You see we in Australia don't have any problems with the ticking noise a Chinese diesel heater pump make, it just sounds like the rythmic ticking of the electric fence units we use to keep the Salt Water Crocodiles away at night, and generally it sends us off to the land of Nodd in minutes.
@@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51 My tinitus is louder than the pump, also if the cicadas are out making a gowdawful racket, you certainly dont need a heater.
greggy weggy, I'm reminded that Captain Hook is quite alarmed at the ticking sounds of a particular croc, and would not find any rest in such a fence. Poor devil.
I thank GOD I dont have to contend with the huge water lizards like ya do. I used a ticking electric fence to keep the coyotes out of a goat pen. Stay safe .
"Just ignore the smoke". I fng love this guy. Ive had one of these heaters for 5 years and I got tons of help from your videos. These heaters are improving a lot of people's quality of life and you're contributing to that. With all the b.s. out there...this is quality genuine non bias family friendly programing. Nicely done
I had one of the first prototypes of this silent diesel pump installed by the inventor himself and it's still working coming into the second winter of use.
Awesome vid on an awesome product. I bought one of the prototypes a few months back as James was just getting started, a complete gentleman to deal with. I run my 5kW workshop heaters on kerosene so between us we were able to prove his new pump internals stood up to both fuels and changing viscosities with temperature. Must have run at least 100 litres by the end of my testing so a thorough test IMHO - and a quiet one to boot ! Thanks for all the vids David, you've been a massive help to me in my workshop diesel hearter shenanigans.
Ok do you know the flash point of kero is considerably lower than diesel. 65 deg celcius. Diesel way over 100. For safety sake I'd stick with diesel. Good luck.
After a year with this pump it’s amazing no noise at all on the 2nd gen pump James does I still chat with him by email when setting new heaters up He’s a great guy the after sales he does are brilliant top man I have my pump in the garage of the motorhome so basically under the bed direct below the pillow lol no noise or ticking I only hear the heater on start up I can leave the heater on all night with temp settings to come on when temps drop I invested in a ignite challenger controller too so I can turn the heater on when I’m out brilliant
I will have one but give the poor chap time to catch up on the influx of orders lol. .....I can just see some chinese firm copying it but just don't buy them...this guy obviously talented and I'm willing to pay for that price, I hope others follow my suit.
Bought one last week and waiting to arrive. My normal pump is suspended underneath and is reasonably inaudible inside. I want it to be silent outside as well though. For those complaining about the price - it's a bespoke product handmade. It's not going to be as cheap as a Chinese factory made product like the diesel heaters, which are a bargain we can all agree. Compare to an eberspacher/webasto pump and suddenly it becomes cheap.
I saw one video where the guy screwed a cup hook into the wood above, then suspended the fuel pump using a tie wrap ( or some people call it a zip tie ) from the cup hook. The tie wrap went through the bracket mounting hole in the fuel pump. After that it was completely quiet. It was amazing!
From what i have ascertained from watching videos is that the pump needs to be at a particular angle to operate properly, if that's true or not, I have no idea.
Adding a mass to the standard pump is the best way to absorb and disperse the noise. I've tried a lot of different materials foam etc, and the heavier silicon sealant was the winner !
My dog comes over and wags his tail at the start of your vids haha. Fascinating bits you find to talk about. I am very interested in someone's comment who suggested a simple PVC vacuum tube to muffle pump. Sounded silly at first but his idea was actually pretty good and worth more thinking for this problem.
@@DavidMcLuckie The idea is to place the original solenoid type pump into a short section of PVC pipe (say 50mm diameter) with a stop end on each end. Gland or seal the fuel lines in and out each end, do the same with the power cable. Drill another hole and fit a schrader valve (old valve stem from a wheel should do). Seal the whole thing up. Fit a vacuum pump to the valve and suck all the air out. Now you shouldn't be able to hear anything other than possibly noise transferred via the fuel lines. It should work well I expect. You might need some low density foam to help keep the pump centred away from the pipe walls. I thought overheating might be an issue but perhaps the fuel flow might be sufficient to cool it.
