Sometimes I think I'm a creative, practical person, then I watch one of your videos and are absolutely humbled by the level of creativity you display in every step of creation. It's really awesome, man.
Dude, turn that JST crimping and connector assembly into a short. Hands down the best demo I have ever seen. It deserves all the extra views it will bring.
Resin printers are NOT for first-time users and requires handling of pretty hazardous chemicals! These parts require a small 3d printer and if you're gonna print tabletop figures, resin would be bestest option.... Just prepare for pain and epic failures. :D
@@emmanueladdey7083was just about to say this. Haven’t bought one yet but a friend of mine has one and I’ll go to his house with my filament and just start printing stuff. I genuinely don’t think I’ll ever buy an Ender product again, besides maybe a resin 3d printer
Bro.. I literally thought of the diy Controller to watch it for the 5 the time once again and now I find out youve made a adjustable mouse. Thanks for making videos bro, and take time to make content, its really high quality.
The only problem with the R.A.T. 8+ is that even at their full extension, if you have long fingers or a larger than average hand, the mouse is still small. That said, I don't know why I never thought of 3D printing additional modules to replace the existing ones for the R.A.T. 8 to address that shortcoming. Guess I know what I'm doing in Fusion next.
@@erin.anderson Close to my situation... I have Giant hands and my rat 7 MMO is still small. Even though it's a chonky boi. I will probably in the future just scan my rat 7's shape which i adore, make it a little big bigger and slap some logitech hardware underneath. That of course will happen when my rat 7 will inevitably die (like the others did)...
The half-vertical grip style layout you mention at 31:47 is much like the Handshoe mouse, which is the ergonomic mouse I personally use. I would recommend checking out the Handshoe if you haven't already.
Thanks for sharing your inspired and inspiring work with us. Impressed with your fluent desktop manufacturing chops, now with added kicad! Your industrial design language is primarily 'form follows function' but not at the expense of design styling. Would love to see your version of an ergo split keyboard. I might have to invest in a resin printer now...
Absolutely wild. Brilliant presentation of a spectacularly designed product. From execution to documentation, a beautiful combination of "professional" and "labour of love". Not only did you nail the fundamentals, there were so many little touches that elevate this project. The tips for prototyping (and this thing looks sweet in clear resin!), the advice for troubleshooting and cost-saving... I stumbled across this while looking for a fully vertical gaming mouse. I'm expecting to have to re-shell an existing mouse, similar to how "Dawid does texh stuff" did it. I use the affordable Trust GTX 144 at the moment, but it has some glaring quality issues. I've got four, two have failed already in the same way (scroll wheel assembly), and it has an issue with registration of multiple button presses. But I get brutal RSI if I game with a traditional mouse nowadays, so I just keep going through GTX 144's. At least I feel I get my money's worth before they fail. Vertical only for me. Your project has taught me a lot, and I've really enjoyed it. I hope some day to build a mouse half as good as this!
Great job! I also like how the aspects of the design in the finished mouse make the rear of it look like a cutesy skull with horns. Maybe that's just something I see, but that was something I noticed that drew me in to watching the video and then later when I found out that it was to access the joints, it made me chuckle. Definitely something that could be played up in the print files, before printing things out. The scroll wheel assembly it super cool and has a futuristic motorcycle look to it, like something out of an anime. The aesthetics are really great.
The level of polish you're able to achieve and the amount of different skills you have is just staggering. It's really so impressive. Thank you so much for sharing. Btw, I know you mention that you don't like vertical mice very much, but I think there's a lot of potential in an adaptive vertical mouse - the body could work as it does now, but it would be connected to the base with another joint, making the whole body tiltable. I personally have been using a vertical mouse for years now, and as with most things, you get used to it and start to be proficient. And I truly believe in the ergonomics benefits it's supposed to have.
You've inspired me. Thank you for the wonderfully informative video and resources. Very generous. I'd love to see your take on a ball mouse as weight wouldn't be a concern and a heavy vertical mouse can be problematic. An adaptive 1000Hz polling rate ball mouse (index and/or thumb) would be genuinely a revolution for the computer chained among us. I use a ball for everything that isn't gaming to protect my wrist and game with a custom 4k 20 gram wireless fingertip mouse using an existing HSK pcb.
