GETTING THE MOST OUT OF THE MILITARY PRESS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2019
- The military press is the king of the upper body lifts. It is the better exercise for shoulder function, if done properly. The problem is that the first rep takes so much out of you that it affects the rest of your set. In this video, Chris demonstrates the proper technique and how to optimize the military press.
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Hmmm...never thought about starting a militairy press like that and start to count from the top position. Great point Thibs.
Have you tried breathing and bracing at the top as well? Filling your belly with air at the top and performing the rep(s) without breathing at the bottom. This helps a lot as well.
This trainer is so good!
You missed the over extension of her wrist creasing an unnecessary moment arm.
One of the most important lifting videos I've ever seen.
Good tip for those that want to start an easier rep. For those who want to build strength not really. Overhead press is like the deadlift of the upper body, starts from a dead stop… teaches you how to generate power from a stop, super important, to me the first rep is super important. As a 185 lbs strongman I press 270 strict and push press/jerk 330 you can’t compare the 2 lifts.
So you have clowns on you tube showing ppl how to lift with 200k+ subs that know nothing about anything and then this guy that 100% knows what he is doing only has 13.k subs at this time. WTF sub to this man now
Hail Satan
people dont like the truth and most have fragile egos that can not manage being told they are doing wrong and more so can not handle being ostracized from the herd
So true
What are you on about? The barbell should go straight up whle your head goes back and forth. He didnt mention it. Thats is why he doesnt have the subs.
The other key is to keep the bar path very close to ones face . Bill Starr always taught that it should nearly graze your nose on the way up, "As if you were in a Smith Machine" with such a tight groove.
I like the push press tip and will now implement that tip when performing military presses.
As usual Thib comes up with something I’ve never thought on before. “Same starting position as bench press”. Gold.
I am an ordinary man. I see military press in title I click
Awesome man, this will help me as well. And great job coaching her throughout the video.
Another great addition to proper training technique. Dammit...thank you Tnation !
You are the best. Thank you for your advices.
That makes so much sense! Fantastic
This is what I show my shoulder patients to help them develop their muscles after injury! With less weight, of course, and usually dumbbells so they can position their hands so their shoulders will be in more neutral position . I learned this from my husband who was also a PT! Thanks for sharing!
As a former WLer one day I thought I was more comfortable cleaning the bar from the ground... even only 3,4 cleans,ie at the beginning of every set, had an incredible drive on my bench press.
Love your videos!!!
U rock brother!
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This is Gold
Good point 🙏
Good point.
Cool stuff
This method always instinctually felt better to me
i love the military/ ohp
Shoulder devil-opment
Where’s the best exercises for shoulders video? I didn’t see it in the playlist.
Several people can’t put it on the shoulder shelf
Not bad number really out of 6 billion
Should i have my scapula/shoulder blades in the same position as in a bench press or any chest press ??
How come u don’t place the barbell in the bone of the palm instead of the soft middle of the palm ? , I find having my bone under the barbell I get much more powe
The bar should be above the back of the head in the top position.
It's a better way of saying it than that the head should push forward through the window.
The idea to start the set from the top position seems great.
I'll try using the push press to get there. But I don't really think I need it, because I start from a low position which fits my mobility, and it's not a weak spot for me.
It would be better if the girl wasn't a beginner. She never did the press right.
exactly
Holy Legs Batman
Now i am confused, this kind of military press look more like the old power move called the press.
When i do military my fists are on the side of my sholders and not in fron of them, yes closer than a behind neck press but not that much close like in the press.
A lot of people just call the move demonstrated in the video "the press."
@@larrydickman1094 Yes but is not military.
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@Big Investment My goal is to be strong in more strict movement.
I`am the type of guy who would rather be strong in dumbbell bench press than barbell bench press.
We all train based on our goals.
Sorry but Reg Park and Jack Delinger were promoters of the bench press before anyone heard of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
been stagnant on OHP till this video
What do you think about the behind the neck press. I found it feels more natural to me than the military press? While still most people don't have the mobility to do it properly... And I've watched your videos on peaking. I think maybe you forgot to take one for type 2A, or I just didn't find it yet.
Thanks for all the great inputs :)
Pretty sure he would tell you not to do that.
