Fusion Rifle PvP Tier List Rankings (Destiny 2)
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- Today we're ranking every non-sunset Fusion Rifle into a Tier List for Destiny 2 PvP. This video explains the Crucible ranks of each Fusion and gives you an idea of what Fusions are the absolute best so you can decide which ones are worth using in your PvP loadout.
There are some high-ranking fusions here that you probably expected to see like the Bastion, Glacioclasm, and even the Plug One. However, there might be some rankings in here that surprise you. I actually learned quite a bit from making this video and going in depth on the comparisons between various fusion rifles and their perks.
This tier list evaluates each weapon’s ability to excel in a variety of PvP modes including Trials of Osiris, Competitive, and 6v6 Control. This means we're evaluating perks, stats, and the overall "feel" of each weapon to determine its ranking. At the end of the day, tier lists are just opinions that are backed up by facts, so I’d love to hear your thoughts on the rankings in the comments below.
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Sections:
0:00 Tier List Specifications
0:39 Bastion
2:48 Cartesian Coordinate
4:16 Coriolis Force
5:20 Dream Breaker
6:55 Exile's Curse
9:03 Glacioclasm
10:19 Hollow Words
11:06 Jötunn
12:36 Merciless
15:01 Null Composure
16:13 One Thousand Voices
16:42 Plug One.1
18:47 Techeun Force
20:26 Telesto
22:50 Timeline's Vertex
25:20 Trinary System
26:24 Vex Mythoclast
27:59 Zealot's Reward
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At the end of the day, all tier lists are opinions backed up by facts and experiences, so please be civil in the comments section.
NOTES: I know the numbers on the Merciless catalyst don’t add up; D2Gunsmith, DIM, and Lightgg all disagree on the amount of range+stability that the catalyst grants. The point is, the range and stability are both nearly maxed out, making the weapon extraordinarily consistent.
Apparently there’s still a version of Main Ingredient that’s not sunset, oops! Due to its amazing base stats, ability to roll firmly planted, tap the trigger and under pressure, I’d probably put Main Ingredient in the S tier. It’s comparable to the Plug One.1 and perhaps even better with the right roll
Now scouts or smg. Take all the time you need. No pressure.
Sadly proliium is sunset but it was a monster bac in the day
Plug one.1 is insane when you get arrowhead break particle repeater killingwind and kicstart it really can put you into slay mode
For pve I have one that has under pressure and adrenaline junkie which is nasty for boss damage if you're pairing it with vortex nades on top tree nova and witherhoard the combo actually is my goto load out for atheon and templar bc of the ability to control ads w witherhoard and vortex nades with the burst damage from my plug one and archons thunder for oracles
I own several erentil with over 4800 kills in PvP and 3 prolium with over 2500 PvP kills as well so trust me when I say that plug one with kicccstart is litteraly the best of both worlds the charge decreases down to a rapid fire frame and the samage ramps up to almost that of erentil
The best scope on an omolon fusion is torchscope
There’s still a version of Main Ingredient that’s not sunset, oops! Due to its amazing base stats, ability to roll firmly planted, tap the trigger, rangefinder and under pressure, I’d probably put Main Ingredient in the S tier. It’s comparable to the Plug One.1 and perhaps even better with the right roll
Rangefinder as well in the final column increasing zoom and range
I have it a few of them actually
Can confirm - my Main Ingredient with Under Pressure and Tap the Trigger - Stability Masterwork - Projection Fuse / Red Dot Micro is a beast definitely S tier. I personally like the feel of it more than Plug One Adept. But Also I would have put Hollow Words into at least A tier due to Vorpal. In 6v6 I found that Vorpal is incredible for shutting down supers. Even if it takes 1.5 - 2 charged shots. Or 1 Vorpal fusion round with any other team fire. That is, IF your teammates help you challenge and not just run away...