The half-vertical grip style layout you mention at 31:47 is much like the handshoe mouse, which is the ergonomic mouse I personally use. If you aren't already aware of the handshoe mouse I would recommend looking it up.
What a masterwork of design and engineering. The variety of skillsets on show here is so ridiculously impressive and I'm not sure people even realize it. I'm currently trying to Frankenstein two mice together into a Logitech MX Vertical with the original mouse handling only clicks, then a new mouse in the base handling movement for a better sensor while maintaining the original form factor and feel. A challenge enough for me then TH-cam recommends me this video that's years out of my league :)
There are many pro micro alternatives that have USB-C ports. These are drop-in replacements for pro micros, and are frequently used in open-source mechanical keyboard designs. One model, the Supermini NRF52840, even has bluetooth and built-in battery charging and costs less than $5 (still supports wired connections). Something to explore for anyone building this themselves or future revisions
@@PyottDesign I have several, and they work very well. I found the bluetooth connection reliavle even with multiple devices. Love the mouse design, and I learned a lot watching your design process. I especially love that it's open source, very well done!
14:15 i love the backing where the palm sits as a flat not waffle lining but it reminded me a lot of an elytron of a beetle mixed with kinda a mech design i would love to take this design and modify slightly thank you for making this open source too! amazing job with your creative work and your heavy lifting to help nudge / move the ergonomic design of the mouse forward
Love this mouse design. The ergo seem very well suited as I use a fingertip style grip, at least when I'm using it in my right hand. Being a lefty, I'm ambi with my mouse and often use my left hand unless I'm gaming.
this is a marvelous work (already finished) but with more detailed change of design, material, components and many more, A bit of marketing and investing this would be the nxt most used mouse honestly. I really hope to one day open any e shop and purchase this.
i freakin love it so much, that there are so many fuckin great designers, giving the world the chance to learn actually so many usefull gems of topics ...
Bloddy amazing, mate! Some thoughts: 1. I suggest you work with someone who has truly large hands to tweak your design to be able to fit them. (When I stretch my fingers out, my thumb and pinkie tips are nine inches apart and, when I rest my palm on the mouse as most folks do, my fingers extend more than two inches past the front end of the mouse. Yes, really.) 2. For the vertical style--or for those of us with huge hands--a heel pan is a must so the heel of our hand isn't dragging across the mouse pad. Can you please add one as an option to your design? 3. Super-soft silicone USB cables are available and inexpensive, so rebuilding one isn't necessary. 4. I would add a mouse wheel assembly version that places a depressable 1cm I2C/SPI OLED display where the DPI button is. That would allow for much more information about a particular profile than just memorizing what a particular RGB LED colour means. (72x40 pixels = 18x6 text display when using a 3x5 font.) Cheers!
Thank you for open sourcing this design! I panic A little when I see innovation because it often means the intentional obsoleting of ideas once no longer profitable.
this is awesome, i'll probably make this to give a friend. im not a huge fan of wired to much drag, but if you ever come out with a wireless one im all over that.
Thanks, I really like the way those came out too. Ended up being a good compromise between durability and locking rigidity on the ball joints. The original design used metric square nuts which worked better but I swapped them standard hex nuts because they were easier to find. I really liked the extension arm version shown at 9:40. Those passed the conductors for the button switches through the copper extension rods of the arms. It was just a little to complicated so I walked away from it. Really hard to let that concept go!
This is an amazing job! I really like the author's design style. In fact, modern design is going the wrong way. First, designers who know nothing about engineering draw something crazy, then real engineers try to make it work! And the more difficult it is to do this (that is, the crazier the initial sketch was), the more expensive the product is. But consumer qualities are very weakly dependent on the price. Therefore, cheaper products are often designed more competently. But they save too much on components. And, most likely, they put low-quality ones on purpose so as not to compete with their more expensive goods. Although the production costs may differ by a small amount. Anyway, the author of this video took a completely different, more correct path. Having created an engineering-perfect design, he used her own style to create a complete image. When the content determines the shape, it is immediately visible and this is a property of professional devices, not toys. And I really like it! I immediately wanted to try to build such a mouse! I have a 3D printer, and I have sufficient electronics skills... That's just it is not possible to order the boards in JLCPCB right now. You'll have to do them the old-fashioned way - with a laser printer and an iron..
