I'm finding Frieda Vizel's videos fascinating, and this one too. It's the first time I've understood the question of zionism and anti-zionism among Jews. Thank you!
Oh my I can’t say it enough so much thought producing content. Thank you. I feel like my eyes and brain have been opened to learning more about history and how people can think/feel/be adamant about an issue. I must say you my dear have so much respect for everyone and are so NOT judgmental.
Thank you for this delightful interview! I am so glad to have heard Frieda interviewed . She is such a humble, kind and informative lady. I love her podcasts.
I enjoyed this interview. I’ve watched Frieda for a long time but now I have a new person to watch. Loved the questions and honest answers. I am not Jewish but have always been drawn to this type of discussion. I love to learn these things and open my mind.
Frieda. I think that it is lovely the way you talk with such loving kindness about the Satmar Community. We learn so much from you. Good Shabbos. Thank You. Bill. Uk
Frieda thank you for such an informative interview. Doran very patiently drew out such a lot of great information about you and zionism giving me a greater understanding
Absolutely intelligent TH-camrs, both very well educated. I do how ever believe he misunderstood when she said the longevity of her cutting her hair. It’s only once they get married. He asked her why was it problematic if she’s been doing it all her life but that’s not in fact what she had said. This was great, thank you! I get what she means when you feel something in another country you’ve never been, I think there’s a beauty from your soul to see where your people came from, breath the air there, the culture ect.
I hadn’t heard of your guest prior to seeing her here. I have a great deal of respect for her stance: so many people who leave the community of their childhood express so much antipathy towards it, even decades afterwards. She’s managed to leave the Satmars, but maintains a balanced and, honestly, respectful view of Satmars individually and as a whole.
It is what I love so much about Frida. If you are ever in NYC she gives a tour of Hasidic Satmar Williamsburg that is wonderful. She is so respectful of the community and it really is like attending a college lecture on a subject she clearly knowns intimately.
Great discussion. Thank you both for sharing! I follow Frieda on here and watch all of her videos. I love to hear more about her personal story which she doesn't discuss much on her own channel.
Thank you for this interview. How did the Rabbi explain all the atrocities that happened to the jewish people (the inqusition, the pogroms, etc.) way before zionism was born?
Such an interesting woman with such an interesting story, and the way she puts it is so clear and simple and precise, that it really helps understanding what growing up this way is like. A lot of my misunderstandings regarding the ultra-orthodox communities has been cleared up in this video. Thank you Doran and thanks Frieda!
That was very interesting. Thank you for allowing us to hear this conversation. The Hassidic Judaism history is very interesting especially when contrasted with what the torah/Tanakh says vs what the Talmud or "rabbis" say. (and yes I read the Tanakh, I also read it with Rashi commentaries, and a number of tractates of the Babylonian Talmud.)
Thank you for sharing this insightful video; I found it incredibly engaging. While I resonate with many of Frieda's perspectives, there is one significant point where our views diverge: I do not believe that Hasidim are genuinely anti-Zionist. I recognize that this claim edges toward the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. However, I think this distinction is critical, particularly because many anti-Zionists exploit the claim that Hasidim are anti-Zionist to shield their own anti-Semitism. Before diving into this argument, I think it’s essential to provide some personal context. Like Frieda, I was raised in a Hasidic community-specifically within the Skverer sect based in New Square. The Skverer Hasidim, while distinct from more overtly anti-Zionist groups like Satmar, still maintain a cautious distance from modern political Zionism (interestingly, Skverer Hasidim view their own enclave as a spiritual extension of the Holy Land). Growing up immersed in this culture and belief system, I have a nuanced perspective on how Hasidic communities navigate their relationship with Zionism. Zionism, A Framework for Analysis: To unpack this issue, I believe it’s important to define Zionism clearly. At its core, Zionism is rooted in three foundational claims: 1. The Jewish people are a distinct people with a shared history, culture, tradition, and a strong sense of spiritual and historical continuity spanning over two millennia. 2. The Jewish people have an inherent right to self-determination, as do all nations. This right is especially pressing given the Jewish experience of persecution, displacement, and systemic oppression. It entails the ability to establish a political and social framework that ensures their survival, continuity, and prosperity. 