How Fast Is The 200 HP Ford Fiesta ST? Hot or Not Review
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Had one for 5 years and 155k miles. Made 300whp with a bigfer turbo etc. Loved every second. Very reliable
Bought a new 2017 one back in March for a lil over $16K. I have never been happier or prouder of a purchase.
I know 200hp isn't 'fast', but I'm currently driving a 155hp Mazda 3 manual that weighs in at a solid 200lbs heavier than the Fiesta, so it's still gonna be a decent step up for me. Plus I can take out a muffler or cat and be extra roudy. The idling skyactiv engine sounds like it has a bag of rocks in the pan.
does your '17 ST have the Recaros? i'm trying to decide if they're worth it or not. Plus, i'm kind of a big guy at 6'2', 255. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers!
@@turbogeoduck1 I don't know for sure but see if Matt Farah had recaro's in his FiST. He's not a small dude.
@@turbogeoduck1 I may be a little too late since your comment was posted over 2 months ago, but I got a chance to sit in both the regular seats and the Recaros and personally I thought the Recaros were too agressive for daily driving. The regular seats are much more comfortabl, at least in my opinion. The only drawback would be that you dont get a heated seat option without the recaros, but in California that isnt really a problem.
@@turbogeoduck1 I test drove both with and without the Recaros and I bought a used 2017 without them. I think they would be great for someone slightly smaller than me, but for anyone above the 6' mark or slightly overweight they are a bit uncomfortable.
I love seeing Paul on this channel. Good guy.
4:14 pulls its back wheel off the track. Ok, I want one now.
I have the 2014 ST and I love it, it has 55,000 miles and I’m on my 4th set of tires, that’s how much I love it. Great fuel economy and handle like a go kart. I just put a set of Mitchlen Sport Pilot A/S 3+ and there the best tires I’ve ever had.
What tires have you tried previously? I had the non plus version and I wasn't too impressed. They were alright.
Why so many tires? Wtf
@@tweedpenguin712
Because I drive hard in turns, and actually I’m on my 6th now, at 98,800. I have them rotated every 5,000 miles. I have the Pilot Sport Michelin A/S 4’s, I had two sets of the A/S 3+, there warranty was 45,000 miles and I wear them out at 20,000+ so the pro rate them so get the next set for $480 it’s a deal, they grip so good, and there smooth riding and quiet and never track on freeway grooves. Highly recommend these tires. The Fiesta Flash 🤙🏼🍺🍺
New Euro ST gives you true drive modes that increase throttle and exhaust tone in sport mode more so in track...or economy it shuts down a cylinder to get over 40 mpg....performance package $1500ish quaife limited slip dif and launch control button...I bought a 2018 it's great but would've certainly bought the euro version instead
Same here.
The newly redesigned Focus and ST are currently available in Europe and might be European Car of the Year. Great time to discontinue it in the US market Ford!
Bruce Solomon Exactly! I have a green 2014 FiST, but I was interested in the redesign. Ford screwed us over!
Everyone says they want a Miata wagon in manual, but not enough people bought the Fiesta ST. Sadface.
FORD, america's company..... if they wanted these cars to sell like they do in Europe, how about a dual clutch. America doesn't drive sticks like Europe.
Bruce Solomon makes no sense at all.
Screw you FORD for taking all the fun CARS away from the USA. Now we are stuck with tippy, high riding, boring SUV’s and trucks. Not everyone wants a gas hog truck or SUV. Now the imports are going to continue to just destroy you in sales. Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, hell even Mini now have the car market all to themselves. Just wait unit the price of gas spikes again and y’all have no product to sell. Dumb asses.
Not gonna consider an 8.5sec 0-60mph as valid from a test in Colorado. I'm in Texas, so it'll be a good deal faster down here.
I'm about to buy one because of TFL Often described as the funnest car you can buy for the money! Can't wait-
7 seconds at sea level.
I’ve been driving mine for 2 years, I just stumbled on these videos, and when this car slides I never feel out of control, great little car, but now I’m looking for a truck
Same 3-cylinder in the brandnew Focus Mk4 - 18hp less! We tested and filmed it. Still not a bad engine...
And ford is killing all these cars off. Yay ford.