Are you considdering to make your Trackball-Controller a open cource project aswell? Id love to taje a try on it and build one for my own. You did a great job with your Controller and your mouse!!! 👍🏻
This is such a inspiring project, I would love to make this my self but unfortunately some of the components and tools are not available for me, with that said I wonder how flexible this build is using cheaper components, maybe even an external motherboard like the controller build?
If you ever are interested in making a third version, the Logitech G502 is a pretty favorite mouse and keeps the same design over many years it seems. I'd love to adapt mine into a version of this, because that extra thumb button and the sensor resolution up/down are really great, along with the switchable scroll wheel.
The half-vertical is exactly what I am looking for for myself. With the normal horizontal, I can feel a tightening on the outside of my arm, and the full vertical loses some of the fine control. (It's possible I might adjust, but I tried it before and couldn't adjust in three weeks, so I expect it is an internal brain wiring issue.) As an aside - from the close-up, I see you are also a nail chewer. 😁
This is like the mouse version of those gaming keyboards that are shaped like a hand (someone is gonna rock that combo someday and just dominate the world competition on all games ever)
Really don't like the lattice for the actual left click and right click buttons but i guess that's whats great about 3D printing. Don't like it? Change it! Love this concept and the detailed looked into everything!!
Very cool, though I do have to wonder, how much customisation does a mouse really need to have? Aside from slight tweaks to accommodate hand sizes (probably more of a factor for people whose hands are too big for a standard "small mouse" but too small for a large mouse) surely the reason the form factor of mice hasn't changed is because it's actually incredibly well-designed as is. Given how frequently mouse sensors and frame materials, internal weights etc have been iterated on, if there was something to be gained in ergonomics of the traditional gaming mouse, surely that too would have changed over the years.
the complete Sci-Fi model of this has actuators/sensors and goes through a calibration process at the end of which it will be set up perfectly for your hand shape and intended use :)
This makes me think a lot about the mad catz mice, check the RAT 8+, you might have already seen it in your researches. Great mouse btw. Nice project too :)
Would love some looking into and focusing on fingertip grip or pen grip designs since you mentioned stagnation in the industry. They can be smaller and lighter and use a grip we’re all used to
This mouse you made looks interresting. Wouldnt mind giving it a try since im very used to Madcat mouses but yeah this mouse you made does have different appeal. Also to see somebody use a Madcatz mouse in his desgine process makes me happy. I personaly had 1 that survive bankcruptcy of Madcatz and then the mouse laser got damaged on 1 axis (these are 2 axis laser reading mouses that make pinpoint aim). so i bought ather one MadCats 8+ Adv which has 20.000 dpi more then you ever need and adjustable dpi levels / and ofcourse the funictional adjustable to the hand. How ever the only fail to this mouse is the scrolling wheel its a dissapointment (it use a weird contraption not a normal scroll wheel and its something like a potmeter with a mouse wheel into it and a click for 3de mouse) how ever this system once its dirty it require to open the mouse and even afther cleaning it will return the scroll wheel to act normal but it gets dirty again quickly due of open to dirt of the hand or skin remains or something or dust and well the mouse scrolls horrible again. Only thing i can say the lasers in this mouse also 2 axis and they work perfect. but yes sadly due of a bad scroll wheel im forced now to use 2 different mouses and 1 pure for scrolling webpages XD. because if i do that with main mouse its just jumping all over the place...
I think you should sell this. It would be great for people who dont have access to rly nice 3D printers. The adjustable 3 grip styles are rly nice. Im guessing weight might be the issue
Eh, that comment I made was an over simplification. Many places are totally value engineering based with industrial design being almost totally ignored. Other shops are industrial design driven. It really depends on the industry and what position a company is trying to carve out in that industry. Higher margin "premium" brands usually put a lot of focus on ID. Lower margin product companies, not so much.
