As a Chemist/Silver refiner I have to say that there is absolutely nothing fundamentally flawed with the video. I think its fantastic to see someone showing how you don't need thousands of dollars on fancy glass ware and equipment to do REAL Chemistry. There is nothing wrong with mason jars and coffee filters. I do have one small comments but is by no means negative, merely informative. The grey powder there is most likely not silver chloride but rather silver powder. This is a good thing and easy to test, simply add some more nitric acid. If it dissolves then it is silver powder, if not then it is most likely silver chloride. I have to say kudos on suggesting that it is silver chloride. That is a fantastic demonstration of the chemistry thought process and you are absolutely correct that the formation of silver chloride is possible in this situation. The ONLY reason I think it is silver powder and not silver chloride is the color. Fresh silver chloride is very white, whiter than paper white and the powder looked really grey. Silver chloride can turn purple and/or grey but that takes time and sunlight and is only on the surface. If you have any Chemistry related questions feel free to reach out to me. I love to help people and I think you put together a great video here with a lot of potential.
thank you very much for the input! yeah I don't think it was silver or silver chloride any more. it was far to light (as in mass) to be silver in my opinion. also I did some research and found some info on recovering silver from the chloride involving adding sulfuric acid, iron, and then sucrose. the info was pretty vague so I had to wing it. there was no visible reaction other than the sulfuric acid dissolving the iron. I washed the powder and melted some down. I was left with some very dirty slag and a hard, brittle, grey, metallic bar with a very high melting temperature and a very large, visible grain structure. who knows that that is, maybe some ungodly iron alloy. the silver had been through a house fire and wasn't washed as well as it could have been so perhaps it was a little ash reacting with the nitric. who knows haha thanks again for the comment!
I have to agree here. I use Mason jars to create the silver chloride. Then that goes into 1000ml beaker for the addition of lye and sugar. I just feel safer using the borosilicate glass when dealing with the rapid temperature rise.
@@mcartandtool6580 Hey man I was hoping you could help with this. So I refined my sterling and the solution is liquid but the copper is not reacting with it to form the silver cement. Could you help me out here?
Then your 10th grade AP chemistry teacher was a complete moron. He messed up by not washing the silver to make sure there was no chlorine present, he didn't roll out the silver into thin strips that the acid could easily attack, and he should have a bucket to pour the copper heavy left-over solution into. Then he could just add some iron bars to that and the copper would cement out the same way the silver did. Not to mention the fact that this should be done in a proper environment with a proper heating plate and a fume extraction system. That way he wouldn't have to move around an acid solution that is in the middle of a reaction because he forgot to take it outside before he started! Edit: You want to see it done properly, go watch sreetips videos. There are still things he does wrong, but there are fewer issues with his work than this.
@@EastDallasKicks I just finish 5 yers in the navy on a submarine. I’ve got 3 kids and just started a new job. (I wasn’t in tenth grade I just still had contact with him) lol
Love this man it is amazing how it all works!! I’ve never had the privilege of owning any silver! Let alone a bar 😝 keep up the good work brother! Hope to be hearing from you soon!!
I think you did a pretty good job on this project. You first focused on the safety precautions and kept mentioning them throughout and then you kept your explanation pretty simple while still giving enough information for us to understand what's happening. Good job, just remember to weigh the extra next time. Maybe mention disposal for the waste chemicals.
Watch sreetips, he is much more informative and he will probably save you a ton of money because he tells you what he is using instead of buying the acids as acids from a vendor. Which FYI is way more expensive than just buying over the counter products that are the same things.
I just recently 2 days ago got into stacking and got you popped up on my recommendation. Very informative vid bro I subbed gonna be checking back in for more. I’d love a bar of silver that be freaking awesome!that is if you’re still doing the give away.
