That little dip at 250Hz is called mud cut in studio jargon. 125Hz is also a common slider in popular graphic EQs. If you want deeper bass, you just drag that slider down.
I’m looking for my next gaming headset and TH-cam search lead me here, on your channel. First of all, you did a very good job. Finally I found a review that covers all important topics, that has a proper depth from information perspective and all of that is presented in a clear and concise way by someone who actually knows what they are talking about. And for that - hats down! Secondly, after viewing a dozen other reviews, that are plain shit because they provide completely opposite information from one another, your review actually convinced me to buy these headphones, because finally I have all the answers that I need to make a proper decision. So, good job really. And you gained a sub, hope that your channel grows even more.
Thanks man. I'm about to buy this one tonight. The price is currently $199.99 on their website. Other sites still have it at $250 which is quite weird. But you were very informative and helped me to make my decision. Your sub and like has been earned:)
The mic quality and audio quality is my primary factor in shopping for headsets currently. And this review backed up that after shortlisting and then landing on these I found the right wireless headset for what I want. Now unfortunately it seems virtually all listings of these disappeared the day after landing on them. I am debating whether to jump on buying them from a store that still has them in stock or wait to see if Beyerdynamic releases something to take their place (though I can't say that I am feeling super hopeful on that)
I was actually going to go for the Maxwell Audeze, it was difficult to get in The Netherlands and right now, I'm seriously considering the Beyerdynamic. A big sell for me personally is how good the sound quality is when not using the detachable mic. Now to see if stock for this is better than for the Maxwell.
I got this in the US a few days ago and I'm lovin in. My main reason for not going over with Maxwell was it's weight. This one is relatively lighter and I can go on for hours without having to take it off. Also it's a bit cheaper. No doubt Maxwell beats it in sound quality, but that's not to say this one isn't great. I rather compromise a teeny bit on sound for comfort since this is primarily for gaming on PC.
Thank you for your reply, I'll be rewatching the review when I have more time. I don't recall what the battery life is, if this has been mentioned. How long can you go on one charge and how long does it take to recharge?
@@Soei23 it says you should get around ~30hrs, but tbh I'm been getting more than that, very possibly because I dont game more than 2-3hr a day and rest of the time it either just some videos here and there or music, so I wanna say that's another 2-3 hrs. I'll basically I'm not pushing it more than 5hrs of active usage per day. So probably why I'm getting more than estimated. I'm not really very concered about it as long as I don't have to keep charging everyday I'm good. And frankly this is mainly for my PC, so it's just sitting near there , if I need to charge and I can continue using it while it charges. The USB wire is solely for charging, you cannot use it for sound, it's connected wireless while it charges The only way it works wired if you get that 3.5mm to usb type c cable like the reviewer stated.
@@Soei23 I had the Maxwells for about 4 months, the sound quality is amazing - but it is not without it's flaws. I ended up having to get a refund for them a few days ago as the right ear cup just decided to die on me, this was in spite of me handling them like a newborn the whole time I owned them. There was also issues with the side tone always hissing and making this white noise. I may be in the minority, so I don't want to dissuade you, but there were definitely a lot of other people experiencing this issue. While I might be a loud minority, it's definitely worth taking into consideration if you are in a country where the Customer service of the distributor isn't very good. It's sad because I really loved the Maxwell's for the sound and I never had an issue with the weight personally.
Hey Joe, do you happen to know if there will be aftermarket earpads for these? Loving the headset so far, but velour earpads on these would make em fantastic for comfort. Great review!
I'm exactly in the place you talked about where for me all of these features are non significant and i just want a solid option with a "good" sound for music and games, for a wireless option, but the audeze maxwel are 400$ where i live so i think with these infos i'll go for the mmx 200, thanks a lot for the review
So update for everyone looking for it rigth now, the cable finally just came out, in its description on the official website, it says that if you use the Hybrid mode (analog and Bluetooth) the mic will go through the analog connection only, apparently you can’t change that if I’m not mistaking, could change in the future with some updates but this is how it works for now, in hybrid mode, analog and Bluetooth can both send sound to the headset at the same time but the mic will only go through the analog connection
Excellent review. Coming from the Astro A50 gen 4 which I used for almost 5 years I tried the Audeze Maxwells first and while they were great in a lot of ways (overall sound quality was probably the best I've heard) the imaging and sidetone were terrible and I ended up having to return them since I play a lot of FPS and team games and I couldnt live with them. I just ordered these yesterday as they appear to be a great option for me given my use case.
You're the only one that covers "gaming" segment and actually knows what he's saying. On other channel the reviewer said Logitech have better tuned sound and I closed the video xD Of course, it's always subjective but that's very measurable is pretty clear... As for longevity sadly I had some bad experience with Audeze gaming department (high pitch on-board amp, cushions falling apart FAST etc.) and in that department think that people would be happier with beyer, especially in Europe where it's easy to get different pads when available etc.
I've owned the MMX150 for over a year and they're my favorite so far except for 1 major flaw, the cable. It disconnects audio constantly due to the choice of using a usb-c and it slipping out slightly. It's a common problem with the 150s. Everything else I love, mic is amazing, imaging is great, list goes on. By far one of the best points is the audio passthrough allowing outside sounds in, its like you aren't wearing a headset at all. I'll be getting the 200s for sure.
You really suprised me with the depth sound quality section! I want to use this headset as a wireless all purpose headset and think this one seems the most potent of them all; 50% gaming, 25% Music/video, 25% music production and music devices (elektron rytm MK2) with studio master/mixing purposes. How would you think this device would blend into the music production kind category? For me it doesn't have to be amazing, but if it would work good to decent then I would be happy enough with it, just a step below professional.
My dream wireless headphone would be like the Maxwell without the mic. Ace the sound, comfort and have the weight below 400g and it would be all I need for gaming. Perhaps Sony could do it with the recent acquisition of Audeze. Nice review!