3. The Jewish people's ancestral homeland is the most appropriate place for their state. This land is imbued with profound historical, religious, and cultural significance and serves as the natural locus for Jewish self-determination. To genuinely oppose Zionism, one must reject at least one of these pillars. The question, then, is: which of these claims do Hasidic communities reject? The Hasidic Perspective on Zionism's Tenets: The Jewish people as a distinct nation: Hasidic communities emphatically affirm this tenet. Their religious life, identity, and traditions are steeped in the idea of an unbroken lineage and a shared collective destiny. Their very existence is a testament to the Jewish people's enduring uniqueness. The right to self-determination: Far from denying this, Hasidim uphold the need for Jewish survival and collective autonomy. Their approach often emphasizes spiritual and communal self-determination rather than reliance on secular political structures. However, this does not negate their belief in the legitimacy of Jewish self-preservation and autonomy. The Jewish homeland as Israel: On this point, Hasidim are deeply aligned with Zionism's foundational premise. The Land of Israel occupies a central place in their prayers, religious observances, and cultural consciousness. They unequivocally view it as the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people. What Hasidim Oppose: The distinction lies not in rejecting Zionism’s core premises but in contesting two related but separate movements: The premature implementation of Zionism: Hasidim, particularly Satmar and other similar groups, reject the establishment of a Jewish state before the arrival of the Messiah. This belief is rooted in a theological promise made by Jewish forefathers after the destruction of the Second Temple, which forbade reclaiming the land by force. In their view, the modern State of Israel represents a violation of this divine covenant, and they see its establishment as a transgression rather than a fulfillment of Jewish destiny. The "New Jew" ideology: Introduced during the early Zionist Congresses, this concept aimed to create a modern Jewish identity distinct from traditional religious frameworks. The "New Jew" was envisioned as secular, self-reliant, and militarily capable, rejecting what some early Zionists saw as the passivity and religiosity of Diaspora Jews. To Hasidim, this ideology represents an existential threat to the continuity of traditional Jewish life. They reject both the theological implications of a pre-Messianic state and the cultural shift represented by the "New Jew" ideal. In their minds, the two are deeply interconnected. Hasidim and Anti-Zionism, a Conclusion: To label Hasidim as anti-Zionist is an oversimplification that conflates their theological objections with political opposition. They do not dispute the legitimacy of the Jewish people's historical claims, the need for self-determination, or the centrality of the Land of Israel. Instead, their criticisms are rooted in theological and cultural concerns, which they see as inextricably linked. By making this distinction, I hope to illuminate why Hasidic perspectives on Zionism cannot be easily categorized as "anti-Zionist." Doing so risks misrepresenting their beliefs and, worse, enabling anti-Semitic rhetoric that misuses Hasidic positions to delegitimize the Jewish people’s right to self-determination. This is why clarity on this issue is so crucial.
Very good points. Thanks so much for taking the time to share this. I do agree, especially now with anti-zionism having come to mean a disagreement that Jews have a historical right to the land.
Thank you. Such a clear explanation. Chabad stands a bit aside from most Hasidic sects in its stance on the state of Israel and maybe even on Zionism. "Wherever I go, I am going to the Land of Israel", this quote is attributed to Rebbe Nachman of Breslov. I still have no time to ask Breslov folks whether the rabbi said that and if he did in what context. I strongly dislike Netuei Karta, this marginal tokenized sect, but come on, even they are sort of Messianic Zionists😃.
Zionists claiming that Torah Jews are not fundamentally different from them are like Christians claiming to have the same beliefs as Judaism but only "the messiah already came".
A really good summary. I think you only forgot to include that Herzl came up with Zionism as a reaction to modern Central European race based antisemitism which ruled out all options for Jews to survive as a minority in Europe or give up being Jewish (he seriously considered mass conversion to Christianity at some point but dismissed the idea after understanding that antisemitism sees being Jewish as an unchangable fact) so he wanted to normalise the Jewish people by giving them a state of their own to become just another nation among all others. That’s probably also a reason who insular Hasidic groups are critical of Zionism because they have no interest in integrating into a bigger framework or becoming normal, they stress that they are a nation apart and have no interest in concepts that are seen as modern or goyish like modern nationalism or communities that don’t align with their beliefs like broader Jewish non-orthodox society
I am a big fan of Frieda Vizel and her YT channel. She is a deep thinker and has a way of expressing herself with precision and nuance and honesty that I deeply appreciate. But who is this person that runs the YT channel "The Easy Way"? Lots of very good questions asked and good points made here. Subscribed. Sometimes the YT algorithm gets it right.
