THANK YOU FOR THIS TIP!!!! I just got my Giant Propel updated to Di2 and I hunted down this video to set up my Garmin 830 with the D-Fly buttons. Worked like a charm and is way safer than trying to swipe screens with my finger at 35 kph or more. Your tips ROCK!
learn something new every day.. i didn't realise you could set up all 3 switching methods. i thought you only choose one of them. happy days! thanks again Shane.
Great tutorial! I have a roadbike with a mahle x20 motor in the rear hub. Mahle has an integration with Garmin edge. With the buttons set up I can now change the assistance level on the fly. Very cool!
Just for your information Shane... I have the older R6870 Di2 this has no secret buttons on the hoods... but if you set up sequential shifting on the right or left (one button up gear one button down gear) you can use the other buttons on the shifter (that are no longer used to change gear) to control your Garmin screen 👍
So one way to get DFly ANT+/Bluetooth is to replace the SM-EW90 junction port typically mounted under the stem with a handle bar mounted SC-MT800 or SC-M9051B Di2 Digital Display Unit. The display acts as the junction ports, charging port, battery level and gear display in addition to both ANT+ and Bluetooth communication.
Thank you! I didn't even know this existed. I've been using synro-shift for the last year and don't use my left shifter buttons. I love that I don't have to have 8 things displayed on my garmin or get out of aero to see all the data I want.
I have this set up and also have ant+ lights. For me it's a bit of a miss that you can't configure "full beam" and "dipped beam" type config for night road riding. You can cycle modes but that means scrolling through full flash which isn't ideal at night. I guess this would be for Garmin to make this change.
3:02 any way to get this menu to show more options such as 'Missed Notifications'? Would be handy to use a lever button to quickly access missed notifications on the Garmin
Nice video Shane. However, the biggest takeaway from this video (for me, at least) is to NOT buy any Garmin device. Even watching someone else struggling with the touch screen is painful enough to not want one. I'll stick to my Wahoo devices and physical buttons ;-)
Hello Shane, is there anyway to display the DI2 gear combo on Garmin Connect cycling activities like speed, cadence or power? Any connect IQ data field we could install and add to our activity screens to record the data?
Great tip as always... i saw someone made one the of options (either long press or double click) be the zoom/in or zoom/out on the map page. do you know if that is possible?
Hi Shane. I´m trying to get my Forerunner 745 working in the same Way my Edge 530 dose. It´s not possible at the moment i think, the Menu to config the Di2 Buttons is missing on Garmin Watches. Did you ever think about that or did someone ask for it? I startet a Thread in the Garmin Forums, too. I was hoping to switch between Data-Pages on my new watch whithout taking the hands of my handlebars would be possible. (of cause the watch would be in a Garmin-mount on my handlebars, not on my wrist!)
Anybody figure out a way to use the Di2 hood buttons change the power levels on an e-bike? I've contacted Garmin, and they say to contact Shimano who has yet to respond to my emails. I would think it's a Garmin issue since I can go to a screen on my 1030 and change the power level there, but this isn't a choice in the menu to assign functions to the upper buttons.
Hi Shane!! Thanks for your nice video's. I have a Propel with Di2 and bought yesterday also the TCR advanced 0 SL. I love the Di2. I have now also the buttons on top. i was wondering if i can set them for shifting and the garmin? Let's say 1 push for shifting and 2x push for the garmin? Thanks!
recently, i had left (didn't disconnect) my 2024 12 speed 105 di2 system connected with the garmin edge 830 and this resulted in draining the battery of 2024 12 speed 105 di2 system fully. This also drained the battery of the left lever. Have you experienced this type of phenomenon ? please advise... thanks!
I’ve only heard of this happening when the di2 system isn’t disconnected from the E-Tube app. I’d check for firmware updates and contact Shimano if this happens again.
I was really looking forward to being able to do this with a shiny new Ultegra Di2 group set and was let down by the fact that a Forerunner 935 (which I have mounted out front of the bars when cycling) doesn't support dfly channels. Would've been nice to scroll pages and flick through ANT+ light modes.