Thanks for the schooling of how to.. Now I just need to watch this how to video enough times to write all this new and exciting information I just learned..now make my shopping list of this I need to get the job done.. Where to find silver scraps to experiment on..I know grandma's silver wear set..no that will get me hurt by granny.. thanks looking forward to more of your videos.. New subscriber to your channel.. I learned something new..I believe everyone needs to learn something new every day.. keep your mind open makes you stronger.
What is done with the copper solution afterwards? Is the Nitric acid/Copper Solution " More Safe" after the copper is disolved? Or will it still burn your eyes out? Thanks! Awesome video.
hope you see this and have an answer to this question. did you keep track of cost to refine? not for molds and torches, those are reusable. but for the consumables. mainly the nitric acid and copper bars use
Chuck in an air line to bubble the solution around lightly it speeds up the process and exposes more molucules to the copper for transfer. also chuck in a small amount of sulfamic acid to denox the solution prior to puttingin your copper, this will ensure there is no dissolving of copper prior to transfer.
Wannabe silver scrapper. No idea what I'm doing so, kid gloves please.. Would I be able to get low grade silver platters from a thrift shop, somehow chop them up and refine them to 928 using this process??
thankyou very much for replying me I am your big big fan and love your work but i am could you please please give me some more information like 1 -:How much nitric acid is required for 1 kg silver alloy 2-: after adding nitric acid to silver how much time we need to heat the solution to end the reaction sir please answer my question
Good video. Nitric can be purchased online at Lab Alley for about half the price on eBay. I buy 10 L delivered to my door for about 200 to 210 in 67% technical grade and it works just fine when I refine silver. You should further refine the silver, as it is only about 97 to 98% pure. To test this just take some of the silver powder and dissolve it again, it will still turn the acid blue showing that there's copper still. Pure silver dissolved in Nitric will remain clear when dissolved. As one silver refiner to another great job on the video and your responses to other people's comments are great too.
Good ,dear chemist can you show us how to find purity of silver like silver alloy . Copper silver zinc ? Puriry how much in alloy contain silver ? Kindly
About four days, a lot of that is washing the copper nitrate out of the silver. some of the silver crystals are microscopic and take a long tome to settle out.
Just started my silver stack, and have been doing research into refining. The fact that you’re focused on safety, but with a sense of humour earns my like
You did good man! I love chemistry and I think your practices are good. I always wonder how this method compares with the silver chloride, sodium hydroxide, and sugar method of refinement. Is there any notable difference in purity? I think it's also good to mention silver staining on your skin. I usually get them when I randomly get a small amount of silver nitrate on my glove and then touch the outside of the beaker. Later during my cleaning step if I don't wear gloves then when I touch the outside of the beaker it transfers a small amount to my skin and then the sunlight finished the job turning the skin black.
Thanks! I’m not too familiar with other refining methods. For sure about the staining. Even getting the thought on your hands will leave a stain. I refine gold as well and I get it almost every time.
????????? Nitric acid can only get up to 68%% and where the fuck do you live where you can buy nitic acid on eBay!!!! Here you get 2 years for supplying it.
This made more sense than several 3x45 minute videos ive tried to watch, and the result was the same. I cant get 70% acid here, only 30% but will test this out on some silver and see how it goes. Thank you so much!
this is crazy because I did this in chemistry class in high school. We did a different metal, but we used a similar method with copper nitrate. This is awesome! Alot of it has to do with the protons and electrons in the silver and copper. It's so funny how that all works out .
Its fitting to play metal when you fire up the torches. Well done. Here's a filtering tip frens. To remove the possibility of the filter tearing open and pissing you off, use a funnel, but line the funnel with a nylon paint straining bag. Then put a coffee filter into that (so its a double layer). The nylon allows a wicking action for continuous flow and supports the paper filter so it won't break apart. Sometimes I filter into a plastic bucket. I make a lid for the bucket out of plastic or scrap wood and drill holes that I can squeeze the funnel into. I can often fit 3 or 4 funnels into one home made lid. The lid also keeps inquisitive bugs out, and dust. When a filter becomes clogged, it is easily swapped out.