They look nice, but only 35 hours of battery life compared to my HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless is a big downside. How do you think they compare to the Cloud 3 Wireless in terms of Comfort and Audio Quality? Mostly for FPS games (Counter Strike)
not compare this 2... if its sounds like mine MMX150 its two differend sonds. Hyper high+bass no middle at all, this middle+high+accurate not fat bass. I like Hyper cloud 3 but its sounds pretty flat, i will sell it and return to my barracuda pro
Maybe an update: I was able to find and purchase the aux cable and it works perfectly. It also works through the USB cable with my macbook though. So It can be used as a bluetooth, 2.4 GHz wireless, USB or analog headset. Pretty versatile! I do miss a function to play next/previous song from the headset. And I would add that the button action is too loud for me, I prefer the buttons in a headset being as quiet as possible.
great review, yours is one of the few headphone yt channels i always enjoy absorbing. glad i didn't buy these, owning the maxwells, i see no alternative at this time. if only the maxwells were half the weight. as you mentioned, they own every genre of audio gaming except for fps, however, they don't suck at fps, only not as fantastic as others out there. stunning for music and movies as well.
My Maxwell’s right ear-cup died yesterday, I’ve been looking for alternatives and It looks like the Maxwell is still the king guess I’ll just get a replacement.
just picked up a pair of these to replace my old razer headphones for my laptop and i've had nothing but problems with the bluetooth mode. discord audio not playing while game audio is, game audio not playing while discord audio is,, switching between the two outputs that have completely different sound qualities (and subsequently causing the previous two issues when switching between them), discord audio playing but not picking up any input from the microphone on the headset, most issues are fixed with a complete unpair/repair with my laptop but then it starts all over again so i think there's a few kinks to work out with that mode and maybe they've released updates that do fix it. so far the wireless dongle mode seems to be working as intended but i've only been on it for literally 15 minutes so its too soon to really make a definitive opinion. i was a little worried because the box does seem to be missing a lot of "accessories" like the analogue cable as well as a usb c to usb a adapter, with my laptop only having one usb c port that i didnt know existed/didnt care to find out about until now and it sucks that it seems like i have to use the dongle for it to work properly, having one less thing to plug into my laptop or phone would be fantastic since its one less thing to break, one less thing to lose. for output alone, its great. i own a pair of dt 990s for my desktop and they're the best headphones i've ever owned and i can tell that the output quality on these comes right after, but with all the issues described above i think they're best for sole output with an external mic as your input
So I don't get what the big issue is if you don't have game to chat or eq - you can use steelseries sonar for every head set and tweak to your hearts desire?
I assume you already plan too, but can you please make a "Best of the year" in preparation for Black Friday/Cyber Monday. And maybe even just a community Post for Prime day in 3days, if you don't have time for a video etc. Do you have affliate links you can add too?
Somthing that could be said about using simultanius bluetooth and dongel. I am using Steelseries and its really frustrating that the microphone turns over to the phone before i have answered the call, that means i cant tell the people on Discord that im getting a call.
One day we will have a headset with the sound quality of maxwell, mic of the hs80 and comfort of I don’t know wich is the most comfy headset out there. Hope Astro a50 is listening and take the cake!
Just bought the HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless after seeing your review. I'm really having second thoughts if I should return them and by these instead for FPS..
Is there any news on ear pads for these yet? I bought a this headset last week. It's great but not comfortable after about 30 mins. I have no idea if the mmx 300 fits them I can't find anything and I'm constantly checking wicked cushions. Please help😢
Awesome review even with a cold! I’ve got a side question, I have a chance to buy an ace zone a-spire for $230. Would that be significant upgrade coming from a nova pro for FPS mainly cod? I’m on Xbox Thanks Joe and get to feeling better!
Another great review, thanks Joe If you compare this to the Nova 7 with your EQ tune, which one is better for COD? Also, does the MMX 200 get really loud like the Nova 7?
Thanks Famezy! Nova 7 is slightly louder if you disable the volume limiter. Slight edge to Nova with game specific EQ but overall this is incredibly close. I think most people will still be just as competitive.
I found your channel recently and I've been enjoying your reviews a lot! This one came at a perfect time because I'm looking for a new headset/headphones. Do you have experience with the MMX 100? How does it compare to the 200 in sound quality and comfort?
Did you hear about the new Bose QC ULTRA headphones ? Would you talk about it and give us some information about its specs please ? I've been waiting for it for long time now and still unavailable .
How do these compare to the sound of the Nova 7? I like the features of the Nova 7 more, but if the sound and comfort are way better on these, then I could justify the lack of those other features.
Great review, i love the nuances you include, I have a question for you, if you had to reccomend a wireless headset below $200 for gaming, but also gaming and content consumption, what would it be, something like the nova 7s look great, but apparently aren't good for musics etc due to some reviewers, is something like the stealth 700 gen 2 max or the v2 pro 2023 a better option if all are at a similar price? I'm on an original cloud alpha which I don't mind, if it is a bit dull.
I have a pair of these coming, but it looks to me like the it won't be bad for music either if you like big bass. I noticed you have a squig for the Sineaptic SE-1 but no review. Will you be posting one?
I’m working on the Sineaptic one. I proposed some changes to the headphone and the company actually flashed the firmware to change the sound. Waiting for the new unit prior to filming.
@@GadgetryTech Nice. I'm one of those people who need an ambient mode running at all times, or need to use open backs, so I'm excited to try these. The Maxwells were almost perfect for me, but the sidetone for that set is really sharp with things like clicks and keystrokes, and hurts my ears.
@@GadgetryTech It's promising to see how well they seem to be responding to reviewer input. Doing something like that with ribbon drivers is impressive in and of itself. I'm not sure if you're aware, but Abyss even has a video where they talk about trying and failing to use ribbon drivers for their own headphones. Ordered mine a little over a week ago and still waiting for them to ship. Looking forward to your review.
@@NotTheOnlyMattAround Can we get a feedback of your experience with MMX 200? planning on getting one myself not sure between that or maxwell for gaming mainly ( solo and multiplayer games a bit of everything )
Heal and feel better soon, Sir. Thank you very much for this review and introduction to this headset. A very crowded space of good headsets. It it the 'best' COD headset? Better than VZR?
