Did The F-4S Survive The Gaijin Powercreep
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"Did the F4S Survive the powercreep?"
*Meanwhile the F4C rots in the gutter.*
What did they do to the f4c
Honestly, F-4C was tonns more fun than F-4E, especially if you take 3 GAU-4 gunpods.
No flares at 10.0, AIM-7Ds are about as reliable as German tanks circa 1945, and it's a hard-wing Phantom
@@zeetack8625 It's what they haven't done actually. It remains the exact same as it was when first introduced 4 years ago and it is outclassed by almost every plane it see's even in a downtier.
@@zeetack8625classic gaijin powercreep introduce new shiny plane, then slowy add more powerfull shiny planes that the other one needs to fight and is hopepless against
I paused my goon sesh to be here, this better be good.
wtf 5 hours ago how
@@ilikestarwars4438 patreon members get early access
this video drained my balls like no Bf.109 could
I had to forgoe my daily pegging
Bros a time traveller
failed my goon streak, thanks defeen
Stay focussed brother do not interupt the goon
NAAAAH WHY DID YOU RESPONT TO DS
Goon is a noun; basically someone who compulsively edges. EDGING is the verb.
Its a state
@@DEFYNgoon or bust
DEFYN calling us _his_ gooners 🥰
daddy defyn 🥺
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Maybe a petition could be started so Gaijin let's us deactivate the automatic radar change? Kinda similar to the square radar option, if you want you can activate it but for most people without touching it will be as automatic radar modes. I didn't notice it until I saw the video because I haven't been playing with planes with radar modes since before this actualization but it makes me mad.
Playing the F-14 has never been this miserable lol, what's the point of having a RIO am I right
Emergency flare?
Did this change just happen in last update? I haven’t flown since then
I think it's already a couple updates old, if I remember correctly it went live with the magic and other missiles buff
Between that and more recently dumbing down how planes react to controls "to make flying more intuitive for new players," flying in this game has become very annoying
Even after the radar change, I think my biggest issue with the plane (and F-4J) is its extremely long range ACM/HMD mode. Sometimes I just keep lock on wrong targets. Skill issue of my part tho.
BTW this plane is so slow even compare to other F-4s, slowest F-4on the deck. Both clean or full combat load condition. (F-4E is 100kph faster afaik, even F-4C is faster)
Bit of a double edged sword
Can be annoying but 10km also hinders you sometimes
HMD is peak anyways
@@DEFYN Ahh yeah, 7Fs are capable for a bit longer range and ACM/HMD with 10km is insufficient in some engagements I do agree. However, I would prefer 10 km a bit because top tier 16v16 already overloads my brain and I don't want to melt my brain by trying to lock the correct target multiple times. Still skill issue of my part lmao.
@@kiki7170I personally find 9-10km just too limiting. Imo the 19km ACM on the Mirage 2000s are the best for me.
I'd take it over 10km any day since it let's you select specific targets at long range without having to mess around with radar controls.
Defyn you gotta fly the superior energy fighter known as the IL-28, it has two VK-1’s like the MiG-15 bro you gotta fly it rn rn fr fr
IL 28 OP
Every il-28 I've seen gets punked lol
@@gangstercheesefries1112 nuh uh I fly it and have like a bajillion kills yuo just gotta fly it right and in a very niche way I have about 40 6 kill games with it it’s an underrated op gem bro trust me…
@@JayNDFTL you're not killing me in an il28 i promise u buddy
@@RayBarK1 that’s where you’re wrong, the insane energy generation of the IL-28 will easily carry me through, it is literally the XP-50 of 8.0
i also paused my goon shesh
how does your cock bleeding feel
the radar switching is the biggest pain in the ass dude
It’d be neat to see defyn’s controls/hotkey setup. It might sound like something as second nature as breathing or chatting up my sister but for total scrubs like myself it would definitely help get a picture of what to do with them (the controls, not my sister- again, second nature).
I also paused my goon sesh to be here within 10 minutes
Between the Aim7 randomly not working and the radar modes constantly switching, I just stopped carrying radar missiles (in F-16 I just take 6 Aim9) and it so much more enjoyable to play/less frustrating.