Thank you Shane! If it weren't for you and your videos and documentation regarding Shimano Di2 I would've thrown out my Di2 Groupset due to the poor job they do with regards to this (basically no useful info from them IMHO). I really appreciate the effort you are putting into this!👌 Also: which bartape is that on your bike in this video? Like its low key look
Could you connect the extra buttons to your phone, so if listening to music the buttons could skip songs? Or perhaps another use on your mobile. E.g press and hold calls someone?
@@gplama thanks Shane! Amazing response time for a 2 year old video. Your channel is awesomez taught me so much about zwift and lots of other cycling tips. I'm watching your Di2 videos as just ordered myself a giant propel with ultegra di2. Very excited! Such luxury!
Tried several times - does not work for me 😭. There's no reaction on my Edge 830 when I disconnect the Shimano App. Not sure what I'm missing? Got D-Fly 1 and 2 on the shifters, no problem. But afterwards... nothing.
@@gplama thanks for the follow-up! Found another guide that suggested using the derailleur button to connect the 830 after have set the shifters to D-Fly first - and it worked.
My first thought was, I like to fly but I don't want to be a modern day fighter pilot. It's just too much for me. But, your's is a channel founded on equipment and tech reviews so that's out of line. My next thought was, laser cannons! I need a set of those hood buttons connected to lasers. Pew, pew, pew-pew...
Trying to set it up on a r8150 version the latest it works like a charm but if you want to control the shifting mode you can not. The only possibility it a through E-TUBE but if you choses “function” instead of dfly your garmin can not recognise it and you will have only the switch mode but not the other two possibilities hold and double click :(
@@gplama Maybe it’s due of my two levers that are not up to date. What they didn’t tell me (Canyon) is that levers can not be firmware update trough the wifi E-TUBE app. The only possibility is through a specific cable right to the battery or with that same cable and an adapter to the front or maybe rear derailleur . Just for you to know ;)
Great video. Do you know of a way for the Garmin to record the Di2 gear data whilst riding and then upload that data into Garmin Connect for post ride review? You can see the gear data whilst riding but is it recorded?
Garmin Edge units will record the data, yes. This information isn't used by Garmin Connect that I'm aware of. Services such as di2stats.com/ or axs.sram.com/ will parse FIT files from Garmin devices for Di2 information to display.
Is this feature set supported by the Roam? I know the Bolt only pages in the one direction, so I'm curious if this kind of functionality is something Wahoo is considering. Being able to hit lap from the hoods is also such a brilliant idea for intervals, especially when you're flying down a road at speed. Small things like this can push people to one brand over another, I would think.
I believe it’s the “climber” switches for di2. You may want to check Shane’s “install video” for those. In fact, I’d go watch all of his Di2 videos, as one of the other commenters mentioned, Shane does a much better job of demonstrating Di2 stuff than Shimano themselves.
@@gplama yes I do - it recognises is on the 520 and I can edit the buttons to perform different actions. But when I go to my main screen it doesn’t scroll through.
@@gplama I have the fields ready to use, at first I managed to find the di2 and then connected it, but when the hood buttons didn’t work I removed it and tried reading the di2 to the garmin, now it won’t find it, even when I am trying to wake it up with the gears.
Oooooh, those buttons on the bottom of the Edge look too close to the handlebar indeed! No wonder you'd want to switch to the Di2 instead. I just ordered the Edge 830 and the accessibility of these buttons is a potential problem I am dreading. No Di2 for me and my larger stem mount would not help at all. 😬🤞
For those who are still wondering: My fears were unfounded. I am having absolutely no issues accessing the buttons on the bottom when using the standard Garmin mount that came with the Edge 830. Even with the bulky Hussefelt stem on my bike (www.sram.com/truvativ/products/truvativ-hussefelt-stem).
A lot of that was me not tapping the screen correctly due to the angle I was on with the overhead camera. I'll give it a full analysis when I've had more time with it, and I do a video about the 830 itself.
The lag looked tolerable to me but the screen sensitivity seems worrisome. Too many false positives and false negatives in such a short amount of time. Scrolling seems to be the worst offender as it twice registers a false tap instead of a swipe. Doing all this with sweaty fingers on a bouncing unit as you're riding your bike would not make this any easier. Ironically, I went with the 830 over the 530 because of the complaints about the physical back button on the latter. Oh, well, there is no winning here. Looking forward to Shane's full review of the 830 (or the arrival of mine, whichever comes first).