Thanks! I think AceZone and VZR are the king of the crop followed by TB stealth pro and SS Nova Pro Wireless. This is actually really close to that level though. I still like these a lot and am traveling with them this week to have more time with them.
Straight up a bummer it's not usable on xbox, wireless that is.. I want a wireless one for so long.. Man.. 🙄 But microphone is great! Watch this for sleeping in a bit! Great job as usual Joe! 🔥 And congrats on 40K subs! 🎉
since you reviewed so many headsets can u tell if any other headset shares the same mechanism on how you attach the ear pads? I want to buy the beyerdynamics but the ear pads are no go for me and since they don´t offer replacement pads I`m not really sure
Yes these are better I play on PS5 and I had my mmx 200 wireless headphones for about a week now and there awesome I have the JBL 910 p and the audeze Maxwell and they been sitting on my desk for two weeks now the mmx 200 blow them out of the water for sound and there so so comfortable Best headphones I've had to date and I've had them all try them you will thank me later stay safe and happy gaming to all
have the astro a40s and use your settings for warzone on astro control center and use your sonar settings I can hear footsteps that I could not hear before, but I still think these are terrible. they have to be on top of you to really pick up sounds especially in multiplayer can you recommend a headset I have watched hundreds of headphone reviews and the 2 I want are the vzr model ones or the turtle beach stealth pros. I've watched and like all the videos I seen on your channel if the vzr ones which dac should I buy the creative g6 or the Schiit Hel 2 and which one for sound sonar or Dolby Atmos any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated as the astros years ago became awful like they hit a switch and made good headphones awful I have a pc that I main with a 4090. and a Xbox series x and a ps5 the Xbox I use for streaming Disney plus. Netflix Hulu for Dolby vision and single player games that aren't on pc game pass the ps5 I use for Singel player games and pc multiplayer games cod apex fortnight battlefield almost anything because pc is better for the games I love. ?
Im looking for wireless headset for conference calls. Basically need the headset to be compatible with linux (since this doesnt need app i guess it would work well), has to be comfortable and have good mic. Would you say this is a good pick or would you recommend something else?
What would you recommend me for $200 headset. Im leaning towards Blackshark v2 pro 2023 or those beyerdynamics. Which of these 2 have better sound, mic and overall performance?
Hey, here’s your answer (better late than never) basically the wireless dongles you get on every other headsets used 2.4GHz connection like WiFi basically (if not actual WiFi) which have it advantages and disadvantages, basically it doesn’t evolve that much anymore or much slower than Bluetooth, that said not every Bluetooth headphones are better, their for now all worst for gaming (very big/higher latency on all codecs),the only reason this one is good is that it uses a very new codec called LC3 if I’m not mistaking, currently all Bluetooth headphones used at least SBC (very old codec and one of the worst) and AAC (apple codec available on all devices nowadays) some other codec are available too but they all have even bigger latency cause trying to reach hi res audio (except aptx LL but not the current question) AAC and SBC are getting old the a new codec just come out codec LC3, it’s advantages are very good sound quality, stability, security… and low latency while being much less power consuming than the current SBC and AAC while having much better bandwidth but this codec being very new at my knowledge it’s only used on the Bose QC Ultra (I think) and the MMX200, I don’t now any devices like phones or computers supporting LC3 codecs yet, that’s why the MMX 200 have a dongle, it basically give LC3 codec compatibility to the device you plug it to So using Bluetooth have the advantage of consuming very little battery compared to the wireless 2.4GHz and you will get better audio quality on both sound and mic cause the LC3 codec already have good capabilities and better bandwidth (which is not really the case of the 2.4GHz) plus this codec will evolve with time and so will the headset. Hope it answers your question and sorry for the big text, never been a short text marker 🥲
@@lernoult Is the asus rog delta 2 better than the mmx 200 for fps and just overall sound quality? Somone had them for 6 months and then broke and he didnt toss it or anything. Some say it isnt comfrotable and the volume is low. Plus no eq and app. Which one is better?
Unfortunately I need to stick with wireless headset that comes with a base station, because I need to use it along a goxlr ,but a side from the nova pros (that sounds orrible and have returned them), there isn’t any real audiophile choice.
so its bad for music? well that makes it bad for me... how would it work with a equalizer like dolby atmos or nahimic? I mean music sounds great on the blackshark v2 pro 2023 edition... how does it compare to that? i really would love an answer to this :D
This is another instance where I wish manufacturers would make Xbox compatible versions of their headsets or that Microsoft didn’t have their own protocol so practically every wireless headset would work on it like Sony did. Though Beyerdynamic isn’t that big into gaming so I guess it’s not expected. Now both Corsair and Logitech should be able to.
Just got my pair in.. headset is great but with Augmented Mode there is an audible "hiss" consistently. Wondering if that is normal.. did you anyone experience the same?
Hey bro what you think the best competitive gaming headset between blackshark v2 pro g pro x2 and hyper x cloud 3 wireless I don’t like really sharp highs I like a sound where it natural and I can pin point stuff well but not have it be fatiguing
Trying a set of these now. Generally impressed. Mic is fantastic and they sound good - I found the imaging good in BF2042. Two things are negatives for me - on PC I take down the 80-200hz range by about 1-1.5db. I wish I could have that setting on PS5 also. Secondly while the augmented mode is great for hearing what's around you the headset still desperately needs sidetone imho. Augmented mode really doesn't help at all with hearing your own voice when in party chat for example on PS5.
Great review! A bit of disappointment that it doesn't have simultaneous BT. I don't love the trend of that getting left out by the more audiophile companies. Turtle Beach and SteelSeries still got us covered on features. Is there sidetone?
It's bummer that Beyerdynamics made all of their headsets with round earcups which are almost everytime way too small for my ears. I'm still looking for good wireless headset with earcups big aimilar to HyperX earcups which are perfect for me.
I hear you. It seems that these are a bit larger than some other round designs but some people prefer one over the other. Some don’t like oval and prefer round due to lower jaw pressure.