A couple of weeks ago, I wrote in Logitech Discord what would be a nowadays mouse would be... I wish that your mouse has some of that features too... I think buying a used Logitech MX Revolution mouse as a basis then changing the shell and adding few buttons and modding the PCB to support easy replacement of worn buttons (no soldering), I was even planning to start a project and started looking for options, like you did to have a custom PCB that uses RPI 2040 or Arduino nano...
>This project requires resin printed parts. It (probably) won't work if parts are 3D printed with an FDM printer. anyone who says this is looking to be proven wrong lol. those instructions are a work of art.
I'm curious if this is now your daily driver. do you like that much? I've also thought of doing a VR controller version of this with triggers for each finger, potentially with adaptive triggers like you'd see in the dual sense controllers. It might get heavy and expensive, but i bet with some tuning, the immersion and potential haptics would result in crazy good budget immersion (compared to modern gloves anyways). I'd imagine individual finger tracking could also be managed with this solution. Something also to consider is a button layout more similar to the Swiftpoint Z. they had some ingenious button layout ideas that I hadn't originally considered (like the 3 index and middle finger buttons and addition pull button). I'm curious if you know about that one.
Haha cant believe it, I was just finishing my shape adaptive mouse project and just saw this video. I guess great minds think alike. Hmm maybe we could combine the two designs into something something more.
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Sometimes I think I'm a creative, practical person, then I watch one of your videos and are absolutely humbled by the level of creativity you display in every step of creation. It's really awesome, man.
Humbled is a relatable word
See you gotta drop the "practical" bit, go nuts
the attention to detail on the guide is mindblowing. it looks beautiful. you are so talented and humble
Dude, turn that JST crimping and connector assembly into a short. Hands down the best demo I have ever seen. It deserves all the extra views it will bring.
Ha, I know right? Have no idea why JST-PH crimp tutorials are non-existent on YT. I couldn't even figure out which crimp tool worked with them...
Every time you post a video, I get closer to buying a soldering iron, and a 3d printer
Resin printers are NOT for first-time users and requires handling of pretty hazardous chemicals!
These parts require a small 3d printer and if you're gonna print tabletop figures, resin would be bestest option....
Just prepare for pain and epic failures. :D
Get a A1 Mini man
@@emmanueladdey7083was just about to say this. Haven’t bought one yet but a friend of mine has one and I’ll go to his house with my filament and just start printing stuff. I genuinely don’t think I’ll ever buy an Ender product again, besides maybe a resin 3d printer
Do it! They're both fun hobbies. They can get costly, though.
i look at this and can only think the amount of hand chum that those buttons will accumulate
Hand chum?
@@sammorossi you know, gamer gunk
cheese grater
It doesn't. That's a misconception.
@@MeowTowexplain? Because my mouse definitely piles up with gunk.
Bro.. I literally thought of the diy Controller to watch it for the 5 the time once again and now I find out youve made a adjustable mouse. Thanks for making videos bro, and take time to make content, its really high quality.
Incredible work here. Though if you used all three wires on the switches, you’d be able to do instant debouncing.
As much as I've grown to dislike TH-cam and Google over the years, it's stuff like this that keeps me coming back. Excellent stuff dude
Even the assembly instructions are beautiful
R.A.T. if all the panels weren't just for show
My R.A.T 7 M.M.O disagrees with that statement
The only problem with the R.A.T. 8+ is that even at their full extension, if you have long fingers or a larger than average hand, the mouse is still small. That said, I don't know why I never thought of 3D printing additional modules to replace the existing ones for the R.A.T. 8 to address that shortcoming. Guess I know what I'm doing in Fusion next.
@@erin.anderson Close to my situation... I have Giant hands and my rat 7 MMO is still small. Even though it's a chonky boi.
I will probably in the future just scan my rat 7's shape which i adore, make it a little big bigger and slap some logitech hardware underneath.
That of course will happen when my rat 7 will inevitably die (like the others did)...
