Gus Cis-Lunar rebreathers were designed by Dr. Bill Stone, and used in the 1988 Wakulla Project The patents/etc were later sold to Poseidon and Dr. Stone worked for Poseidon for a while on their rebreather line John
I can't stress enough how much i love this channel. The experiment is mind blowing, seeing the scrubber completely dry is wild ! Why though is this not in every rebreathers ?
No diver here, I want to learn. You two are in my top 10 channels. Your relationship really does make this channel and puts a warming face to the diving community
Gus just single-handedly got KISS to reissue the original Lunar. Now in orange! You guys are awesome. Woody is so sure you're not going to make it he had the rescue plan all drawn up in his head. lol Another excellent video guys.
I'm a non diver and been watching this channel for just over a year. I have to say this was super cool to see. I didn't even know this was a thing haha Thanks for the good content!
Bro im an auto mechanic and this looks like another genius invention that got scrapped because it was too good. I keep finding tech like this and its annoying. Idk if that actually happened with this one but i wouldnt be suprised 🤷🏾♂️ Too many greedy companies want products completely replaced and nonserviceable. Im really curious about the patent on that filter. Anyway love the content as always and glad ur safe 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I see a lot of people asking why this hasn’t been commercially available. Hopefully I can answer this question for all the above. Early 2000s, the view was that rebreathers were becoming more and more common and affordability + performance was the key issue. Semipermeable membranes, SPMs, were secondary to keeping your potential base up. When only a few thousand units are sold per year, ensuring the price point is low enough/accessibility to continue sales was a large part of what drove the industry & design of CCRs. To this day, the trade off vs OC is price point, and huge complexity spike from open circuits. SPMs add to the complexity, albeit only slightly, design differences, and overall increase risk when pitched as a fault proofed rebreather. One moment of complacency and a single hole can make the redundancy useless. In 2000s~, economic instability hit cis lunar particularly hard on the mk5?6? units, resulting in what we see today. People still swear by their product. Even into early 2010s, the kiss rebreathers were incredible, but because of design and placement of the counter lung/diluent, “The specific problem with the Sidewinder is where you put that membrane. To prevent the first scrubber from getting wet, you would have to put it ahead of that scrubber and there is nowhere to add a water trap and OPV which is why the current device is in the counterlung. It's an inherent design flaw in the unit, albeit a minor one for most.” Radial vs axial placement, increased cost to maintain after CL went under, and having to seal the entire unit, enough to essentially change over under water, meant that economically it was difficult to own or produce the device. Last point I’ll make is R&D. Having a sealed scrubber sounds great, but without some innovation, the public domain materials that I know of would increase WOB greatly. It seems KISS eventually figured it out, as they’ve made sealed units now. TLDR: cost, recession, design, and too few consumers to commercialize and capitalize upon meant that scaling production was, at that time, difficult.
"Hi I'm Woody" is such a pepper upper!! Thank you guys for what you dont. I dont dive but i bet yall have already saved more lives than you know. More lives than the divers themselves know. Awareness is a beautiful thing and you two are beautiful peoples. Love from Kentucky yall
I was always paranoid about diving. Then I have found this channel and videos like this: It shows that even when things go horribly wrong, there are plenty of failsafes. Even in this vid, I was tensed up when I saw the bubbles coming from your rebreather. But you had fail safes and it was no problem, even if the rebreather would fail. That took away a LOT of my fears. I have written to a diving school 5 minutes ago. I wanna try it out sooo bad now. Thank you for focusing on safety and lifting the fear of a lot of non divers and maybe for giving me a new hobby?
@@DIVETALK 100% I'm sure the question where I got the inspiration from is coming anyway^^ Diving is not really common here. Not at all I think. Let's change that.
I like how you all could've done this the first time in a safer environment like a pool or something and just did some small tests, but ya'll just went ahead and dove fully with it. Absolute madlads and I love it!
Awesome video! Side note - Gus, I definitely don't want to come off the wrong way and offend, but you're looking SO GOOD! As a mama losing her last baby's post partum weight I know how hard you must be working to see this kind of progress!! Way to go Gus!
I believe CIS lunar was the rebreathers that Bill Stone Developed to push the sumps at Cheve and huatlah. Awesome to see one in action! Would love to pick Mike's brain, about the development of the KISS version
Not something you want to rely on, definitely. But for it to be a possibility when all backups fail is still amazing. Glad to hear this vintage canister is being made once again.