@@fionnut Good description. The comment that gave me the idea implied a fairly simple vacuum pump and described how he could hear the noise lessen as the pump slowly kicked in. It would only be a partial vacuum so I dont think heat dissipation would be a problem.
@@fionnut lol. bicycle valve will not hold a vacume as it is a one way valve that keeps air in and not out of the tire. so you must install the valve bacwards to make it work.. i would rather fill the pipe with insulating wool and be done with it.
@@vihreelinja4743 It's possible to use the type of valves used in air conditioning systems instead, these will definitely hold a vacuum and are still cheap. Insulation won't dampen the sound to nearly the same extent.
I'm intending to build an insulated box outside my shed (workshop) to house all the Gubbins except the controller and the hot air outlet tubing so hopefully there will be little or no noise. Also removing the necessity to bring diesel into the shed. 👍 😎
One day I will have a camper van or a shack in the woods and when I do this will be the pump I will use with my Chinese diesel heater, I run a heater in my wee workshop and when I start it up that clicking pump pesters me and I could well imagine what it would be like if you was trying to get to sleep 🙉 that silent pump is a work of art and I bet the man making them is inundated with with orders , I do hope the man does very well out of this ingenious invention.
For myself and I suspect many others, it's a big job or not feasible to get this pump above their fuel tanks as most have their heaters, pumps and tanks close to their van floor. Very impressed with the quietness. Hopefully syphoning can be over come. 👍
@@DavidMcLuckie Thing is, I have everything under my sink. Heater bottom back, tank above (10lt) and the fuel pump bottom front as you stand at the sink. Area about 400x400mm. 🙄😳🙃
Hello I will eventually move my fuel tank below the pump and heater. For now, I’ve put a small 12v solenoid valve in the fuel line. It opens when heater is running. Like David I hadn’t read instructions so awoke next morning to quite a large pool of diesel on the road. As I burned off the excess in the heater the smoke was unbelievable for about 5 mins. Neighbours thought van was burning. Anyway great pump. No regrets,
received my pump off james installed to day the new model is totally different to the one in the video must say they are a brilliant piece of kit totally worth the money
@@DavidMcLuckie very true i had to pump from the garage at the back of my motorhome to under the seating area which is just over 7mtr in length the pump took less than 1 minute to get the diesel to the heater was well impressed
Just saw this on the foresty forest channel. He couldn't fit and test it as the ambient temperature was too high. He wants to see how it performs in -30c
Have you considered using noise/sound meters when you measure the volume of pumps or exhausts? At a pinch you could use one of the many apps available. That way you can do objective rather than subjective test which are way more valuable.
I just had a brain wave. Would this deliever enough fuel for the 16kw hydronic heater ? That way I could buy one as a back up that would fit both my 16kw heater and the 5kw air heater.
I live with one 4 feet away and the ticking is actually kinda nice and comforting... though mine hangs on a couple of cable ties within a modified toolbox on the front deck so its like a quiet clock you have to actually try and hear.
What is that sensor type thing fitted to the front of your heater? (Drilled and presumably tapped into the main heat exchanger casting? Is that your burn temperature sensor?
Great video and smart built. Did you test it with the afterburner as well? And if yes, does it keep full functionality (like measuring the amount of fuel used)?
Depending on how this pump housing is used the design is great or bad. I think. By that I mean that I think it is a very bad idea to have electronics underneath something that can leak on it. I would be more happy when the electronics would be above the pump and even have a devider screen in between in case something would spray out of the pump in case of a failure. And a small drain hole in the bottom so you would see the leak before it would destroy the electronics after filling the box.