The amount of work done here is staggering! Amazing job man!
How do you always manage to make such amazing videos?
The half-vertical grip style layout you mention at 31:47 is much like the Handshoe mouse, which is the ergonomic mouse I personally use. I would recommend checking out the Handshoe if you haven't already.
Thanks for sharing your inspired and inspiring work with us. Impressed with your fluent desktop manufacturing chops, now with added kicad! Your industrial design language is primarily 'form follows function' but not at the expense of design styling. Would love to see your version of an ergo split keyboard. I might have to invest in a resin printer now...
Absolutely wild. Brilliant presentation of a spectacularly designed product.
From execution to documentation, a beautiful combination of "professional" and "labour of love". Not only did you nail the fundamentals, there were so many little touches that elevate this project. The tips for prototyping (and this thing looks sweet in clear resin!), the advice for troubleshooting and cost-saving...
I stumbled across this while looking for a fully vertical gaming mouse. I'm expecting to have to re-shell an existing mouse, similar to how "Dawid does texh stuff" did it.
I use the affordable Trust GTX 144 at the moment, but it has some glaring quality issues. I've got four, two have failed already in the same way (scroll wheel assembly), and it has an issue with registration of multiple button presses.
But I get brutal RSI if I game with a traditional mouse nowadays, so I just keep going through GTX 144's. At least I feel I get my money's worth before they fail. Vertical only for me.
Your project has taught me a lot, and I've really enjoyed it. I hope some day to build a mouse half as good as this!
Great job! I also like how the aspects of the design in the finished mouse make the rear of it look like a cutesy skull with horns. Maybe that's just something I see, but that was something I noticed that drew me in to watching the video and then later when I found out that it was to access the joints, it made me chuckle. Definitely something that could be played up in the print files, before printing things out. The scroll wheel assembly it super cool and has a futuristic motorcycle look to it, like something out of an anime. The aesthetics are really great.
The level of polish you're able to achieve and the amount of different skills you have is just staggering. It's really so impressive. Thank you so much for sharing. Btw, I know you mention that you don't like vertical mice very much, but I think there's a lot of potential in an adaptive vertical mouse - the body could work as it does now, but it would be connected to the base with another joint, making the whole body tiltable. I personally have been using a vertical mouse for years now, and as with most things, you get used to it and start to be proficient. And I truly believe in the ergonomics benefits it's supposed to have.
OMG! The clear mouse prototype lookss tunning as well. Great project again!
Absolutely amazing the ammount of work, prototyping and design that went into this!
I wish I had your cad skills
What a wonderful REInvention! Thank you for sharing, looks gorgeous.
Very clean work here; I'm very impressed with the design. Great job man.
Absolutely amazing content ! You are a blessing to the 3d printing & open source community !
You have done a large-scale and painstaking job. The result looks like a finished product that commands respect and looks nice.
This whole thing is really cool. Even just the wheel module by itself is amazing.
You've inspired me. Thank you for the wonderfully informative video and resources. Very generous. I'd love to see your take on a ball mouse as weight wouldn't be a concern and a heavy vertical mouse can be problematic. An adaptive 1000Hz polling rate ball mouse (index and/or thumb) would be genuinely a revolution for the computer chained among us. I use a ball for everything that isn't gaming to protect my wrist and game with a custom 4k 20 gram wireless fingertip mouse using an existing HSK pcb.
Your rhino grasshopper and fusion skills always blows my mind. I have a lot of things to learn from you.
Amazing! This is truly a masterpiece of mechatronics in every way imaginable.
The half-vertical grip style layout you mention at 31:47 is much like the handshoe mouse, which is the ergonomic mouse I personally use. If you aren't already aware of the handshoe mouse I would recommend looking it up.
Wow, hadn't seen that before. Thanks for the heads up!
This project is so interesting and cool, that half-vertical layout you mention seems amazing.
One of my favorite youtubers. Instant watch, like, and now a comment. Such a nice project, in such satisfying detail.
This is such a beautiful design! Masterful engineering, problem solving, and aesthetics!
