There aren't a lot of channels like you on youtube. Probably because doing this kind of thing takes a lot of time and goes into the details that don't interest popular users. I'm not one of them. As the age of PC gaming/multitasking, we need to measure exactly what we could get for the money we spent. And that's not only the thing that we can see clearly from the outside or just via a quick look (aesthetics, build structure, etc). We need to know about real performance and stability of powerful machines like high-end laptops, that could only be reflected by testing carefully every single trait like what you're doing right now. It affects to these things very much, especially about long-term using, durability over time, capability for tasks in the future. Keep up the good work man.
Agreed! Would love to see simple min:max thermal comparison of popular laptops. Searching for laptop with low temperature. Dont need very high specs but a decent one so processor dont run hot.
This CPU is getting very hot in demanding games. This is a tutorial for all laptops using intel but the settings should be different from one CPU to other. The reason is the Turbo Boost mode of the cpu. This mode allow the CPU to reach for a limited time higher clock speeds than the base clock. The build in control is telling the CPU to lower the frequency if the CPU temperature exceed 90 * C or more. Usually in games like BFV or benchmarks the CPU boost the frequency and the temp is getting very high. This cause a slow down instead of a better performance. This machine can do much better if you do next: AA) - install first “Intel extreme tuning utility”. - reduce the core voltage offset ( I found that -0.150v is best for stability ). - set the Turbo boost short power max to 65 W and turbo boost power max to 54 W. ( I found that this are best settings after many try and research on Intel CPU factory info.) After this settings save the profile and every time you restart the laptop make sure you will load same profile. You can use Cinebench 2.0 and test your results with this settings and without to see how big is the difference. This settings are kind a sweep point (best performance without compromising safety) . If you like more safety you can reduce more the power values. Everything said should increase the performance about 25 % and decrease the CPU temp below 85*C if using cooling properly. BB) If all above seems hard for you, than there is another simple method to reduce the temperature of the CPU. Go to Control Panel>Power Option>Change Plan Settings>change advanced power settings>processor power management>maximum processor state Here you have to change from 100% to 99% when plugged in. This will not allow CPU to go in turbo boost mode! The cpu temp will not exceed this way 65-70*C and the difference in BFV in frame rate is very small ... 5 -7 FPS compared with max power. Have a nice day and hope this will work for everybody reading this!
Good review Jarrod. I know you don't track pricing, so pricing aside, if you had a choice of which 2070 laptop to get right now, based on max FPS gaming only, what would be your personal preference?
You deserve 20m subs and believe me you will have them I've followed mkbhd on his beginning .... Suddenly everyone will know how gr8 your videos are, just wait. Just allow me to advise you something Look when you make similar video please separate the cons and pros Add them in description Edit the video for them Don't get me wrong i watch the whole thing but alot of lazy people they just wanna get cons and pros. Also PLEASE KEEP ON BEING HONEST just like now never to accept any company if they want you to advertise them and hide thier cons Thank you so much
Amazing video quality here. I appreciate the extensive work here. Just got my GE65 with 2070 and 9750. I've been tweaking with throttle stop all day today, looking for that sweet spot. Are there any throttlestop tips you'd recommend beyond this video you'd recommend me ? I'm currently at -150 -130 and TPL was default at 200 and 200. I noticed several others online showed different default TPL values, was wondering what you'd recommend there.
Thanks! To be honest I'm by no means a pro undervolter, I haven't even finely-tuned this I just did some quick settings for the video. I suggest you check out Bob of all trades TH-cam channel as he has plenty of good undervolting guides with throttlestop 👍
Overall which is better for Video Editing/ Rendering. 1) MSI GE65 Raider - 432 or 2) ACER Predator Helios 300 or 3) ACER Nitro 7 or 4) Lenovo Y540. looking for 144Hz and accurate color with GTX 1060ti. Seem like all have Heat Dissipation problems and some with CPU Throttling. Also heard some have Battery and Charger "Block" goes bad. RANK these 4 laptops please. I really like the Acer Predator but said to have many problems and also not favorable in ordering from Amazon due to Restricted Policies and cost to Restock if Bad. -The Nitro 7 said to be better than Nitro 5 but still runs very Hot, Red backlit keyboard not great, dull and hurts eyes if turned Off can't see Keyboard Lettering . - Lenovo Y540 bit more expensive and it has all plastic chassis and poorer screen than those I've listed above. Starting to favor the MSI GE65, however you stated some minor heat issue and lesser CPU function, also tweaking -under voltage CPU. - what about getting to and over 300 NITS.? I appreciate your kind response. Many great Review you have. Getting bored with Linus Tech as his reviews are often mixed and unclear, Linus is just money hungry and shows a lot of things most consumers cannot afford. Thanks Jarod as your more to earth and understandable !!!