Thank you for having Frieda on your channel. While I know Frieda only from online, I consider her a friend. I look at her, as that she's on a journey, a path. Maybe for that reason, I like to see her ask questions, and be critical, yet seeking her own way. I'm glad you asked her about Israel. But, I don't see that she gave you any deeper of an answer than she did me. In ways, I don't think she's ready to define her feelings, her thoughts...yet. And that's fine, it's perfectly normal. Ps. I see you've had Preston on too. I'll have to watch that one also. _(Sometimes I agree with him. Other times; I feel that he's thinking too American, not out of the box, not critical enough. But, he does have his head in the right place.)_
Frieda reminds me very much of a friend of mine who was a Catholic nun for 35 years from age 17 before she left the order and married a priest she had known for many years. She didn't leave behind her Catholic beliefs but was shunned by many of her extended family and home town after she left the religious order. She had many good years with the love of her life until his death and now lives alone in a village where she has many close friends. Life presents us all with choices. We need to do what is best for us and be willing to leave behind anything which restricts us.
@Frieda Vizel As a very new, yet very dedicated subscriber of your channel, I had no idea of the disparaging comments on your video presentations. How shameful and cruel- however, it occurred to me that these could be fake accounts made to “spam” the comments section. I’ve heard of that before. I’m so glad these haven’t discouraged you from creating content, as I am so enjoying working my way through your videos and looking forward to more. Thank you both for such an interesting conversation! Much love and appreciation.❤ 😊
Great interview. Thank you. I understand why some religious Jews were leery of Zionism. Not only was it originally a secular movement, but it was also encouraged by many antisemitics whose main motivation was that they did not want to give Jewish refugees a home in their own countries. I'd have been cautious.
Hi Frieda. Loving your interview. Gives me a new insight to you. I guess this will be more conversation for our future shmooze over coffee or tea. (Probably evolving into dinner at this point! 🤣) Your primal reaction to the singing of Hatikvah is because your soul connects to those who actually carried the burden. There is a famous story about the first Shabbos Kodesh for the Jewish survivors of the Bergen-Belson camp after the British soldiers liberated them from the Nazis. The Allied soldiers allowed them to celebrate their first Shabbos in freedom and during the making of Kiddush, they Jewish survivors spontaneously broke out singing HaTikvah. It was recorded at the time. Every time I hear it, the tears flow and my heart fills with love. Here is a link: th-cam.com/video/TWOkML4A8sU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ujoIWRIx3TuNBILe
I really appreciate your thoughtfulness with regard to everything you consider. I understand your distaste (I don't know what the proper term would be because this isn't strong enough) for shaving your head. People do not understand why some of us have such a problem with masks. They think what's the big deal? But for me, it is the hill I am ready to die on. It steals a person's humanity, their freedom, their "self", and soul. It is not possible to overstate what it means to me, and I just can not do it. I would be the same if I were told that I had to shave my head. If I chose to shave my head, that would be a different story. But if I were expected to, or told that I had to, I would not be able to do it. I hope that you understand the similarity. I do.
I liked it, I'd want you to ask more questions that could compare the Israeli Hasidic life and the American, maybe on the economic aspect like in Israel the government funds religious studies and usually men don't work. how is it in America.
I can give you simple example. I’m Hasidic woman who is married on Sephardic men. His family lives in Israel. And his relatives don’t accept me. Because they think, that I’m like Israeli Hasidic ))))) I’m not familiar with Israeli Hasidic. But here in New York we working hard. I have Master degree of Engineering (nuclear), and I know 3 different European languages. I’m familiar with modern art, it’s my hobby. But my husband’s relatives has different vision about who I’m. And it’s funny for us )))
I am a Christian, I love the Jewish people, and I also get very touched hearing and singing HaTikvah. G*d has by no means forgotten Israel, or the promises to His people. He will fulfill everything when Mashiach returns.
I adore Friedas content is informative, eloquent, educated, it’s a wonder and wonderful to listen and watch. I love educating myself and she gives the sort of content I think educates me and people in general incredibly well!