@@idreamofglitches8733 so I have that roll and an under pressure rangefinder roll with the same set up. The FR roll feels better to me for a few reasons, the biggest being JUMPSHOTS
@@idreamofglitches8733 Lol... Imagine blueberries actually teamshooting instead of just running around and just not shooting
I asked patty for a fusion tier list and he told me you were making one. He didn’t lie
Nice
"Bungie buff Corialis Force"
Bungie: k
*Bungie makes all guardians wide
LMAO
🤣🤣🤣 FFS!!
*thicc
I love coriolis force
Telesto, Bastion, and Jotuun aren’t fusions… they’re WMDs
When I use telesto I like to place bolts on the ceiling to keep hunters from breaking their necks on the ceiling to come shotgun me. There are plenty of times where they either explode due to the time limit or someone shoots them but when a hunter does fall for it, it puts a smile on my face
The trapping weapons are so fun. The amount of sliding apes I've taken out thanks to a held sitting breachload Grenade I left in a corner that they didn't see lmao, or baiting them then witherhoarding where I was
I main telesto and I never thought of that. Big brain shit dude 🧠🧠
@@staticmind1872 another thing I do with telesto is if you see a titan about to do a ballistic slam you can shoot the bolts at your feet and the titan will die right as he hits you.
My man just causally put the best transition in a tier list video 1:51
I’m glad you liked it haha
With all the Fusion changes that happened in the beginning of the season, the Tier list does shift quite a lot. Rapid fires switch their spots with high impacts. I have an amazing roll of Zealot's Reward with under Pressure + Disruption Break allowing super easy Kinetic cleanups with DMT and other weapons
Finally, someone who gives merciless the love it deserves
Just gonna rewrite those, I absolutely loved it pre-fusion rework, but after the 1.0 second change I just don’t like it as much. Really disappointing that they added that because the merciless just feels a whole lot less consistent at this point
Merciless has a long charge time
About strange impact values: I noticed today that guns like Hawkmoon, Last Word(Thorn probably, too), have the same lesser impact than legendary 140s, but have the same damage profile(except for LW, I guess, since it is not 70/49, but 69/51).
Been waiting for one of these! keep it up!
instant sub for this video
Note: merciless also has a hidden perk, which is basically a beefed up version of Feeding Frenzy.
Yeah I tagged it as a Heavy Hitter, aggressive weapon on DIM.
Merciless has been my secret forever now it fucking slaps and it has ever since it went into special slot
Merciless has always been a monster. It's probably going to induce PTSD in the new Season 15 meta.
I don’t get why more people who use fusions don’t use merciless if they’re not already running an exotic. It’s already better than the high impact frames with amazing range and stability with catalyst to top it off.
Yea same lmao
@@weebtrash3376 its not anywhere near as good as my glacio even with the fact they fixed it. out performs glacio in pve definitely not pvp. erntil2.0 will always be supreme fusion. if anyone thinks otherwise then they dont have a good roll
Beginning of the video I was saying "Glacioclasm and Telesto better be in the S tier." You were close enough, but for me, Telesto is S tier. Thanks for the vid.
👍
Tried Merciless after you suggested it and it feels great as an alternate to duality as my messenger companion. Thanks a lot! Last time I used this thing it was S1 when it could headshot calus.
Haha awesome, I’m glad you like it!
My glacioclasm with under pressure and high impact is the gun I have the most kills on ever, I also have the best roll you can get on timelines vertex with firmly planted elemental capacitor
Oh man I’d love to try out your timelines’ sometime, that thing seems so good
I’ve got it with +6 zoom and stability master and liquid couls
@@ShadowDestiny I’m on PC if you want to try it out, it has Signal MS5 sight, lights coils, and a range masterwork
I’m dumb i have cross save on Xbox
Where al can you get that from, I’ve been trying to get one with that roll for a while now & don’t know where it drops
great video big ups for gameplay with all of them!
alternate title: which fusion is the best way to make ppl hate you
Alternate title: "Which fusion to use to kill constant meta wielding shotgun/hc mains easily and receive hate messages from them and let them complain on reddit about fusions and make them nerf them, so they can keep using their shotgun/hc meta."
@@KFCLinan Who tf goes on reddit to complain about fusion rifles lol? What virgins my god
"Get sum fukking skill scrub!"