I have reviews on all of them with Adobe Premiere results so you should be able to see, also have screen brightness and colour gamut results in the review videos. I'd probably get Y540 or Helios 300 as my highest options, but would prefer Y540 for the reasons covered in this comparison: th-cam.com/video/pyggQzZmM4I/w-d-xo.html
@@JarrodsTech daughter went with Predator 75DE that has RTX 2060 for $1,299 also include 4 yr warranty and tax total cost just over $1,600 from Amazon.com. I thought the Y540 looked awesome however limit on upgradability. I suppose my daughter fancied about having ability to change keyboard colors. At 25 yrs old she gotten to listen less what Dad has to tell her … we'll see if she is happy or wished she had listened to the old man.(be 60 this yr.) But appears the Predator is an excellent choice even though MSRP hasn't really dropped any since June / July 2019. Hard to find them too ..Supply and Demand. Looks like ACER stopped production on 15.6 inch and staying with 17.3 in laptops for Predator here in 2020. go to Acer store and Blah ..where are all the products? Thank you Jarrod for your quick response. Wish you the best in life and much success.
I had a question about undervolting if I look at it it sounds like there a only positive things are there any negatiefs about it, and one more thing is it possible for laptops to undervolt while in eco mode?
Negatives are only if you push it too far, instability can cause random program crashes or blue screens. Once it's stable then no issues, only improvements.
Thanks, I've already reviewed the GE65 (link in description). Slightly different spec yes, but most companies do not send out the same laptop with a slightly different component change so I will probably never get it, also hard to justify spending a week doing another full review just for one component change. 9SD is just 1660 Ti model yeah? You could see the performance/thermal difference in my 1660 Ti vs 2060 video.
@@JarrodsTech Hi, please I saw you commenting to others helping decide. I am thinking about buying MSI GE65. Could you please give me an advice ? Would you buy this notebook (like MSI GE65 Raider 9SF-030CZ or MSI GE75 Raider 9SG-642CZ) in regard of thermals ? Or would you buy something else in this price range (cca up to 2k €) what has better thermals ? Thank you very much for reply !
Hello, I have a query, I am in a dilemma since I do not know whether to buy a msigf65 with a 2060 or a reconditioned msige65 with a 1660ti, there is no other difference between them and I found them at the same price, in advance thanks
I never owned a laptop nor monitored temps much, but I have this make/model and it's showing 154 degrees farenheit for GPU. Is this like way too hot or what?
I have a version 9SF with RTX2070 my cpu stays cool at ultra settings (around 70-75) while my gpu always goes as high as 86 degree(Cod war zone NBA2k20 even GTAV creeping towards 86). Laptop is 3 month old. Any tips ?
I really like your channel, very helpful and informative. Actully, if possible to compare between the new Asus TUF A15 with MSI GF65 ( when both have 16 gp ram)
Awesome review as always. I think I speak for everyone when I say we gain some valuable knowledge from you. In your opinion, is it worth getting an RTX 2070 over a GTX 1660ti? My main purpose is video editing so no need for Ray tracing but I do use after effects occasionally and some general effects with Premier Pro. Specifically I'm looking at the Aero 15 Oled i7 with 1660ti over the 2070. I look forward to your reply ✌️
Cheers! To be honest I think a 2070 is wasted for the money with premiere. In my experience as long as you have some form of mid range Nvidia GPU there's diminishing returns in most cases by going higher. If I was buying a 4K video editing laptop today, I'd probably go the 1660 Ti as it's a great sweet spot for the money.
Not sure if you will see this now but I have this laptop and during gaming on medium settings with sport shift it hits around 90 degrees constantly with a cooling pad and it's pretty loud most the time. Anything I can do to help this
I couldn't undervolt my laptop at 0.15 without it crashing and I have the msi ge65 raider, what's the reason you can and I can't? did you have to do anything special or does it really depend on laptop to laptop - even if it's the same one?
I don’t know if I should get the 1. Lenovo Legion Y540 2. Asus Rog Strix G G731GT 3.MSI GL65 I’ll be using It for Work stuff, Movies, Gmod, CSGO and some other games... Don’t want to spend too much since I primarily play Ps4. But need a Laptop that will fit my needs with no problem!
Jarrod'sTech Don’t worry 😂 I’m still deciding between the Lenovo Y540 Asus Rog GL53GT Asus TUF FX505DU I recently sold my HP Omen 15... personally I didn’t think i needed it, got a bit hot and noisy just watching TH-cam... But I’ve heard good reviews on these 3 laptops 1 and 3 I watched your reviews.