I believe this is THE diy mouse. Also, the most insane looking open-source project for daily use I've ever seen. Thanks for this.
love that you made all of it open source!!
Amazing!! Will build one next year, thanks for making such a nice mouse and open sourcing it❤.
What a masterwork of design and engineering. The variety of skillsets on show here is so ridiculously impressive and I'm not sure people even realize it. I'm currently trying to Frankenstein two mice together into a Logitech MX Vertical with the original mouse handling only clicks, then a new mouse in the base handling movement for a better sensor while maintaining the original form factor and feel. A challenge enough for me then TH-cam recommends me this video that's years out of my league :)
Having the wrench stored on the mouse itself is genius
There are many pro micro alternatives that have USB-C ports. These are drop-in replacements for pro micros, and are frequently used in open-source mechanical keyboard designs. One model, the Supermini NRF52840, even has bluetooth and built-in battery charging and costs less than $5 (still supports wired connections). Something to explore for anyone building this themselves or future revisions
Hadn't seen the Supermini before. Very nice option for future builds!
@@PyottDesign I have several, and they work very well. I found the bluetooth connection reliavle even with multiple devices.
Love the mouse design, and I learned a lot watching your design process. I especially love that it's open source, very well done!
Dude, Thank you! I am left handed and basically none of the commercially available options really cover all of my needs, especially ergonmomically.
14:15 i love the backing where the palm sits as a flat not waffle lining but it reminded me a lot of an elytron of a beetle mixed with kinda a mech design i would love to take this design and modify slightly thank you for making this open source too! amazing job with your creative work and your heavy lifting to help nudge / move the ergonomic design of the mouse forward
You’re simply wonderful at what you do sir
Love this mouse design. The ergo seem very well suited as I use a fingertip style grip, at least when I'm using it in my right hand. Being a lefty, I'm ambi with my mouse and often use my left hand unless I'm gaming.
First time viewer - the algorithm bought me here... All I can say is Wow! Great project
this is a marvelous work (already finished) but with more detailed change of design, material, components and many more, A bit of marketing and investing this would be the nxt most used mouse honestly.
I really hope to one day open any e shop and purchase this.
i freakin love it so much, that there are so many fuckin great designers, giving the world the chance to learn actually so many usefull gems of topics ...
Bloddy amazing, mate! Some thoughts:
1. I suggest you work with someone who has truly large hands to tweak your design to be able to fit them. (When I stretch my fingers out, my thumb and pinkie tips are nine inches apart and, when I rest my palm on the mouse as most folks do, my fingers extend more than two inches past the front end of the mouse. Yes, really.)
2. For the vertical style--or for those of us with huge hands--a heel pan is a must so the heel of our hand isn't dragging across the mouse pad. Can you please add one as an option to your design?
3. Super-soft silicone USB cables are available and inexpensive, so rebuilding one isn't necessary.
4. I would add a mouse wheel assembly version that places a depressable 1cm I2C/SPI OLED display where the DPI button is. That would allow for much more information about a particular profile than just memorizing what a particular RGB LED colour means. (72x40 pixels = 18x6 text display when using a 3x5 font.)
Cheers!
Thank you for open sourcing this design!
I panic A little when I see innovation because it often means the intentional obsoleting of ideas once no longer profitable.
i admire your design this is incredible work
this is awesome, i'll probably make this to give a friend. im not a huge fan of wired to much drag, but if you ever come out with a wireless one im all over that.
Would love to see an open source trackball like the Keysington Expert Mouse. Been my go-to for 8 years now.
I really like the ball joint/arm design. I'ma steal that!
Thanks, I really like the way those came out too. Ended up being a good compromise between durability and locking rigidity on the ball joints. The original design used metric square nuts which worked better but I swapped them standard hex nuts because they were easier to find.
I really liked the extension arm version shown at 9:40. Those passed the conductors for the button switches through the copper extension rods of the arms. It was just a little to complicated so I walked away from it. Really hard to let that concept go!
