Great and helpful tips thanks, Just question, what is the real differance to weight to peg or sit on back of seat , , Both should be transfer to weight to rear tire, Technically any differance?
There is a deference in your ability to move on the machine. With your feet on the pegs and body and butt off the seat you can then move your hips back and forth with much more efficiency. Check this video out, specifically 5:20 th-cam.com/video/9We23F-KyGk/w-d-xo.html
@@rejzo-production Your center of mass might be lower if you sit versus standing, but the ability to *quickly* move your center of mass left, right, forwards and back is probably more important so you can balance your bike in changing situations. Not to mention sometimes you need to de-weight your bike or compress your front/rear suspension for some techniques, all of which require standing as the first step.
simple physiology of human body .... there are no proprioceptors * your body balance sensors * between your legs when sitting. it's in ankles; knees and internal ear.... ;) so closed loop of balance info can come to ankle on footpeg, then knee, them internal ear then brain and all loop back to load back peg and adjust body. try it just sitting just on bicycle seat or on a super narrrow seat at home, legs out of ground
I wouldn’t have thought it was even possible to ride through a rock pile like that and yet you went through it so smoothly. I subscribed to also learn this magic. Well done.
as usual, very helpful and useful tips. I will never be a Jarvis rider but learning and applying this skills has made my regular trail rides that much better
Recovering from injury ....gonna practice foot dabs in my garage ! Thanks for helping us remember that there's always more to learn about riding and something you can get better at.👊✊✊✊✊
Beautiful. Crystal-clear and educational as always. Sitting in technical situations for me is admitting defeat; I try to avoid it at any cost and I know I got something wrong when it happens.
This has got to be 1 of the best videos for progressing a skilled rider to the next leval of becoming 1 with there bike I have ever seen ... your an absolute legend RL 👊🏻🏁🏁
Love your channel and the breakdown of specific moves. I am looking for a used trials bike to practice on as I'm not ready to see my expensive (for me) enduro bike. Keep up the good work!
Dear Rich, thank you so much for your lessons and learning! For me, you're the best teacher of enduro theme)) Thanks to you, i've got many things realized early been beyond of my mind)) God of enduro bless you!))) *handshake*
EXCELLENT info. I watch many videos where I'm mumbling to myself "get your feet on the PEGS!!" At 62 and shorter than 5'7", I'm trying to remember this ALL the TIME!! EXCELLENT VIDEO!!1
Awesome video, once again. I've noticed this very thing over the years of getting better at hard enduro. As long as you can keep one foot weighted on the peg, you can make it over almost anything.
Great video Keep them coming. You dont get more traction sitting on the rear of the seat. The pegs are closer to the rear tire and put more force into the tire than sitting on the seat does. When trying to get over an obstacle and Im just spinning the rear tire, I put one foot on the peg, push down and use the clutch and throttle at the same time, I get better traction and get over the obstacle. works every time. I'm nowhere near your level, but the technique works :-)
I'm barely a gumby at enduro/hard enduro, but I can observe some mechanical issues here; Stand on your seat, when you push that seat sideways back and forth, your feet physical move 1 foot to the side in order to move the seat 1 foot to the side, when you stand on your pegs, and your feet move 3'' to the side the seat also, again, moves 1 foot to the side + - . there is no 'mechanical advantage' here, however you are increasing your mobility 4 fold, you essentially become 4 times the rider that you were when you predominantly sat, you can flick the bike all over the place as required in hard enduro. Here in lies or lay the trade off; it's comfy and takes less energy to sit on the bike, true ( I do that a lot), but as is mentioned in this video, the topic of this video is keeping the momentum, once you've lost it, it's difficult to regain it, you then can exhaust yourself carrying your bike from rock to rock or log to log etc... So in the long run, all things being equal, in challenging situations, it pays huge dividends to stand and ''not weight the ground''. I'm always looking for opportunities to sit and rest instead of stand lol, but I know the difference, and this video makes that even clearer.