Cuz people need cars that drive for them, why would they want a car you have to actually drive..Sounds boring....LOL
Wow my first thumbs down... 👎 I get that VW doesn’t loan cars to you, but why make us think you’re doing an actual comparison video with one? You’re my hero TH-cam channel! Stay 100. Let this be a blip...
Just Me, I agree; TFL generally does a pretty good job but is starting to fall into the clickbait trap more and more IMO. I know channels like this live by clicks and with the current TH-cam algorithm, it makes it tough but it still doesn’t feel right and honorable when I see it.
It doesn’t understeer because it has a torque vectoring diff. It does send power to both front wheels when needed.
It makes 197 crank with overboost on 03 octane what fuel was in this?. I got mine to 6.5 completely stick at sea level
Great shirt Roman, rode Triumphs for several years!
Badass lil car, id crash so fast pretending to be Ken Block if i got it
not if you get the RS
Please keep up these hot or not with Paul. My favorite. What car have you driven that is as much fun or near that is bigger yet still not expensive? Looking for a little more room.
Hot. That's why I bought one.
That Fiesta is impressive. Will need to have some serious challenger since an underdog has no chance of competing against that home advantage. That being said, would love to see my car go up against the ST. Here in Canada (if both brand new), it actually cost $7K less then the ST.
Hope you guys manage to find a 2017 Civic LX 6MT (would need summer rubber to not get embarrassed). Probably the only less expensive car in production that can challenge the ST.
Civic LX Sedan (Hatchback has the Turbo vs 2.0L in the Sedan)
8 second 0-60 is not impressive 😂
@@tweedpenguin712 since ST is old new, perhaps time for basic Civic for replacement
Hi, I just saw Ford promoting a 2019 fiesta ST stage 3??? Get one of those to drive. Good driver review Paul.
In Ford’s marketing perspectives “European= fun performance Manuel car! Americans= big boring SUV automatic cars” so lets discontinue all the fun cars in America
There is another agenda at play here. Ford is not the only car maker quietly doing away with the manual transmission. They are also doing away with the normal automatic transmissions and are all going to these new garbage CVT monstrosities that are nothing but a $4000 rubber belt that wears out around 30K-100K miles so you have to either buy another transmission or buy another crap car. Planned obsolescense all under the fake premise of "govt mandated fuel econonmy" . HOGWASH! That has NOTHING to do with it! They could make the normal style vehicles get 80 mpg if they wanted to but they are in cahootz with Big Oil so they must scratch each other's backs. This whole CVT thing is also so the govt can control our cars remotely due to them being run off some kind of programmable computer disc. More govt CONTROL is what it all boils down to and every time the govt sticks their big long hook nose into our business......we get a good screwing and nothing ever is the same again.
in 1970 Ford made a 1600cc 4cyl 16valve WITHOUT a turbo and called it the Escort RS1600, with just 120bhp that did 0-60 in the same time as this 1600 turbo 2018 car with 200bhp ! progress!!??
Im sure that car was a lot lighter also so power to weight ratio was much better in the old ford.
Holy shit! I just traded my Raptor for a fiesta ST
2019 US. It has no oh shit handles and has no hanger hooks. Be wary of the transmission sometimes it sticks. When you push the start button sometimes it doesn't start for 10 seconds or so. Only the driver's window has express up-and-down. Sunroof only has express open not close. Engine makes non rpm noise. Finger controls such as blinkers and wipers could be more ergonomic designed. 1/2 moon storage below A/C useless anything will fall out. Hard to see traffic out right rear window corner even with rear headrests collapsed. ST should be fully loaded. Mine came without heated seats. However, seats are durable cloth unlike cold leather needing heat. Having said all that I dig the car white on black..
Idk why but the tires close up looked like the tires had waves n stuff in the sidewalls by the treads .like the tires got pushed too hard and crinkled or stretched..weird
No GTi in the video? And no Drag Race between the ST and the GTi.. :(
I chuckle a little when I see a fiesta ST not gonna lie.
Paul Gerard!
I'd rather have a tick of understeer than a tick of oversteer for going fast. For playing and having fun.. I'll take the oversteer
Test an early C4 Corvette that cost around $5,000, But make sure it is maintained and has new tires on it.