Bro’s a jelq maxxer 0:21
I don't know how I feel about this edging sesh define the fact that you had an asymetrical loadout with the 9H you triggered my OCD and I am now no longer gooning
Taken slightly aback by the intro but ok
If you made another video with the BF 109 F-4, I'd be happy. That last one is the best video from War Thunder I've ever seen. I watch him over and over again. It's true that I fly the F-4 and I'm trying to improve. I try to take as much as I can from your F-4 flying during your "pretty nasty session" :)
The idea that these top tier phantoms and the Mig23ML variants are the same br is hilarious.
I love the F4S. Yes its a brick with a really outdated airframe. What makes it special in my opinion is the armament and HMD. I think people underestimate how much of an advantage the HMD is at close to medium range, since you can use it to launch both IR and radar guided missiles.
F4J: „Am I a Joke to you?“
Defyn saying gooners made me BUST IMMEDIATELY, CLEANUP ON ISLE > MY PANTS
Another great vid. Is this worth getting now with the summer sale?
I suggest flying the g91y again, the BR change of this plane was literally the only good thing to come out of the update and it makes it a lot more enjoyable imo
Fly the Phantom without the gun. In real life, the F-4’s that had no gun built in usually never carried gunpods
I have done this and it is possible, even in the F-4C
@@HawkTheRedyou become more maneuverable and faster by removing it.
@@anguscovoflyer95 yep, and it means you can bring a external fuel tank, which is helpful because the F-4s are all thirsty buggers
On the off chance that someone knows, sometimes my F-4S will auto fire missiles within short range, less than a kilometer. Especially heat seekers. It will grab lock on its own and full-auto fire everything and I have NO clue why this happens.
ambussin
Did the MiG-23ML survive powercreep? It fights Aim-9Ms 9/10 games because F-15s are 12.3 for some reason.
I just got done flying it
And i honestly dont know what to think about it
it won’t warn others’ rwr with hmd mode, but it’s always a good habit to turn off your radar while not using it.
There was a flood in my goon cave recently so I have been having to cover up with a towel in the living room while my family watches TV until the repair man can fix my cave.
DEFYN: Bounce from target to target, clapping cheeks along the way.
Me: Get top downed by an F-14 in low earth orbit before I'm even in AIM-9 ranges
next: does the f104s asa premium one, still a viabiale pick? quick answer no.
good to see im not the only one getting these skallywag ahh lag spikes, i've noticed it happening after the update that dropper earlier last week
I just started getting into BVR jets and the key binds are still messing with me. It's just a whole aspect of the game that I've never even had to worry about before.
Which is why I don't understand why noobs jump from like 2.0 to a top tier premium and then complain about why the plane isn't doing all the killing for them. It's odd. Noobs never climb at 2.0, but the moment they buy a top tier jet, they just sit up at altitude being killed by radar missiles all day long. It doesn't make any sense.
Its easier to learn missile systems than it is to learn air combat 🥲
PD missiles should be able to track even if the lock is on the chaff but I do agree that switching lock to the mode before the lock breaks is kinda stupid
I remember when this used to be the pinnacle of top tier 😢
You mean when teams were 80% f4s with max bomb loadouts desperately trying to drop on the closest target (only to get yeeted by some mig23s)? Dark times brother.
@@viewer54322 so so true brother
Thank you!
I have learned a lot.
I now take meteors with the 86.
I am more patient and let them make the mistakes.
I came back to this game like 6 months ago and had to grind with the f4j it was pure pain cuz literally every plane you come against can rinse you easily. Cant run away cant dogfiht phantom is basically a glorifies bomber with missiles now.
I wont lie, I literally play it like it's a lower BR F15,
it sometimes wins the dogfight situations, but that especially relies on how stupid My opponent is.
Sparrows are very amazing as long as You just don't use them for BVR. (BVR shots will just go up or down into the ground 50% of all launches)
do not forget how easily Sparrows keep tracking people who You're chasing because of the PD mode.
the 9Hs are decently good, just shoot them from within 2Km to ensure they don't get flared so often.
i ain't canceling my goon shesh we multi tasking outta this one 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Is it just me or do his flares do more than mine
I just want it to practice having radar and radar missiles while I grind out of tier V. Sucks to hear the radar does whatever it wants, but I think it should still be useful
you very good play with this
I'm developing a parasocial relationship with the doof and this video really made reality hit me harder than if he insulted me.