It's so crazy to me how much I love this channel, having never dove and might not ever. I'd like to but living in Oklahoma it's not the easiest or cheapest hobby to have.
Considering how well this worked, and how old the tech is, I’m really baffled this feature isn’t standard on rebreathers. Legitimately it sounds too good to be true; I’d love to see some follow up on the reasons why this isn’t used in modern rebreather units.
It could be a few things, either the material or procedure to make it is too expensive, the material to make it is too scarce, too few situations where it would actually be beneficial for the diver, or too redundant since they have a bailout tank to use which would drop the number of times it could be useful even more or some combination of those to justify its production. There just isn't a big enough need for it, at least for now, to be produced.
Everyone knows rebreathers are pure markup. They cost far less than the 10k people pay to make them. They know their market and would rather get more money than sell a superior product. Capitalism pure and simple.
I'd like to know as well and if anyone could answer, it would be Mike. I'm guessing it's more the risk rather than materials. Breathable materials exist and have advanced since that was made, eg at a very simplistic level, Goretex. But I'm thinking there's a risk that if you could safely flood a rebreather, people may think it's ok to dive without a bailout tank. Especially given cave diving can be getting you + gear through tight restrictions. So leave bailout behind, explore further. It'll be fine, right? Or another recovery job for Edd. I'm also thinking it might be a maintenance issue, so care for your membrane or being able to tell if it's degrading because that's also a SoL issue. So much like with rebreathers in general. I can't (or shouldn't) be able to wander into a dive shop or buy one on ebay because there are many ways to die. I did rebreather certification 20yrs ago and remember a big part of that was about understanding and caring for your rebreather.
I want to say thank you to Gus and Woody for your content. It's relaxing and very informative. I thought I heard you say you live in ATL, I'm in Bham, AL. I'm open water certified but always had problems understanding the calculations on the dive card for multiple dives. So I learn alot from you both. You can tell you're good hearted people and that you care. You both remind me of The Dukes of Hazzard..... everyone gets along at the end of the day! You are refreshing compared to alot of other TV content. I'm not sure if you have reviewed the following, but I wanted to share the name of the link on TH-cam. It's called: SUCKED THROUGH A TINY HOLE-BYFORD DOLPHIN INCIDENT. Feel free to say hello to me... Ron, from Alabama!
I imagine there's a practical maximum operating limit (pressure) for the Semi-Permeable membrane that this uses to keep the water out of the sorb, as there would be a pressure differential across it given that air is a compressible substance while water is not. At some depth the water would inevitably breakthrough and flood the sorb leading to the caustic cocktail they mentioned.
Going deeper wouldn't change the pressure differential across the membrane. The absolute pressure would be higher on both sides of the membrane, but the differential pressure is caused by breathing only.
@@baginthewind4501 You make a good point. I suppose it depends on where that diluent is added to the loop (upstream or downstream of the membrane) when the diver changes depth which is a real possibility given the task loaded situation.
I know nothing about diving, but you guys are extremely educational and entertaining 😂! I have been hooked on your channel for sometime, keep up the great content guys. Stay safe❤
Gus: "I'm holding the camera up with my arm during a video intro, but hear aquatic activities behind me and need to look and ensure the people are safe."
Keep doing what you're doing. I was diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago, so my dream to scuba dive can never come true anymore. But you still can, so do what you love to your heart's content.
Hey brother wash some grapefruits and peel them , then boil the peels in water from about 10 min and drink the “tea” of your boil every morning and every night until your asthma is super reduced and if you do it for long enough completely gone , I have had asthma since 18 and drank the tea every day and I’m 25 now and it’s gone , i still drink it once In awhile . Btw *it’s really bitter* I have recommend this to 5 friends and family and they don’t have asthma anymore . Some people are born with asthma and grow out of it but I never did until I tried this grapefruit thing. My family has a history of severe asthma asthma , like daily asthma attacks and a nebulizer at home and even school .