I doubt it, think how far whale noises travel, etc. water doesn't absorb sound much. You would probably have to make it submerging yourself too, not all pumps are insulated.
its a basic fish tank pump with custom guts and a PLC. Diaphragm pumps are lift only thats why in the us we call them lift pumps the one thing over looked by most is the electronic pulse pump is a fuel injector and a fuel pump all rolled into one thats why it so loud if you could replace it with just a injector or a high frequency pintle valve and a normal vane pump it would be allot quieter but improper installation would pose a fire risk im running an 8kw in a 26' class a my tank is 2' above my heater pump is on center with burn chamber with a 30* pitch hard line go's from tank to pump then from pump 6" sag under heater at night outside -25f. running on high 5mhz with a shell temp of 350f on low 1.5mhz with a shell temp of 170f roughly 1 gal. a night give or take
Nice, although this seems a bit overkill to me. I found the best way to mount the pump is have it suspended by the fuel lines an inch back from the pump on either side so the pump itself is floating. That way the hose itself acts to isolate vibrations from the pump (works especially well with soft silicone hose). My pump is barely audible when properly isolated, it's the surface the pump is attached to acting like a speaker cone and amplifying the noise which is normally the issue.
I wonder about long term durability. Pull chord ICE motors have this type of mechanism (diaphragm run by vacuum) but they eventually age/give out. Not that your typical impeller type pump is immortal or anything.
I had the second prototype of this silent pump fitted by the inventor himself and it's still working going into its second winter after a summer's rest. Absolutely silent.
Speaking of pumps... anyone know if the chinese heater pumps are less effecient/less percise compared to an actual OEM webasto/eberspacher pump(?) Reason I ask, I'm curious to know if a chinese heater would benefit (a/k/a see increased btu and/or fuel efficiency) if an OEM pump were swapped into a chinese heater(?)
When General Motors car manufacturer came out with the 1988 Oldsmobile diesel engine for their cars they used a 350 gas engine and converted it to diesel. To get it to start faster on cold days they put in 6-volt glow plugs instead of the usual 12 volts glow plugs. I wonder if you could do the same and reduce the startup time and less amp draw saving on battery-operated power supplies like the Jaberwaky I think it's called.
Nice review of a nice pump. Does it make a different with the silent pump what fuel you use? I’ve been using main,y kero and an odd bit of diesel here and there..
I’m guessing the lack of orange overalls means it’s the “other season” in Scotland (the season of midge rather than the season of pishing it down 😂😂😂) I married a Scot, so have some knowledge of such things - I’ve been there during both seasons 🤭 Amazing bit of kit; a beautiful example of “shed engineering” from James, for the same price as one of those “super quiet” pumps that isn’t.
I installed one in a VW Crafter camper and you could only hear the sound of air leaving the vents on full power. But some people only have the option of installing the fuel pump inside.
I know you've been asked a thousand times but is there a "better" Chinese diesel heater to buy. I've just seen they are £71.99 now on fleabay. Love the vids and as a long term boiling bag wearer I understand why you've ditched the Orange apparel. Summer mode
The Lavaner heater seems to be a better made unit. Better quality of parts and plastics. But it is more expensive, but still not Webasto or Eberspacher prices though.
Does a brushless heater also make any audible difference? I´ve red Webasto, Eberspächer, etc marketing their heaters as brushless and apparently therefore quieter than the chinese?
With the pump being so quiet it didn't occur to me that anyone would still want to mount it outside. I'm not sure of the IP rating of the enclosure, that would be one for James.
But the siphon happens with the flow of fuel. It'll siphon the entire fuel tank through the heater if you let it. A one way valve would not prevent this.
I think I need a spring loaded valve but with a very light spring pressure. Low enough not to impede the pumping of fuel but high enough to stop a siphon flow.
@David McLuckie James told me he thinks his pump would be much more successful at dosing gasoline/petrol in a cheap diesel heater setup. Thoughts? Would, you consider trying it?
Only if there's a vacuum breaker on top of the loop. Have you never siphoned petrol from somebody else's car? But you'd have to close the vacuum breaker for the pump to operate
Hi David. I have a question, the heat-resistant cover on the exhaust, is it okay or has it started to burn out? I know that the inside is a braid of fiber and the second orange coat is made of heat-resistant rubber. I ask because I use this coating and it sinters and darkens ps google translate... thanks for the reply
@@DavidMcLuckie I have the same sleeve. 260 degrees C long-term, short-term 1100 C. Unfortunately, it probably depends on whether it is in free space or closed. In the closed where there is no possibility of ventilation and cyrculation of air, there is a darkening of the silicone. I use these sleeves for engines but they are not in contact with the exhaust, the heater unfortunately began to black .... It is therefore a fact that the heating runs at maximum power
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You see we in Australia don't have any problems with the ticking noise a Chinese diesel heater pump make, it just sounds like the rythmic ticking of the electric fence units we use to keep the Salt Water Crocodiles away at night, and generally it sends us off to the land of Nodd in minutes.
