What you said at the end about wanting Anne to have more fire in the trial in Wolf Hall cos of who she was as a person (and also cos historically we know she defended herself so well people present were in doubt of her guilt), it brings to mind the trial in Anne of the Thousand Days with Geneviève Bujold as Anne giving it ALL that fire. Of course it's not a historically accurate scene, but it is just so satisfying to watch and hear her have her say. I can't remember it as well since I haven't watched it as much as AOTTD, but I'm pretty sure Dorothy Tutin's Anne in the 1970's series Six Wives of Henry VIII defended herself really strongly as well. One of the things that irks me somewhat about Wolf Hall is how during Anne's arrest and trial she's suddenly muzzled. Thanks for your reaction and perspective.
Currently reading your book Thorns, lust & Glory for the third time!! 🧡 The scene is brilliant but there are things that are wrong, like you say. If, as you said, Thomas Cromwell didn't ask the questions, who do you think did? Many thanks for your videos - love them!! 🧡
Thank you so much!! It's the best compliment ever. I am not sure as I can't remember on top of my head if it's specified in the sources. But thank you again. I'm so happy you're here. You're the best.
Nice analysis. When I watched the scene 1st time I didn't like the "did you gave them money" part, the show writers & Mantel presented it as "Ahhh we got you here, Anne, this proves you're guilty", but in fact, Anne Boleyn defended her innocence in a brave & intelligent way, that's what the records say, right? But we the ones that read Mantel's book know she was really unkind to Anne, stripping her of almost all of her good qualities and strengths. 😠 Well, an author has every right to change facts, this is fiction, not a documentary, right? 🤷🏻♂️ (Poor Anne, BTW)
@ yeah, that makes sense. If Anne had a right to a lawyer, which she wasn’t, she might have kept her head but in the 16th century, it was kinda set up that you should have no chance for defense and you were likely screwed no matter what you said
@michellecrocker2485 well, who would go against Henry's wishes? I believe the lord mayor of London, brave man that he was, stated publicly after the trial that: "I could observe nothing in the proceedings against her, but that they were resolved to make an occasion to get rid of her!"
There was no such thing at the time and especially not for a woman. Even Cranmer said he didn’t believe she was guilty but when Henry more or less asked him to repeat it he backed down. Anne had to go. The trial was 1/ for a show 2/ to scare her 3/ to decide how she would die (being burned or beheaded.)
The travel time from Calais to London in those days was about three days. Obviously the executioner had already been ordered at the time of the trial.
What you said at the end about wanting Anne to have more fire in the trial in Wolf Hall cos of who she was as a person (and also cos historically we know she defended herself so well people present were in doubt of her guilt), it brings to mind the trial in Anne of the Thousand Days with Geneviève Bujold as Anne giving it ALL that fire. Of course it's not a historically accurate scene, but it is just so satisfying to watch and hear her have her say. I can't remember it as well since I haven't watched it as much as AOTTD, but I'm pretty sure Dorothy Tutin's Anne in the 1970's series Six Wives of Henry VIII defended herself really strongly as well. One of the things that irks me somewhat about Wolf Hall is how during Anne's arrest and trial she's suddenly muzzled. Thanks for your reaction and perspective.
It's such a powerful scene, with great acting, so it's encouraging that majority is true to the historical records!
Excellent analysis. Can’t wait to watch Wolf Hall when it airs in the US! ❤
Then you can watch both series. 😊
Currently reading your book Thorns, lust & Glory for the third time!! 🧡
The scene is brilliant but there are things that are wrong, like you say.
If, as you said, Thomas Cromwell didn't ask the questions, who do you think did?
Many thanks for your videos - love them!! 🧡
Thank you so much!! It's the best compliment ever. I am not sure as I can't remember on top of my head if it's specified in the sources. But thank you again. I'm so happy you're here. You're the best.
Nice analysis. When I watched the scene 1st time I didn't like the "did you gave them money" part, the show writers & Mantel presented it as "Ahhh we got you here, Anne, this proves you're guilty", but in fact, Anne Boleyn defended her innocence in a brave & intelligent way, that's what the records say, right? But we the ones that read Mantel's book know she was really unkind to Anne, stripping her of almost all of her good qualities and strengths. 😠 Well, an author has every right to change facts, this is fiction, not a documentary, right? 🤷🏻♂️ (Poor Anne, BTW)
What I don’t get is why give her a trial if she wasn’t going to have a fair one? The odds were against her from the start
That's not what trials were for in the 16th century. You went to trial to confirm your guilt, not to debate it.
@ yeah, that makes sense. If Anne had a right to a lawyer, which she wasn’t, she might have kept her head but in the 16th century, it was kinda set up that you should have no chance for defense and you were likely screwed no matter what you said
@michellecrocker2485 well, who would go against Henry's wishes? I believe the lord mayor of London, brave man that he was, stated publicly after the trial that: "I could observe nothing in the proceedings against her, but that they were resolved to make an occasion to get rid of her!"
@ exactly, even if she had been allowed a defense attorney, who would take her case?
There was no such thing at the time and especially not for a woman. Even Cranmer said he didn’t believe she was guilty but when Henry more or less asked him to repeat it he backed down. Anne had to go. The trial was 1/ for a show 2/ to scare her 3/ to decide how she would die (being burned or beheaded.)
😿Sir Christopher Hales put the main accusatory questions to Anne Boleyn at trial,not Thomas Cromwell .( L and P).
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it's weird because I have used my big microphone and increased the sound.