I actually read an interview of the yeminte person who had the honor to hang Eichman ימח שמו. He said in his interviews that when he boarded the airplane he really thought he's boarding the eagle that will take him to the bais hamikdash.
28:25 fyi this is not a hassidic teaching per se. This is quoted from a combination of several midrashim which list the merit of the Israelites to be redeemed. There are many listed but avoiding assimilation is listed in the mechilta which is over 2000 years old (compile in mishnaic times). Well before the start of hasidism in the late 1700. The fact that satmer may have picked this one to focus on above other reasons may be telling but it's not an original read.
Wow I'm a big fan and follower of both of you for a long time I'm so surprised, I would never have imagined that I would find you meeting together thanks !!
thank you again for all your wisdom and sharing your honest views from all your experience its very valuable for all of us.wasnt it "david green" who said?..."you put 10 jews in a room?and you get 11 opinions"... i am a rabid anti zionist non relig eastern European jews from nyc what is happening there in the name of zionism is genocide ok? im a bundist torah socialitz
In terms of her father laughing at a question about God's gift of Israel, this was a lesson that a person laughs at a question when they don't have a good answer.
Those ppl who write such rubbish, are trolls. They're only there to bully & terrorize. They probably don't even listen to the entire vid. Those who see them must comment & shame them! They think they're many & big, & we are few & small. They need a wake-up call! Womderful interview, thank u both!
Frieda, l am now an American evangelical Christian and l resonate with you and your innate connection to lsrael and their national anthem. Tears come to my eyes whenever l hear it. I grew up in Nassau on Long Island. Most of my best friends were Jewish girls. I always appreciated the warmth and acceptance l experienced within their families. It is only as l have grown older and bc a committed follower of Yashua that l really come to comprehend all that the Jewish people and lsrael have and continue to go through. I am saddened to hear of the negative antisemitic comments left on your channel. I am glad that you seem to have removed them bc l have never noticed them there. The hard core naysayers are sad, indoctrinated, blinded sheep. I recently met a pleasant women at work who had been born in Morocco. When l mentioned the horrific eventsof October 7th in conversation, she quickly denied the validity of it and added that the Holocaust was complete fiction, too. I was gob smacked. I have personally met survivors with numerical wrist tattoos and listened to their personal survival testimonies. I read proudly , Corrie Ten Boom’s book, The Hiding Place and so many more verifiable, substantive facts. In that moment, the air was sucked out of that small work room. Fortunately, there were 2 other Black Christian co workers who calmly but firmly jumped into the conversation. It did not take long for all of us to decide that enlightenment to that darkened mind was not possible at that moment in time. This scenario reminds me of your “comments” situation and one other. I have noticed several times where people on public platforms refuse to name the names of perps bc they desire to deprive them of notoriety. I think that you may have decided a similar stance and l want to applaud you for your wisdom and sensitivity in the face of ignorant racism.💜🕊️
46:00 we, Jews from so many different backgrounds are all different and all the same derp inside simultaneously. I am Soviet Jew (mizrachi roots) brought up with strong atheist communistic propaganda (people who believed into anything besides communism were ridiculed as unintelligent/shallow), have goosebumps listening to Hatikvah, Yerushalaim Shel Zahav, Shema Israel by Sarit Haddad… My American daughter, also not much observant, but has a very deep connection to being a Jew, participates in clubs, enjoyed Birthright, etc. She sang Yerushalaim at her Bat Mitzvah (in my profile) , then several years later, comes October 7, and she and her friends were so lost and feeling powerless.. next day she recorded Hatikvah, and I still have goosebumps listening to it in anyone’s voice. th-cam.com/video/5xoxn_3gN8c/w-d-xo.html
2nd comment: The connection of being Jewish is cultural but more importantly that the Jews are God’s chosen people! Frieda-you are so eloquent, deep, and thoughtful. You said that you were not a good student, but you are a bright adult. Keep searching, reading, researching. You belong to God. Praise Him! ❤
I find it so interesting that there’s the orthodox belief Jews shouldn’t live in Israel until the messiah returns, and on the flip side, another orthodox belief that messiah will only return when all the Jews are in the land. I wonder how they consolidate these polar perspectives..