Whats wrong with the red fumes I wouldn't recommend breathing it it can choke u up but it's not all that bad of a smell oh and it stains your skin yellow and or purple 😂 plus 400 dollars in oxygen
This is fun! My question is, where are you pulling all your scrap silver from. If you haven’t already made a video about that, it may be a neat video too!
Man your inspiring chemistry is a hobby of mine as well be nice if you went into the different channels a bit more but you did a good job on this video
Hey thanks! I enjoy chemistry but I use it as a tool when I need it to complete a project. That being said it’s not too often I do it. I would like to explore the chem world more but a guy can only have so many hobbies lol.
Hi, do you know if there is any way to recover the lost copper from the solution? Would be a much more profitable process if you could get the copper back.
@@mcartandtool6580 since posting that question I actually found a video with the answer. It's actually pretty easy, all you do is stick a bar of iron into the copper solution and the copper will react just as the silver did before.
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As a Chemist/Silver refiner I have to say that there is absolutely nothing fundamentally flawed with the video. I think its fantastic to see someone showing how you don't need thousands of dollars on fancy glass ware and equipment to do REAL Chemistry. There is nothing wrong with mason jars and coffee filters. I do have one small comments but is by no means negative, merely informative.
The grey powder there is most likely not silver chloride but rather silver powder. This is a good thing and easy to test, simply add some more nitric acid. If it dissolves then it is silver powder, if not then it is most likely silver chloride.
I have to say kudos on suggesting that it is silver chloride. That is a fantastic demonstration of the chemistry thought process and you are absolutely correct that the formation of silver chloride is possible in this situation. The ONLY reason I think it is silver powder and not silver chloride is the color. Fresh silver chloride is very white, whiter than paper white and the powder looked really grey. Silver chloride can turn purple and/or grey but that takes time and sunlight and is only on the surface.
If you have any Chemistry related questions feel free to reach out to me. I love to help people and I think you put together a great video here with a lot of potential.
thank you very much for the input! yeah I don't think it was silver or silver chloride any more. it was far to light (as in mass) to be silver in my opinion. also I did some research and found some info on recovering silver from the chloride involving adding sulfuric acid, iron, and then sucrose. the info was pretty vague so I had to wing it. there was no visible reaction other than the sulfuric acid dissolving the iron. I washed the powder and melted some down. I was left with some very dirty slag and a hard, brittle, grey, metallic bar with a very high melting temperature and a very large, visible grain structure. who knows that that is, maybe some ungodly iron alloy. the silver had been through a house fire and wasn't washed as well as it could have been so perhaps it was a little ash reacting with the nitric. who knows haha thanks again for the comment!
Where’s the bars ? Silver of course !
I have to agree here. I use Mason jars to create the silver chloride. Then that goes into 1000ml beaker for the addition of lye and sugar. I just feel safer using the borosilicate glass when dealing with the rapid temperature rise.
@@mcartandtool6580 Hey man I was hoping you could help with this. So I refined my sterling and the solution is liquid but the copper is not reacting with it to form the silver cement. Could you help me out here?
I would also like to know this as well @MC Art and Tool
10 out of 10. My 10th grade ap chemistry teacher said good job.
haha thats awesome!
Then your 10th grade AP chemistry teacher was a complete moron. He messed up by not washing the silver to make sure there was no chlorine present, he didn't roll out the silver into thin strips that the acid could easily attack, and he should have a bucket to pour the copper heavy left-over solution into. Then he could just add some iron bars to that and the copper would cement out the same way the silver did. Not to mention the fact that this should be done in a proper environment with a proper heating plate and a fume extraction system. That way he wouldn't have to move around an acid solution that is in the middle of a reaction because he forgot to take it outside before he started!
Edit: You want to see it done properly, go watch sreetips videos. There are still things he does wrong, but there are fewer issues with his work than this.
Where you at now bud? 12th?