Another excellent video. Instead of practicing the controlled, side/ side dab between logs how about trying it on off camber. It’s a rewarding challenge to be forced to dismount on the downhill side of the bike while keeping the bike balanced. Your knee pit or ankle are often all that’s left on the seat.
I need to train more on this, its not easy with short legs though. But it's very obvious when you ride in tough terrain, when both feets are down its game over, i rather restart the section/obstacles if possible :)
I've only been riding single track/enduro style riding for a few years, and at 54 yrs old and out of shape, technique is paramount to having decent days on the bike. That said, this is a REALLY good video for guys trying to improve their skills, but still haven't made sense of what dabbing is for, when to do it, when you should try to stay on the pegs and throttle through etc.
Sometimes when you don’t need the help of the suspension you can get more traction sitting on the rear of the seat. Everyone knows when you want to clutch start a bike and traction is limited you will drop to the back of the seat. And you usually do this after you’ve already tried it from the pegs with no success.
I’d disagree. I’ve had much more success, as a light rider, bouncing my weight to the back of the bike, while standing on my pegs. If I drop/sit to the back of the seat, I’m not able to get the grip
The control you have over wheel spin boggles my mind. But what I really want to know is do you think you would have that same control on say a 2018 ktm xcw carburetor. I do understand I won’t be able to ride like you on any bike but I’m looking at buying a 2018 xcw. Thanks!
Exactly! Not being a young man I have had to spend many, many hours on the stationary bike, rower and weight work to get good leg strength - and all that just to be able to stand comfortably for a long time while riding. But it has been worth it! 🦵🦵💪💪👍
Hell yeah! Great info. I don’t know if it is me or the bike but, my WR450 seems really unstable and hard to static balance. I get on the CRF450R, and have minimal issues. What gives? Either way i think the WR is going away for a 2 stroke of some sort.
Stroke Brad here(lost balance) Can't wait to try this at low to no speed. Last year I couldn't get off the seat at all, now I can stand going up and downhill on asphalt(short stints), and a little bit coasting downhill on a dirt road, uphill is still a no go, but can't wait to use this skill and then more uphill dirt roads standing. your tips, have really been a playbook to recovery, Big thank you!! Haven't seen you in a while, hope your racing lots and surviving the heat!! Cheers
Hey Rich, maybe you touched on this in another video, but are you on a EX? I would've figured a hard Enduro rider would prefer the EC. Comment on that?
I'm 6'2" Its definitely an advantage. But Mario Roman is about the same height as you. Around 5'7" 5'8" he does these techniques with ease. It's more about the time you put in.
I might consider sliding forks a few mills up, a little sag at the rear to cover the height difference. It's nice hearing from a pro. Liked that. Thank you
The most important unspoken hard enduro technique, be over 6’2” tall. Don’t think so? Trials bikes have no seat to give frame/crotch clearance. And every hard enduro pro is tall as hell. MX guys are small, hard enduro guys are tall with long legs. If you are an honest instructor, you would say that.
Graham Jarvis is under 6 foot Mario Roman is 5’8”. Sandra Gomez is 5’6. Height helps absolutely. But being 6’2 isn’t a requirement. That’s your second try looking for something to hate. I’d say less time commenting and more time riding might help you.
Great and helpful tips thanks, Just question, what is the real differance to weight to peg or sit on back of seat , , Both should be transfer to weight to rear tire,
Technically any differance?
There is a deference in your ability to move on the machine. With your feet on the pegs and body and butt off the seat you can then move your hips back and forth with much more efficiency.
Check this video out, specifically 5:20
th-cam.com/video/9We23F-KyGk/w-d-xo.html
... and the second one is center of gravity. Stand on pegs and sit on seat is different center of gravity (you+bike).