Can you turn off the auto radar or no?
As someone who's played the ADTW way more than I'd like to admit, the gun is the main reason I would never buy the F-4S. My main problems with the ADTW were the lack of a PD radar, and 7Es, but I wouldn't trade the gun to fix those, even with the HMD. Plus, as I am stock grinding the F-15J right now (and I'm enjoying the stock grind wtf!), I would absolutely hate being uptiered to 12.3 in a Phantom.
Da frik is with all the "goons"?!
The only 11.3 premium that's bearable in an uptier is the MiG-23ML because for some unknown reason Gaijin still have the F-15 at 12.3 with some of the best performance in game AND 4 9Ms. Until the F-15 gets moved to 12.7 i'd just avoid any 11.3 that isnt a MiG-23 (F-5C is more fun anyawy lmao)
4:35 wow, you dodged the missile at that close of a distance. How?
My Japanese Premium F4 is doing good rocketing bases. Getting noobs Back to the hangar. Even sometimes I fire my useless radar missiles from time to time too. Stay low fly straight hit hard. Phantom phorever
Any tips for someone just getting launched on constantly by F14’s? Do I show up to the fight early? Burner in low?
Love how half the comments are about the phantoms then the other half is just
We are your gooners
Rise is the name of DEFYN
Can't wait for gaijin to add fox3 missiles at 12.7 and move the flanker down to 12.3 and make the 11.3 br suffer harder again (gaijin would 100% do this tho)
can you do a video for the best russian grinder too?
Mig23ML soon
f4s is a bit overplayed in my opinion, i would personally have 10.3 matches filled with f5c's (like how it was for a while) rather than 11.3 matches filles with f4s's that carrry 200 rockets for bombing bases
We are indeed your gooners
Survive the powercreep? The F-4S is part of the powercreep problem sitting at 11.3 despite having clear advantages over the other Phantoms for the longest time.
Hell, it still is an improvement over the F-4J.
This plane is a level one magnet
@creaty4864 meanwhile you look at the level 5 in your lobby with 3 kills and 137 deaths in the f4s lol
@@PluralCHimera0 Can't deny its one hell of a teacher though. Seeing how different jet is compared to props I think its a good start to top tier missle thunder since you'll be playing with a different gameplay and develop habits for those.
Idky but i like the f4s gun and in the vertical the f4s can deploy its massive ass flaps and either 9h snipe or trap a presurer into a 7f trap. Its very much a plane that fools people onto doubting it bc its a prem somtimes top tiers will over pressure f4s and end up losing a dogfight that was almost a garunteed win. Till they nerf the fuel consumption the ground pen for the gun or zunis i will still play it in arb and grb.
If you give a 9h a straight inertia driven path it can hit the same shots the 9l can
F5C has been rough with uptiers during prime time recently. Playind ruing the day on EU I am almost always playing at 10.3-10.7, but evening? Constant 11.3 and it's rough.
I'm more curious if the F-14 will survive the powercreep when it's no longer the only fox-3 fighter.
Can you please make a video on the 4.0 Ki-100 (tech tree one)? Still cant figure out how to fly the thing and whether I can use it as a worse turning/slightly-faster zero or play it BNZ like a J2M2 with its dick ripped off. The only videos I can find on TH-cam on the plane are over 5-6 years and the single video I could find in recent years has the guy saying he doesnt really know how to fly.
12:08 Orc down o7
Isn´t it usually better to run stealth belts?
As long as you have cracked aim yeah
I don't' know why, I cannot use the F-4S for the life of me but the Kurnass or Kurnass 2000? I fucking love flying. I don't get it, it's almost the exact same aircraft yet I cannot get a kill in one but the other two I regularly top the scoreboard...
i have ussr top tier and now i want to grind usa, do i get this or f5c ?
im leaning more towards this because im very bad with guns.. however when i was grinding 10.0 i always got killed by a f5c so idk..
tough one. honestly f5c FIRST, in my opinion ofc. it's more fun to fly and helped me get better at guns. plus has a crazy damage/flight model
I bought the F4s about a year ago, didnt realize I needed to swap my account from psn to pc. Ended up wasing 70$ for snal to tell me to get fucked.