The beam-forming mics surprisingly sounded better (less compressed/nasally) than the boom mic! How does this boom mic (connected to computer/ gaming console) sound compared to Corsair HS80 Wireless' (which seems to be the current gold standard) boom mic?
I still think the cloud 3 sounds better and they are 140 on amazon, hell by Black Friday they probably will be 99$ i personally don't think these are worth the price tag, add 50$ and you are at maxwell and stealth pro's that have all the bells and whistles. I like them, i just dont think they are worth it in price.
As a solo player in every game that I play I believe I am in a small minority of gamers. I dont need a mic. I dont need BT. Comfort and sound quality and wireless capability is my wheel house. Oh yeah, and have the ability to pad swap. Problem I have is that I feel like I have a headset I am gonna get and then I think maybe I should wait to see what comes out next month. And then the next month and the next.....love your vids man.
@@HandledToaster2maybe the Sound is the Best but its Not the Best at All. The Mic Sounds Better at the Black shark v2 pro, the comfort is much Better at the v2 pro, arctics steel Series and more ....... IT depends on what youre doing with it and how good your ears are. Had a friend who told me oh See the maxwell going up to 50.000 Hz, Yeah but fun Fact without fun you only hear min. 20 Hz max. 20.000(as a New born) and He even couldnt hear a diffrence between two separate mic Samples i gave him..... And i believe there're much similar to him. I said to him if He buys the maxwell it would be Nice to have but if youre Not an audiiophile you can choose a cheaper headphone you wouldnt reconize any diffrence espacially people who just want to play fps games... If you want to Listen to classic Music make edits maybe the maxwell are good for you (there are way Better options as the maxwell for that but more expensive) Anyway just for gaming you dont need the maxwell espacially for fps gaming. Its like having a bugatti to drive your children to the Kindergarten.
@@patrickmareta8791 to me, the sound is the most important factor, everything else I'm fine compromising. I find the headset very comfortable, the microphone is good enough that people understand what I say, it's not like I'll be using it for podcasts. And since the person I'm responding to said they play every game solo, microphone doesn't matter anyway for him.
@@HandledToaster2 Yeah thats true I just wanted to notice that Not all people would heart the difference between the maxwell and a cheaper headphone cause they dont have trained ears. So they could choose a cheaper headphone with more Features like vibrating headphones for example wich May causes more fun while playing and you can save money.
@@patrickmareta8791 you're right about that, if someone doesn't care too much about top audio quality, then they should try the Nova 7 which is a lot cheaper. I hated them and traded for the Maxwell's, but a lot of people really enjoy it, and it's great value.
the curve comparisons are always so damn helpful, great stuff as always, joe, thanks man!
That little dip at 250Hz is called mud cut in studio jargon. 125Hz is also a common slider in popular graphic EQs. If you want deeper bass, you just drag that slider down.
Oh thanks for sharing!
I’m looking for my next gaming headset and TH-cam search lead me here, on your channel.
First of all, you did a very good job. Finally I found a review that covers all important topics, that has a proper depth from information perspective and all of that is presented in a clear and concise way by someone who actually knows what they are talking about. And for that - hats down!
Secondly, after viewing a dozen other reviews, that are plain shit because they provide completely opposite information from one another, your review actually convinced me to buy these headphones, because finally I have all the answers that I need to make a proper decision.
So, good job really. And you gained a sub, hope that your channel grows even more.
How do you like them, I am considering buying them aswell.
Thanks man. I'm about to buy this one tonight. The price is currently $199.99 on their website. Other sites still have it at $250 which is quite weird. But you were very informative and helped me to make my decision. Your sub and like has been earned:)
Not sure how this reflects on me but 'less is more' does apply to me and my usecase here. I appreciate you calling that out and speaking to it.
Hello Mr. Joe thank you so much for a high quality review. I been looking for a closed backs to try actually. This might be the one.
Thanks so much! Yeah I’ve been enjoying them a lot.
So glad you looked at these. Have had my eye on them (if they ever make it to the UK!)
The mic quality and audio quality is my primary factor in shopping for headsets currently. And this review backed up that after shortlisting and then landing on these I found the right wireless headset for what I want. Now unfortunately it seems virtually all listings of these disappeared the day after landing on them. I am debating whether to jump on buying them from a store that still has them in stock or wait to see if Beyerdynamic releases something to take their place (though I can't say that I am feeling super hopeful on that)
I was actually going to go for the Maxwell Audeze, it was difficult to get in The Netherlands and right now, I'm seriously considering the Beyerdynamic. A big sell for me personally is how good the sound quality is when not using the detachable mic. Now to see if stock for this is better than for the Maxwell.
I got this in the US a few days ago and I'm lovin in. My main reason for not going over with Maxwell was it's weight. This one is relatively lighter and I can go on for hours without having to take it off. Also it's a bit cheaper. No doubt Maxwell beats it in sound quality, but that's not to say this one isn't great. I rather compromise a teeny bit on sound for comfort since this is primarily for gaming on PC.
Thank you for your reply, I'll be rewatching the review when I have more time. I don't recall what the battery life is, if this has been mentioned. How long can you go on one charge and how long does it take to recharge?
@@Soei23 it says you should get around ~30hrs, but tbh I'm been getting more than that, very possibly because I dont game more than 2-3hr a day and rest of the time it either just some videos here and there or music, so I wanna say that's another 2-3 hrs. I'll basically I'm not pushing it more than 5hrs of active usage per day. So probably why I'm getting more than estimated. I'm not really very concered about it as long as I don't have to keep charging everyday I'm good. And frankly this is mainly for my PC, so it's just sitting near there , if I need to charge and I can continue using it while it charges. The USB wire is solely for charging, you cannot use it for sound, it's connected wireless while it charges The only way it works wired if you get that 3.5mm to usb type c cable like the reviewer stated.
@@Soei23 I had the Maxwells for about 4 months, the sound quality is amazing - but it is not without it's flaws. I ended up having to get a refund for them a few days ago as the right ear cup just decided to die on me, this was in spite of me handling them like a newborn the whole time I owned them.