Msi looks to be performing better and better thermals as well and better keyboard compared to ROG .. i would suggest MSI even though it is slightly pricier...
We need new standard To measure performance and temperature! Fan noise of every laptop is different and because of that comparing cooling of them is not fear. I recommend make fan noise constant. Like have fan noise 40db for every laptop which one have fan control program. Also have more idea to make test more stable and comparable
Hi Jarrod, Can you or someone please advise me what's the difference between the GE65 and the GP65 Leopard (both with RTX 2060)? From what I've seen in the current Gen, they're identical!
To be honest, I do not know. MSI have a lot of options, some with very minimal variance. I haven't had the chance to test the GP65 out yet myself, but yeah it looks very similar from the pics.
@@JarrodsTech HI Jarrod, If you see this great 9.5 min review of the GP65 , maybe you could have a better understanding since u had the GE65. th-cam.com/video/5ntqk_IcaGo/w-d-xo.html Thanks,
Erthling the GP65 has a bigger size but a 144hz screen and a full plastic body whilst the GE65 has a 244hz screen, metal/plastic body and a more compact nicer design
Erthling personally I went for the GE65 because of the higher quality material, 244hz screen and a 15.6 inch size which Is easy to take around. It’s all your preference though
Hello guys I'm sorry but I have a question which is not related to the video, basically I have to choose between an Asus scar 2, scar 3 (both 2070 144hz models) and an Acer Triton 300 with a 1660ti (which, as I heard has some of the best thermals, much better than the scars) I live in Russia and there is only a small range of laptops available here and prices are wired too, so these are the only three models I can buy for the amount of money I have. By the way thank you Jarrod for another great video.
I haven't tested an Acer Triton 300 yet so I am not in a position to compare, I'm still waiting for Acer to lend me one. In terms of thermals I haven't compared the Scar II and III with the same specs either so I can't fairly compare those.
Up to you and your wallet, no real difference except 66 has better placed and more effective cooling tubes and it has stronger hinges, plus the design is better imo
The Y550 doesn't exist, so assuming you meant Y540, the main differences are the Y740 has Thunderbolt 3, G-Sync, and RGB lighting - so depends if you care about any of those.
Hi everyone, I'm planning to buy a decent gaming laptop. Please help me pick the better choice, Lenovo Y545 or MSI GL65? Both comes with i7 9750h and GTX 1660 TI. I'd really appreciate it!
Haven't tested the GL65 myself so I'd just be guessing, I'd lean towards the Lenovo over the MSI options though, but the Y540 over the 545 for the reasons mentioned in my recent comparison video,
@@JarrodsTech Hi Jarrod, thanks for your response. The thing is, y540 in Indonesia only comes with gtx1650. I thought you would pick MSI GL65 since the Y545 has thermal issue and it can't reach its maximum potential at 4 Ghz.
@@JarrodsTech ah I see. The Y545 also got better display color accuracy tho, compared to the GL65's. Anyway, thanks a lot Jarrod! Believe or not, you're the one I rely on whenever I hunt laptops! Cheers 🍻
not very, 35c is around 90F, and things dont really feel hot unless they're above body temp, which is 98.6. so 40c might be a bit warm but shouldn't be any issue other than maybe some sweat
My previous laptop was about 48c in the left palm rest. It felt like burning sensation. I would chose a hot throttling cpu over a hot palm rest anytime. Edit: said laptop was msi ge40 (2013)
Shahzad Shahzad MSI has the best cooling solution in the market, personally I bought the MSI GE65 Raider (Same as the video) and I’m loving it so far, sure the temps are a bit high but a cooling pad for 15-20$ and maybe some undervolting fixes that
For me stress full test for CPU and GPU if more than 85C then GTFO but in march 2020 I need choose new gaming laptop and still there almost nothing near what I want from gaming laptops. All company's save money on heatpipes and other cooling solution.