Where was the GTI??
Nvr Dwn about six cars below the ford on the list towards the end.
My fiesta came with pilot sports
Doom Guy
...silver rims come with the pilot sport all seasons, black rims come with Bridgestone potenza summer tires
The st fiesta is the best car ever
Ford should be invoiced for the 'commercial,..shouldn't they??
It is a fun car to run around in, isn't it, it's a pity it's to be discontinued,..but sales numbers don't lie,...folks just are not buying car nowadays!
Reg Sparkes the American people only want big pointless cars like the Challenger..😂😂
Without any marketing campaign, of course sales are down. How do you buy a product, if you don't know it exists. LOL
To sell the fiesta, focus, fusion, etc. One does not need to be number one. How about top 5 or even top 10??
Honda and Toyota has great car sales. The problem with Ford is the quality of the cars they are selling. I bought a regular Ford fiesta as a commuter and it was nothing but junk, the transmission was constantly slipping, multiple electrical issues, and the dealer didn't want to warranty some of the issue while the car had less than 5000 miles on it.
Well, folks are buying Ford's most iconic models, the F-series trucks (71 years, over 40 million sold) and the Mustang (54 years, over 9 million sold). Both outsell the competition, so Ford gives them more love. Fusion & Flex are recommended buys from Consumer Reports. I'm surprised they didn't get rid of the Focus, which has similar problems to the Fiesta.
cadsux ... Actually they FORD is stopping production of the focus. They are going to replace with a cross-over focus type. Something like a subaru type... YUK!!
The tuner cars from FORD are dead!!
Sweet!!! Too bad I'm six feet 6 inches tall LOL
hey look, its Herman Munster.....hahahaha
I'm 6" and comfortably fit in my fiesta without the seat being all the way back and I'm a hefty guy too and it's fairly spacious even for me
I’m 5’6. Please donate 6” and we’ll be even. 😁😁
I’m 6’2” and the car fits me perfectly your back seat will be nonexistent but you can 100% fit this car
Bryant Monroe
That was my problem with the mk7 fiesta ST ,. I felt squashed .
Oddly my Girls mate has a 1.2 Zetec
Which feels a bit more roomier , I think the Chunky ST Seat makes less room.
I settled on the focus st
I;m really considering a Mustang GT for 42k Or Fiesta ST for 20k
Did you decide? 😳
Wish we could get the LSD in the states... :(
But that is the old one? Its nok the new MK8??
you guys obviously don't know what you're doing on the 0-60 runs.my 2014 focus with 160 odd h.p stock could do it in 7.5 seconds. it's a much larger car with less h.p...even when u factor in altitude, your numbers just don't compute.
You obviously don’t know what happens to horsepower at a mile above sea level 😉
just as fast...half a second is well within the margin of error for using a phone app as a stop watch
8.55 smh. I mean it's a rally car not a drag racer. For less than 1k 🇺🇸 you can get it into the 3-4 second range.
For 5k you can make it stupid.
Fun Fact - A Ford Fiesta in Mexico is called a Ford Party.
So we get the Mexican name for party "Fiesta" and Mexico gets the American name for Fiesta "Party"........Now that's some clever Orwellian marketing for you.
You keep forgetting about the 500 Abarth
I want one
FiST ST 2016-2019 197 HP not 200HP, it would be nice....
Wow big difference
awesome time Paul 107! too bad Tommy lol t
I only go for Honda but this little fiesta is getting my attention ! I don't know I hope is reliable because ford are not very reliable cars.
I have a 2016 Focus ST with 108000 all stock. Surprisingly Ford drew my attention and proved me wrong. Only thing that sucks is that the interior quality consist of hard plastic but as far as performance, a true bang for buck.
faster than mustang gt and civic si... not bad
In 8.8 seconds?
I think you forgot to bring in VW GTI...
The Fiesta's lap time was almost 2 seconds faster then the VW GTI.
VW is overpriced
St200 with 5 doors? Never saw that one b4
demiru North American spec.
Raced one that had Cobb parts yesterday. He lost lol...