Now, a year later, owning all of the u.s f4's, f14b, and f15, i dont really care anymore.
Working on the first f16 now.
Im sorry did you call us your gooners? lol
Someone bet me i wouldnt
So here we are lol
5:43 Noob question, I haven't played War Thunder for years, and never passed late WWII props, why does he roll the plane on his back when shooting a missile?
@DethOTheRedBaron Really? I was thinking it was some kind of top tier player missile optimization xD
9:54 9:54 you did what 🧐
hi
lovr your vids helpd me a TON of rage so yeh thnks
BTW can you do a vid on the lim-5p?
guys what are the best keybinds for ARB and radar (yes, ive been struggling for months with this issue)
Could you try the d4y2 from the japanese tech tree ? It´s very maneuverable, got decent speed and air to air rockets
im 3 months into war thunder and f 4 s is pretty good in my opnion i can bomb one base and get 1-2 kills which is nice im close to f 15 three planes away from rank 8
Def , i am your senior gooner
Yeah, yes it did, still my fav phantom to fly
Tbh f4s is underated ⁶ aim7f at 11.3 is banger fr
Hi defyn can you cover some 3.0-6.0 props? It’s been a very neglected br as of late but imo the most fun as well
radar knowledge just drippin
Welcome back my what now?
Dont know what it is but i cant use the F4 for shit. I know I'm not good at warthunder but i can get kills in literally any other jet. It just seems like the goodiest shit happens when im flying the F4S with any sort of booster on.
I absolutely HATE the automatic radar switching. I thought they broke missiles at first, but it took me a few games to realize they were switching off from HMD PD to fucking ACM or some shit.
Smooth brain change, I can’t understand why it’s not a toggle. They can’t be assed to put a real radar tutorial in for new players so they just decide to kneecap everyone equally
Also it fucks with EEGS which is the most annoying of all when you’re in a head on
It's plane to see you're flying a boat! :P
that MMM! cracked me up
I have used this to grind all my US tech tree lol
People kept talking about DEFYN. Im like who the hell is he since people kept talking about you so i looked and saw a few videos then the K/D and Jesus Christ it cannot get more positive than that. You and Bad Karma are just good at air. I was thinking about trying air realistic battles again for planes after 9 years and decided to look around for tips. Im a arcade player so i farm people easy there but its a different story in Realistic planes. I straight up need to understand about energy and some other stuff without getting picked off by a La, Yak, Ki, and Spitfires, since i main America flying bricks and the agile Germany...I think your the chosen one...well i was a arcade till i bought a jet and played jets only in realistic there as for planes, it’s different when i run into a Elite Commander, 1v1 Duelist or Unapproachable and a God Of War fuck that. But yeah i guess ill watch you now.
Thanks
Thank you 🫡
What about the British equivalent? Phantom FGR.2
They're good, the Skyflashes really do make the aircraft sing
1:04 servers be like
Would you pick up the F-4S over the F-20?
It would be better equi with magic 1
Yo what keybind is it to switch mode while locking? I dont think i have mine set up right and cant switch off PD mode when they attempt to notch.
If I dont care if I grind air Russian or air USA should I buy the mig 23ml or the F4S.
The f4s is a better grinder
The mig23ml is a better plane
Hey @DEFYN can you make a video on the CL13M6 please second time asking
Could you do a video on the mystere IVA?
i played a lot 11.7 BR and meet a loot of F-4S and they are just food.
would you recomend the AV 8A or is it just a VTOL meme thing
Is the mig21bis a good pickup when it goes on sale?
The lazur? I think it's ok as a grinder and 11.0 isnt as painful as it was
Video on it soon
@@DEFYN thanks, looking forwards to the video
can you make another video on the f-86f2 sabre day 23
Can you revisit the Italian Sagittario 2?
F4 is best premium grinder.. start. Kill 2 ppl with aim 7 bomb 2 bases die. Repeat. Got F14 f16c and f15 in 1 full day