@@EastDallasKicks I just finish 5 yers in the navy on a submarine. I’ve got 3 kids and just started a new job. (I wasn’t in tenth grade I just still had contact with him) lol
@@Strangeklown97 oh was just about to say congrats on graduating either now or soon 😂
Great learning now I can save my silver waste! Thank you
Love this man it is amazing how it all works!! I’ve never had the privilege of owning any silver! Let alone a bar 😝 keep up the good work brother! Hope to be hearing from you soon!!
Get a pyrex casserol dish to put under the beaker. If to tipped that over its GONE.
I think you did a pretty good job on this project. You first focused on the safety precautions and kept mentioning them throughout and then you kept your explanation pretty simple while still giving enough information for us to understand what's happening. Good job, just remember to weigh the extra next time. Maybe mention disposal for the waste chemicals.
appreciate the feed back, thanks!
the orange fumes is nitrogen dioxide.. not nitric oxide
Neat chemistry lesson. I've seen it but I don't get it. Hope mom doesn't need her pyrex dish back to make Christmas cheer!
believe it or not I bought my own pyrex!
@@mcartandtool6580 If I'm not one of the lucky ones to receive a bar. Can I buy one?
Isn’t that the truth !
Brother normal water will not work..??
I just started buying and salvaging precious metals. This video was super informative but simple to understand. 👍
Watch sreetips, he is much more informative and he will probably save you a ton of money because he tells you what he is using instead of buying the acids as acids from a vendor. Which FYI is way more expensive than just buying over the counter products that are the same things.
Just watched again🤣
I just recently 2 days ago got into stacking and got you popped up on my recommendation. Very informative vid bro I subbed gonna be checking back in for more. I’d love a bar of silver that be freaking awesome!that is if you’re still doing the give away.
How and when did you learn all this STUFF .?
Great job, I have 20lbs of silver which is 75% silver and 25% copper.
I’m doing my research to separate them, thank you👍
I love the pounds of silver look and making stuff with it !
You beautiful man you
pretty cool!
Nice. You can learn a little bit from streetips channel though.
Thanks for the schooling of how to..
Now I just need to watch this how to video enough times to write all this new and exciting information I just learned..now make my shopping list of this I need to get the job done..
Where to find silver scraps to experiment on..I know grandma's silver wear set..no that will get me hurt by granny.. thanks looking forward to more of your videos..
New subscriber to your channel..
I learned something new..I believe everyone needs to learn something new every day.. keep your mind open makes you stronger.
lol for sure! glad to have you aboard! I love learning, just not the kind you do in school unfortunately.
What is done with the copper solution afterwards? Is the Nitric acid/Copper Solution " More Safe" after the copper is disolved? Or will it still burn your eyes out?
Thanks! Awesome video.
Your mustache is filthy. I love it.
How long does the dissolving process take? Im on day 5. Am I babying it and doing it too slow?
I dig your "regular guy" approach... well done
thanks!
Actually thats not real pyrex, its a cheaper more fragile substitute, real pyrex glassware is going to be with capital letters PYREX
WHAT IS THAT SONG
The one that plays during the smelting.
I've heard that solo so many times before but i cant remember where.
hope you see this and have an answer to this question. did you keep track of cost to refine? not for molds and torches, those are reusable. but for the consumables. mainly the nitric acid and copper bars use
Chuck in an air line to bubble the solution around lightly it speeds up the process and exposes more molucules to the copper for transfer. also chuck in a small amount of sulfamic acid to denox the solution prior to puttingin your copper, this will ensure there is no dissolving of copper prior to transfer.
Wannabe silver scrapper. No idea what I'm doing so, kid gloves please.. Would I be able to get low grade silver platters from a thrift shop, somehow chop them up and refine them to 928 using this process??
thankyou very much for replying me I am your big big fan and love your work but i am could you please please give me some more information like
1 -:How much nitric acid is required for 1 kg silver alloy
2-: after adding nitric acid to silver how much time we need to heat the solution to end the reaction sir please answer my question
Looks fun im going to try this
Do it! Just be careful
Hey man. Why can I not just put the old silver jewelry in my foundry and melt and pour as I do CU, brass, AL. etc. ? I guess I don't understand.
it's a good effort to pour your own silver bars, better than I can do.