Always love your enthusiasm. I didn’t know you were on a fitness quest but I had been noticing you looked thinner. I guess I should have thought there was a reason for the fasting. Congratulations, you look great!!👍
Even though you are 100% sure about the theory and the consequences, please don't test it in reality because it could have taken a toll on your life under water especially in the over head environment. Because you have had always condemned the divers for not being cautious during a cave dive so compared to that this is super dangerous when you are volunteering to test a product despite being aware about the side effects. Wish you all the best and please shoot and upload your dives so that we can get to learn lot more. ❤
Lmaoooo Woody's icons are hilarious, maybe you should add them for the channel members so they can use them on your live chat, thats a great incentive, Woodys face as emoji 😅
Not only does this Chad test this supposed fail safe out, he does it in a cave! 🏀🏀! Gus, next work, it’s good to see it is possible for this tech to help make your dives more save. Stay frosty Woody and Gus, still loving your videos. ❤❤
Gus you are looking great! Very fit! I'm doing the same thing losing weight and getting back in shape. I've cut back on fast food and pop... mostly haha. The 10 hour shifts of walking at work have gotten way easier and clothes are fitting better. Good luck man! I feel so much better then I did before, like last year!
I've heard Woody make the comparison with car batteries a couple of times when talking about the caustic nature of the scrubber. Car batteries are acidic not basic. They contain diluted sulphuric acid. Love your stuff, keep up the good work!
the membrane on the outside is a semipermeable membrane like your cell walls. they are very expensive to produce but have some great advantages when it comes to flooding a rebreather and preventing channeling in the sorbe. I think that now the membrane should be a lot cheaper because they are more common and we could see this coming to other rebreathers soon.
I, like everybody else, can’t imagine why this wouldn’t be widespread. On the note that it might be military use only, it would be a cool video to review what SEALs use, maybe with Mr. ballen sharing what he’s allowed to from his time doing it. A video of you guys diving together would also be awesome.
Security through obscurity. Just because it works people who get to comfortable could end up making more problems for themselves if they dont have the experience of what to do next if things take a turn. Obviously you would just switch to open circuit if it failed.
Gus, you look like you’ve lost an entire person in terms of your weight. It’s genuinely astounding. As a naturally skinny guy, I can tell you with confidence that neither I nor 99% of your viewers know the amount of work it takes to lose that weight and keep it off. From everything I’ve seen and read (not experienced, I’m privileged to not have to deal with being overweight), it takes effort just short of moving a mountain to make the changes you’re making. It is an entire lifestyle shift in every aspect. I’d love to hear more about your experience in general. You guys are both metabolic gas masters, so I’m sure you’re aware, but 80% of that weight you lost, Gus, you lost through respiration. Exhaling the broken down fat as CO2 accounts for nearly all of the weight lost. That’s a LOT of breathing to fuel a LOT of hard work. I’m rambling now, but I’ve never been diving, I’ve watched you guys for literally years, and I’m just so happy for you, Gus. Both of you bring me a lot of joy.
I don’t know for certain, but that scrubber is so rare that even if it was in production I’m not really sure how many of these exist out in the world. Maybe less than 20 globally. Who knows.
Since you guys seem to be getting a lot deeper into the technical aspects of rebreather diving, I would like to hear what you think of the safety record for rebreathers. There was a pretty good presentation from Rebreather Forum 4 where DAN tried to estimate the rebreather fatality rate and found that it was around 2-4 per 100,000 dives. That would mean that as many as 1 in 25 divers on average wouldn't live long enough to see their 1000th rebreather dive. This would put rebreather in a comparable category as some of the more extreme danger sports.
great experience. thank you. one thing I don’t understand : if the loop is fully flooded why don’t the sensors get wet from the inhale side (where the special membrane would not protect anything) ?
Gus, dude. You're crushing getting fit. Holy smokes, from the first Dive Talk videos to now. Just congrats man. (edited: typo name)
Just goes to show, when people want it, they can change themselves.
Definitely!!! Super inspiring proud of you Gus!!
I was going to say this. He looks great!
He's amazing for that! Huge respect and I hope he feels immensely proud of the progress he's made 💯
Wow, that's true! Gus is super different!
Gus
Cis-Lunar rebreathers were designed by Dr. Bill Stone, and used in the 1988 Wakulla Project The patents/etc were later sold to Poseidon and Dr. Stone worked for Poseidon for a while on their rebreather line
John
So awesome, thank you for the clarity
Gus and Woody, please interview Dr. Stone. His Wikipedia is wild
Yall are the reason i want to get outside and do more with my body. It’s amazing what we can do
I can't stress enough how much i love this channel. The experiment is mind blowing, seeing the scrubber completely dry is wild ! Why though is this not in every rebreathers ?
Because all it takes is a small hole and complacency to have someone inhaling caustic. Simply not worth the risk as a commercial product.