@@IRCTireUSAMoto very nice tips again thankss
@@rejzo-production Your center of mass might be lower if you sit versus standing, but the ability to *quickly* move your center of mass left, right, forwards and back is probably more important so you can balance your bike in changing situations. Not to mention sometimes you need to de-weight your bike or compress your front/rear suspension for some techniques, all of which require standing as the first step.
simple physiology of human body .... there are no proprioceptors * your body balance sensors * between your legs when sitting. it's in ankles; knees and internal ear.... ;) so closed loop of balance info can come to ankle on footpeg, then knee, them internal ear then brain and all loop back to load back peg and adjust body. try it just sitting just on bicycle seat or on a super narrrow seat at home, legs out of ground
Love your page. I'll buy IRC just to keep these vids going!
Thanks for the support! More to come!!
Same here. Never used them before but I'm going to start now
Knocking it out of the park with these videos.
I love this statement:
''...not weighting the ground''
pretty much says it all, I need to try this.
Professional and helpful as always. I don’t ride with anyone as talented as you, thanks for the great information.
Such a great teacher!
Dang, this was really good detailed info. It helps me realize what I need to focus on to progress
Love your content! Perfect amount of description combined with appropriate video footage!
This makes me excited and want to go ride hard enduro more and just practice these skills!
I've been thinking about this for awhile now. Thanks for the detailed breakdown. And thanks for acknowledging not everyone is as tall as you!
Thanks again Rich!! Always look forward to your videos as they have helped me immensely as I progress in the Enduro world.
Thanks rich! Best riding videos out there!
I have finally understand the idea of this video after I started riding off-road for half a year
Excellent vids man! Great tips.
your advice and tips really help..steaight to the points
Great video. Always a great skill to work on.
Excellent video, thank you!
I wouldn’t have thought it was even possible to ride through a rock pile like that and yet you went through it so smoothly. I subscribed to also learn this magic. Well done.
as usual, very helpful and useful tips. I will never be a Jarvis rider but learning and applying this skills has made my regular trail rides that much better
Recovering from injury ....gonna practice foot dabs in my garage ! Thanks for helping us remember that there's always more to learn about riding and something you can get better at.👊✊✊✊✊
Thanks Rich for another excellent Video
I try to find the appropriate vid before a ride to help me remember what to work on
Well said. Needed this reminder, thanks for posting. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Beautiful. Crystal-clear and educational as always. Sitting in technical situations for me is admitting defeat; I try to avoid it at any cost and I know I got something wrong when it happens.
Excellent video. Thank you.
As usual good info. Keep it coming
Love the videos, you've helped me so much the last year with my riding. Thanks dude.
Hey @Rocketralph’s in the house!
Right on man!! Glad to help!!! Thanks for the support!
Great instruction!
Wow that is intense great to see this amazing training! 👍
You are an excellent teacher
This has got to be 1 of the best videos for progressing a skilled rider to the next leval of becoming 1 with there bike I have ever seen ... your an absolute legend RL 👊🏻🏁🏁
One of the best yet! Thanks, Rich 👊
Glad you liked it!
Love your channel and the breakdown of specific moves. I am looking for a used trials bike to practice on as I'm not ready to see my expensive (for me) enduro bike. Keep up the good work!
Will be practicing this this weekend ✊💨
Gold! Thank you for what you do, Rich
Glad you enjoy it!
i just love all your coaching.. i watch and save every video you put out and practice it out there
I appreciate that!
spent 3 years of riding to figure it out. brilliant content rich ! thank you !
As always, great info!
This was another top tier training video hitting key theory that others overlook. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
never stop learning iam 61 and love dirt biking on my xt 250 Thanks for the lessons
Great tips!
Great Channel!
Thanks IRC and Rich!
Thanks for watching! Appreciate the support!
Buying IRC just because of you and your videos
Thanks for the tips 🙏👍🇵🇹
Excelente dicas, sempre aprendendo com o expert!
Dear Rich, thank you so much for your lessons and learning! For me, you're the best teacher of enduro theme)) Thanks to you, i've got many things realized early been beyond of my mind)) God of enduro bless you!))) *handshake*
best input ever - so frickin hard to stay above the bike!!!!