Mmmmm silver! 😋 Nice haul you have there. Thanks for sharing.
I've never done this yet only thing I seen could be done diff.is using distilled water no chlorine. Less contaminated Now I know.
Good video. Nitric can be purchased online at Lab Alley for about half the price on eBay. I buy 10 L delivered to my door for about 200 to 210 in 67% technical grade and it works just fine when I refine silver. You should further refine the silver, as it is only about 97 to 98% pure. To test this just take some of the silver powder and dissolve it again, it will still turn the acid blue showing that there's copper still. Pure silver dissolved in Nitric will remain clear when dissolved. As one silver refiner to another great job on the video and your responses to other people's comments are great too.
thanks for the input! next time I need nitric I'll check that site out.
New Sub keep up the good work
Good ,dear chemist can you show us how to find purity of silver like silver alloy .
Copper silver zinc ?
Puriry how much in alloy contain silver ?
Kindly
I've been watching the videos think I'm ready to give it a shot myself could you send me a list of everything I need and or what site to order from
Very enjoyable and informative without the usual shit talk.
2:24 did you kept pouring the solutions into the jar after putting water in it?
gloves are optional, some gloves are a no o, hope those were not nitrile😅
silvers up to 30 an ounce
ya got almost 700 bucks in silver there!
great job btw.
thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
Merry Christmas! Good job on the video. How long did the whole process take?
About four days, a lot of that is washing the copper nitrate out of the silver. some of the silver crystals are microscopic and take a long tome to settle out.
Dude you deserve more subscribers than you have, just subbed looking forward to seeing what else you do.👍
thank you!
Just started my silver stack, and have been doing research into refining. The fact that you’re focused on safety, but with a sense of humour earns my like
thank you!
YouGet a like because While you appreciate safety is important it's also good understand that it doesn't have to be dull.
U need more subscribers honestly I love ur videos
thanks! if you want to help, share my channel with anybody you think would enjoy it!
@@mcartandtool6580 sure will
You did good man! I love chemistry and I think your practices are good. I always wonder how this method compares with the silver chloride, sodium hydroxide, and sugar method of refinement. Is there any notable difference in purity? I think it's also good to mention silver staining on your skin. I usually get them when I randomly get a small amount of silver nitrate on my glove and then touch the outside of the beaker. Later during my cleaning step if I don't wear gloves then when I touch the outside of the beaker it transfers a small amount to my skin and then the sunlight finished the job turning the skin black.
Thanks! I’m not too familiar with other refining methods. For sure about the staining. Even getting the thought on your hands will leave a stain. I refine gold as well and I get it almost every time.
Dang, I'm a year late for the GAW...
I love your hat and mustache man, respect
thanks!
Is this the second coming of Cody's lab
lol maybe, but I'm not as smart as he is.
????????? Nitric acid can only get up to 68%% and where the fuck do you live where you can buy nitic acid on eBay!!!! Here you get 2 years for supplying it.
Same place you can buy a gun at the hardware store, Good old USA! Where are you at?
This made more sense than several 3x45 minute videos ive tried to watch, and the result was the same. I cant get 70% acid here, only 30% but will test this out on some silver and see how it goes. Thank you so much!
Glad I could help!
this is crazy because I did this in chemistry class in high school. We did a different metal, but we used a similar method with copper nitrate. This is awesome! Alot of it has to do with the protons and electrons in the silver and copper. It's so funny how that all works out .
The water you used probably had it
Yet again, another great video 👏🏼🙌🏼👌🏼
thanks!
Pyrex makes such q products.