This is an amazing job! I really like the author's design style. In fact, modern design is going the wrong way. First, designers who know nothing about engineering draw something crazy, then real engineers try to make it work! And the more difficult it is to do this (that is, the crazier the initial sketch was), the more expensive the product is. But consumer qualities are very weakly dependent on the price. Therefore, cheaper products are often designed more competently. But they save too much on components. And, most likely, they put low-quality ones on purpose so as not to compete with their more expensive goods. Although the production costs may differ by a small amount.
Anyway, the author of this video took a completely different, more correct path. Having created an engineering-perfect design, he used her own style to create a complete image. When the content determines the shape, it is immediately visible and this is a property of professional devices, not toys. And I really like it! I immediately wanted to try to build such a mouse! I have a 3D printer, and I have sufficient electronics skills... That's just it is not possible to order the boards in JLCPCB right now. You'll have to do them the old-fashioned way - with a laser printer and an iron..
Wow amazing project, just like every single one you make
looks beautiful to me. id use this for gaming and productivity (3d modelling too)
Product design tips are amazing. Thanks for sharing!
Are you considdering to make your Trackball-Controller a open cource project aswell? Id love to taje a try on it and build one for my own. You did a great job with your Controller and your mouse!!! 👍🏻
absolute mental of design and engineering!
Such a quality project. Amazing 👍
😮 What have I just seen? That was really impressive
crazy cool project, thanks for sharing!
This is wonderful, great work
This is such a inspiring project, I would love to make this my self but unfortunately some of the components and tools are not available for me, with that said I wonder how flexible this build is using cheaper components, maybe even an external motherboard like the controller build?
If you ever are interested in making a third version, the Logitech G502 is a pretty favorite mouse and keeps the same design over many years it seems. I'd love to adapt mine into a version of this, because that extra thumb button and the sensor resolution up/down are really great, along with the switchable scroll wheel.
The half-vertical is exactly what I am looking for for myself. With the normal horizontal, I can feel a tightening on the outside of my arm, and the full vertical loses some of the fine control. (It's possible I might adjust, but I tried it before and couldn't adjust in three weeks, so I expect it is an internal brain wiring issue.) As an aside - from the close-up, I see you are also a nail chewer. 😁
This is like the mouse version of those gaming keyboards that are shaped like a hand (someone is gonna rock that combo someday and just dominate the world competition on all games ever)
14:11 The shell looks like a cute cat/panda!
Basically R.A.T cyborg, one of those old mouses.
If you make the buttons on the side either in a different size or different shape its easier to distinguish what the thumb is on.
This seems really promising. I would buy one in a blink of an eye.
What an amazing design! Very tempted to try it but I'd need way more thumb buttons and maybe bluetooth connectivity..
you should have posted this on a patreon or smth dude this could make so much money
insane, i love it
now make it ultra light
I'm no business expert but you gotta sell an assembled version. Plenty of people would happily pay a few hundreds for one of these
Really don't like the lattice for the actual left click and right click buttons but i guess that's whats great about 3D printing. Don't like it? Change it! Love this concept and the detailed looked into everything!!
this video made me realize how engineers who made transformer toys could've been doing this to computer mice lol
Great project and video. I think you could potentially make the board even smaller by using the surface mount IC instead of the full arduino board
Very cool, though I do have to wonder, how much customisation does a mouse really need to have? Aside from slight tweaks to accommodate hand sizes (probably more of a factor for people whose hands are too big for a standard "small mouse" but too small for a large mouse) surely the reason the form factor of mice hasn't changed is because it's actually incredibly well-designed as is. Given how frequently mouse sensors and frame materials, internal weights etc have been iterated on, if there was something to be gained in ergonomics of the traditional gaming mouse, surely that too would have changed over the years.
the complete Sci-Fi model of this has actuators/sensors and goes through a calibration process at the end of which it will be set up perfectly for your hand shape and intended use :)
For a hot second I was looking at Sanyo 4.7mm steppers on micro lead screws...
This is really neat. I wonder if something similar could be done with Lego since we have ball joint parts.
Oh god the amount of hand chum that would get inside that mouse on the thumbnail.
this was such a cool project
This makes me think a lot about the mad catz mice, check the RAT 8+, you might have already seen it in your researches. Great mouse btw.