-your average handcannon shotgun stompee hunter.
@@quill7889 discord and reddit mods....
@@kalicula7718 f*ck I forgot to mention stompees...
1:48 ok that transition was SICK!
I love when people notice the little things 🥰
Another banger of a video!
As a fusion rifle fanatic, this is the only Fusion Rifle tier list I actually FULLY agree with, and it's primarily because of Merciless' placement.
Too many people sleep on Merciless, but as someone who uses it religiously and has it sitting at their #1 in kills in PvP, it's ridiculously insane. IMO it's easily the best Fusion for PvP in the game. Super consistent with Kill Clip on top of it? It's so good.
Not to mention the hidden pre-nerf feeding frenzy that I forgot to put in the video! An absolute beast of a weapon. As someone who doesn’t consider himself a fusion rifle main, I’m glad a fusion rifle connoisseur agrees with me 😎
How does it feel in the crucible now? After the increase in charge rate and general stat changes for it's archetype
@@cayde-6813 Haven't used it quite yet, but I was just about to jump into crucible now, so I'll be using it and I'll come back with my thoughts!
@@cayde-6813 Okay after using it for a while, it still feels good, but it's honestly less consistent due to having 5 bolts per burst. However, once you proc Impetus it's even better than before since it will only require TWO bolts to kill now instead of 3. It actually currently only requires 3 bolts to kill normally, but with 5 bolts, missing a couple of them just past it's optimal range means you aren't killing, which wasn't the case before the changes.
@@ghostrick9824 Neat, i used merciless a lot before this change, but if I'm being honest i don't know why but that increase in charge time is really getting to me.
Great vid🔥💯💯
I really like Cartesian coordinate and techeun force and glacioclasm
Finnaly someone who talks about timelines vertex. Ive been using one with field prep and backup plan and its still pretty good. Favorite fusion by far
Superb vid Shadow! Very informative. One question I have is what mod should you run on a fusion rifle if counter balance is not needed? Does it make sense to use Backup mag on ones that have perks like high impact reserves and under pressure, so that youre more likely to proc them?
It’s really up to you! I normally use Icarus or backup or targeting
Hey SD, will you be doing an updated version of this once the Fusion Rifle rework goes live? Would love to see a video on the new changes in this format
I always asked myself, why I couldn't handle the Corialis Force. Now I know, thanks. Great series btw, helps a lot.
Since they too away my wizened I’ve using my main ingredient with projection fuse, under pressure, tap the trigger and range masterwork. I love it.
i would be surprised if i dont match an entire fireteam with Jotuun in trials :) nice work dude
What are some linear fusions you would recommend? Need that tier list now!
Up here with you.
Honestly didn’t know merciless was that good, I never see it in pvp, I probably will see it more now after this vid, and I’m gonna try it out
I know I feel like it’s SO underrated! Personally it’s one of my favorite fusions to use
I bought the ornament for it I think last week and will probably use it more often now.
@@ShadowDestiny Merciless also has a place in VoG.
Merciless was my best kept secret for comp, i remember always getting messages from guys asking why I’m even using it at the start of games lmao
@@WasBane Mine is Sweet Business.
My absolute god roll main ingredient laughs at these fusions
Same here, it's a travesty it got overlooked completely given how amazing the perk pool is
And you get rolled by good players
Trinary System with under pressure and high impact reserves is NASTY!
Facts!!
Wow, im early. Well shadow if you see this thanks for being such a good resource for players and in general a great role model for the destiny community, we appreciate it!
merciless aim assist sure is nice
I love fusion rifles, and the shotgun nerf made them fairly viable, great vid btw.
Telesto master race
Timeline's Vertex has been my goto since the Erentil sunset. I have particle repeater, Stability mw, firmly planted, and disruption break. I almost always run voidlock do Elemental capacitor would probably be nice too, but if the kill isn't secured the 50% bonus to kinetic upon breaking the shield is great.
