metal shavings I have a close up pic if I can share it with you via email. I drove it with the long cranks about 12 times before parking it. Is there a chance I can replace just the pump, or is any amount of shavings grounds for full fuel system replacement?
Any metal? It's. Time? To replace everything unfortunately but it would have been nice if you had the s n s disaster prevention kit on it
I had a truck f 250 years 2020 had that problem and I need someone to help me to change those part
Ok
Doing first one in F-550 2013 just neglected over 2 yrs. 25 pax mini bis 185K miles
ARod, yes we have had this failure and caught it before the engine was damaged. HOWEVER the entire fuel system has now been replaced (New CP4, metering valve, lines, rails, injectors, low pressure pump. Everything in the fuel system is brand new) and it runs in park or neutral but a couple minutes in drive. Commanded fuel pressure will spike, the actual pressure is correct but the difference trips the low fuel pressure code and sends it to reduced power mode P0087 code. Any ideas??
Replaced my PCV and now truck dies while driving. PA0093 code. Could it be that I didn’t tighten it enough ?
Blowing my mind🤯
Love my 6.7s big bro
Question have a 2017 #7 line has a slow drip ordered it was going to change it myself but really is looking complicated
Ok
Cp4 just went on my 2017, up here in Canada the dealer wants $25,000 to replace entire system, and can’t get to it for another 2 months. I see kits online for this but is it possible for a backyard mechanic to do this?
Yes absolutely
Go tow a ridiculously big boat to the landing . Set park brake half way down and run 😅
How do you depressurize the fuel rail before working on it?
Shut the truck down...by the time you get to any lines....shits gone
Nice thank you sir I watch all your videos and I wish you were closer I'd take my truck to you I really just don't trust people these days, I've had a so called diesel master mechanic at a 4 dealership work on my 6.0 bingo and stripped stripped every 8 mm bolt there was while Tearing it down to get to one injector replacement because they decided to use an impact gun and cross threaded them👎
Have you gotten to do the 20B41 recall? Left fuel rail replacement on 2020s. Interesting little twist to those one time use fuel lines.
Lololol i know right. I have not
We had one in stock unit I got the pleasure of doing it on. Wasn’t to bad.
They not bad at all
I love cuttin into stuff to investigate...
Thanks for dropping g the knowledge bro
Hey man I work at a fleet with a lot of these 6.7 running around and I’ve learned a lot from watching your videos, just did a 2020 fuel system replacement from DEF and you got me curious with that rail and I did find the orifice and it is on the other side of the rail after the line that feeds the passenger side rail and makes sense to me it’s there cuz I’ve always wondered how the passenger side doesn’t get starved with fuel
Wow, email me some pics!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod sure thing, still have it sitting out on a bench I’ll do that on Monday
What are the symptoms when it fails? I got one throwing p0093.
Warning lights...reduced power....no start......etc
Can you see any codes thrown without prior symptoms? I.e . Slow roll failure?
Shows us a pcv install pls
Great video!! Question for you. Have you ever come across an issue with the fuel return lines blowing off the plastic fittings at the injectors? I’m working on a 6.7 that has an issue blowing return lines off . I thought it was a restriction at first so I blow the lines out from the injectors to the tank . I also swapped out the injectors that the hoses are blowing off the fittings with known good injectors. The return line assembly is also new . The problem only happens under hard acceleration or heavy engine load. At idle it’s fine. No other drivability issues.
Time for a fuel sys pal
Hi, I am having the same issue with only one return line blowing off. Did you find the problem ?
U have high restriction in fuel return side
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod How do I test/trace the restriction. It happened right after installing new/reman fuel system . Truck starts but when press the gas rapidly bogs down .
@Ioang40 pinpoint tests M & ME
We’ve had two trucks in our fleet need whole fuel systems. One was from a guy putting def in. Ruined everything. Other was water contamination took out the whole system.
This would be one cool JB Weld experiment… dare ya
Could you demonstrate How to look at that sensor when pulling off the intake? My 2013 is giving me code : P228F and I’m not sure if I have to replace the whole fuel system or just the fuel rail with pressure sensor at the end . Please help thank you
You will ha e 2 mail us to bookcsome diag time
i have a 2014 f-350 6.7l powerstroke. my actual fuel rail pressure reaches 10k psi before i get an engine derate power warning, my desired and commanded are both at 4800-5000 yet it builds up to 10k. at full throttle and varying throttle desired and actual are perfectly in sync after i get the derate warning. also throws code p0088. any help would be appreciated
To get diag you will have to pay for my time. There's no magic fix with these trucks....
@PowerStroke Tech Talk w/ARod how much for tips or pointers?
My email is all over my channel...descriptions...about page. Meet up over there
I have personally had this exact same issue. 3 shops tried to fix it but only after me doing some looking in to had the fuel preasure regulator replace to fix the problem. while under load and only under load my truck would go into limp mode and then I had to reset the dtc's to get it to work again.
Mine failed in June of this year. Truck had 315k miles on it when it failed. Mechanic said the CP4.2 had fail from age. I wish it would have been water or def. I was told insurance would have covered the repair if that was the case. Repair ended up running me about 10k out of pocket.
Cani just replace the pump on a pump failure
Be more specific...
"Oh, he going to cry in the car."
When he finds out the cost of a fuel system repair bill!
How often should I replace both fuel filters? I only do highway driving no towing. I'm at 8k miles right now
Every 15k!🤨
Getting p228f code truck idles fine, no power to pull its self though. I see most of your replies to p228f are to replace the ds fuel rail, is this cause by the cp4 going bad is replacing the rail going to completely fix my issue. Is it the start of a complete fuel system failure or will I be done back on the road.
Rail & pump combo, trust me
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod replace the just pump and rail. Or should I do a full contamination kit?