@@dwilmer1980 TL;DR: Yes, I do actually! Just got mine yesterday and did my first ride today. Still getting used to the Garmin ecosystem but regarding the screen, here are my impressions: Yes the lag is there. It just does not bother me. The response is slow enough not to get unnoticed (esp. compared to any modern smart phone) but it's also quick enough that it does not seem to be annoying (at least not to me). The touch screen also occasionally misses taps. My experience so far has actually been quite like Shane's in shown in this video. The worst offender seem to be the soft buttons on the bottom. Not so much with swipes. Amazingly, pinch to zoom on the map feels smoother and more responsive (not scrolling though) -- go figure! Again, this happens rarely enough that I am not too bothered by it (yet?). I have not seen any signs of over-sensitivity though (falsely registered unintended taps or swipes) -- I would definitely be less tolerant of those. Haven't tested how it handles wet / sweaty fingers or gloves, yet, so I can't comment on that. My biggest disappointment about the screen (and the unit as a whole) is the freaking fonts -- they look fuzzy. Maybe the underlying screen resolution is too low or the anti-aliasing algorithm Garmin uses is crap but I honestly thought the screen was blurry when it came up for the first time. This felt like a bummer because the biggest reason for my switching from my Wahoo Bolt was that I couldn't quite make out the small letters in the navigation instructions on the Bolt. Today's ride squashed my apprehensions though. The Edge shows the navigation instructions on the top of the screen in large enough letters that I had no problem reading them. Also the slightly larger screen and colored display make up for the lack of crispiness. The brightness on auto was also great. Basically, I had no struggles seeing what's on Edge's screen. So I am keeping it :) YMMV, HTH
Yes I confirm don’t try update on Bluetooth : I have tried this week and it crashes. Because I have a Mac only it was difficult then to find a pc to terminate the update. Then it still didn’t work and no shifting but because battery was drain because of the fail update. After 3 days I was able to ride my bike again : nightmare this software by Shimano
Foye Troute WiFi and Bluetooth are not using the same frequency in MegaHertz. So no interference possible between WiFi and Bluetooth. It won’t change nothing to turn WiFi off unless Shimano put a bug in its software. But you could turn off Apple Watch if you have it and uses Bluetooth for less interference !
Also very very important, if you connect to it via the etube app on the iphone, make sure you disconnect it when done. The iphone will maintain the connection and can kill the di2 battery in a matter of hours! Do this before a ride, drive an hour to trail and find a dead battery.
@@JeffreyGordonTheTankGordon yup, always disconnect it. But I had the problem on a previous D-Fly unit, before Bluetooth was available. It's even been into a Shimano dealer and they said it was fine. The only thing they changed was moving the D-Fly unit from between the rear derailleur and stuck it in the bottom bracket. Which was tidier, but didn't solve the battery drain issue.
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Once again, you saved me where the Shimano instructions were useless. Thank you so much!!!
Your doing a better job on shimano tech info ...Than the company
I agree. Shimano should be paying Shane for doing this stuff. Their documentation is pretty terrible...
@@jimhansen5395 Documentation and Software both are terrible. I have a mac and no luck with di2 s/w on it!
@jo gr 😂
@@jimhansen5395 he's already earning money doing these videos
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIP!!!! I just got my Giant Propel updated to Di2 and I hunted down this video to set up my Garmin 830 with the D-Fly buttons. Worked like a charm and is way safer than trying to swipe screens with my finger at 35 kph or more. Your tips ROCK!
learn something new every day.. i didn't realise you could set up all 3 switching methods. i thought you only choose one of them. happy days! thanks again Shane.
My current favs for press and hold....one side goes to map page the other...to elevation profile. Quite handy!
Brilliant video. Was not aware of all of this functionality and how to activate it. Thanks so much Shane. You are a star!
Great tutorial! I have a roadbike with a mahle x20 motor in the rear hub. Mahle has an integration with Garmin edge. With the buttons set up I can now change the assistance level on the fly. Very cool!
Just for your information Shane... I have the older R6870 Di2 this has no secret buttons on the hoods... but if you set up sequential shifting on the right or left (one button up gear one button down gear) you can use the other buttons on the shifter (that are no longer used to change gear) to control your Garmin screen 👍
So one way to get DFly ANT+/Bluetooth is to replace the SM-EW90 junction port typically mounted under the stem with a handle bar mounted SC-MT800 or SC-M9051B Di2 Digital Display Unit. The display acts as the junction ports, charging port, battery level and gear display in addition to both ANT+ and Bluetooth communication.