Is it true that it is an Orthodox Jewish opinion that the Messiah will come when all the Jews are in Israel? Perhaps. Judaism has many opinions. But I have always heard that the ingathering of the exiles קבוץ גליות will be the beginning of the time of the the Messiah and not a prerequisite.
Thank you Frieda for explaining that. That lovely Satmar people (and I am by no means Satmar) that hold the opinions they hold from a religious perspective would never align themselves with anyone evil that would hurt any Jew. The Satmar Rav, they say, was broken when he heard Jewish soldiers were killed even though he didn't agree with their beliefs. Neturei karta is beyond fringe......a couple of dozen crazy people that are UNWELCOME in any Jewish community.
I’ve known of this faction since my first visit to Mea Sharim. Rather appropriate, isn’t it? Let me share what else life in Israel has taught me . . . A tour in Lebanon really clarified things. There, every village has its’ own religious leader, and every such leader is careful to find some tiny difference between his “correct” understanding and the “errors” of his counterpart in the village down the road. I saw that a lot of what we think of as “theology” and “tradition” were but artificial creations designed simply to protect the local leader and his claim to power. The better I came to understand the more “devout” groups, the harder it became for me to separate them from the Iranian Mullahs. The more “devout,” the less tolerance for independence, creativity, and variation. The more devout, the more autocratic were those in leadership roles. Small wonder the early Zionists were eager to leave the Pale, to distance themselves from Talmud and instead embrace Josephus. Perhaps it is this yearning for knowledge, this need to think freely, that has driven Jews of all stripes to excel in the more intellectual professions. Perhaps the desire to free yourself from dependence on the Rebbe is what motivates Jews in their drive for financial independence.
Frieda- I would love it if you could talk more about what happens when a couple gets divorced, one leaves the community, and they have a child together. No need to describe the personal details of your situation, but in general terms, do couples share custody? Does the parent without custody get visitation? If so, how do the parents explain to the child(ren) the differences in lifestyle and worldviews, especially if the person who leaves decides on a very secular worldview/lifestyle? Is it possible? What if the person goes to a more "liberal" Jewish sect, would that be easier to co-parent? And if there is a divorce, can the person who remains in the community get remarried? Thanks!
BTW before Hassidism, Jews wore what the people in their area wore (as is "required" by the Rabbis.) however later, after Hassidism became popular due to their "off" dress, more and more "Lithuanian" Jews began to wear the "penguin" suit (and assimilate stories of Miracle working Rabbis.) Saadia Gaon is rolling in his grave.
This is the thinking: Hebrew is Lushen Koydesh (Holy Tongue). It is the sacred language of the Torah. How dare Jews who don't keep the Torah debase the language for everyday use, invent swear words, and bring it down to the gutter.
@stephenfisher3721 Thank you for explaining to me. I understand. It sounds like similar thinking to why we don't type G-d and only use name in certain situations. Thanks
Satmar needs to learn the Prophets which clearly say that Jews will return to Israel before the Messiah comes. I wonder if modern Israel was founded by religious Jews, would they still oppose it.
I disagree with your analysis that the majority of people only come to Frieda’s channel to criticise Zionists. I am not Jewish but interested in Friedas content and her warmth towards humanity and understanding. I also advocate for Palestinians to live in their land without apartheid oppression and genocide.
There are definitely cult like qualities to Hasidic Judaism. At least certain sects. The Satmars are amongst the most insular and conservative whereas the Lubovitch accept Israel and do outreach to less observant Jews (like Chabad Houses at colleges and universities all over the US). But while the Lubovitch are seeking to increase their following, they do not do so by proselytizing. The Satmars definitely veer toward cultlike qualities. They're also very happy to exploit the American welfare system.
It's equally as valid to make the argument that events like the inquisition and holocaust happened because Jews rejected going back to Israel, a gift from God, and this was the result. Much of the arguments made against, reminds me of the allegory of the row boat. If God sends you a boat, you actually have to take it.
you should interview rabbi yaakov shapiro about religious antizionism. and if you want the neturei karta perspective, rabbi yisroel dovid weiss is the man!
