I don’t fault Olivia here because she’s just learning about boundaries in the whole concert situation, but next time she has a boundary with boundary-less folks, she also needs to have a consequence for what *she* is going to do if the boundary is broken anyway. So for example, she tells Moriah, “I will be your keyboardist, but I don’t want your parents there. And if they somehow come anyway, I will leave the concert without playing." Basically, Kim forced her will on the situation and Olivia was left feeling trapped yet again. Having a game plan for when things will go wrong would have given her a sense of agency. But-- to be fair-- she's doing way, way, way better than I would have in any of these situations. I've just gone full no contact with all the crazy, toxic people in my life and started afresh. And when, to my horror, I still occasionally come across people like Kim or my mother in the community it still throws me for a bad loop. I'm much more likely to just exit the situation or group rather than stay in their orbit. But I have incredible freedom and flexibility to be able to do so. I adamantly admire Olivia's boldness in confronting the problems head on.
This series that you’ve made on the Plaths, is SO well done!!! I have never even heard of this family/show but I am binging every video you have on them!!’ So entertaining, well put together and fun!! 😊 definitely subscribed now!!
I too only watch for Olivia. Ethan and M&M have regressed back to before the show even started. I wish I had someone like Olivia when I was a teenager stuck in church life.
So I cannot stand Kim and Barry at all but just to clarify - I homeschooled one of my kids through high school and gave her a similar graduation and diploma. She was accepted into (and graduated from) one of the toughest engineering universities in the country. She now works for a major biotech firm. I am NOT defending the education these kids got (it seems to have been awful) but the diploma she got looks exactly the same as my kid's.
My ex is a lot like Ethan. I’ve always thought my ex was Autistic or neurodivergent. My ex didn’t like change at all. Eats the same foods, goes to the same malls, uses the same body wash etc. most importantly he doesn’t know how to properly regulate his emotions
Yes very much this. Berry and Ethan both the way they have a hard time connecting emotionally and showing empathy. My husband is the same very straightforward low emotion do not like change or anything they concider 'drama'. I've always wondered this about Berry with his seemingly flat emotion and very logical
With some of the family’s hare brained ideas (like trying to sneakily watch the concert), I think it probably would also be good to remember this is a reality show and there’s a strong likelihood that there’s a producers behind the scenes talking and convincing the family members to do these disrespectful/drama-producing behaviors. If they weren’t on a reality tv show I wonder if Barry would’ve managed to talk Kim out of attending the concert “in secret.” Think about it: kim being annoyed and angry and hurt but respecting her daughter’s wishes just isnt “good” tv (because people love drama), so a producer would probably be quite motivated to goad Kim into breaking boundaries. These reality tv shows and their producers most definitely do not have the family’s best interest at heart and that is something to keep in mind
Most states won’t recognize a homeschool diploma as legit even if it’s given by the state. You need a GED to get into college or even trade schools. I needed to get my GED at 20 after being homeschooled for my senior year
This is very dependent on the state and what the parents do. My parents registered as a home school with the state and maintained transcripts consistent with the general school calendar (semester basis/9weeks/whatever it was I don't remember now) and submitted that to my university when I applied there. That was accepted by the state university with no GED needed.
I seriously don’t understand why you feel the need to drop spoilers for future seasons in every video. You do realize there are people watching these as they’re following along with the show, right? I’m pretty much over your recaps at this point. You’ve spoiled the divorces, Max cheating, etc. Maybe consider not everyone has watched everything for your future videos. If you’re gonna discuss season 3, then discuss *season 3,* not season 5.
1:04 YEAH College is a huge waste of DEBT lol unless you want to be a doctor or lawyer or something similar. But going to college and going into hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt to do something like "gender studies" or "ceramics" ... Yep these are real majors... Totally ridiculous 🙄 and don't dare ask ME to pay for it thru government debt relief. You borrow money to go to college YOU PAY IT ALL BACK NOT ME NEVER ME. loving this series ❤❤❤
J I don’t understand why everyone is allowed to have boundaries but the parents are not with their minor children, for whom they are legally responsible. Olivia buying a ticket for Miraha to SanFrancisco without asking the parents was disrespectful. When these kids are 18 then they should be able to what they want. Olivia is a mini Kim. She is awful.