Is it currently running then no
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod yes it was still running when I parked it. Just doesn’t have much power. Won’t move over 45 mph and coding for p228f. I will start with replacing pump and fuel rail. Thank you!!
@@TheRockStar129did it work?? Rail and pump combo … I’m getting ready to do it!!!!!
Hey ARod we have a fleet of F550's and one of the 2018 is getting a reoccurring fault code for multiple fuel injector learning limit exceeded, runs fine other than slight fuel knock occasionally at idle, have you seen this before ? Should i take the VCV out and inspect . Thanks
Did you try resetting the mid mass fuel adaptations for all cylinders
yes we have and also has the latest pcm update @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
Are all of the IQ a numbers programmed
yes they all match @@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
@user-rx7sw7si8e hmmmmmm
Does anyone know if a bad fuel volume control valve will still give good fuel pressure reading in the high pressure fuel pump? My fuel volume control valve is only opening up at 26% duty cycle and at WOT 31%...seems stuck to me but fuel pressure is on target to what my fuel pressure is commanding?
Have you seen any pump failures that didn’t result in metal shavings? I’m trying to diagnose a truck right now, fuel pressure regulator is good and holding, VCV made a rattle noise when you shake it so I replaced that (new one doesn’t rattle) I’m getting zero pressure on the rail. Lift pump is giving me 80psi. Checked rail pressure with a gauge and still nothing. Lower filter had some nasty water in it from a bed fuel tank. Flushed fuel tank with fresh fuel.
Sounds like you need to go thru the M & ME pin point tests....
Fuel question.... 2012 f250, at cruising speed long distances I started to get a (slight but definitely noticeable) hesitation/miss... bought the better mprop sensor, pulled the old out, clean as a whistle, installed the better one... truck did great idling and around the neighborhood, drove 30 miles to work and it started missing horribly about 2 miles out, got to work and truck was surging so bad, it was shaking (like it had a big cam), pulled up fuel map and it was constient waves across the map... no codes whatsoever. 2012 deleted, filters less than 2k miles. Thoughts where to start??
Any suggestions, greatly appreciated
Gotta email me & book some time pal. Content is for FREE, time is not.
Great video! I’m trying to replace my 6.7 fuel rail pressure sensor, any advise on the torque for it ?
Snug that some bitch down fella
So changing fuel filters isn’t a bad thing. On my 2016 i only use motorcraft filters and change them every 15,000 miles. Which is every other oil change.
Excellent!
I have replaced all 8 fuel injectors on my customer 2017 f450 truck and tried to programm it with IDS but at the end of coding IDS shows "procedure unsuccessful". What you think could be wrong or any special sequence for coding? Thanks.
Alread answered
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2012 6.7 f350 king ranch, I noticed glitter in the main filter bowl at 290k miles, had a shop replace the entire system with Fords contamination kit, at 370k miles I got my first issue, low engine power, 0087 code and then engine stalled and would not restart. I traded my truck in for a 17' model, now wondering if I should try to buy it back to fix it and sell for 4-6k more than the trade value at 8500, please advise if you think this is a good idea or not and cut my 10k loss that I spent on the fuel system in November 2020, thanks in advance
Powerstroketechtalkwarod@gmail.com
I changed mine about a year and half. Not sure what the problem was. I just bought the truck used and about 6 months it went down on the freeway. It was the fuel pump failure. I was able to do it all myself. Cost me around 5k after I put a airdog and damage prevention on it. No I have a p0278 and p0284 codes. I changed the vacuum pump today cause I had no brakes. All this happened the same time. I had gas in my fuel so I drained tank and changed all fuel filters and changed oil. I was getting contribution balance on all cylinders and now it's just on 6 and 8. Any ideas?
What is ford's recommended fuel additive or do they offer. Lastly what do you use , how much and when. Thanks so much for your info...GOLDEN!!👍👍👍👍👍
Hey check out our podcast....we talk about it!!🙋♂️
IMO there are better additives then what ford puts out. I'd put money on a couple different brands over what ford recommends, one being optilube, XPD.
Yupp
I think the only one that has an office is the beginning years the other one comes built on to the sensor , could have it backwards
I got one the pump looks good and losing pressure and returning to Tank , supplied power and ground to both sensors to close return and still bypasses to return system
They all have 1
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod have you ever had those high-pressure pumps no metal no scarring on the pumps when you take it apart and still not produce pressure , I have one that I opening the pump can’t find nothing wrong with it wired both sensors up to deadhead pump pressure and still cannot produce 50 psi , and bypasses to the return
Yes
Hi. On a 2014 f350 it's hard to start or no start and if I use starter fluid runs good but when I turn it off I can't turn it on till I use starter fluid. Ani advice thanks
You will have to email & book some time
So if I’m getting 4300 + psi I shouldn’t look toward the cp4 ?? I’m about 100 to 150 psi difference from desired truck started with issue with 3300 psi replaced filters and pump 1st time we had 4300 lowest and 28999 highest and week later came back i replaced sending unit and pressure sensor test drove it and light popped back up I’m leaning toward control valve
Driver side rail bub...
I manage a fleet of work trucks, almost all 6.7's. Had two fuel systems replaced in the last two years. One had fuel from a fuel cell (which probably had the cap left off for awhile) which contaminated it. On the other truck we were told that the fuel looked fine at the time they pulled it apart but the system was compromised from a previous fill up. I suspect DEF was put in that one. We don't use any additives, but that's the direction I'm heading, those repairs hit out budgets hard. Any suggestions on fuel additives and how frequent they should be used?
Every TANK...motorcraft pm22 & pm23. EVERY TANK!
What about a p228f code would it be the fpr or anything else that you may have seen?
Rail or pump