Thank you! I didn't even know this existed. I've been using synro-shift for the last year and don't use my left shifter buttons. I love that I don't have to have 8 things displayed on my garmin or get out of aero to see all the data I want.
Thanks Shane! I've just set up my new GRX Di2... can't wait to hit some gravel!
Thank you!
I have this set up and also have ant+ lights. For me it's a bit of a miss that you can't configure "full beam" and "dipped beam" type config for night road riding. You can cycle modes but that means scrolling through full flash which isn't ideal at night. I guess this would be for Garmin to make this change.
Thanks worked like a charm. You're the best Shane!!!
All set up, great guidance - thank you! Is it possible to see the weather widget (and others) as part of the secret button settings?
3:02 any way to get this menu to show more options such as 'Missed Notifications'? Would be handy to use a lever button to quickly access missed notifications on the Garmin
Thanks to you all things di2 are much clearer!
Great video once again. I love the industry and how they are improving our cockpit
NICELY DONE. SIMPLE TO FOLLOW. THANKS
Can you do this with Garmin forerunner 955?
No idea sorry. Likely. I don't have a 955.
@@gplamathanks for your response, I’ve managed to connect the two but cannot seem to connect to the d-fly system, only viewing battery and cassette.
@@gplamahave you ever had the shifter buttons work with a Garmin watch?
Not something I’ve tried. One for Garmin support.
Thanks Shane. Great, comprehensive content.
always great and simple videos. Thank you Shane
I really want to do this with my 9070 Di2 but I also have to buy the newer gen battery, and it's all getting rather expensive 😥
Very well explained. Thank you
Pity you can't share one of the three options for each button between the control of Di2 and headset functions
Nice video Shane. However, the biggest takeaway from this video (for me, at least) is to NOT buy any Garmin device. Even watching someone else struggling with the touch screen is painful enough to not want one. I'll stick to my Wahoo devices and physical buttons ;-)
Benny Cornelissen Want buttons get a 530... it’s called choice, buttons 530 touch screen 830
Hello Shane, is there anyway to display the DI2 gear combo on Garmin Connect cycling activities like speed, cadence or power? Any connect IQ data field we could install and add to our activity screens to record the data?
Great tip as always... i saw someone made one the of options (either long press or double click) be the zoom/in or zoom/out on the map page. do you know if that is possible?
Hi Shane. I´m trying to get my Forerunner 745 working in the same Way my Edge 530 dose. It´s not possible at the moment i think, the Menu to config the Di2 Buttons is missing on Garmin Watches. Did you ever think about that or did someone ask for it? I startet a Thread in the Garmin Forums, too. I was hoping to switch between Data-Pages on my new watch whithout taking the hands of my handlebars would be possible. (of cause the watch would be in a Garmin-mount on my handlebars, not on my wrist!)
Can I programme it to text my wife to bring me a coffee when I'm on alpe du zwift?
Anybody figure out a way to use the Di2 hood buttons change the power levels on an e-bike? I've contacted Garmin, and they say to contact Shimano who has yet to respond to my emails. I would think it's a Garmin issue since I can go to a screen on my 1030 and change the power level there, but this isn't a choice in the menu to assign functions to the upper buttons.
Hi Shane!! Thanks for your nice video's. I have a Propel with Di2 and bought yesterday also the TCR advanced 0 SL. I love the Di2. I have now also the buttons on top. i was wondering if i can set them for shifting and the garmin? Let's say 1 push for shifting and 2x push for the garmin? Thanks!
No. It’s either a Di2 button for gear change or a D-Fly channel button. The latter type not able to change gears.
Thanks for your responce. I noticed it. It is set for the garmin now.
Can you make one off those buttons start any rear facing actioncamera?
Not at the moment that I can tell.
recently, i had left (didn't disconnect) my 2024 12 speed 105 di2 system connected with the garmin edge 830 and this resulted in draining the battery of 2024 12 speed 105 di2 system fully. This also drained the battery of the left lever. Have you experienced this type of phenomenon ? please advise... thanks!