First political Zionist was Rabbi Alkalai whose program was copied by Hertzl. Hertz's grandfather was a follower of Rabbi Alkalai. Alkalai said (in 1840) that the Jews have 100 years to recreate the Jewish state, otherwise the Jewish state would rise but under worse condition. "Ultra" religious Jews who opposed Zionism opposed any group that was different, or was not Rabbinical...(even though they also opposed other rabinical groups... in other words, it was all power struggle.)
The people who pushed you out because of humra? possibly not even Humra, but crazy customs were extremely misguided and frankly wrong.. Hair shaving isnt in the shulhan aruch!!!!
I love her very much. She is very honest. Every secular Israeli needs to see her content. Also, I have a slight problem with a Jew who knows Greek philosophy, but knows nothing about Jewish thought. There is something so inauthentic and ignorant about it. Sorry, if offensive, but Jews, whether you believe or not, learn your heritage.
Greek philosophy is not as distinct from Jewish thought as you might suggest. Maimonides, considered one of the greatest Jewish philosophers of all time, was greatly influenced by reading the works of Aristotle.
@ I’m not saying that it’s very different, it’s bigger, though, but it’s ironic that you mentioned Aristotle. Wasn’t he the one traveling with Alexander the Great and asking to look at Solomon’s library? It is very interesting to me that somehow when people started getting patents for their inventions, Jews, all of a sudden, became great inventors, yet, before that, it was all Greeks and Romans and such. It was the Jews who were influenced by the Greek philosophy, it wasn’t the other way around. Has anyone ever thought that, maybe Greek philosophers were greatly influenced by the Jews of that era?
@@hpyrkh3 There's no good evidence to suggest that Greek philosophers were influenced by Jews. Is it theoretically possible? yes Is it probable? no: - Languages barriers - Geographic and cultural isolation
“ interesting” that the Jews that went to Israel to live , hence breaking the promise , survived and the Jews who stayed in Romania , Hungary et Al were the Jews who were punished and murdered. Kind of like your neighbor breaks the law, but you are the one who gets arrested for their crime.
That is an interesting perspective especially when you take in the account that the satmar rebbe went to Palestine at the last minute when the nazis were closing in and left most of the Jews of his sect to die, saving himself in the process. But still was anti Zionist which in my opinion can be seen as hypocritical or just plain ignorant.
What the Samar/Neturei karta/anti-Zionist group says and what their origin was is very different. Alkalai organized an Aliyah group in 1840s to return to the land of Israel and recreate a state. The opposition to the "vote" was an opposition to allow women (gvauld) to vote in the Jewish Agency (until Agudas realized they would get more representation) and it was only after the death of Ha Rev Kook that Neturei Karat raised its head, but they claim it was because the assassination of De Haas. And the concept was to have "the party" separate from the "other" be it the guy on the other side of the street, or because they eat Kitniyot (which is allowed!!!)
I'm finding Frieda Vizel's videos fascinating, and this one too. It's the first time I've understood the question of zionism and anti-zionism among Jews. Thank you!
Oh my I can’t say it enough so much thought producing content. Thank you. I feel like my eyes and brain have been opened to learning more about history and how people can think/feel/be adamant about an issue. I must say you my dear have so much respect for everyone and are so NOT judgmental.
Thank you for this delightful interview! I am so glad to have heard Frieda interviewed . She is such a humble, kind and informative lady. I love her podcasts.
The vast majority of those slaughtered by Hitler spoke Yiddish, the most sacred of all languages.
The vast majority of those slaughtered by Hitler spoke Yiddish, the most sacred of all languages.
Why do people think Zionists are the only people who have a right to a ethno-nationalist state? No people's have such a right. Period!
Frieda amazes me time and time again. What a beautiful woman
I love Frieda’s videos and always thought I wish I could hear her interview herself. You did a great job, my only wish is this was an hour longer!
What a terrific interview ! I always learn so much, Thank you ! I always look forward to all your videos. Have a great day
Thank you! You too!
Joe my friend, thanks for your words!
Frieda’s yiddishkeit and soul shining thru! Thank you.
Frida is such a sweet and generous person, and I adore her and her channel.
I enjoyed this interview. I’ve watched Frieda for a long time but now I have a new person to watch. Loved the questions and honest answers. I am not Jewish but have always been drawn to this type of discussion. I love to learn these things and open my mind.
Greetings to Frieda!
Great to watch this video.