I really enjoyed your video I just refined 3.4 pounds of scrap sterling I got 3.1 pound bar
Good job that’s awesome!
You've done a great job on this video you are so officiant and precise.
thank you!
I hope I’m not to late for your giveaway
Thank you so much for this, going to give it a go. Silvers bars dope! Any videos on gold?
Do you stamp your bars? This is cool as shit.
how pure is this silver ?
Really cool!
Thank you!
So cool thanks for the video
Why is silver refinery loss?
can i buy these from you????
Its fitting to play metal when you fire up the torches. Well done. Here's a filtering tip frens. To remove the possibility of the filter tearing open and pissing you off, use a funnel, but line the funnel with a nylon paint straining bag. Then put a coffee filter into that (so its a double layer). The nylon allows a wicking action for continuous flow and supports the paper filter so it won't break apart. Sometimes I filter into a plastic bucket. I make a lid for the bucket out of plastic or scrap wood and drill holes that I can squeeze the funnel into. I can often fit 3 or 4 funnels into one home made lid. The lid also keeps inquisitive bugs out, and dust. When a filter becomes clogged, it is easily swapped out.
Good stuff thanks!
Whats wrong with the red fumes I wouldn't recommend breathing it it can choke u up but it's not all that bad of a smell oh and it stains your skin yellow and or purple 😂 plus 400 dollars in oxygen
Yikes, did you take a whiff?
@mcartandtool6580 the only acid solution I'm scared of is platinum recovery
MC, watch sreetips if you want to learn more about silver/gold refining
Yeah I have seen a few of his videos
Great video!!! Free bars??
Inspired!🙏🏾❤
Wow , street tips makes that process look way to hard. This is good, it’s pure enough
Pure enough for me! Thanks!
2:14 I was just wondering if that was rice in your hot plate when you put the Pyrex dish full of solution on it.... Thank you
It was sand to help dissipate the heat
Thank you so much... Your video is very informative and very easy to follow...
Glad I could help!
This is fun!
My question is, where are you pulling all your scrap silver from. If you haven’t already made a video about that, it may be a neat video too!
Yard sales. You can get silver jewelry cheap
Would a butane torch take much longer? You rock, dude!
Thanks man! I have a small butane torch that doesn’t get hot enough.
Man your inspiring chemistry is a hobby of mine as well be nice if you went into the different channels a bit more but you did a good job on this video
Hey thanks! I enjoy chemistry but I use it as a tool when I need it to complete a project. That being said it’s not too often I do it. I would like to explore the chem world more but a guy can only have so many hobbies lol.
@@mcartandtool6580 right there with you keep up the good work
Do you sell the bars?
What kind of filter paper did you use? Thanks
Just whatever coffee filters I had laying around
fine, thanks Dear
thought why he had cocaine from cayo perico in the thumbnail
lol
Liked the hat . lol
updates please.
I use that same pyrex cup for a beaker for my own refining nice seeing all those bars did you get the gold out too?
I did! I will refine the gold in a future video
How many liters you did this subject by ?
I mean nitric acid
good one!
Entertaining... AND educational!
Thanks!
How exactly pure are they? that's awesome dude
98 or better from what I have researched. I don’t have the means to test it. Thanks bro!
Hej What can i use if i cant get nitric acid ? THANX
I would imagine streetips would have a video on that, he knows a lot more than I do
I want one
A#1
Hi, do you know if there is any way to recover the lost copper from the solution? Would be a much more profitable process if you could get the copper back.
I believe there is but from what I have heard the process is long and not worth the copper you get back. I don’t know too much about it though.
@@mcartandtool6580 since posting that question I actually found a video with the answer. It's actually pretty easy, all you do is stick a bar of iron into the copper solution and the copper will react just as the silver did before.
Nice! That doesn’t sound to bad
Sick bruh
Cool
Cool dude
Good job
good vid! good humor too!
Thanks!
u a god
Hi
and add acid to the water, not water to the acid.
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Lol, glarses