There was also issues with the side tone always hissing and making this white noise. I may be in the minority, so I don't want to dissuade you, but there were definitely a lot of other people experiencing this issue. While I might be a loud minority, it's definitely worth taking into consideration if you are in a country where the Customer service of the distributor isn't very good.
It's sad because I really loved the Maxwell's for the sound and I never had an issue with the weight personally.
@@APAWd thnx! That is helpful. I’m in the Netherlands so that may be an issue. 😔
Hey Joe, do you happen to know if there will be aftermarket earpads for these? Loving the headset so far, but velour earpads on these would make em fantastic for comfort. Great review!
I'm exactly in the place you talked about where for me all of these features are non significant and i just want a solid option with a "good" sound for music and games, for a wireless option, but the audeze maxwel are 400$ where i live so i think with these infos i'll go for the mmx 200, thanks a lot for the review
So update for everyone looking for it rigth now, the cable finally just came out, in its description on the official website, it says that if you use the Hybrid mode (analog and Bluetooth) the mic will go through the analog connection only, apparently you can’t change that if I’m not mistaking, could change in the future with some updates but this is how it works for now, in hybrid mode, analog and Bluetooth can both send sound to the headset at the same time but the mic will only go through the analog connection
Thanks for the video. One question: would it make sense to go from Tygr 300R to MMX 200 wireless?
Excellent review. Coming from the Astro A50 gen 4 which I used for almost 5 years I tried the Audeze Maxwells first and while they were great in a lot of ways (overall sound quality was probably the best I've heard) the imaging and sidetone were terrible and I ended up having to return them since I play a lot of FPS and team games and I couldnt live with them. I just ordered these yesterday as they appear to be a great option for me given my use case.
You're the only one that covers "gaming" segment and actually knows what he's saying. On other channel the reviewer said Logitech have better tuned sound and I closed the video xD Of course, it's always subjective but that's very measurable is pretty clear...
As for longevity sadly I had some bad experience with Audeze gaming department (high pitch on-board amp, cushions falling apart FAST etc.) and in that department think that people would be happier with beyer, especially in Europe where it's easy to get different pads when available etc.
I've owned the MMX150 for over a year and they're my favorite so far except for 1 major flaw, the cable. It disconnects audio constantly due to the choice of using a usb-c and it slipping out slightly. It's a common problem with the 150s. Everything else I love, mic is amazing, imaging is great, list goes on. By far one of the best points is the audio passthrough allowing outside sounds in, its like you aren't wearing a headset at all. I'll be getting the 200s for sure.
Do yourself a favor and just get the mmx300
@@Twistid5one3did u even read what he actualy dont want again?(cable)
@gesniped doesn't matter the mmx100,150,200 are all junk compared to the mmx300. Might as well just go get the hyperx cloud 3
@@Twistid5one3 Is it wireless though? I don't buy wired headsets no matter how good they are
@@Black-nf3tx I mean your controller is wireless and you can plug it into your controller.
You really suprised me with the depth sound quality section! I want to use this headset as a wireless all purpose headset and think this one seems the most potent of them all; 50% gaming, 25% Music/video, 25% music production and music devices (elektron rytm MK2) with studio master/mixing purposes.
How would you think this device would blend into the music production kind category?
For me it doesn't have to be amazing, but if it would work good to decent then I would be happy enough with it, just a step below professional.
Who knows what a potential MMX 300 Wireless will bring
My dream wireless headphone would be like the Maxwell without the mic. Ace the sound, comfort and have the weight below 400g and it would be all I need for gaming. Perhaps Sony could do it with the recent acquisition of Audeze. Nice review!
For me it'd be a Tygr 300R wireless version without the mic.
Another awesome review as always. How would you describe separation and detail on this headset? Do they use DT 770 drivers or a different one?
Would be interesting to compare them to wired mmx300 gen 2.
Hi Joe! How does the clamp force/comfort compare to the Corsair Virtuso Pro? Also, how do you think this would do for big heads?
They look nice, but only 35 hours of battery life compared to my HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless is a big downside. How do you think they compare to the Cloud 3 Wireless in terms of Comfort and Audio Quality? Mostly for FPS games (Counter Strike)
not compare this 2... if its sounds like mine MMX150 its two differend sonds. Hyper high+bass no middle at all, this middle+high+accurate not fat bass. I like Hyper cloud 3 but its sounds pretty flat, i will sell it and return to my barracuda pro
Maybe an update: I was able to find and purchase the aux cable and it works perfectly. It also works through the USB cable with my macbook though. So It can be used as a bluetooth, 2.4 GHz wireless, USB or analog headset. Pretty versatile! I do miss a function to play next/previous song from the headset. And I would add that the button action is too loud for me, I prefer the buttons in a headset being as quiet as possible.
great review, yours is one of the few headphone yt channels i always enjoy absorbing. glad i didn't buy these, owning the maxwells, i see no alternative at this time. if only the maxwells were half the weight. as you mentioned, they own every genre of audio gaming except for fps, however, they don't suck at fps, only not as fantastic as others out there. stunning for music and movies as well.
My Maxwell’s right ear-cup died yesterday, I’ve been looking for alternatives and It looks like the Maxwell is still the king guess I’ll just get a replacement.
just picked up a pair of these to replace my old razer headphones for my laptop and i've had nothing but problems with the bluetooth mode. discord audio not playing while game audio is, game audio not playing while discord audio is,, switching between the two outputs that have completely different sound qualities (and subsequently causing the previous two issues when switching between them), discord audio playing but not picking up any input from the microphone on the headset, most issues are fixed with a complete unpair/repair with my laptop but then it starts all over again so i think there's a few kinks to work out with that mode and maybe they've released updates that do fix it.
so far the wireless dongle mode seems to be working as intended but i've only been on it for literally 15 minutes so its too soon to really make a definitive opinion. i was a little worried because the box does seem to be missing a lot of "accessories" like the analogue cable as well as a usb c to usb a adapter, with my laptop only having one usb c port that i didnt know existed/didnt care to find out about until now and it sucks that it seems like i have to use the dongle for it to work properly, having one less thing to plug into my laptop or phone would be fantastic since its one less thing to break, one less thing to lose.
for output alone, its great. i own a pair of dt 990s for my desktop and they're the best headphones i've ever owned and i can tell that the output quality on these comes right after, but with all the issues described above i think they're best for sole output with an external mic as your input
Anyone tried this and the DT 700 Pro X? Which one is better for gaming/music?