Just love the two of you. Your friendship makes this channel. Nondiver here but getting warm to the idea.
I randomly found this channel one day, and now I watch every one haha! I've never even gone snorkeling but I still enjoy these vida
@@ryanmiller3511 Same!
I tried snorkeling once, had a panic attack lmao. Still love this show though
No diver here, I want to learn. You two are in my top 10 channels. Your relationship really does make this channel and puts a warming face to the diving community
Gus just single-handedly got KISS to reissue the original Lunar. Now in orange!
You guys are awesome. Woody is so sure you're not going to make it he had the rescue plan all drawn up in his head. lol Another excellent video guys.
Gus have mercy! You are lookin so good! Woody glad you're all better. Love you both.
Gus: Don't post that we're idiots...
Woody: Well...
Love Woody’s dry sense of humor
Once upon a time lived two divers making the impossible possible ! 🐙🐟🐳🦄
I'm a non diver and been watching this channel for just over a year. I have to say this was super cool to see. I didn't even know this was a thing haha Thanks for the good content!
Bro im an auto mechanic and this looks like another genius invention that got scrapped because it was too good. I keep finding tech like this and its annoying. Idk if that actually happened with this one but i wouldnt be suprised 🤷🏾♂️ Too many greedy companies want products completely replaced and nonserviceable. Im really curious about the patent on that filter. Anyway love the content as always and glad ur safe 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
This is the most HGTV style episode of divetalk i've seen...love it 😂
I see a lot of people asking why this hasn’t been commercially available. Hopefully I can answer this question for all the above.
Early 2000s, the view was that rebreathers were becoming more and more common and affordability + performance was the key issue. Semipermeable membranes, SPMs, were secondary to keeping your potential base up. When only a few thousand units are sold per year, ensuring the price point is low enough/accessibility to continue sales was a large part of what drove the industry & design of CCRs. To this day, the trade off vs OC is price point, and huge complexity spike from open circuits. SPMs add to the complexity, albeit only slightly, design differences, and overall increase risk when pitched as a fault proofed rebreather. One moment of complacency and a single hole can make the redundancy useless.
In 2000s~, economic instability hit cis lunar particularly hard on the mk5?6? units, resulting in what we see today. People still swear by their product.
Even into early 2010s, the kiss rebreathers were incredible, but because of design and placement of the counter lung/diluent, “The specific problem with the Sidewinder is where you put that membrane. To prevent the first scrubber from getting wet, you would have to put it ahead of that scrubber and there is nowhere to add a water trap and OPV which is why the current device is in the counterlung. It's an inherent design flaw in the unit, albeit a minor one for most.”
Radial vs axial placement, increased cost to maintain after CL went under, and having to seal the entire unit, enough to essentially change over under water, meant that economically it was difficult to own or produce the device.
Last point I’ll make is R&D. Having a sealed scrubber sounds great, but without some innovation, the public domain materials that I know of would increase WOB greatly. It seems KISS eventually figured it out, as they’ve made sealed units now.
TLDR: cost, recession, design, and too few consumers to commercialize and capitalize upon meant that scaling production was, at that time, difficult.
"Hi I'm Woody" is such a pepper upper!! Thank you guys for what you dont. I dont dive but i bet yall have already saved more lives than you know. More lives than the divers themselves know. Awareness is a beautiful thing and you two are beautiful peoples. Love from Kentucky yall
I was always paranoid about diving. Then I have found this channel and videos like this: It shows that even when things go horribly wrong, there are plenty of failsafes.
Even in this vid, I was tensed up when I saw the bubbles coming from your rebreather. But you had fail safes and it was no problem, even if the rebreather would fail.
That took away a LOT of my fears. I have written to a diving school 5 minutes ago. I wanna try it out sooo bad now. Thank you for focusing on safety and lifting the fear of a lot of non divers and maybe for giving me a new hobby?
Awesome! Enjoy the Try Scuba session at the local dive shop!
@@DIVETALK Im Sure I will. Still can't believe that I went from scared sh**less to super excited in a few months.
@@Fox_on_a_Rollercoaster let your local dive shop know about Dive Talk, maybe they can tune in and see what inspired you to go diving!
@@DIVETALK 100%
I'm sure the question where I got the inspiration from is coming anyway^^
Diving is not really common here. Not at all I think. Let's change that.