I used to drive a boring ass corolla then I trade it in for a fun drive fiesta st 2016 I just love it but at the same time I get a lot of hate specially from black ppl they always try to race me even though that some of them own a Camaros or charger which is different league they think I'm driving a Ferrari and not only that some of them with Impalas always cut me in traffic then staring at me then they do it again in purpuse none of this happen to me when I have mine basic model corolla. ( I'm not racist ) this my experience with my baby ST
I respect the Ford rs as a car. But I just don't like the way it looks
Nice! I just ordered one:-)
200 hp is actually a lot! My Speed3 only has 70 more and it is too fast for me!
this car probably has the same if not better power to weight ratio which is all that matters. the speed3 is too over priced even used cost more than a fiST
Here you can get a used Mazda speed 3 cheaper than a used Fiesta ST I believe, I almost got one but the crazy torque steer and unruly nature kind of scared me away from it, I haven't driven one though. Some people say it's not that bad, others say it's a bit nuts.
@musical roses Might as well get a FiST Then, it's more refined than the Mazdaspeed 3 I think.
@musical roses Nice, so you have a Fiesta ST now? How do they compare so far? I've never actually driven a Mazdaspeed3.
isnt that too much caution , to wear a helmet ? what do you expect a godzilla gonna run across front of you?
As fast as the st 200..... we already had one, why is this still a question? This isnt a NEW thing.
music way too loud.
What in U.S. there is no 2018 fiesta st ?
Blastez YT yes there is a 2018 but there won't be a 2019. In Europe they have the new one for 2018 while in the US it stayed the same as the 2017 for it's last year here.
Michael Reitz thank you
The fiesta is just to small. You gotta be a smaller adult to feel comfortable driving it IMO. Looks ugly all around which doesn’t help either.
Where’s the GTI?
Agreed. Bring a real German.
Those tires are trashed. Car stops on a dime. The power drops before 5,000 rpm. You dont redline in this car. The pedal are close haha do u have midget feet. You weren't driving fast. Didn't see the tire lift once
Is it less boring then a Corolla? Is it as slow as cvt/nissan/Subaru? Who cares these are simple little cars that are uncomfortable and are cheap for kids and poor people
Muscle cars and German cars are piles of shit for low self-esteem and insecure people.
190hp correction
197*
So I guess we will stop buying Ford cars in America
It looks like we have no choice, John !
Not Mustangs, fortunately.
Not
Great for college students but not for the long term
Do not like the looks of the new Fiesta, or the Focus. So disappointed.
John Grytbakk same for all their cars. Ford seems to have a talent for ugly. No doubt they perform well, but...
Walt's Channel I agree I don’t like the ford fusion
Same here, the previous ST Fiesta looked better.
So get the old one, used cars are much better value anyway.
Who gets the car for $18k? Where does that nonsense come from? I got mine after 5 hrs of haggling down to about $19k
Barry Benkendorf got mine for 17k 19 OTD 60 miles north of Dallas
T. Ham and thats the 2018 model? What package?
T. Ham I also had a trade in that was pretty upside down and they gave a lot more for it than kelley blue book value. Keeley blue book was higher than what they gave me on the car at the dealership. It seems they gave me a good deal
Barry Benkendorf 2017 base 0 miles no recaros
T. Ham yeah mine was a 2018 with no recaros
Compare it against a new Civic Si......im curious. 🤼
BaileyPaws similar cars.. I think the ST would be quicker around that course, and 0-60 short wheelbase hatchbacks love Corning... but the civic will shine in real life driving.. the new Si is a bullet on the highway for what it is..
The Si is faster in a straight line. It did an 8.02 vs the fiesta st 8.55 when it was 0-60 tested. The fiesta will perform better on this specific track because of its smaller frame which is better for a corner mostly track like this one
Not a fan of the Civic si at all, I wanted to like it but it doesn't handle at all, the Fiesta runs rings around it. We tested it last year.
If I'm not mistaken the Si was listed on the list of lap times and it was near the bottom. And the new Si isn't very fast at all. I raced a couple with my Focus ST and I easily pulled away. The previous generation was faster.
Michael Reitz wrong. Stop pulling shit out of your ass. Coming from the last gen Si and this gen Si, the new one is easily faster and it isn't even close. Even the current gen non Si civic is fastee than the previous gen Si.