Another Awesome Video, Great Info.🇺🇸👍👍
Thank You!
Love it man! Good video!
Gold!
Thanks.
Good tips Rich! I will definitely be working on keeping the pegs weighted and keeping the bike balanced 👍🏻
Thanks brother!! I have to get up there and shred with you sometime!
Real good tips thanks.
Awesome thank you
EXCELLENT info. I watch many videos where I'm mumbling to myself "get your feet on the PEGS!!" At 62 and shorter than 5'7", I'm trying to remember this ALL the TIME!!
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!1
great tips!
Excellent
Love your stuff bro! 🔥👌🏻💥
Excellent video.. Very well explained!! Nice work!
Thaks for watching!
Thanks for another great vid to help progress in our sport
No problem 👍 Thanks for watching.
Priceless tip as always 👍🏽
Appreciate it!
great style dude!
Awesome video, once again. I've noticed this very thing over the years of getting better at hard enduro. As long as you can keep one foot weighted on the peg, you can make it over almost anything.
Thanks man! Crazy what these bikes can do!
Great channel
Always enjoy your vids, I try and put them into use.
Great to hear!
great tips
Excelent!
Great video Keep them coming. You dont get more traction sitting on the rear of the seat. The pegs are closer to the rear tire and put more force into the tire than sitting on the seat does. When trying to get over an obstacle and Im just spinning the rear tire, I put one foot on the peg, push down and use the clutch and throttle at the same time, I get better traction and get over the obstacle. works every time. I'm nowhere near your level, but the technique works :-)
DANCE on the Pegs - Love it❤❤❤
thanks bro
All true .. and good luck staying on pegs on that fifth (or later) hour on hard enduro race =)
"Seat with your feet". Thanks, man, as usual!
I'm barely a gumby at enduro/hard enduro,
but I can observe some mechanical issues
here;
Stand on your seat, when you push that seat
sideways back and forth, your feet physical move
1 foot to the side in order to move the seat 1 foot
to the side, when you stand on your pegs,
and your feet move 3'' to the side the seat also, again,
moves 1 foot to the side + - .
there is no 'mechanical advantage' here, however
you are increasing your mobility 4 fold, you essentially
become 4 times the rider that you were when you predominantly
sat, you can flick the bike all over the place as required in hard enduro.
Here in lies or lay the trade off;
it's comfy and takes less energy to
sit on the bike, true ( I do that a lot), but as is mentioned in
this video, the topic of this video is keeping the momentum,
once you've lost it, it's difficult to regain it,
you then can exhaust yourself carrying your
bike from rock to rock or log to log etc...
So in the long run, all things being equal, in challenging
situations, it pays huge dividends to stand and ''not weight
the ground''.
I'm always looking for opportunities to sit and rest instead of stand
lol, but I know the difference, and this video makes that even clearer.
6:53 ''...the top riders dabs are for corrections only''
Something I definitely did not realize.
Thanks for another great video! Lets ride now to improve kkk
Another excellent video. Instead of practicing the controlled, side/ side dab between logs how about trying it on off camber. It’s a rewarding challenge to be forced to dismount on the downhill side of the bike while keeping the bike balanced. Your knee pit or ankle are often all that’s left on the seat.
thanks keep it up
Thanks, will do!
I need to train more on this, its not easy with short legs though. But it's very obvious when you ride in tough terrain, when both feets are down its game over, i rather restart the section/obstacles if possible :)
I've only been riding single track/enduro style riding for a few years, and at 54 yrs old and out of shape, technique is paramount to having decent days on the bike. That said, this is a REALLY good video for guys trying to improve their skills, but still haven't made sense of what dabbing is for, when to do it, when you should try to stay on the pegs and throttle through etc.
AMEN
I’ll by IRC which are factory on my crf300l , just to support this
Sometimes when you don’t need the help of the suspension you can get more traction sitting on the rear of the seat.