This CPU is getting very hot in demanding games. This is a tutorial for all laptops using intel but the settings should be different from one CPU to other. The reason is the Turbo Boost mode of the cpu. This mode allow the CPU to reach for a limited time higher clock speeds than the base clock. The build in control is telling the CPU to lower the frequency if the CPU temperature exceed 90 * C or more. Usually in games like BFV or benchmarks the CPU boost the frequency and the temp is getting very high. This cause a slow down instead of a better performance. This machine can do much better if you do next: AA) - install first “Intel extreme tuning utility”. - reduce the core voltage offset ( I found that -0.150v is best for stability ). - set the Turbo boost short power max to 65 W and turbo boost power max to 54 W. ( I found that this are best settings after many try and research on Intel CPU factory info.) After this settings save the profile and every time you restart the laptop make sure you will load same profile. You can use Cinebench 2.0 and test your results with this settings and without to see how big is the difference. This settings are kind a sweep point (best performance without compromising safety) . If you like more safety you can reduce more the power values. Everything said should increase the performance about 25 % and decrease the CPU temp below 85*C if using cooling properly. BB) If all above seems hard for you, than there is another simple method to reduce the temperature of the CPU. Go to Control Panel>Power Option>Change Plan Settings>change advanced power settings>processor power management>maximum processor state Here you have to change from 100% to 99% when plugged in. This will not allow CPU to go in turbo boost mode! The cpu temp will not exceed this way 65-70*C and the difference in BFV in frame rate is very small ... 5 -7 FPS compared with max power. Have a nice day and hope this will work for everybody reading this!
There aren't a lot of channels like you on youtube. Probably because doing this kind of thing takes a lot of time and goes into the details that don't interest popular users. I'm not one of them. As the age of PC gaming/multitasking, we need to measure exactly what we could get for the money we spent. And that's not only the thing that we can see clearly from the outside or just via a quick look (aesthetics, build structure, etc). We need to know about real performance and stability of powerful machines like high-end laptops, that could only be reflected by testing carefully every single trait like what you're doing right now. It affects to these things very much, especially about long-term using, durability over time, capability for tasks in the future.
Keep up the good work man.
Cheers mate!
Agreed! Would love to see simple min:max thermal comparison of popular laptops. Searching for laptop with low temperature. Dont need very high specs but a decent one so processor dont run hot.
Congrats on 120k subs!
Thanks!
This CPU is getting very hot in demanding games. This is a tutorial for all laptops using intel but the settings should be different from one CPU to other.
The reason is the Turbo Boost mode of the cpu. This mode allow the CPU to reach for a limited time higher clock speeds than the base clock. The build in control is telling the CPU to lower the frequency if the CPU temperature exceed 90 * C or more. Usually in games like BFV or benchmarks the CPU boost the frequency and the temp is getting very high. This cause a slow down instead of a better performance. This machine can do much better if you do next:
AA)
- install first “Intel extreme tuning utility”.
- reduce the core voltage offset ( I found that -0.150v is best for stability ).
- set the Turbo boost short power max to 65 W and turbo boost power max to 54 W. ( I found that this are best settings after many try and research on Intel CPU factory info.) After this settings save the profile and every time you restart the laptop make sure you will load same profile.
You can use Cinebench 2.0 and test your results with this settings and without to see how big is the difference. This settings are kind a sweep point (best performance without compromising safety) . If you like more safety you can reduce more the power values. Everything said should increase the performance about 25 % and decrease the CPU temp below 85*C if using cooling properly.
BB) If all above seems hard for you, than there is another simple method to reduce the temperature of the CPU.
Go to Control Panel>Power Option>Change Plan Settings>change advanced power settings>processor power management>maximum processor state
Here you have to change from 100% to 99% when plugged in. This will not allow CPU to go in turbo boost mode! The cpu temp will not exceed this way 65-70*C and the difference in BFV in frame rate is very small ... 5 -7 FPS compared with max power.
Have a nice day and hope this will work for everybody reading this!
Hi Jarrod! Could you make review video about MSI GL65 too??
I've been trying to get a GL laptop from MSI for months, no luck so far but I'll keep trying.
Good review Jarrod. I know you don't track pricing, so pricing aside, if you had a choice of which 2070 laptop to get right now, based on max FPS gaming only, what would be your personal preference?
Thanks! Probably the GX502 because it topped the charts in my testing in game FPS.
Gx502 over the new gx701 ? It is really hard for me to make my decision :)
Can you make a review about the new GE66? I hope youd conisder it.
You deserve 20m subs and believe me you will have them I've followed mkbhd on his beginning .... Suddenly everyone will know how gr8 your videos are, just wait.
Just allow me to advise you something
Look when you make similar video please separate the cons and pros
Add them in description
Edit the video for them
Don't get me wrong i watch the whole thing but alot of lazy people they just wanna get cons and pros.
Also PLEASE KEEP ON BEING HONEST just like now never to accept any company if they want you to advertise them and hide thier cons
Thank you so much
Amazing video quality here. I appreciate the extensive work here. Just got my GE65 with 2070 and 9750. I've been tweaking with throttle stop all day today, looking for that sweet spot. Are there any throttlestop tips you'd recommend beyond this video you'd recommend me ? I'm currently at -150 -130 and TPL was default at 200 and 200. I noticed several others online showed different default TPL values, was wondering what you'd recommend there.