Agree ,,, also the pump is quieter than bloody cicadias ,,
Rob
Nowra
NSW
AU
@@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51 My tinitus is louder than the pump, also if the cicadas are out making a gowdawful racket, you certainly dont need a heater.
greggy weggy, I'm reminded that Captain Hook is quite alarmed at the ticking sounds of a particular croc, and would not find any rest in such a fence. Poor devil.
🤣🤣🤣
I thank GOD I dont have to contend with the huge water lizards like ya do. I used a ticking electric fence to keep the coyotes out of a goat pen. Stay safe .
"Just ignore the smoke". I fng love this guy. Ive had one of these heaters for 5 years and I got tons of help from your videos. These heaters are improving a lot of people's quality of life and you're contributing to that. With all the b.s. out there...this is quality genuine non bias family friendly programing. Nicely done
I had one of the first prototypes of this silent diesel pump installed by the inventor himself and it's still working coming into the second winter of use.
Your video was my first intro to the silent pump, thank you.
That's a good innovation! I find the ticking kind of reassuring, knowing the heater is still working! Then again, maybe I'll drop James a line!
Awesome vid on an awesome product. I bought one of the prototypes a few months back as James was just getting started, a complete gentleman to deal with. I run my 5kW workshop heaters on kerosene so between us we were able to prove his new pump internals stood up to both fuels and changing viscosities with temperature. Must have run at least 100 litres by the end of my testing so a thorough test IMHO - and a quiet one to boot !
Thanks for all the vids David, you've been a massive help to me in my workshop diesel hearter shenanigans.
.how do I order one for myself can't find any details
Is there an advantage to running kerosene?
@@gregoryschwarz2730 Use for High Altitude
Ok do you know the flash point of kero is considerably lower than diesel. 65 deg celcius. Diesel way over 100. For safety sake I'd stick with diesel. Good luck.
After a year with this pump it’s amazing no noise at all on the 2nd gen pump James does
I still chat with him by email when setting new heaters up
He’s a great guy the after sales he does are brilliant top man
I have my pump in the garage of the motorhome so basically under the bed direct below the pillow lol no noise or ticking I only hear the heater on start up
I can leave the heater on all night with temp settings to come on when temps drop
I invested in a ignite challenger controller too so I can turn the heater on when I’m out brilliant
Class bit of kit, just ordered. If Mr M rates it, nothing more to be said!
I will have one but give the poor chap time to catch up on the influx of orders lol. .....I can just see some chinese firm copying it but just don't buy them...this guy obviously talented and I'm willing to pay for that price, I hope others follow my suit.
Bought one last week and waiting to arrive. My normal pump is suspended underneath and is reasonably inaudible inside. I want it to be silent outside as well though. For those complaining about the price - it's a bespoke product handmade. It's not going to be as cheap as a Chinese factory made product like the diesel heaters, which are a bargain we can all agree. Compare to an eberspacher/webasto pump and suddenly it becomes cheap.
I saw one video where the guy screwed a cup hook into the wood above, then suspended the fuel pump using a tie wrap ( or some people call it a zip tie ) from the cup hook. The tie wrap went through the bracket mounting hole in the fuel pump. After that it was completely quiet. It was amazing!
"I saw one video" ... can you provide a link to the video(?)
@@__WJK__ i think it's Mel's big van small world Channel
From what i have ascertained from watching videos is that the pump needs to be at a particular angle to operate properly, if that's true or not, I have no idea.
Yeah. Just watched that video and not completely silent. Maybe 60% silent...
Adding a mass to the standard pump is the best way to absorb and disperse the noise.
I've tried a lot of different materials foam etc, and the heavier silicon sealant was the winner !
What do you mean adding a mass?
Did you just put a bunch of silicone on the pump (from a silicone tube)?