Great video! I was not expecting such an in-depth analysis. My only critique is that you didn't mention Back Up Plan. Yes it was nerfed, but it's clutch when are getting charged by a shotgun ape :)
I suppose it can come in handy but imo having consistency perks is a much better route
The telesto vs Shotgun sliders = incredibly satisfying
im gonna def look out for that timelines vertex roll. sadly im sure ive deleted tons and tons of them back when thats all id get from banshee. i am curious how far you actaully map ppl with it tho. from the clips it definitely seems further than the other adaptives but i dont know how far into precision or high impact ranges you really get. cuz i am a believer in both elemental capaciter and firmly planted but i just dont know how far you really get with them
Great video, but how could you leave off Main Ingredient? With the right perks it is a very viable option and likely either A or S tier. Thanks for the video.
Oh my gosh! I have the Timeline’s Vertex God roll!
After watching this video I was like hm I think I have one so I check my vault and it’s the exact god roll shadow mentioned in the video.
I got Torch HS3 Scope / Projection Fuse / Firmly Planted / Elemental Capacitor with a Range MW and counter balance mod. It is literally perfect!
It can hit 20 meters and kill people with no problem. Crouching or standing! I did some testing with my fusion rifle expert and he very impressed with this fusion.
Wowwww very nice!
20 METRES!! 😳 those are close to pre nerf erentil numbers. I might have to pull mine out of the vault and slap people.
@@ShadowDestiny thank you so much Shadow! I’m a big fan, I think you are phenomenal pvp player and very skillful with snipers, I’ve seen a lot of your snipe clips and they are so impressive. I rewatch them sometimes and wish I could do what you could! I would love to get better at sniping, watching you inspires me if you didn’t make a video already on tips on sniping you should I would be clicking without even thinking! 💛
@@Kumari_44 yes! It’s really nice! What roll did you get on yours? I really loved and have been using my plug one a lot but ever since shadow put this out I’ve been using this roll and it’s amazing and fun and I cannot believe it’s only charge time of 660 the only thing is that I would have to run void subclass to get the stability bonus! I run warlock so yeah I can make it work but that’s the only downside everything else is amazing!
My man had to do Dream breaker like that, for me its soooo consistent and powerful
I've been using Exiles Curse on my titan so much. I have SlideShot and Kickstart. And I use it with Antaeus wards. So so fun to use.
Awesome
Obviously Heir Apparent is the best because it technically has a charge time before you can fire it.
I don't often get god rolls, but I have a Timelines' Vertex with Torch HS3, Particle Repeater, Firmly Planted, Elemental Capacitor, and a stability masterwork, and it's pretty nice
So about hollow words, it can get backup plan, which was only nerfed on the high impact fusions. And on my experience it’s pretty great
I have a Rampage Kill Clip Techeon Force haven’t used it yet but been waiting for the right sandbox
What is the best barrel option on a techeon force between smallbore, arrowhead brake, and chambered compensator?
Could you make one about hand cannons and then pulse rifles? Love your content thanks for the help
My buddy Pattycakes did those vids, go check them out
This is a great video. Might just have to start maiming fusions and see how it goes 😂
You really did the mic drop on that laggy guy after he got bastion’d
@@ShadowDestiny had to do it to em
Le auntie on the beat
I’m curious what your preferred barrel is, for example plug 1 adept curious wether you’d want liquid or accelerated for pvp
I have a timeless Vertex with Autoloading Disruption break and I love it, its great for PvE and PvP
I wouldn’t say that’s the best roll for PvP technically speaking, but if you’ve got a good scope I’m sure it’ll still perform nicely!
i got a exiles curse with hipfire grip, kickstart and a stability masterwork is unreal levels of stable
I would absolutely despise playing against you in pvp. Absolutely amazing gameplay.
That mic drop lmao! Timing was glorious.
What lol?
@@ShadowDestiny I think he’s talking about the emote at 1:50
@@I-Civil OHHH yeah how could I forget
Good stuff
The epicurean was my favourite fusion, but the hollow words has been my go to since. I’ve always preferred precisions over high impacts because of the faster charge. I still have yet to get a good plug one roll so I’m still using my best HW.