I have enjoyed your videos, but your perspective on Olivia is somehow biased. If you can refrain from being an Olivia apologist, it would help your ‘believability’. Olivia IS manipulative. She’s just really covert in how she displays it. Her one on one interviews are full of virtue signaling, and come across as very inauthentic. (Saying what she thinks she should say so as not to offend anyone). I think she is wrestling through things on an emotional and spiritual level, but struggling to find ground, so she settles for the most safe answers/opinions. While simultaneously throwing her families completely under the bus with no room for understanding, forgiveness or chance to explain.
I disagree these were problems way before Olivia. We’re literally a show about people who were raised in a toxic way and they’re trying to break out of that. Dani has given both sides credit
Yeah I agree with you, op’s take is garbage. I sincerely hope that victims of religious extremism and familial abuse never have to interact with her if this is how she views them when they don’t people please and set boundaries.
“What if, Kim” made me laugh so hard
I don’t fault Olivia here because she’s just learning about boundaries in the whole concert situation, but next time she has a boundary with boundary-less folks, she also needs to have a consequence for what *she* is going to do if the boundary is broken anyway. So for example, she tells Moriah, “I will be your keyboardist, but I don’t want your parents there. And if they somehow come anyway, I will leave the concert without playing." Basically, Kim forced her will on the situation and Olivia was left feeling trapped yet again. Having a game plan for when things will go wrong would have given her a sense of agency.
But-- to be fair-- she's doing way, way, way better than I would have in any of these situations. I've just gone full no contact with all the crazy, toxic people in my life and started afresh. And when, to my horror, I still occasionally come across people like Kim or my mother in the community it still throws me for a bad loop. I'm much more likely to just exit the situation or group rather than stay in their orbit. But I have incredible freedom and flexibility to be able to do so.
I adamantly admire Olivia's boldness in confronting the problems head on.
Hey! I love your videos, please never stop making them :D
Thank you so much! I have loved this show for years and have been really enjoying sharing my commentary on it.
This series that you’ve made on the Plaths, is SO well done!!! I have never even heard of this family/show but I am binging every video you have on them!!’ So entertaining, well put together and fun!! 😊 definitely subscribed now!!
I’ve been waiting for this one! So excited to hear more about this series
Same
It's the fact that I've never seen this show, but I keep watching this series because of you! Just subscribed :)
I too only watch for Olivia. Ethan and M&M have regressed back to before the show even started. I wish I had someone like Olivia when I was a teenager stuck in church life.
I never want your videos to end
So I cannot stand Kim and Barry at all but just to clarify - I homeschooled one of my kids through high school and gave her a similar graduation and diploma. She was accepted into (and graduated from) one of the toughest engineering universities in the country. She now works for a major biotech firm. I am NOT defending the education these kids got (it seems to have been awful) but the diploma she got looks exactly the same as my kid's.
My ex is a lot like Ethan. I’ve always thought my ex was Autistic or neurodivergent. My ex didn’t like change at all. Eats the same foods, goes to the same malls, uses the same body wash etc. most importantly he doesn’t know how to properly regulate his emotions
Yes very much this. Berry and Ethan both the way they have a hard time connecting emotionally and showing empathy. My husband is the same very straightforward low emotion do not like change or anything they concider 'drama'. I've always wondered this about Berry with his seemingly flat emotion and very logical
35:18 okay, so I’m AuDHD and my ND senses were tingling with Ethan and Barry almost immediately!
4:10 oh i KNEW YOU WERE GOOD SHIT AND THAT CONFIRMS IT WII GANG RISE UP!!