Everyone knows when you want to clutch start a bike and traction is limited you will drop to the back of the seat. And you usually do this after you’ve already tried it from the pegs with no success.
I’d disagree. I’ve had much more success, as a light rider, bouncing my weight to the back of the bike, while standing on my pegs. If I drop/sit to the back of the seat, I’m not able to get the grip
Caleb
Is that how you clutch start a bike down hill?
The control you have over wheel spin boggles my mind. But what I really want to know is do you think you would have that same control on say a 2018 ktm xcw carburetor. I do understand I won’t be able to ride like you on any bike but I’m looking at buying a 2018 xcw. Thanks!
I plateaued at beginner a long time ago and still there
i found it very important to train legs strength to be able to ride hard terrain on one leg for long periods
Exactly! Not being a young man I have had to spend many, many hours on the stationary bike, rower and weight work to get good leg strength - and all that just to be able to stand comfortably for a long time while riding. But it has been worth it! 🦵🦵💪💪👍
Definitely strong legs are important!
Hell yeah! Great info. I don’t know if it is me or the bike but, my WR450 seems really unstable and hard to static balance. I get on the CRF450R, and have minimal issues. What gives? Either way i think the WR is going away for a 2 stroke of some sort.
I don't think there would be much of difference but I haven't put a lot of time on those bikes.
Кароч, не останавливаться
Stroke Brad here(lost balance)
Can't wait to try this at low to no speed. Last year I couldn't get off the seat at all, now I can stand going up and downhill on asphalt(short stints), and a little bit coasting downhill on a dirt road, uphill is still a no go, but can't wait to use this skill and then more uphill dirt roads standing.
your tips, have really been a playbook to recovery, Big thank you!!
Haven't seen you in a while, hope your racing lots and surviving the heat!!
Cheers
Right on man! Glad the videos are helping! Keep hammering! Get that balance back!
Weighted pegs drops the center of gravity ,weighed seat raise it.🙂
question... is some bikes too heavy to do this or is it possible on all enduros... ie: ktm 450
Possible on all!
Nice video,, I just completed an Enduro 4 day class in Colombia with an ex Dakar finisher.. My conclusion after the class is to buy a new Harley.
Made me laugh but stick at it, amazing how many skills can be developed in a small space
One foot on a peg, the other on a rock is called "SCOOTER"
Hey Rich, maybe you touched on this in another video, but are you on a EX? I would've figured a hard Enduro rider would prefer the EC. Comment on that?
Ec
@@IRCTireUSAMoto just ditched the lights then, I take it?
Thanks, but how tall are you? I find those technique a bit challenging on my 175cm height at times. Been learning a lot from you. Thanks again
IMO these balance and weighting skills are even more important if you’re not tall.
I'm 6'2" Its definitely an advantage. But Mario Roman is about the same height as you. Around 5'7" 5'8" he does these techniques with ease. It's more about the time you put in.
I might consider sliding forks a few mills up, a little sag at the rear to cover the height difference. It's nice hearing from a pro. Liked that. Thank you
It would be Great If there Will Be subtitles. Sometime hard to understand words, if you Foreign Language
So i can practice in my back yard without even starting the engine?! BRB
This is the good stuff. Dab and back to pegs, not dab and sit.
Exactly!
My bike is to heavy to do those turns its 280lbs and I'm 100 lol
that s why trial riders don t have a useful seat and never use it
Big difference between sitting and the sack of potatoes style of riding :)
Would I be the first to say you sound similar to William Shatner?
The most important unspoken hard enduro technique, be over 6’2” tall. Don’t think so? Trials bikes have no seat to give frame/crotch clearance. And every hard enduro pro is tall as hell. MX guys are small, hard enduro guys are tall with long legs. If you are an honest instructor, you would say that.
Graham Jarvis is under 6 foot Mario Roman is 5’8”. Sandra Gomez is 5’6. Height helps absolutely. But being 6’2 isn’t a requirement. That’s your second try looking for something to hate. I’d say less time commenting and more time riding might help you.