Trade it for a down payment on the new ram
200hp lol more like 170
197hp not 170hp
@@billyegg31 at the crank. Take parasitic loss into account and wear over time.
@@MG-ko6jf at the crank it's around 180 n 185 cause i seen many stock fiesta STs on a dyno and the crazy part is the have more than 202tq i swear i seen 2 that put around 220tq
Abarth is way more fun and faster.
When are there a new Sarah review?
Monday
Thanks a lot. :)
Traded the Ford Raptor in for a Ford Fiesta ST.. DEFINITELY an upgrade.
The Raptors are so over rated and actually the ratings are starting so show its not that great as they have been out for a while . The Fiesta ST is really under rated but are not gaining the credit they deserve
Not
These fast tiny cars are fun in Europe they have a new Fiesta ST !!!!! Well that's even better how come we don't have it ?
It's all about useable power
I'm glad you like it, I do, as a matter of fact I have the exact same car, same color, same wheel and caliper colors, same seats. I have a 16 and after 2 years still love it just as much as the test drive. And things like oak spacers (for heel toe) and short throw shifters and all kinds of mods are relatively inexpensive and plentiful. Nice video guys
I feel like my st accelerates quite a bit faster.
you might be closer to sea level
I'm going to miss little STs running around. It's getting harder and harder to find fun, sporty cars. I wish my dearest Lexus made an IS wagon, with a 6 speed...but that won't happen in this lifetime 😔
LEXUriouS Kirk Lexus is slow and very heavy
Chase Short right? Lol. Not fun at all.
I can't believe I don't see a Focus ST on the leader board.
One of the worst places in the United States to speed test a car. Easily a six second (and a few tenths) 0-60 car. Would love to see what a tune would do.
The Fiesta will be available until May 2019. There will be 2019 models, because Ford can still sell lots of them in Central/South America. They're even doing an "ST Line," like in Europe, where hot hatches are popular, that looks a lot like an ST, but has the standard engine/transmissions/brakes/suspension.
I swapped out my wheels for 16" TD 1.2 and Firestone Firehawk Indy 500s for the street went up in sidewall as well, feels great
Spencer Forman great tire choice bro. Love my Indy 5’s
I don't know why they never made these in an AWD platform. That is probably why Subaru had the advantage with these types of cars.
Subaru's are way bigger though, more in the line of a Focus, and that does have an AWD platform
Metalbass79 yeah brother just get the focus rs if thats what you are looking for
You want them to spend the money on adding AWD to a car no one buys?
728 Autos I just figured they would've sold better if they made them AWD. Especially in states with snow. I've never understood why American manufacturers let Subaru corner the market on that. I'm an F150 and V8 Mustang guy but I do talk to a lot of people at auto meets. A lot of them with a Subaru or AWD Mitsubishi said that they loved the ST because it was light and fast, but the AWD swayed them elsewhere.
Metalbass79 adding AWD to something isn't going to make it sell better. The market numbers show this. Sure it might tickle the fancy of us enthusiast but we are but a small niche and niche products aren't going to be money makers for Ford.
these cars look soooo much better with 15' or 16' wheels.
Fist!
I want the Focus RS
bernard_hossmoto I want 40 grand
You can get a used one for 30 k or under.
chris johnson Yeah with blown gaskets. No thanks.
8.55; I’ve seen guys do 6.9 at 1700 feet
w w w w w waiiiiitttttt! This car has been out 4 years and only now are some people noticing it?
All you do is race this little fiesta around a track, race other cars. This car gets the crap beat out of it. It will be a real test of reliability.
We do not understand ..... if the Ford factory ... they have this great exterior design ... little air resistance .... little fuel consumption ..... so why not have this introduction .... and design for each Ford Models .... For example ... Ford Explorer
jj rr because you would get a big oversized fiesta looking van thing
This video is 3 years late
Need one as my daily driver
Jonathan L I want one so bad I’m looking right now
Wanna buy mine?
Conner Matthie yes, are you in the midwest?
I'll stick with the Fiesta R5 EVO...
197* btw not 200 but 202 ilb of torque
Cool car!