"next week when you eat again -- do you want Chick Fil A or Burger King?" woody and gus are hilarious
I can hear Edd yelling “shut the DSV before you do anything”. 😂
I like how you all could've done this the first time in a safer environment like a pool or something and just did some small tests, but ya'll just went ahead and dove fully with it. Absolute madlads and I love it!
Que? I thought that wasn't possible as a rebreather tech diver but Gustavo you always amaze me
The cut to the clip from Rocky 4 was perfect.
They are experimenting with the editing and I'm here for it. The "bruuh" was necessary too lol
Awesome video!
Side note - Gus, I definitely don't want to come off the wrong way and offend, but you're looking SO GOOD! As a mama losing her last baby's post partum weight I know how hard you must be working to see this kind of progress!! Way to go Gus!
I believe CIS lunar was the rebreathers that Bill Stone Developed to push the sumps at Cheve and huatlah. Awesome to see one in action! Would love to pick Mike's brain, about the development of the KISS version
They should make more of these, its literally bullet proof 😮
Not something you want to rely on, definitely. But for it to be a possibility when all backups fail is still amazing. Glad to hear this vintage canister is being made once again.
Gus looking great man I know you have to be feeling amazing 👍👍
holy Sh*t Gus ur looking better and better every video! Keep it up man!!!
It's so crazy to me how much I love this channel, having never dove and might not ever. I'd like to but living in Oklahoma it's not the easiest or cheapest hobby to have.
Considering how well this worked, and how old the tech is, I’m really baffled this feature isn’t standard on rebreathers. Legitimately it sounds too good to be true; I’d love to see some follow up on the reasons why this isn’t used in modern rebreather units.
They don’t make these canisters anymore
@@DIVETALK Well they should? :)
It could be a few things, either the material or procedure to make it is too expensive, the material to make it is too scarce, too few situations where it would actually be beneficial for the diver, or too redundant since they have a bailout tank to use which would drop the number of times it could be useful even more or some combination of those to justify its production. There just isn't a big enough need for it, at least for now, to be produced.
Everyone knows rebreathers are pure markup. They cost far less than the 10k people pay to make them. They know their market and would rather get more money than sell a superior product. Capitalism pure and simple.
I'd like to know as well and if anyone could answer, it would be Mike. I'm guessing it's more the risk rather than materials. Breathable materials exist and have advanced since that was made, eg at a very simplistic level, Goretex. But I'm thinking there's a risk that if you could safely flood a rebreather, people may think it's ok to dive without a bailout tank. Especially given cave diving can be getting you + gear through tight restrictions. So leave bailout behind, explore further. It'll be fine, right? Or another recovery job for Edd. I'm also thinking it might be a maintenance issue, so care for your membrane or being able to tell if it's degrading because that's also a SoL issue. So much like with rebreathers in general. I can't (or shouldn't) be able to wander into a dive shop or buy one on ebay because there are many ways to die. I did rebreather certification 20yrs ago and remember a big part of that was about understanding and caring for your rebreather.
Looking Good Gus! You too Woody. Stay safe, I dont want to see you guys hurt.❤
You guys with the sorbs are simply adorbs!
I just want to say you look great Gus. Keep up the good work
I want to say thank you to Gus and Woody for your content. It's relaxing and very informative. I thought I heard you say you live in ATL, I'm in Bham, AL. I'm open water certified but always had problems understanding the calculations on the dive card for multiple dives. So I learn alot from you both. You can tell you're good hearted people and that you care. You both remind me of The Dukes of Hazzard..... everyone gets along at the end of the day! You are refreshing compared to alot of other TV content. I'm not sure if you have reviewed the following, but I wanted to share the name of the link on TH-cam. It's called: SUCKED THROUGH A TINY HOLE-BYFORD DOLPHIN INCIDENT. Feel free to say hello to me... Ron, from Alabama!
Oh the screaming goat was great! So glad you didn't die, Gus.
Omg how cute are the little heads captioning what you are saying under water! 😊
17:30 If Dive Talk doesn't upload anything for the next few days, I'd assume US Navy has something to do with it.
I imagine there's a practical maximum operating limit (pressure) for the Semi-Permeable membrane that this uses to keep the water out of the sorb, as there would be a pressure differential across it given that air is a compressible substance while water is not. At some depth the water would inevitably breakthrough and flood the sorb leading to the caustic cocktail they mentioned.