Thanks! To be honest I'm by no means a pro undervolter, I haven't even finely-tuned this I just did some quick settings for the video. I suggest you check out Bob of all trades TH-cam channel as he has plenty of good undervolting guides with throttlestop 👍
Excellent informative video. How would you think the Laptop will perform using liquid metal?
Overall which is better for Video Editing/ Rendering. 1) MSI GE65 Raider - 432 or 2) ACER Predator Helios 300 or 3) ACER Nitro 7 or 4) Lenovo Y540. looking for 144Hz and accurate color with GTX 1060ti. Seem like all have Heat Dissipation problems and some with CPU Throttling. Also heard some have Battery and Charger "Block" goes bad. RANK these 4 laptops please. I really like the Acer Predator but said to have many problems and also not favorable in ordering from Amazon due to Restricted Policies and cost to Restock if Bad. -The Nitro 7 said to be better than Nitro 5 but still runs very Hot, Red backlit keyboard not great, dull and hurts eyes if turned Off can't see Keyboard Lettering . - Lenovo Y540 bit more expensive and it has all plastic chassis and poorer screen than those I've listed above. Starting to favor the MSI GE65, however you stated some minor heat issue and lesser CPU function, also tweaking -under voltage CPU. - what about getting to and over 300 NITS.? I appreciate your kind response. Many great Review you have. Getting bored with Linus Tech as his reviews are often mixed and unclear, Linus is just money hungry and shows a lot of things most consumers cannot afford. Thanks Jarod as your more to earth and understandable !!!
I have reviews on all of them with Adobe Premiere results so you should be able to see, also have screen brightness and colour gamut results in the review videos. I'd probably get Y540 or Helios 300 as my highest options, but would prefer Y540 for the reasons covered in this comparison: th-cam.com/video/pyggQzZmM4I/w-d-xo.html
@@JarrodsTech daughter went with Predator 75DE that has RTX 2060 for $1,299 also include 4 yr warranty and tax total cost just over $1,600 from Amazon.com. I thought the Y540 looked awesome however limit on upgradability. I suppose my daughter fancied about having ability to change keyboard colors. At 25 yrs old she gotten to listen less what Dad has to tell her … we'll see if she is happy or wished she had listened to the old man.(be 60 this yr.) But appears the Predator is an excellent choice even though MSRP hasn't really dropped any since June / July 2019. Hard to find them too ..Supply and Demand. Looks like ACER stopped production on 15.6 inch and staying with 17.3 in laptops for Predator here in 2020. go to Acer store and Blah ..where are all the products? Thank you Jarrod for your quick response. Wish you the best in life and much success.
what cooling pad are you using 7:26
I had a question about undervolting if I look at it it sounds like there a only positive things are there any negatiefs about it, and one more thing is it possible for laptops to undervolt while in eco mode?
Negatives are only if you push it too far, instability can cause random program crashes or blue screens. Once it's stable then no issues, only improvements.
Jarrod'sTech tanks
will u consider this MSI GE65 9SD Raider-432 to your review? thanks
love your review BTW
Thanks, I've already reviewed the GE65 (link in description). Slightly different spec yes, but most companies do not send out the same laptop with a slightly different component change so I will probably never get it, also hard to justify spending a week doing another full review just for one component change. 9SD is just 1660 Ti model yeah? You could see the performance/thermal difference in my 1660 Ti vs 2060 video.
@@JarrodsTech Hi, please I saw you commenting to others helping decide. I am thinking about buying MSI GE65. Could you please give me an advice ? Would you buy this notebook (like MSI GE65 Raider 9SF-030CZ or MSI GE75 Raider 9SG-642CZ) in regard of thermals ? Or would you buy something else in this price range (cca up to 2k €) what has better thermals ? Thank you very much for reply !
Hello, I have a query, I am in a dilemma since I do not know whether to buy a msigf65 with a 2060 or a reconditioned msige65 with a 1660ti, there is no other difference between them and I found them at the same price, in advance thanks
Great. Will be nice to see MSI GS75 Stealth 9SF.
I think I covered the 8SG, don't know if they'll send a slightly different config though.
I never owned a laptop nor monitored temps much, but I have this make/model and it's showing 154 degrees farenheit for GPU. Is this like way too hot or what?
I have a version 9SF with RTX2070 my cpu stays cool at ultra settings (around 70-75) while my gpu always goes as high as 86 degree(Cod war zone NBA2k20 even GTAV creeping towards 86). Laptop is 3 month old. Any tips ?
I really like your channel, very helpful and informative.