I’ve only heard of this happening when the di2 system isn’t disconnected from the E-Tube app. I’d check for firmware updates and contact Shimano if this happens again.
Awesome help. Thanks !
I was really looking forward to being able to do this with a shiny new Ultegra Di2 group set and was let down by the fact that a Forerunner 935 (which I have mounted out front of the bars when cycling) doesn't support dfly channels. Would've been nice to scroll pages and flick through ANT+ light modes.
Me too
Map zoom in or out possible?
Thanks for your help
Thank you Shane! If it weren't for you and your videos and documentation regarding Shimano Di2 I would've thrown out my Di2 Groupset due to the poor job they do with regards to this (basically no useful info from them IMHO). I really appreciate the effort you are putting into this!👌
Also: which bartape is that on your bike in this video? Like its low key look
Thanks Chrisof. The tape is BBB Cycling BHT-14 FlexRibbon Gel Handlebar Tape: amzn.to/2Yzg6pF
Could you connect the extra buttons to your phone, so if listening to music the buttons could skip songs? Or perhaps another use on your mobile. E.g press and hold calls someone?
No. There’s no way to configure this with these buttons.
@@gplama thanks Shane! Amazing response time for a 2 year old video.
Your channel is awesomez taught me so much about zwift and lots of other cycling tips.
I'm watching your Di2 videos as just ordered myself a giant propel with ultegra di2. Very excited! Such luxury!
Tried several times - does not work for me 😭. There's no reaction on my Edge 830 when I disconnect the Shimano App. Not sure what I'm missing? Got D-Fly 1 and 2 on the shifters, no problem. But afterwards... nothing.
Is the 830 paired to the wireless unit sensor? One for Shimano Support if this isn't working as shown.
@@gplama thanks for the follow-up! Found another guide that suggested using the derailleur button to connect the 830 after have set the shifters to D-Fly first - and it worked.
Great video👍. I would love to see a similar one with a wahoo device. I have struggled to get mine set up just right.
I'm on the case. Stay tuned. :)
I followed your instructions. I have the same group. My edge 1000 just shows "unknown channel" for my buttons. Any ideas?
Not sure. I'd check Edge 1000 firmware (sync via USB with Garmin Express).
My first thought was, I like to fly but I don't want to be a modern day fighter pilot. It's just too much for me. But, your's is a channel founded on equipment and tech reviews so that's out of line. My next thought was, laser cannons! I need a set of those hood buttons connected to lasers.
Pew, pew, pew-pew...
I’m with you!
First you used the a button to shift gears. Can I use the this option and still configure the dubble en hold button option for the garmin?
No. Once the buttons are assigned a D-Fly channel, they can't do gear changes.
Trying to set it up on a r8150 version the latest it works like a charm but if you want to control the shifting mode you can not. The only possibility it a through E-TUBE but if you choses “function” instead of dfly your garmin can not recognise it and you will have only the switch mode but not the other two possibilities hold and double click :(
Interesting! I'll be getting into the new(ish) Di2 soon with my 8170 upgrade.
@@gplama Maybe it’s due of my two levers that are not up to date. What they didn’t tell me (Canyon) is that levers can not be firmware update trough the wifi E-TUBE app. The only possibility is through a specific cable right to the battery or with that same cable and an adapter to the front or maybe rear derailleur . Just for you to know ;)
Great video. Do you know of a way for the Garmin to record the Di2 gear data whilst riding and then upload that data into Garmin Connect for post ride review? You can see the gear data whilst riding but is it recorded?
Garmin Edge units will record the data, yes. This information isn't used by Garmin Connect that I'm aware of. Services such as di2stats.com/ or axs.sram.com/ will parse FIT files from Garmin devices for Di2 information to display.
Is this feature set supported by the Roam? I know the Bolt only pages in the one direction, so I'm curious if this kind of functionality is something Wahoo is considering. Being able to hit lap from the hoods is also such a brilliant idea for intervals, especially when you're flying down a road at speed. Small things like this can push people to one brand over another, I would think.
I’ll do a follow up with the Wahoo units soon.
Is there something similar for Sram and wahoo?
SRAM groupsets don't have any D-Fly style auxiliary buttons at this time.
Hi Shane! On your handlebar, right of your stem, there’s a Shimano logo and it looks like a switch. Was is it for? And thank you for your channel!