Great review again by the best reviewer. Thanks.
What would be an option for "external trickery" to get game-to-chat-mix on playstation with these?
Another fantastic video,I hope the mmx 200 comes to the UK soon with a Xbox version 🙏
Hey Joe from GadgetryTech, dont wont to bother you about this too much. But, have you listened to the Arya Organic?
May there be a review coming… 😊😊
Thanks for review. If we talk about sound quality between artic 7 nova pro and this one?
So I don't get what the big issue is if you don't have game to chat or eq - you can use steelseries sonar for every head set and tweak to your hearts desire?
Did something go wrong or did the Acezone Rise break? You said 1-2weeks like a month ago :(
I’m so sorry! The A-Rise review drops next week I promise! Timing has been terrible but I’m definitely prioritizing the A-Rise.
I assume you already plan too, but can you please make a "Best of the year" in preparation for Black Friday/Cyber Monday. And maybe even just a community Post for Prime day in 3days, if you don't have time for a video etc. Do you have affliate links you can add too?
@@mz1929 I got you :)
Great review man, breath of fresh air in the sea of amateur reviewers out there, keep it up
Hey Joe would you go for the blackshark v2 pro 2023 or the mmx 200?
Somthing that could be said about using simultanius bluetooth and dongel. I am using Steelseries and its really frustrating that the microphone turns over to the phone before i have answered the call, that means i cant tell the people on Discord that im getting a call.
HI Joe, love the reviews, i want to ask how the Harmonicdyne Athena stack to something like the PC38X or the Open H6 Pro?
One day we will have a headset with the sound quality of maxwell, mic of the hs80 and comfort of I don’t know wich is the most comfy headset out there. Hope Astro a50 is listening and take the cake!
Mabye comfort of the A50s? Thats all I can think of since people praise it to death.
@@vagamer522 nah they’re comfortable but they leave a noticeable dent on top of my bald head.
A50 comfort is so good
Astro has had so long to sit back and watch all of these headsets. They have no excuse not to come out with a banger.
Um guys, Astro isn't Astro anymore so don't hold your breath. They are comfy though.
Just bought the HyperX Cloud 3 Wireless after seeing your review.
I'm really having second thoughts if I should return them and by these instead for FPS..
what is best from these options and why?: mmx 200, audeze maxwell, pulse elite?
I wonder if I could use my mmx 300 dekoni pads on this headset gadgetry do you have any that of the pads to see thanks great video
Is there any news on ear pads for these yet? I bought a this headset last week. It's great but not comfortable after about 30 mins. I have no idea if the mmx 300 fits them I can't find anything and I'm constantly checking wicked cushions. Please help😢
Awesome review even with a cold! I’ve got a side question, I have a chance to buy an ace zone a-spire for $230. Would that be significant upgrade coming from a nova pro for FPS mainly cod? I’m on Xbox Thanks Joe and get to feeling better!
Another great review, thanks Joe
If you compare this to the Nova 7 with your EQ tune, which one is better for COD?
Also, does the MMX 200 get really loud like the Nova 7?
Thanks Famezy! Nova 7 is slightly louder if you disable the volume limiter. Slight edge to Nova with game specific EQ but overall this is incredibly close. I think most people will still be just as competitive.
@@GadgetryTech That's great, thanks for the quick reply. Keep up the amazing work
I found your channel recently and I've been enjoying your reviews a lot! This one came at a perfect time because I'm looking for a new headset/headphones. Do you have experience with the MMX 100? How does it compare to the 200 in sound quality and comfort?
Did you hear about the new Bose QC ULTRA headphones ?
Would you talk about it and give us some information about its specs please ? I've been waiting for it for long time now and still unavailable .
How do these compare to the sound of the Nova 7? I like the features of the Nova 7 more, but if the sound and comfort are way better on these, then I could justify the lack of those other features.
In gaming headset market, Im wondering its difficult to find one to out-performance the mic quality of Audeze Maxwel
I really enjoy your reviews. Very well researched and thought out.
Great review, i love the nuances you include, I have a question for you, if you had to reccomend a wireless headset below $200 for gaming, but also gaming and content consumption, what would it be, something like the nova 7s look great, but apparently aren't good for musics etc due to some reviewers, is something like the stealth 700 gen 2 max or the v2 pro 2023 a better option if all are at a similar price? I'm on an original cloud alpha which I don't mind, if it is a bit dull.
Inzone h7 for 129.99. Jack of all trades
is it just me who looks for chatmix function before everything else? how come $300+ headsets don't have this feature?
I have a pair of these coming, but it looks to me like the it won't be bad for music either if you like big bass. I noticed you have a squig for the Sineaptic SE-1 but no review. Will you be posting one?
I’m working on the Sineaptic one. I proposed some changes to the headphone and the company actually flashed the firmware to change the sound. Waiting for the new unit prior to filming.
Btw yeah I still enjoy the mmx 200 for content!
@@GadgetryTech Nice. I'm one of those people who need an ambient mode running at all times, or need to use open backs, so I'm excited to try these. The Maxwells were almost perfect for me, but the sidetone for that set is really sharp with things like clicks and keystrokes, and hurts my ears.
@@GadgetryTech It's promising to see how well they seem to be responding to reviewer input. Doing something like that with ribbon drivers is impressive in and of itself. I'm not sure if you're aware, but Abyss even has a video where they talk about trying and failing to use ribbon drivers for their own headphones. Ordered mine a little over a week ago and still waiting for them to ship. Looking forward to your review.