Actully, if possible to compare between the new Asus TUF A15 with MSI GF65 ( when both have 16 gp ram)
Thanks, the A15 is arriving tomorrow so I will have some videos soon.
Awesome review as always. I think I speak for everyone when I say we gain some valuable knowledge from you. In your opinion, is it worth getting an RTX 2070 over a GTX 1660ti? My main purpose is video editing so no need for Ray tracing but I do use after effects occasionally and some general effects with Premier Pro. Specifically I'm looking at the Aero 15 Oled i7 with 1660ti over the 2070. I look forward to your reply ✌️
Cheers! To be honest I think a 2070 is wasted for the money with premiere. In my experience as long as you have some form of mid range Nvidia GPU there's diminishing returns in most cases by going higher. If I was buying a 4K video editing laptop today, I'd probably go the 1660 Ti as it's a great sweet spot for the money.
@@JarrodsTech legend. thank you
Not sure if you will see this now but I have this laptop and during gaming on medium settings with sport shift it hits around 90 degrees constantly with a cooling pad and it's pretty loud most the time.
Anything I can do to help this
You could also look into undervolting, that may help.
I couldn't undervolt my laptop at 0.15 without it crashing and I have the msi ge65 raider, what's the reason you can and I can't? did you have to do anything special or does it really depend on laptop to laptop - even if it's the same one?
Every cpu has different undervolt setting
Jarrod when you run your benchmarks for games for apex legends in example do you set everything to high like anti aliasing etc
Yes, all settings to max or minimum for that game. Otherwise I just use what ever the game's default is with the built in presets.
Hey Jarod, do you think that 40 degrees area on the display will cause damage to the panel?
To be honest I don't know, but that doesn't sound too unusual compared to many I've tested in the past.
@@JarrodsTech thanks man, keep up the good work
Pls review Msi alpha 15.....ur review is so good and very helpful
It arrived two days ago, videos will be coming next week.
I don’t know if I should get the
1. Lenovo Legion Y540
2. Asus Rog Strix G G731GT
3.MSI GL65
I’ll be using It for Work stuff, Movies, Gmod, CSGO and some other games... Don’t want to spend too much since I primarily play Ps4. But need a Laptop that will fit my needs with no problem!
I haven't tested 2 and 3 myself so honestly cannot compare for you, sorry. Hopefully someone else can advise.
Jarrod'sTech Don’t worry 😂
I’m still deciding between the
Lenovo Y540
Asus Rog GL53GT
Asus TUF FX505DU
I recently sold my HP Omen 15...
personally I didn’t think i needed it, got a bit hot and noisy just watching TH-cam... But I’ve heard good reviews on these 3 laptops 1 and 3 I watched your reviews.
Will it maintain the same temps with an RTX 2070 card? If so, this is arguably the best gaming/workstation laptop to date.
I'd expect it to be similar given 1070 and 2070 are both 115W parts.
Hey, i just bought ge65 9se 1 week ago... do i need undervolt this laptop?? Or nah?
Depends on the workload, it would probably help if you want some extra performance/cooler machine.
Asus Strix scar 3 17" RTX 2060 or MSI GE65 RTX 2060?
I wanted to buy the asus scar III but then msi drops this thing
They are in different price range.
Msi looks to be performing better and better thermals as well and better keyboard compared to ROG .. i would suggest MSI even though it is slightly pricier...
@@VeMpX8 ge65 has 2060 90W, so it gives u better performance than the 80W ver on scar 3. But due to temperature, scar 3 may be the better choice.
Scar for better thermal I guess
İ have 2*16 gb 3200mhz ram, can i upgrade this laptop with them?
We need new standard To measure performance and temperature!
Fan noise of every laptop is different and because of that comparing cooling of them is not fear.
I recommend make fan noise constant. Like have fan noise 40db for every laptop which one have fan control program.
Also have more idea to make test more stable and comparable
It's not really possible to compare in that manner as not all laptops offer granular fan control, I can't test them all at 40db.
@@JarrodsTech not all but most laptop can. Also gaming laptop who have fan control locked are trash and we should send this message
Hi Jarrod,
Can you or someone please advise me what's the difference between the GE65 and the GP65 Leopard (both with RTX 2060)? From what I've seen in the current Gen, they're identical!
To be honest, I do not know. MSI have a lot of options, some with very minimal variance. I haven't had the chance to test the GP65 out yet myself, but yeah it looks very similar from the pics.