I am also curious
My dog comes over and wags his tail at the start of your vids haha. Fascinating bits you find to talk about. I am very interested in someone's comment who suggested a simple PVC vacuum tube to muffle pump. Sounded silly at first but his idea was actually pretty good and worth more thinking for this problem.
PVC vacuum tube? You have piqued my interest.
@@DavidMcLuckie The idea is to place the original solenoid type pump into a short section of PVC pipe (say 50mm diameter) with a stop end on each end.
Gland or seal the fuel lines in and out each end, do the same with the power cable. Drill another hole and fit a schrader valve (old valve stem from a wheel should do). Seal the whole thing up. Fit a vacuum pump to the valve and suck all the air out.
Now you shouldn't be able to hear anything other than possibly noise transferred via the fuel lines. It should work well I expect. You might need some low density foam to help keep the pump centred away from the pipe walls.
I thought overheating might be an issue but perhaps the fuel flow might be sufficient to cool it.
@@fionnut Good description. The comment that gave me the idea implied a fairly simple vacuum pump and described how he could hear the noise lessen as the pump slowly kicked in. It would only be a partial vacuum so I dont think heat dissipation would be a problem.
@@fionnut lol. bicycle valve will not hold a vacume as it is a one way valve that keeps air in and not out of the tire. so you must install the valve bacwards to make it work.. i would rather fill the pipe with insulating wool and be done with it.
@@vihreelinja4743 It's possible to use the type of valves used in air conditioning systems instead, these will definitely hold a vacuum and are still cheap.
Insulation won't dampen the sound to nearly the same extent.
I'm intending to build an insulated box outside my shed (workshop) to house all the Gubbins except the controller and the hot air outlet tubing so hopefully there will be little or no noise. Also removing the necessity to bring diesel into the shed. 👍 😎
Great Vidio David and clear precise instructions 👍
I was wondering the other day why not use a peristaltic pump, you answered the question 😆
Edit: watch full video 1st, very ingenious 👍
One day I will have a camper van or a shack in the woods and when I do this will be the pump I will use with my Chinese diesel heater, I run a heater in my wee workshop and when I start it up that clicking pump pesters me and I could well imagine what it would be like if you was trying to get to sleep 🙉 that silent pump is a work of art and I bet the man making them is inundated with with orders , I do hope the man does very well out of this ingenious invention.
I for one am happy to see that you've piped the exhaust OUTSIDE. I always got a wee bit queasy when it was blowing inside the shed. Good on ya.
CO is only a problem if you don't know you have a CO problem.
For myself and I suspect many others, it's a big job or not feasible to get this pump above their fuel tanks as most have their heaters, pumps and tanks close to their van floor. Very impressed with the quietness. Hopefully syphoning can be over come. 👍
You just need to make sure there isn't enough height difference to start a siphon. Taking the fuel supply from a stand pipe into the tank also helps.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thing is, I have everything under my sink. Heater bottom back, tank above (10lt) and the fuel pump bottom front as you stand at the sink. Area about 400x400mm. 🙄😳🙃
@@CarlJones14 and so it is siphon leaking?
Hello
I will eventually move my fuel tank below the pump and heater. For now, I’ve put a small 12v solenoid valve in the fuel line. It opens when heater is running. Like David I hadn’t read instructions so awoke next morning to quite a large pool of diesel on the road. As I burned off the excess in the heater the smoke was unbelievable for about 5 mins. Neighbours thought van was burning.
Anyway great pump. No regrets,
install a relay controlled tap in the fuel line.
I’ve run this in my Motorhome all winter, snow and all. Reliable and quiet. Recommended.
Cracking video, blimey it actually works!
Just waiting on mine to try out in my shed.
Now that is quiet. great vid as always.
The stock pumps come in a couple displacements. That's probably what the outside pot is for. :)
received my pump off james installed to day the new model is totally different to the one in the video must say they are a brilliant piece of kit totally worth the money
I think he's on version three or four. They get better with every generation.