I believe it’s the “climber” switches for di2. You may want to check Shane’s “install video” for those.
In fact, I’d go watch all of his Di2 videos, as one of the other commenters mentioned, Shane does a much better job of demonstrating Di2 stuff than Shimano themselves.
Correct, its the climber switch SW-R600
Can I use those buttons to remotely control the Di2 gears on my buddies bike 😜
hahah. No. D-Fly won't change gears.
I am struggling to connect my garmin 520 edge with the hoods. Has anyone had any problems syncing up?
You have the wireless module installed and configured?
@@gplama yes I do - it recognises is on the 520 and I can edit the buttons to perform different actions. But when I go to my main screen it doesn’t scroll through.
Although di2 is flashing on my connections screen so I assume it sees the di2 but isn’t connected to it?
Hmmm. Do the Di2 battery info and gearing fields show as expected on the 520?
@@gplama I have the fields ready to use, at first I managed to find the di2 and then connected it, but when the hood buttons didn’t work I removed it and tried reading the di2 to the garmin, now it won’t find it, even when I am trying to wake it up with the gears.
Was your back-light set to 'auto'? And if so, wouldn't any button have turned it on?
I don't know, I was skipping through the setup to make sure the video was under 10mins :) Something to check though.
Is there something similar like this for Sram?
Not at this point.
So it isn't included in the box? Do I have to buy it separately?
The wireless module for Di2 isn't included on most Di2 bike builds.
Nice explanation! Is the new garmin530 compatible too?
Yes
Why is it not advisable to update the firmware thru mobile apps?
It's usually OK these days.
This bluetooth adapter, where is it? How do I know if I have one? and if I don't have one, where do I buy one?!
In your bike (if you have one). If you don't know if you have one, you likely don't have one. Online - Links in the video description.
Can you programme one to work with Zwift power ups?
I'm sure someone could program that. There's nothing that does this at the moment.
Can you program it to start recording on a cycliq? Or go pro?
Nope.
@@gplama thanks! I hope someday they do as that'd be great
Also possible with sram Rival?
Yes... but you'll need Multi-Clicks or Wireless Blips. The Rival levers don't have hidden buttons like Di2 levers or the new SRAM Red.
hi~~ ^^ I'd like to ask you a question....
What's the number of the bracket cover model?(st-r8050 )
These levers are the 8070 Ultegra hydraulic disc version.
@@gplama Wow fast feedbac thx~^~~^~
Wicked Pissah Cool 😁
0:50 From personal experience 'proceed with caution = do not do this, ever.
Wifi MUST be turned off on your phone/tablet for firmware updates. If it's left on, that's what crashes the update.
Will this be the same for a wahoo Shane?
Similar. I’ll do a follow up video with the Elemnt/Bolt/Roam.
does it works the same on the wahoo roam?
Yes: th-cam.com/video/pgGITe1_OQ0/w-d-xo.html
Oooooh, those buttons on the bottom of the Edge look too close to the handlebar indeed! No wonder you'd want to switch to the Di2 instead. I just ordered the Edge 830 and the accessibility of these buttons is a potential problem I am dreading. No Di2 for me and my larger stem mount would not help at all. 😬🤞
That’s the non XL mount I’m using. With the XL (the one I use with the 1030) the 830 is further forward of the bars.
@@gplama Thanks, good to know. That was my backup plan in case the standard Garmin mount that comes with the 830 is too short.
For those who are still wondering: My fears were unfounded. I am having absolutely no issues accessing the buttons on the bottom when using the standard Garmin mount that came with the Edge 830. Even with the bulky Hussefelt stem on my bike (www.sram.com/truvativ/products/truvativ-hussefelt-stem).
Is this the better responsiveness of the new edge devices dc rainmaker was taking about? Absolutely horrible and laggy!
A lot of that was me not tapping the screen correctly due to the angle I was on with the overhead camera. I'll give it a full analysis when I've had more time with it, and I do a video about the 830 itself.
@@gplama we really owe you guys a lot, the times were manufacturers can just sell you whatever they want are definitely over
The lag looked tolerable to me but the screen sensitivity seems worrisome. Too many false positives and false negatives in such a short amount of time. Scrolling seems to be the worst offender as it twice registers a false tap instead of a swipe. Doing all this with sweaty fingers on a bouncing unit as you're riding your bike would not make this any easier. Ironically, I went with the 830 over the 530 because of the complaints about the physical back button on the latter. Oh, well, there is no winning here.