@@NotTheOnlyMattAround Can we get a feedback of your experience with MMX 200? planning on getting one myself not sure between that or maxwell for gaming mainly ( solo and multiplayer games a bit of everything )
What would you rank as your top 5 headsets for FPS right now regardless of price?
My question is Does the mic have an echo ? Been having a lot of problems on PS5. Adjustments to the volume of the mic don't really work.
Heal and feel better soon, Sir. Thank you very much for this review and introduction to this headset. A very crowded space of good headsets. It it the 'best' COD headset? Better than VZR?
Thanks! I think AceZone and VZR are the king of the crop followed by TB stealth pro and SS Nova Pro Wireless. This is actually really close to that level though. I still like these a lot and am traveling with them this week to have more time with them.
@GadgetryTech Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to reply, Sir. Much appreciated. Feel better soon and take care.
have you tried the Beyerdynamic MMX 300 gen 2?
Straight up a bummer it's not usable on xbox, wireless that is.. I want a wireless one for so long.. Man.. 🙄 But microphone is great! Watch this for sleeping in a bit! Great job as usual Joe! 🔥 And congrats on 40K subs! 🎉
Xbox only accepts USB or Wireless devices especially made for Xbox unfortunately
@@philschwenker1691 I know, their own protocol, maybe this changes at some point, or we simply get xbox versions as well =)
since you reviewed so many headsets can u tell if any other headset shares the same mechanism on how you attach the ear pads? I want to buy the beyerdynamics but the ear pads are no go for me and since they don´t offer replacement pads I`m not really sure
does the augmented mode work like sidetone? how well can you hear your own voice?
Thank you for every detailed review!!
Do I need to buy this set of MMX200 if I already own audeze maxwell? I am not an FPS fanatic...
Nah the Maxwell will most likely be better dude I also have the Maxwell aside from the weight I don’t think we get anything better yet
Yes these are better I play on PS5 and I had my mmx 200 wireless headphones for about a week now and there awesome I have the JBL 910 p and the audeze Maxwell and they been sitting on my desk for two weeks now the mmx 200 blow them out of the water for sound and there so so comfortable Best headphones I've had to date and I've had them all try them you will thank me later stay safe and happy gaming to all
@@jamesstevens968 do you also use them on pc
have the astro a40s and use your settings for warzone on astro control center and use your sonar settings I can hear footsteps that I could not hear before, but I still think these are terrible. they have to be on top of you to really pick up sounds especially in multiplayer can you recommend a headset I have watched hundreds of headphone reviews and the 2 I want are the vzr model ones or the turtle beach stealth pros. I've watched and like all the videos I seen on your channel if the vzr ones which dac should I buy the creative g6 or the Schiit Hel 2 and which one for sound sonar or Dolby Atmos any advice you could give me would be greatly appreciated as the astros years ago became awful like they hit a switch and made good headphones awful I have a pc that I main with a 4090. and a Xbox series x and a ps5 the Xbox I use for streaming Disney plus. Netflix Hulu for Dolby vision and single player games that aren't on pc game pass the ps5 I use for Singel player games and pc multiplayer games cod apex fortnight battlefield almost anything because pc is better for the games I love. ?
Im looking for wireless headset for conference calls. Basically need the headset to be compatible with linux (since this doesnt need app i guess it would work well), has to be comfortable and have good mic. Would you say this is a good pick or would you recommend something else?
What would you recommend me for $200 headset. Im leaning towards Blackshark v2 pro 2023 or those beyerdynamics. Which of these 2 have better sound, mic and overall performance?
Actually the MMX200 can work fine with the USB C cable in digital wired mode.
Awesome review . Ah question though . What's the difference between wireless and Bluetooth . Isn't it the same
Hey, here’s your answer (better late than never) basically the wireless dongles you get on every other headsets used 2.4GHz connection like WiFi basically (if not actual WiFi) which have it advantages and disadvantages, basically it doesn’t evolve that much anymore or much slower than Bluetooth, that said not every Bluetooth headphones are better, their for now all worst for gaming (very big/higher latency on all codecs),the only reason this one is good is that it uses a very new codec called LC3 if I’m not mistaking, currently all Bluetooth headphones used at least SBC (very old codec and one of the worst) and AAC (apple codec available on all devices nowadays) some other codec are available too but they all have even bigger latency cause trying to reach hi res audio (except aptx LL but not the current question) AAC and SBC are getting old the a new codec just come out codec LC3, it’s advantages are very good sound quality, stability, security… and low latency while being much less power consuming than the current SBC and AAC while having much better bandwidth but this codec being very new at my knowledge it’s only used on the Bose QC Ultra (I think) and the MMX200, I don’t now any devices like phones or computers supporting LC3 codecs yet, that’s why the MMX 200 have a dongle, it basically give LC3 codec compatibility to the device you plug it to
So using Bluetooth have the advantage of consuming very little battery compared to the wireless 2.4GHz and you will get better audio quality on both sound and mic cause the LC3 codec already have good capabilities and better bandwidth (which is not really the case of the 2.4GHz) plus this codec will evolve with time and so will the headset.
Hope it answers your question and sorry for the big text, never been a short text marker 🥲
@@lernoult Is the asus rog delta 2 better than the mmx 200 for fps and just overall sound quality? Somone had them for 6 months and then broke and he didnt toss it or anything. Some say it isnt comfrotable and the volume is low. Plus no eq and app. Which one is better?
Unfortunately I need to stick with wireless headset that comes with a base station, because I need to use it along a goxlr ,but a side from the nova pros (that sounds orrible and have returned them), there isn’t any real audiophile choice.
The Nova pro sounds bad straight out the box,but once EQed it sounds great
@@jasonemanuel9070 Do you recommend some eqs?
What are your thoughts compared to the H3PRO Hybrid?
so its bad for music? well that makes it bad for me... how would it work with a equalizer like dolby atmos or nahimic?