@@DavidMcLuckie very true i had to pump from the garage at the back of my motorhome to under the seating area which is just over 7mtr in length the pump took less than 1 minute to get the diesel to the heater was well impressed
Protect this man and foresty forest at all costs
Yes, for without good forestry management Earth (mankind's only source of beer) could be imperiled... well it would.
YES, By All Means!, National Treasures Both !!!
There's an unusual continuity issue here... There's no orange overalls.. Great video mate 👍
How can bave one
Just saw this on the foresty forest channel. He couldn't fit and test it as the ambient temperature was too high. He wants to see how it performs in -30c
Can the pump be mounted on its side with the inlet and outlet fuel lines face down, for example on a wall ?
Have you considered using noise/sound meters when you measure the volume of pumps or exhausts?
At a pinch you could use one of the many apps available. That way you can do objective rather than subjective test which are way more valuable.
Yes, where is the sound meter?
yeah ive ordered a silent pump off James he as fitted a anti syphon so you can fit the pump higher or lower than the diesel tank
I just had a brain wave. Would this deliever enough fuel for the 16kw hydronic heater ?
That way I could buy one as a back up that would fit both my 16kw heater and the 5kw air heater.
Very cool! Thankfully the clicking is ok with me.
I live with one 4 feet away and the ticking is actually kinda nice and comforting... though mine hangs on a couple of cable ties within a modified toolbox on the front deck so its like a quiet clock you have to actually try and hear.
@@MIck-M I've got a mechanical heart valve. I hear ticking all the time whether the heaters on or not. 😀
What is that sensor type thing fitted to the front of your heater? (Drilled and presumably tapped into the main heat exchanger casting? Is that your burn temperature sensor?
Great video and smart built. Did you test it with the afterburner as well? And if yes, does it keep full functionality (like measuring the amount of fuel used)?
Works just the same as stock pump with the Afterburner.
Depending on how this pump housing is used the design is great or bad. I think. By that I mean that I think it is a very bad idea to have electronics underneath something that can leak on it. I would be more happy when the electronics would be above the pump and even have a devider screen in between in case something would spray out of the pump in case of a failure. And a small drain hole in the bottom so you would see the leak before it would destroy the electronics after filling the box.
WOW !!! james is a brilliant dude well done !
He is. It's a brilliant idea.
Very nice! Hope it's not like sauna in there. Very much a needed upgrade for campers etc or anyone sleeping on top of the heater.
First of all.. love your videos.
Maybe install a free DB meeter on your phone to measure the noise?
I've got an actual dB meter, but the values don't often relate to how it actually sounds.
I mounted my pump outside on the diesel tank...5 years ago. Didn't even know these made any noise until the videos popped up on my "algorithm".
Hey David, could the white filter looking component be an anti siphon valve?
Where is the link to purchase this silent pump please? Thanks for yourful videos.
Another great video 👍
How about installing the pump inside the tank submerged ? Would this muffle the pulsing ?
I doubt it, think how far whale noises travel, etc. water doesn't absorb sound much. You would probably have to make it submerging yourself too, not all pumps are insulated.
its a basic fish tank pump with custom guts and a PLC. Diaphragm pumps are lift only thats why in the us we call them lift pumps the one thing over looked by most is the electronic pulse pump is a fuel injector and a fuel pump all rolled into one thats why it so loud if you could replace it with just a injector or a high frequency pintle valve and a normal vane pump it would be allot quieter but improper installation would pose a fire risk im running an 8kw in a 26' class a my tank is 2' above my heater pump is on center with burn chamber with a 30* pitch hard line go's from tank to pump then from pump 6" sag under heater at night outside -25f. running on high 5mhz with a shell temp of 350f on low 1.5mhz with a shell temp of 170f roughly 1 gal. a night give or take
What kind of pump and injector valve are you using? My 50cc Honda Scooter has fuel injection and a fuel use comparable to a diesel heater.
Got it! There’s one man working in his workshop” sounds like a fight club movie line. “We are all Tyler Durton”!
Great video. Thanks.
Nice, although this seems a bit overkill to me.
I found the best way to mount the pump is have it suspended by the fuel lines an inch back from the pump on either side so the pump itself is floating. That way the hose itself acts to isolate vibrations from the pump (works especially well with soft silicone hose).