@@JarrodsTech HI Jarrod,
If you see this great 9.5 min review of the GP65 , maybe you could have a better understanding since u had the GE65.
th-cam.com/video/5ntqk_IcaGo/w-d-xo.html
Thanks,
Erthling the GP65 has a bigger size but a 144hz screen and a full plastic body whilst the GE65 has a 244hz screen, metal/plastic body and a more compact nicer design
Erthling personally I went for the GE65 because of the higher quality material, 244hz screen and a 15.6 inch size which Is easy to take around. It’s all your preference though
Hello guys I'm sorry but I have a question which is not related to the video, basically I have to choose between an Asus scar 2, scar 3 (both 2070 144hz models) and an Acer Triton 300 with a 1660ti (which, as I heard has some of the best thermals, much better than the scars)
I live in Russia and there is only a small range of laptops available here and prices are wired too, so these are the only three models I can buy for the amount of money I have. By the way thank you Jarrod for another great video.
I haven't tested an Acer Triton 300 yet so I am not in a position to compare, I'm still waiting for Acer to lend me one. In terms of thermals I haven't compared the Scar II and III with the same specs either so I can't fairly compare those.
@@JarrodsTech thank you
Просто Leonid go for MSI
Which cooling pad did you use?
This one: th-cam.com/video/Zx2EnUD-DoM/w-d-xo.html
hi
this laptop with 2070 for $1900 with tax
or
New ge66 raider with 2070 for $2200(with shipping and tax)
which one?
Up to you and your wallet, no real difference except 66 has better placed and more effective cooling tubes and it has stronger hinges, plus the design is better imo
What's the difference between sport and comfort mode?
Not much, you can see how they perform differently in the video.
What is the difference between the Lenovo legion y550 and the Lenovo legion y740. Please respond
The Y550 doesn't exist, so assuming you meant Y540, the main differences are the Y740 has Thunderbolt 3, G-Sync, and RGB lighting - so depends if you care about any of those.
Ok sorry I must have misspelled y540
Hi jarrod is the msige65 better than the asus rog strix scar 3
I haven't had them both with the same specs so honestly cannot accurately compare the two fairly.
Hi everyone, I'm planning to buy a decent gaming laptop. Please help me pick the better choice, Lenovo Y545 or MSI GL65? Both comes with i7 9750h and GTX 1660 TI. I'd really appreciate it!
Haven't tested the GL65 myself so I'd just be guessing, I'd lean towards the Lenovo over the MSI options though, but the Y540 over the 545 for the reasons mentioned in my recent comparison video,
@@JarrodsTech Hi Jarrod, thanks for your response. The thing is, y540 in Indonesia only comes with gtx1650. I thought you would pick MSI GL65 since the Y545 has thermal issue and it can't reach its maximum potential at 4 Ghz.
@@zulfikarirfan9868 most laptops can't under heavy load without undervolting.
@@JarrodsTech ah I see. The Y545 also got better display color accuracy tho, compared to the GL65's. Anyway, thanks a lot Jarrod! Believe or not, you're the one I rely on whenever I hunt laptops! Cheers 🍻
@@zulfikarirfan9868 no problem, happy to help! yeah given the choice between Lenovo and a MSI I'd probably go Lenovo personally
Would a 1660ti model change thermal performance?
Yes.
@@JarrodsTech do you think (I will take it with a grain of salt) that it would also effect the CPU temp and not just the GPU?
would having a 1660ti change anything?
Yeah a little, see my 1660 Ti vs 2060 comparison video for thermal differences
Actually how hot is 35-40°C when you touch it?
not very, 35c is around 90F, and things dont really feel hot unless they're above body temp, which is 98.6. so 40c might be a bit warm but shouldn't be any issue other than maybe some sweat
My previous laptop was about 48c in the left palm rest. It felt like burning sensation.
I would chose a hot throttling cpu over a hot palm rest anytime.
Edit: said laptop was msi ge40 (2013)
Pretty cool/barely warm.
I have MSI GS75 9SE and in Epic Graphic Setting in "Star Wars: Fallen Order" in Comfort Mode + ThrottleStop I have 61-65 degrees by Celsius on CPU.
Nice!
Sweet.
Should i go for MSI or Lenovo legion or Razer blade?
Shahzad Shahzad MSI has the best cooling solution in the market, personally I bought the MSI GE65 Raider (Same as the video) and I’m loving it so far, sure the temps are a bit high but a cooling pad for 15-20$ and maybe some undervolting fixes that
Legion y540 or this laptop?? Helppp
I'd get the Y540.
Jarrod'sTech thanks king
Asus rog strix scar iii rtx 2070 or msi ge 65 2070??
I haven't tested both with the same specs so it's hard for me to say.
Do a msi GL65 9sdk review please
I've been trying to get one for months but MSI still haven't sent one over.