Going deeper wouldn't change the pressure differential across the membrane. The absolute pressure would be higher on both sides of the membrane, but the differential pressure is caused by breathing only.
@@baginthewind4501 You make a good point. I suppose it depends on where that diluent is added to the loop (upstream or downstream of the membrane) when the diver changes depth which is a real possibility given the task loaded situation.
Pressure should play no role in how it effects the inside of the canister, especially if navy divers used this unit.
Awesome video you guys! I've only seen this done once before with the Megaldon both ccrs are absolute tanks!
Looking super healthy Gus. Congrats!
Gus brother you look freaking amazing keep up the good work!!!!!
I know nothing about diving, but you guys are extremely educational and entertaining 😂! I have been hooked on your channel for sometime, keep up the great content guys. Stay safe❤
I love this. Woody: "It's poison." Gus: "It's fine."
Way to go Gus! Great transformation
Thank you 🙏 Dive Talk for the great information brothers!!
Gus: "I'm holding the camera up with my arm during a video intro, but hear aquatic activities behind me and need to look and ensure the people are safe."
Keep doing what you're doing. I was diagnosed with asthma almost a year ago, so my dream to scuba dive can never come true anymore. But you still can, so do what you love to your heart's content.
Hey brother wash some grapefruits and peel them , then boil the peels in water from about 10 min and drink the “tea” of your boil every morning and every night until your asthma is super reduced and if you do it for long enough completely gone ,
I have had asthma since 18 and drank the tea every day and I’m 25 now and it’s gone , i still drink it once In awhile .
Btw *it’s really bitter*
I have recommend this to 5 friends and family and they don’t have asthma anymore .
Some people are born with asthma and grow out of it but I never did until I tried this grapefruit thing.
My family has a history of severe asthma asthma , like daily asthma attacks and a nebulizer at home and even school .
Worth the try ! I will start diving soon and my asthma is what has really held me back🎉
Have you had your vitamin D levels checked?
My cousin has quite bad asthma, but it was aggravated by a deficiency in vitamin D.
When i see a new video from you guys, it makes my day. You are the best!
Always love your enthusiasm. I didn’t know you were on a fitness quest but I had been noticing you looked thinner. I guess I should have thought there was a reason for the fasting. Congratulations, you look great!!👍
Even though you are 100% sure about the theory and the consequences, please don't test it in reality because it could have taken a toll on your life under water especially in the over head environment.
Because you have had always condemned the divers for not being cautious during a cave dive so compared to that this is super dangerous when you are volunteering to test a product despite being aware about the side effects.
Wish you all the best and please shoot and upload your dives so that we can get to learn lot more. ❤
BEFORE - Looking good guys! Nah haven't seen the vid yet so good luck.
AFTER - Nice job you did well obviously - could feel the happiness from here.
That weight off has taken ten years with it.
Edit... seriously that guy is looking fiiiiiiine.
8:39 oh thumbs up? Looks like Gus owes everyone tacos
Lmaoooo Woody's icons are hilarious, maybe you should add them for the channel members so they can use them on your live chat, thats a great incentive, Woodys face as emoji 😅
They’ve been there for members since day 1 😎
Not only does this Chad test this supposed fail safe out, he does it in a cave! 🏀🏀!
Gus, next work, it’s good to see it is possible for this tech to help make your dives more save.
Stay frosty Woody and Gus, still loving your videos. ❤❤
Gus is looking so sexy with all this weight he's lost. We're proud of you, dude!
That screaming goat is actually exactly how I imagine Woody would sound like if he shrieked 😂
This is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time...
Gus you are looking great! Very fit! I'm doing the same thing losing weight and getting back in shape. I've cut back on fast food and pop... mostly haha. The 10 hour shifts of walking at work have gotten way easier and clothes are fitting better. Good luck man! I feel so much better then I did before, like last year!
Woody looks like a rock star Gus looks like a fitness instructor!! I love it
I've heard Woody make the comparison with car batteries a couple of times when talking about the caustic nature of the scrubber. Car batteries are acidic not basic. They contain diluted sulphuric acid. Love your stuff, keep up the good work!
the membrane on the outside is a semipermeable membrane like your cell walls. they are very expensive to produce but have some great advantages when it comes to flooding a rebreather and preventing channeling in the sorbe. I think that now the membrane should be a lot cheaper because they are more common and we could see this coming to other rebreathers soon.