My pump is barely audible when properly isolated, it's the surface the pump is attached to acting like a speaker cone and amplifying the noise which is normally the issue.
What size tubing did you buy?
Hello great video would like to purchase one for my bus I have a Eber diesel heater 2kw.
Could not find details..
Thanks for your time and help.
I wonder about long term durability. Pull chord ICE motors have this type of mechanism (diaphragm run by vacuum) but they eventually age/give out. Not that your typical impeller type pump is immortal or anything.
I had the second prototype of this silent pump fitted by the inventor himself and it's still working going into its second winter after a summer's rest. Absolutely silent.
Speaking of pumps... anyone know if the chinese heater pumps are less effecient/less percise compared to an actual OEM webasto/eberspacher pump(?) Reason I ask, I'm curious to know if a chinese heater would benefit (a/k/a see increased btu and/or fuel efficiency) if an OEM pump were swapped into a chinese heater(?)
Which heater have you got and have you got a link for the pump please
I potted my standard pump in silicone (neutral cure, roof/gutter) within a electrical junction box and we can't hear it at night anymore !
Hmmm. Now you got me thinking. That's an easy one to try. Thank you.
Great vid.
I free hung my pump from the fuel lines using zip tie . Cost almost nothing and I can't hear it at all.
HELOOO, Great video as always.
where can I get this pump. does it suit the China diesel heaters
Hi just wondering where I can buy one of these silent pumps
Did you spend good money on pyrojacket hose for your exhaust when I have some lying here at my arse
When General Motors car manufacturer came out with the 1988 Oldsmobile diesel engine for their cars they used a 350 gas engine and converted it to diesel. To get it to start faster on cold days they put in 6-volt glow plugs instead of the usual 12 volts glow plugs. I wonder if you could do the same and reduce the startup time and less amp draw saving on battery-operated power supplies like the Jaberwaky I think it's called.
They actually used the big block to base the diesel on, not the 350. No siamesed exhaust/intake ports.
MPG?
Nice work. Cleaver
Nice review of a nice pump. Does it make a different with the silent pump what fuel you use? I’ve been using main,y kero and an odd bit of diesel here and there..
Nope. You can even run petrol through this pump, the seals are designed for it.
Where can I find exhaust wrap like that
A diaphragm pump means you can use 100% paraffin full time?
I just suspended my pump with a cable tie in the air with the rubber mount around it, can’t hear it.
Yo any info on a name brand or possibly where I can purchase one or anything?
I need 2 of these for my campers
I’m guessing the lack of orange overalls means it’s the “other season” in Scotland (the season of midge rather than the season of pishing it down 😂😂😂)
I married a Scot, so have some knowledge of such things - I’ve been there during both seasons 🤭
Amazing bit of kit; a beautiful example of “shed engineering” from James, for the same price as one of those “super quiet” pumps that isn’t.
Yeah, was 26ºC and running a heater. It was nearly 'taps aff' hot.
Just ordered 2 pumps
£99 seems very reasonable considering the parts plus the work which has gone into it
I wonder how much business this video made for him 😊 I’m definitely planning on buying one.
Hopefully lots. James is a very nice man.
Can't wait to experience the silent fan and the silent combustion.
Because if you know what your doing the pump is the least of your worries when it comes to making these units quiet.
I installed one in a VW Crafter camper and you could only hear the sound of air leaving the vents on full power. But some people only have the option of installing the fuel pump inside.
URL to buy that one?
nice one, for a hundred quid its worth every penny, and to be honest I would trust that pump over a china pump anyday, thanks for this video
Have you played more with the tuning with this pump? I'm having a little bit of trouble dialing in my previous tune with this new pump.
Only at first. It'll be time again soon to start firing up the heaters. :)
Is it possible to run one of these with no controller ?
I know you've been asked a thousand times but is there a "better" Chinese diesel heater to buy. I've just seen they are £71.99 now on fleabay. Love the vids and as a long term boiling bag wearer I understand why you've ditched the Orange apparel. Summer mode
The Lavaner heater seems to be a better made unit. Better quality of parts and plastics. But it is more expensive, but still not Webasto or Eberspacher prices though.