I also have used Timeline’s vertex for a while, though my current HW is better.
I found my Zealot's to behave quite well consistently for me honestly.
That, or I just like the look and sound
I’m gonna try out merciless, used to love erentil and I like plug one
For a masterwork do you recommend charge time or something other then that I seem to only keep ones with charge time
Is there a fusion rifle that drops from Last Wish? Is it any good?
I hve that vanguard fusion one with under pression and high impact reserves, it is a beast.
The merciless kill clip is just what the pre nerfed kill clip was
While you talked about jotunn
Befor the last update EVERY fusion (and pistol) were technically projectile weapons due to them mot being hitscan, even if it doesnt look like this
I'm glad you put timelines vertex in the s tier. Its such a good good gun.
Underrated Af!!
I love Bastion. It's such a satisfying gun. I remember 1 shotting spectral blades hunter in a custom 1v1 with my friend and he was just absolutely floored that Bastion could do that. It feels like it's spitting out molten whenever you fire it.
Haha yessir it’s powerful indeed!
Your crazy with that messenger
Video begins: This is a tier list
Me instinctually: oh word, is that what it is?
Watching you smoke that hunter with null composure after they tried to shatterdive you was beautiful
The main ingredient is amazing!
idk if this was mentioned but merciless also has pre nerf feeding frenzy
You left out one currently viable S Tier fusions- Main Ingredient. With firmly planted, high impact reserves the thing is a dominant MONSTER that rivals anything on this lost
Main ingredient and timelines vertex are my go to. Got almost god roll timelines. All range, firmly planted, elemental capacitor. It has an m5 scope instead of an m3. Still 99% godroll. 2 godroll main ingredients. One all charge time 660 with firmly planted and high impact reserves and the other with mag perks, high impacted reserves, and under pressure(8 mag size, perks are active 4 and below). Sadly proelium fr3 is sunset … mag perk, hir, Under pressure, range mw, and ms3 scope. Timelines is my go to though. Glad to see it made the S tier.
I don’t use fusions but it might help develop counters and help me adapt. Also the toaster part was a good bit.
I honestly think Dream Breaker has the potential to be an AMAZING fusion, you just need the right perks.
The thing can roll with arrowhead break, firmly planted AND kickstart, which make it stupid good when sliding. Slap on some anteus wards for the shield and missle titan for inertia override, and you'll be sliding all over the place with a "no u" shield, and a very stable and high damage fusion rifle.
Farming the gun is also very easy and fairly quick, so it's more likely to get that 4 or 5/5 roll that makes it amazing.
Ok so I overall agree with this, however timelines vertex has a great roll for a quick clean up style play. You want auto loading holster with backup plan. You just whip it out and instant damage. Then you switch back to your primary then backup plan resets and loads your weapon.
Yo, what? How u fit Vex Mythoclast in a tier list about "Fusion Rifles"?
Thanks
I have several Cartesian Coordinates and they are, in my opinion very very very good. Under pressure back up/under pressure/swash. Dirty combos. Need a better Plug. Next week.
With the changes made to fusion rifles would you update your list or is this definitive now?
Glaciocasm with killing wind and high impact reserves absolutely maps. Once you get the first kill, the gun auto maps with the benefits of killing wind.
With the recent reduction of bolts from 7 to 5, you need to be a bit more accurate but if you can get it down, this fusion kills.
Excellent list, though it's missing a crucial Ingredient
I have a timelines vertex that I really enjoy using…I am shotgun/sniper avid user so to use fusions and be surprised by them is a fun alternative…my roll
Signal MS5 Scope
Liquid Coils
Firmly Planted
Back up Plan (Despite nerf, still viable)
Handling Mw (would’ve preferred stability)
Forgot to mention also enjoy my Main Ingredient. Also a very good fusion.
Roll:
Red Dot 2
Liquid Coils
Firmly Planted
Rangefinder
Stability Mw.