With some of the family’s hare brained ideas (like trying to sneakily watch the concert), I think it probably would also be good to remember this is a reality show and there’s a strong likelihood that there’s a producers behind the scenes talking and convincing the family members to do these disrespectful/drama-producing behaviors. If they weren’t on a reality tv show I wonder if Barry would’ve managed to talk Kim out of attending the concert “in secret.”
Think about it: kim being annoyed and angry and hurt but respecting her daughter’s wishes just isnt “good” tv (because people love drama), so a producer would probably be quite motivated to goad Kim into breaking boundaries.
These reality tv shows and their producers most definitely do not have the family’s best interest at heart and that is something to keep in mind
Most states won’t recognize a homeschool diploma as legit even if it’s given by the state. You need a GED to get into college or even trade schools. I needed to get my GED at 20 after being homeschooled for my senior year
This is very dependent on the state and what the parents do. My parents registered as a home school with the state and maintained transcripts consistent with the general school calendar (semester basis/9weeks/whatever it was I don't remember now) and submitted that to my university when I applied there. That was accepted by the state university with no GED needed.
You’re an excellent reviewer!
I think you're right about Ethan, I've noticed too.
anotha one🔥
Every relationship that I have ever seen or heard of where promise rings were involved has ended before marriage. Promise rings are cursed.
Ethan could be ND but childhood trauma replicates a lot of autism and ADHD traits. CPTSD basically stops your emotional development it's really hard
i don’t think you have all these videos in your playlist. i accidentally skipped some :((((. anyways i love your vids so much 🥰
the ayyyooooo 😂😂😂
Just wanted to mention that I have a homeschool diploma and they are legit!
Got my homeschool diploma and my bachelor’s 🎉
The mother literally ran over her baby with a car and it died. The baby boy was behind her car and she went to leave and ran him over.
I seriously don’t understand why you feel the need to drop spoilers for future seasons in every video. You do realize there are people watching these as they’re following along with the show, right? I’m pretty much over your recaps at this point. You’ve spoiled the divorces, Max cheating, etc. Maybe consider not everyone has watched everything for your future videos. If you’re gonna discuss season 3, then discuss *season 3,* not season 5.
1:04 YEAH College is a huge waste of DEBT lol unless you want to be a doctor or lawyer or something similar. But going to college and going into hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt to do something like "gender studies" or "ceramics" ... Yep these are real majors... Totally ridiculous 🙄 and don't dare ask ME to pay for it thru government debt relief. You borrow money to go to college YOU PAY IT ALL BACK NOT ME NEVER ME.
loving this series ❤❤❤
how old are you..
Ceramics is ridiculous until you want a nice vase, serving bowl, etc. 😅 art has always been important to humanity
I find this show so boring. It's the same storyline recycled over and over again. It's frankly ony bearable to watch on your channel, Dani.
J I don’t understand why everyone is allowed to have boundaries but the parents are not with their minor children, for whom they are legally responsible. Olivia buying a ticket for Miraha to SanFrancisco without asking the parents was disrespectful. When these kids are 18 then they should be able to what they want. Olivia is a mini Kim. She is awful.
Olivia did not buy the ticket without their permission. This was clarified later and TLC just framed the scene to make it more dramatic.
I have enjoyed your videos, but your perspective on Olivia is somehow biased. If you can refrain from being an Olivia apologist, it would help your ‘believability’. Olivia IS manipulative. She’s just really covert in how she displays it. Her one on one interviews are full of virtue signaling, and come across as very inauthentic. (Saying what she thinks she should say so as not to offend anyone). I think she is wrestling through things on an emotional and spiritual level, but struggling to find ground, so she settles for the most safe answers/opinions. While simultaneously throwing her families completely under the bus with no room for understanding, forgiveness or chance to explain.
I disagree these were problems way before Olivia. We’re literally a show about people who were raised in a toxic way and they’re trying to break out of that. Dani has given both sides credit
Yeah I agree with you, op’s take is garbage. I sincerely hope that victims of religious extremism and familial abuse never have to interact with her if this is how she views them when they don’t people please and set boundaries.