Nice bit of gear
Does a brushless heater also make any audible difference? I´ve red Webasto, Eberspächer, etc marketing their heaters as brushless and apparently therefore quieter than the chinese?
I'm not sure how much noise the brushes add to the motor. A difference perhaps but not sure you'd notice.
Hey Dave, great video.thanks 👍
How do I contact the fella that sells these?
Cheers mate, Bailey.
What happened to afterburner I am new to these CDH and all aprts
Thanks David but you didn't tell us if the enclosure is suitable for mounting under the vehicle, i.e. totally weatherproof?
He says it needs to be higher than the tank, so that might be impossible anyway?
With the pump being so quiet it didn't occur to me that anyone would still want to mount it outside. I'm not sure of the IP rating of the enclosure, that would be one for James.
Can you give a link to where to order one Thanks Kel
Hello,
Thank you for the tuto. Where can we buy the silent pump? Do you have a link please? Thank you.
The email link to contact the maker is in the description , he answers his emails quickly and is very helpful to any questions you might have.
How much more power does the silent pump use compared to the noisy one?
300Ma
Thanks for the video, do you have a link for the red exhaust insulation? I have the wrap type, but I think what you have would be better...
This is the stuff - amzn.to/3QWduwd
I ordered the 40mm stuff but I think it is a little big and I could probably have gone with a smaller size.
Just add a one-way valve to the mix to prevent the syphon effect happening and it'll be sorted... :)
But the siphon happens with the flow of fuel. It'll siphon the entire fuel tank through the heater if you let it. A one way valve would not prevent this.
I think I need a spring loaded valve but with a very light spring pressure. Low enough not to impede the pumping of fuel but high enough to stop a siphon flow.
@@DavidMcLuckie I am adding a small 12v valve powered by a relay triggered from the pumps positive feed because I cannot get my tank below the heater.
@David McLuckie James told me he thinks his pump would be much more successful at dosing gasoline/petrol in a cheap diesel heater setup. Thoughts? Would, you consider trying it?
Absolutely. The material in the pump is fuel rated and should give a much nicer burn with petrol. I'll have to set it up at some point.
Link for pump?
Dave, what exhaust sleeve are you using there??? Tia
This stuff - amzn.to/3FTGr6D
amazing and no orange coveralls lol !
Where do I get this pump.
I have emailed, but the email was returned
How do I order one of these pumps please
I wonder if you could use a peristaltic pump in a similar way, equally as quite I would think
You can't. That was what James tried first. The pipes split at random times.
What about using Tygon fuel line in the pump instead of pvc or silicon fuel lines
i need one! hate the clonking!
How can we buy the silent pump?
You can have the fuel tank higher than the heater , as long as you loop the fuel hose hirer than the tank simple fix.
Only if there's a vacuum breaker on top of the loop. Have you never siphoned petrol from somebody else's car? But you'd have to close the vacuum breaker for the pump to operate
I have been watching your videos on Diesel Air Heater. What type of orange colour exhaust pipe or cover you are using here?
This stuff - amzn.to/3Lo2Smy
I can't remember what diameter I got though.
@@DavidMcLuckie Thank you.
Any updates on the reliability of this pump?
Hi David. I have a question, the heat-resistant cover on the exhaust, is it okay or has it started to burn out? I know that the inside is a braid of fiber and the second orange coat is made of heat-resistant rubber. I ask because I use this coating and it sinters and darkens ps google translate... thanks for the reply
The one I'm using is silicone coated glass fibre. Still flexible and hasn't melted.
@@DavidMcLuckie I have the same sleeve. 260 degrees C long-term, short-term 1100 C. Unfortunately, it probably depends on whether it is in free space or closed. In the closed where there is no possibility of ventilation and cyrculation of air, there is a darkening of the silicone. I use these sleeves for engines but they are not in contact with the exhaust, the heater unfortunately began to black .... It is therefore a fact that the heating runs at maximum power
primer button should be on the cover, you dont need open cover every time when you need prime.
The prime function from the heater still works. The button is just another additional priming function.