Do a review of GL65 9SD please....
or please tell me should I buy this (gl65 9sd)????
I've been trying to get it for months from MSI but no luck so far unfortunately. I'd expect it to perform fairly well with the specs.
" How hot is the MSI GE65 "
Yes.
Ge65 vs Ge75??
Ryan Ramos GE75 better
I haven't had both with same specs so can't fairly compare, but in the end comes down to whether or not you want 15" or 17" I think.
IMO it’s like the same thing apart from the form factor. Also the Ge65 has the option of a 240hz screen
pretty underwhelming to be honest. the GE75 should be far better, and thats the one i want anyway
It's bigger so I'd hope so 😎
Any laptop above 90C
ME : GTFO
For me stress full test for CPU and GPU if more than 85C then GTFO but in march 2020 I need choose new gaming laptop and still there almost nothing near what I want from gaming laptops. All company's save money on heatpipes and other cooling solution.
🔥 I have no personal issues running above 90c but I guess I'm not paranoid about it after smashing hundreds of machines with high load 🔥
Its a laptop ffs. Not a tower.
Thats the biggest trade off with laptop.
it looks so compressed
What do you mean by compressed?
@@JarrodsTech the whole body is so compressed i dont think it will work for long term hardcore use
man i hit cpu 100c while gaming with rtx2060 on 85c max 😂😂😂
guess the device lol :D
its dell one though...
colling pad though repaste too :/
G5, mine did that too 🔥😎
@@JarrodsTech nooo, awm15 :(
damn toaster
This CPU is getting very hot in demanding games. This is a tutorial for all laptops using intel but the settings should be different from one CPU to other.
The reason is the Turbo Boost mode of the cpu. This mode allow the CPU to reach for a limited time higher clock speeds than the base clock. The build in control is telling the CPU to lower the frequency if the CPU temperature exceed 90 * C or more. Usually in games like BFV or benchmarks the CPU boost the frequency and the temp is getting very high. This cause a slow down instead of a better performance. This machine can do much better if you do next:
AA)
- install first “Intel extreme tuning utility”.
- reduce the core voltage offset ( I found that -0.150v is best for stability ).
- set the Turbo boost short power max to 65 W and turbo boost power max to 54 W. ( I found that this are best settings after many try and research on Intel CPU factory info.) After this settings save the profile and every time you restart the laptop make sure you will load same profile.
You can use Cinebench 2.0 and test your results with this settings and without to see how big is the difference. This settings are kind a sweep point (best performance without compromising safety) . If you like more safety you can reduce more the power values. Everything said should increase the performance about 25 % and decrease the CPU temp below 85*C if using cooling properly.
BB) If all above seems hard for you, than there is another simple method to reduce the temperature of the CPU.
Go to Control Panel>Power Option>Change Plan Settings>change advanced power settings>processor power management>maximum processor state
Here you have to change from 100% to 99% when plugged in. This will not allow CPU to go in turbo boost mode! The cpu temp will not exceed this way 65-70*C and the difference in BFV in frame rate is very small ... 5 -7 FPS compared with max power.
Have a nice day and hope this will work for everybody reading this!
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MSI, 這公司誠信有問題
在網頁資料買底板送遊戲, 當你買底板, 提供相關資料及聯絡後, 竟然還要你到它的WEBSITE去檢查回覆, 唔會直接聯絡你, 根本是想你忘記。 數日後, 它回覆你是"Not qualified", 甚麼原因都沒有提供。 你再問它, 它就回覆 "打開您提供的網頁，在適用主機板型號里面確實沒有看到您的主板型號，B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ...當然，如果您有異議，我可以幫您反饋相關人員查詢。" 又話"看到您在香港地區，，，我查到您的主板型號在香港地區并沒有這個活動，。" 我的回應是, 你不是開玩笑吧, 並把相關網頁SCREEN CAP俾它。它當然又不回覆, 我再去它的網頁出POST追問。它又重新問我, "您問下您參加活動的官網帳號是什麽，可以提供一下嗎。", 我再提供單據, 又再等, , 佢又唔覆, 又再追問它
, 其間, 我都影了該盒子給它們。 再後, 又說我的單據有問題, 我又再聯絡商號修改, 並上傳給它。 我都再問它, 有無其他問題, 一次過問, 一次過覆它。數日後又再重覆要求我上傳。拖完又拖, 問完又問, 根本係騙局, 根本無遊戲。 根本是想拖到時限過了, 又追究無門。 我買AXX CPU, 不用三天已主動電郵回覆同送GAME了。 大家要小心, 勿上當。(我全部資料都有SCREEN CAP, 歡迎對質)
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