Looking forward to Shane's full review of the 830 (or the arrival of mine, whichever comes first).
@@atanasg Please let us know if you like the touchscreen. :)
@@dwilmer1980 TL;DR: Yes, I do actually! Just got mine yesterday and did my first ride today. Still getting used to the Garmin ecosystem but regarding the screen, here are my impressions:
Yes the lag is there. It just does not bother me. The response is slow enough not to get unnoticed (esp. compared to any modern smart phone) but it's also quick enough that it does not seem to be annoying (at least not to me).
The touch screen also occasionally misses taps. My experience so far has actually been quite like Shane's in shown in this video. The worst offender seem to be the soft buttons on the bottom. Not so much with swipes. Amazingly, pinch to zoom on the map feels smoother and more responsive (not scrolling though) -- go figure! Again, this happens rarely enough that I am not too bothered by it (yet?). I have not seen any signs of over-sensitivity though (falsely registered unintended taps or swipes) -- I would definitely be less tolerant of those.
Haven't tested how it handles wet / sweaty fingers or gloves, yet, so I can't comment on that.
My biggest disappointment about the screen (and the unit as a whole) is the freaking fonts -- they look fuzzy. Maybe the underlying screen resolution is too low or the anti-aliasing algorithm Garmin uses is crap but I honestly thought the screen was blurry when it came up for the first time. This felt like a bummer because the biggest reason for my switching from my Wahoo Bolt was that I couldn't quite make out the small letters in the navigation instructions on the Bolt.
Today's ride squashed my apprehensions though. The Edge shows the navigation instructions on the top of the screen in large enough letters that I had no problem reading them. Also the slightly larger screen and colored display make up for the lack of crispiness. The brightness on auto was also great. Basically, I had no struggles seeing what's on Edge's screen. So I am keeping it :)
YMMV, HTH
Steering for veloton indoor cycling?
Any software could make use of these channels. Zwift had Di2 enabled in very early beta, it has been disabled for a few years though.
Does this work with wahoo bolt?
Yep. Stay tuned for that video.
Have you moved back to Garmin from Wahoo? Great vids by the way 👍
I use them all.
I use those buttons on the hoods to shift. Lol.
I'm gutted that my Garmin Edge 130 isn't compatible with Di2!
left button for turbo, right button for eat my dust turbo
and Zwift power-ups!
Yes I confirm don’t try update on Bluetooth : I have tried this week and it crashes. Because I have a Mac only it was difficult then to find a pc to terminate the update. Then it still didn’t work and no shifting but because battery was drain because of the fail update. After 3 days I was able to ride my bike again : nightmare this software by Shimano
Wifi needs to be turned off on your phone/tablet for Di2 firmware updates.
Foye Troute WiFi and Bluetooth are not using the same frequency in MegaHertz. So no interference possible between WiFi and Bluetooth. It won’t change nothing to turn WiFi off unless Shimano put a bug in its software. But you could turn off Apple Watch if you have it and uses Bluetooth for less interference !
Don't you need a mic for Alexa?
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I'm on my 3rd D-Fly and 2nd battery. The thing just eats power and has reduced battery life from about 6 months to about 3 days.
Update your firmware over mobile, bricking the Di2 system, problem solved! :) (Wasn't there some battery drain fw fix a while back?)
@@gplamaGPLama it's on the latest firmware actually, still hasn't solved it.
Also very very important, if you connect to it via the etube app on the iphone, make sure you disconnect it when done. The iphone will maintain the connection and can kill the di2 battery in a matter of hours! Do this before a ride, drive an hour to trail and find a dead battery.
@@JeffreyGordonTheTankGordon yup, always disconnect it. But I had the problem on a previous D-Fly unit, before Bluetooth was available. It's even been into a Shimano dealer and they said it was fine. The only thing they changed was moving the D-Fly unit from between the rear derailleur and stuck it in the bottom bracket. Which was tidier, but didn't solve the battery drain issue.
Sorry old thread but I'm having same issues. Was the battery drain ever resolved? Thank you
First pin dis!
Does this work with edge 510 ?