I mean music sounds great on the blackshark v2 pro 2023 edition... how does it compare to that? i really would love an answer to this :D
This is another instance where I wish manufacturers would make Xbox compatible versions of their headsets or that Microsoft didn’t have their own protocol so practically every wireless headset would work on it like Sony did. Though Beyerdynamic isn’t that big into gaming so I guess it’s not expected. Now both Corsair and Logitech should be able to.
I hate that as well, any usb headset works on the PlayStation but not on the Xbox
For ps5 and fps games especially (rainbow six) what is the best headset??
Just got my pair in.. headset is great but with Augmented Mode there is an audible "hiss" consistently. Wondering if that is normal.. did you anyone experience the same?
I will wait for v3 one that has breathable pads and one that can listen to music.
Hey bro what you think the best competitive gaming headset between blackshark v2 pro g pro x2 and hyper x cloud 3 wireless I don’t like really sharp highs I like a sound where it natural and I can pin point stuff well but not have it be fatiguing
Great review!
Is this made in germany? If yes, I understand the price range. If China, this should be 180-200max.
Just got this headset and can barely hear anything unless i put it at 90%+ volume. Is this normal for this headset, or should they be plenty loud?
looking at the curve it looks a bit like mg20, with better connection transmitter
Would the Steelseries Sonar app work with these headphones
Trying a set of these now. Generally impressed. Mic is fantastic and they sound good - I found the imaging good in BF2042.
Two things are negatives for me - on PC I take down the 80-200hz range by about 1-1.5db. I wish I could have that setting on PS5 also. Secondly while the augmented mode is great for hearing what's around you the headset still desperately needs sidetone imho. Augmented mode really doesn't help at all with hearing your own voice when in party chat for example on PS5.
These earpads are waay too hot. Wish there were cooling gel ear pads available for these
What are the best for ps5 and for call of duty?
How do these compare with the HS80?
this or h3pro hybrid?
To anyone who has a pair. How loud do they get? Have read a few comments online saying that the max volume is very low.
Have you found anything? Also is the mmx 200 better than the asus rog delta 2 for fps and overall sound quality?
@@waterkey2712 Didn't get them. Went with a pair of Astro A50 Gen 5 instead.
@@garethg8226Okay. Thanks for the reply though!
@@garethg8226 ok.
how do these compare to the Virtuoso Pro?
Great review! A bit of disappointment that it doesn't have simultaneous BT. I don't love the trend of that getting left out by the more audiophile companies. Turtle Beach and SteelSeries still got us covered on features.
Is there sidetone?
What up I see the mm 100 in the back are you going to review them
Good eye! Sometimes I test to see what people notice lol. Yes that review is dropping next week
It's bummer that Beyerdynamics made all of their headsets with round earcups which are almost everytime way too small for my ears. I'm still looking for good wireless headset with earcups big aimilar to HyperX earcups which are perfect for me.
I hear you. It seems that these are a bit larger than some other round designs but some people prefer one over the other. Some don’t like oval and prefer round due to lower jaw pressure.
At that price point not including an AUX cable is downright disgraceful...
My biggest frustration is how much they advertise the benefits of using the cable, but then not offering it. Really weird to me
The beam-forming mics surprisingly sounded better (less compressed/nasally) than the boom mic! How does this boom mic (connected to computer/ gaming console) sound compared to Corsair HS80 Wireless' (which seems to be the current gold standard) boom mic?
I still think the cloud 3 sounds better and they are 140 on amazon, hell by Black Friday they probably will be 99$ i personally don't think these are worth the price tag, add 50$ and you are at maxwell and stealth pro's that have all the bells and whistles. I like them, i just dont think they are worth it in price.
do these sound same as mmx 100?
Does this headset have side tone?
As a solo player in every game that I play I believe I am in a small minority of gamers. I dont need a mic. I dont need BT. Comfort and sound quality and wireless capability is my wheel house. Oh yeah, and have the ability to pad swap. Problem I have is that I feel like I have a headset I am gonna get and then I think maybe I should wait to see what comes out next month. And then the next month and the next.....love your vids man.
Just get the Maxwell they're literally the best wireless headset that exists. Matter of fact it's the best wireless HEADPHONES period.
@@HandledToaster2maybe the Sound is the Best but its Not the Best at All. The Mic Sounds Better at the Black shark v2 pro, the comfort is much Better at the v2 pro, arctics steel Series and more .......
IT depends on what youre doing with it and how good your ears are.
Had a friend who told me oh See the maxwell going up to 50.000 Hz, Yeah but fun Fact without fun you only hear min. 20 Hz max. 20.000(as a New born) and He even couldnt hear a diffrence between two separate mic Samples i gave him..... And i believe there're much similar to him.
I said to him if He buys the maxwell it would be Nice to have but if youre Not an audiiophile you can choose a cheaper headphone you wouldnt reconize any diffrence espacially people who just want to play fps games...
If you want to Listen to classic Music make edits maybe the maxwell are good for you (there are way Better options as the maxwell for that but more expensive) Anyway just for gaming you dont need the maxwell espacially for fps gaming.
Its like having a bugatti to drive your children to the Kindergarten.
@@patrickmareta8791 to me, the sound is the most important factor, everything else I'm fine compromising. I find the headset very comfortable, the microphone is good enough that people understand what I say, it's not like I'll be using it for podcasts.
And since the person I'm responding to said they play every game solo, microphone doesn't matter anyway for him.
@@HandledToaster2 Yeah thats true
I just wanted to notice that Not all people would heart the difference between the maxwell and a cheaper headphone cause they dont have trained ears. So they could choose a cheaper headphone with more Features like vibrating headphones for example wich May causes more fun while playing and you can save money.
@@patrickmareta8791 you're right about that, if someone doesn't care too much about top audio quality, then they should try the Nova 7 which is a lot cheaper. I hated them and traded for the Maxwell's, but a lot of people really enjoy it, and it's great value.
Does this work well with the ps5
Is it bloetooth or 2.4 - still mess with that)))
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solid headset, but with no internal eq that bass is a pass for me.
At least on PC you can use Equalizer APO or SteelSeries Sonar, but nothing for console.