I would do BNP if you want to hit those side delts hard with a ton of weight and have very good thoracic mobility. Otherwise don't press with barbells at all and do dumbbells instead, you get only half the activation from the press. If you only care about triceps then you can do reverse grip which is safe for anyone.
I'm not an expert, but every expert I heard discuss the bnp has said not to do it, even if you have the mobility to do so
Physiotherapists will tell yo not to do it, plenty of expert weight lifters do it. If you can do the clean and jerk then you can do the BNP which is about 50 times easier for mobility.
@@LTPottenger lmao what? How? First of all what expert weightlifters use the bnp? Genuinely curious. And ths mobility required for the clean and jerk is trainable. It might be harder to learn than the bnp but on the bnp you're fighting your own anatomy
Few things he didnt cover. its not strictly your arms that should be pressing, but your legs and back as well. its a fundamental upper body movement yet the strength of the lift comes from the lower body. after all, you are pressing the barbell upwards so you need a strong and stable platform in which to press. the barbell should typically sit just below the neck on top of the clavicle. how wide your grip is depends entirely on you. your head is tugged in and your back is arched because how well you press at the start depends more on how strong your lats are rather than arm strength. strong lats is half the strength of the exercise assuming your legs and glutes are properly positioned for a strong base. you press back amd upwards not the other way round
That’s a push press . Strict form is for shoulder strength , push press full body workout
Strict press means lower body and core stiffness is mandatory.
What's your opinion on behind the head press?
Not as bad as many people think, provided that you have optimal shoulder and thoracic spine mobility. Personally, the behind the neck press feels better than the military press. Paul Carter is the same way. But not everybody can do it safely. Then again, if you can't it's a sign that you need to improve mobility,
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Yes , I agree.
I thought your elbows supposed to "sit" on your lats at the start of the movement?
@Black Pill Most people arch the back in the bench to raise the chest thus reducing the range of motion also
@Black Pill Unless you are among the lucky few not facing shoulder injuries ever, pressing from the weak spot needlessly causes joint stress which can lead to major shoulder injuries when done with heavy enough weights (it is where if you lack upper back and rotator cuff muscle strength, that one shall momentarily lose his controlled eccentric and force the ball of the humerus to rotate inwardly. Push pressing on the first rep is there to alleviate that.
@@spknhiker89 depends how much you arch your back though
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OHP is the deadlift of the upper body. Or not anymore x)
100% should always start from a dead stop. The goal is to learn how to generate power from the shoulders which is a skill that needs to be trained. 👏🏽
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If she chooses a thumbless grip her wrists will be in a far more neutral position and avoid excessive back lean as well as painful wrists.
That's suicide......grip
Never use thumbs for military press
@@matthewhardwick365 Well when you push press 95 lbs and all, its not to hard to use a thumb less grip. Try that with 315.
@@silentk59 in non retard units I strict press 80kg for reps.
I have in the past done 2 plate push pressing, but it's not my favourite movement.
Thumbless grip is an absolute win and if you have control and experience I 100% recommend it. (Overhead only not bench)
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Thibs even recommends thumbless for bench.
Why is she in a front rack? This isn’t a push press. Her wrists should be neutral & her triceps resting on her lats. She’s strict pressing with a push press technique, no wonder the first reps it’s so hard.
It would be better if he was doing it.. Or someone who knows how to do it.. She seems a little confused on his explanations. she keeps going too low after the first rep. a few times.
Respectfully I don't like this. You reduce the ROM and start with the negative to make it easier but this make it more effective in all case? A similar argument could be use to deadlift, pull ups, strict curl etc and this is very arguable.
Its not a negative press. It could be but hes not saying that at all.. All he is saying is start counting after your first cleared press..you can count 1 when you go back up.. hes not saying to count ONE on the way down.. Besides.. its just ONE rep.. Its like the bench press.. You don't count 1, when you lift the bar off the rack...do you?? No.. so same thing..
@@BX0207 then why not deadlift like this as well?
No, it certainly did NOT start with Arnold, for heaven's sake. It started when purpose-built benches became more common. That was long before Arnold. Heck, Larry Scott and, even more so, Bill Pearl had Arnold-type bodies.
Ok 👍
You sound just like George St. Pierre the ufc fighter, when you talk. That's knarly 🤙
Can I meet her?
Never say that again
A smart trainer makes all the guys preaching "full rom" and "pause at the bottom" look dumb. I do the lift just like he says, and I ignore the idiots.