Nice project too :)
Would love some looking into and focusing on fingertip grip or pen grip designs since you mentioned stagnation in the industry. They can be smaller and lighter and use a grip we’re all used to
Peak youtube content. 10/10!
This mouse you made looks interresting. Wouldnt mind giving it a try since im very used to Madcat mouses but yeah this mouse you made does have different appeal. Also to see somebody use a Madcatz mouse in his desgine process makes me happy. I personaly had 1 that survive bankcruptcy of Madcatz and then the mouse laser got damaged on 1 axis (these are 2 axis laser reading mouses that make pinpoint aim). so i bought ather one MadCats 8+ Adv which has 20.000 dpi more then you ever need and adjustable dpi levels / and ofcourse the funictional adjustable to the hand. How ever the only fail to this mouse is the scrolling wheel its a dissapointment (it use a weird contraption not a normal scroll wheel and its something like a potmeter with a mouse wheel into it and a click for 3de mouse) how ever this system once its dirty it require to open the mouse and even afther cleaning it will return the scroll wheel to act normal but it gets dirty again quickly due of open to dirt of the hand or skin remains or something or dust and well the mouse scrolls horrible again. Only thing i can say the lasers in this mouse also 2 axis and they work perfect. but yes sadly due of a bad scroll wheel im forced now to use 2 different mouses and 1 pure for scrolling webpages XD. because if i do that with main mouse its just jumping all over the place...
Thank you for making this open source. So awesome. Do you think FDM would be practical for printing the components?
I think you should sell this. It would be great for people who dont have access to rly nice 3D printers. The adjustable 3 grip styles are rly nice. Im guessing weight might be the issue
10:48 currently studying mechanical engineering and industrial design, interesting to hear that design comes first in industry!
Eh, that comment I made was an over simplification. Many places are totally value engineering based with industrial design being almost totally ignored. Other shops are industrial design driven. It really depends on the industry and what position a company is trying to carve out in that industry. Higher margin "premium" brands usually put a lot of focus on ID. Lower margin product companies, not so much.
@@PyottDesign Thanks for that insight :)
this is such a cool project!
A couple of weeks ago, I wrote in Logitech Discord what would be a nowadays mouse would be... I wish that your mouse has some of that features too... I think buying a used Logitech MX Revolution mouse as a basis then changing the shell and adding few buttons and modding the PCB to support easy replacement of worn buttons (no soldering), I was even planning to start a project and started looking for options, like you did to have a custom PCB that uses RPI 2040 or Arduino nano...
You should open source the trackball controller if you haven't already. That thing's sick.
Yoooo, they make a Lego Bionicle that can turn into a computer mouse now. Awesome!
Damn. What a build. I love ergo stuff. To bad I prefer trackball.
Yay, Kyria spotted. I love my Kyria keyboards too :)
Your ability to 3d model is insanity. I would really like to see some tutorials or thought process behind your creativity for your 3d models.
>This project requires resin printed parts. It (probably) won't work if parts are 3D printed with an FDM printer.
anyone who says this is looking to be proven wrong lol.
those instructions are a work of art.
wow this is really cool!!! i hope i get the chance to build this one day!
I'm curious if this is now your daily driver. do you like that much?
I've also thought of doing a VR controller version of this with triggers for each finger, potentially with adaptive triggers like you'd see in the dual sense controllers. It might get heavy and expensive, but i bet with some tuning, the immersion and potential haptics would result in crazy good budget immersion (compared to modern gloves anyways). I'd imagine individual finger tracking could also be managed with this solution.
Something also to consider is a button layout more similar to the Swiftpoint Z. they had some ingenious button layout ideas that I hadn't originally considered (like the 3 index and middle finger buttons and addition pull button). I'm curious if you know about that one.
Invent a mouse where I dont have to stick out my pinkie like im sipping tea.
Amazing! So much inspiration
Haha cant believe it, I was just finishing my shape adaptive mouse project and just saw this video. I guess great minds think alike. Hmm maybe we could combine the two designs into something something more.