I, like everybody else, can’t imagine why this wouldn’t be widespread. On the note that it might be military use only, it would be a cool video to review what SEALs use, maybe with Mr. ballen sharing what he’s allowed to from his time doing it. A video of you guys diving together would also be awesome.
Very cool video and nice to know some diving history too.
Gus is looking in great shape since last time I watched. Good job dude!
a big rebreather company should find who owns the patent on that and buy it or lease it. tech like that should not be left in the past.
Awesome job! Great content as always!
That may be your last breath! -Woody
Awesome content as always.
Shalom from the beautiful mountains of NC🇺🇸
Your channel is addictive.
Awesome video guys, as always
You can use ExtendAir Absorbent Cartrid. You can pour water over it and you have 5 minutes to empty the counterlung scrubber and the loop.
You guys need to do a van tour, man that van looks nice.
Ha, pretty cool video!
It is a bit mind boggling that this thing is 25 years old!
Gus, I love your cute little matching Minions helmet and flippys. Always had a feeling you were a Minionatic
Lmao the woody subtitles 😂
Why did Mike stop making these? Aewsome unut!
Security through obscurity. Just because it works people who get to comfortable could end up making more problems for themselves if they dont have the experience of what to do next if things take a turn. Obviously you would just switch to open circuit if it failed.
Gus, you look like you’ve lost an entire person in terms of your weight. It’s genuinely astounding.
As a naturally skinny guy, I can tell you with confidence that neither I nor 99% of your viewers know the amount of work it takes to lose that weight and keep it off.
From everything I’ve seen and read (not experienced, I’m privileged to not have to deal with being overweight), it takes effort just short of moving a mountain to make the changes you’re making. It is an entire lifestyle shift in every aspect. I’d love to hear more about your experience in general.
You guys are both metabolic gas masters, so I’m sure you’re aware, but 80% of that weight you lost, Gus, you lost through respiration. Exhaling the broken down fat as CO2 accounts for nearly all of the weight lost. That’s a LOT of breathing to fuel a LOT of hard work.
I’m rambling now, but I’ve never been diving, I’ve watched you guys for literally years, and I’m just so happy for you, Gus. Both of you bring me a lot of joy.
Thts amazing I can definitely see the science Mikes very smart amazing system thanks for the video how long can you dive on that type of rebreather
Gus you look like you have lost some weight. Looking good brother! Working on this myself. Keep it up.
Great video. Gus you're looking so healthy lately, keep up the great work brother! 👍👍
The question burning in my head is : Why is not in production anymore? 😢 (I remember seen that canister in my desk for a few days not long ago 😊)
I don’t know for certain, but that scrubber is so rare that even if it was in production I’m not really sure how many of these exist out in the world. Maybe less than 20 globally. Who knows.
Damn how much weight have you shed dude? I'm inspired rock on! 💪🏻
crazy what they could create in the past, i asked an expert what it would take to recreate this and they said "we can't, we don't know how"
Great job and Gus you look fabulous.
New dive talk content grab your snorkel and flippers let's get some Bubba burgers then enjoy some diving
This channel is always uploading great content, love it
IDK if its the same stuff, but the Russian navy used to use something that wasn't just toxic but would explode on contact with water.
Gus comes up from his dive sounding like Tom Waits
There is a video on Blue world of a diver rebreather turning caustic.
Great invention by Mike Young!
If he dies…he dies! Favorite movie Line of all time.
Your van needs the anti theft eindow cages ad well as "slicklock" kit
Been a while since I last checked in, hope you guys are doing well!
Haha so cool! Great video! After all the joking in the intro I was surprised at how much as was still on the edge of my seat! Haha
Thats incredible.
Since you guys seem to be getting a lot deeper into the technical aspects of rebreather diving, I would like to hear what you think of the safety record for rebreathers. There was a pretty good presentation from Rebreather Forum 4 where DAN tried to estimate the rebreather fatality rate and found that it was around 2-4 per 100,000 dives. That would mean that as many as 1 in 25 divers on average wouldn't live long enough to see their 1000th rebreather dive. This would put rebreather in a comparable category as some of the more extreme danger sports.
That's totally fascinating!
Even in videos where yall are together in person, the orientation is the same, Woody on our left, and Gus on our right :)
That screaming goat edit was on point ...lol
Awesome guys 🫡🫡
great experience. thank you. one thing I don’t understand : if the loop is fully flooded why don’t the sensors get wet from the inhale side (where the special membrane would not protect anything) ?