I have the high impact/ under pressure roll on my zealots reward and I like it a lot.
nice! I think that's a decent roll like I said in the video, but imo the fusion just can't compete with some of the other options out there when they have even better perks and stats
@@ShadowDestiny nice 👍 maybe so. Right now I’m using it over my plug one because having a 500 rpm fusion (charge time master work) is pretty handy when you are more of a defensive player.
I can't wait for the rework of the Fusions and the Vex and other Exotic primary custom tuning buffs. Bungie are really trying to kick it up a notch higher and higher with every season.
Solid list. I'd rank Merciless, Timelines, and Trinary a rank down personally because of Charge time or frame issues, but it's p much exactly what I expected. I'd also advise people to give Backup plan a try on high stability fusions (particularly Plug), since when everyone wrote that perk off, they were trying it on max zoom/range Erentils post nerf and never looked back.
Backup plan reduces your dmg its not worth it.
@@aarongrilanc94 Like clockwork 😂 Backup is a great perk, and on the right fusion ends in ez one shots at a 459 Charge time, faster than the lowest possible charge time otherwise. S tier on Precision's like Plug.
@@Ritolino1622 no it reduces your damage per bolt so its not a great perk. Any perk that reduces your dmg for quicker charge time isint worth it imo. I understand your thought process but people have tested it and its not a great perk at all.
@@aarongrilanc94 I'm saying it's my favorite fusion perk for precision frames. The stability is so high, the lowered damage and more bolts to kill doesn't make a difference to me within 16m, which is the only range I'll need it. Lower damage doesn't make any difference if I still get the one shot every time.
I have a field prep snapshot Timelines vertex with a stability masterwork
Good video. I don't really play pvp but informative nonetheless. I need to do pvp for witherhoard catalyst still but can't bring myself to play a hundred+ games to try and get 100 guardian kills lol. But anyway, thanks for the vid
My favourite fusion before it got sunset was definitely Erentil FR4
Oh yeah I love erentil. I also have a god roll of that sunset beauty. I remember when people asked for a sniper in trials...I would instead put erentil on and no one would notice the difference...
The absolute best fusion I’ve ever used is my main Ingredient, comes with zoom increasing scopes, has good stats almost on par with plug one, and can roll firmly planted as well as tap the trigger. It’s the most consistent fusion I’ve ever used.
Main ingredient gang.
Mine has Hitmark/Red Dot Micro, projection fuse, under pressure, high impact reserves, and a handling MW.
This thing is so consistent.. Especially from the air.
I love my Cartesian Coordinate with Under Pressure and Snapshot
Nice!
Does anyone know what kinetic rifle was being used in the first clip?
Please do scoutrifles and sidearms
a few things about timelines vertex, because of its already insane perks that boost its stability and accuracy its one of the few fusions where i'd actually advise a range MW, not a stability one, secondly, liquid coils coils is arguably the best battery perk on it, not projection fuse or particle repeater, as that allows it to get a 5 bolt kill against higher resilience tiers, thirdly, well not as good as void (or stasis) elemental capacitor, if your running anything besides void heavily consider snapshot sights, as its helps how the gun feels more then elemental
When I clicked on this video I didn’t look at who it was and thought it was pattycakes until the plug
Great vid as always man, but I strongly disagree with Cartesian. The rest of the list is good though. For Cartesian with the moa2 or micro scope, particle repeater, underpressure and vorpal/HIR, with a range mw it’s insane. It requires this specific roll as part repeater almost acts as full choke while the extra 10 range from the mw pushes out dmg fall off by nearly 2 meters, while the 17 zoom stacks letting you get consistent kills at up to 18 meters and max map potential of 21 meters.
I totally agree. I got swashbuckler instead of high-impact reserves, but otherwise the same. He is not giving Cartesian Coordinate a fair shake with his feeding frenzy roll.
@@cattailsunrise7176 agreed forgot to add swash its really good as well
We wont talk about " sharty o' queef " at 13:30
Is main ingredient not available to acquire anymore? I’ve got one with under pressure rangefinder and it rolls with scopes too
I have one choice between Particle Repeater or Projection fuse in the first column, choice between under pressure and hipfire grip in the second column hitmark is and red dot moa and red dot micro scopes.