Definitely the most personal and intense video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Frieda. I think that it is lovely the way you talk with such loving kindness about the Satmar Community. We learn so much from you. Good Shabbos. Thank You. Bill. Uk
I watch Freida‘s videos all the time. It is so wonderful to hear such a different perspective of her thank you, Frieda.
Frieda thank you for such an informative interview. Doran very patiently drew out such a lot of great information about you and zionism giving me a greater understanding
I appreciate how you both came at this with curiosity. I learned a lot.
Absolutely intelligent TH-camrs, both very well educated. I do how ever believe he misunderstood when she said the longevity of her cutting her hair. It’s only once they get married. He asked her why was it problematic if she’s been doing it all her life but that’s not in fact what she had said. This was great, thank you! I get what she means when you feel something in another country you’ve never been, I think there’s a beauty from your soul to see where your people came from, breath the air there, the culture ect.
I hadn’t heard of your guest prior to seeing her here. I have a great deal of respect for her stance: so many people who leave the community of their childhood express so much antipathy towards it, even decades afterwards. She’s managed to leave the Satmars, but maintains a balanced and, honestly, respectful view of Satmars individually and as a whole.
It is what I love so much about Frida. If you are ever in NYC she gives a tour of Hasidic Satmar Williamsburg that is wonderful. She is so respectful of the community and it really is like attending a college lecture on a subject she clearly knowns intimately.
What an interesting interview. Hreat to see Frieda being the interviewee for a change! ❤
Obviously that should read: great to see...
Thank you both for a most instructive hour. I have a much better understanding of the anti-Zionist Satmer perspective now.
Freida is so humble and honest ❤ such a great interview
Great discussion. Thank you both for sharing! I follow Frieda on here and watch all of her videos. I love to hear more about her personal story which she doesn't discuss much on her own channel.
Thanks for sharing!!
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A lovely, interesting, intelligent, informative interview. Gut gezogt! Zeyer interesant! Shkoyakh!!
Thank you for this interview. How did the Rabbi explain all the atrocities that happened to the jewish people (the inqusition, the pogroms, etc.) way before zionism was born?
Such an interesting woman with such an interesting story, and the way she puts it is so clear and simple and precise, that it really helps understanding what growing up this way is like. A lot of my misunderstandings regarding the ultra-orthodox communities has been cleared up in this video. Thank you Doran and thanks Frieda!
I'm so happy to hear - thank you. Grateful to Doran for having me on, he's a great host with a great audience.
That was very interesting. Thank you for allowing us to hear this conversation. The Hassidic Judaism history is very interesting especially when contrasted with what the torah/Tanakh says vs what the Talmud or "rabbis" say. (and yes I read the Tanakh, I also read it with Rashi commentaries, and a number of tractates of the Babylonian Talmud.)
Thank you for sharing this insightful video; I found it incredibly engaging. While I resonate with many of Frieda's perspectives, there is one significant point where our views diverge: I do not believe that Hasidim are genuinely anti-Zionist.
I recognize that this claim edges toward the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. However, I think this distinction is critical, particularly because many anti-Zionists exploit the claim that Hasidim are anti-Zionist to shield their own anti-Semitism. Before diving into this argument, I think it’s essential to provide some personal context.
Like Frieda, I was raised in a Hasidic community-specifically within the Skverer sect based in New Square. The Skverer Hasidim, while distinct from more overtly anti-Zionist groups like Satmar, still maintain a cautious distance from modern political Zionism (interestingly, Skverer Hasidim view their own enclave as a spiritual extension of the Holy Land). Growing up immersed in this culture and belief system, I have a nuanced perspective on how Hasidic communities navigate their relationship with Zionism.
Zionism, A Framework for Analysis:
To unpack this issue, I believe it’s important to define Zionism clearly. At its core, Zionism is rooted in three foundational claims:
1. The Jewish people are a distinct people with a shared history, culture, tradition, and a strong sense of spiritual and historical continuity spanning over two millennia.
2. The Jewish people have an inherent right to self-determination, as do all nations. This right is especially pressing given the Jewish experience of persecution, displacement, and systemic oppression. It entails the ability to establish a political and social framework that ensures their survival, continuity, and prosperity.
3. The Jewish people's ancestral homeland is the most appropriate place for their state. This land is imbued with profound historical, religious, and cultural significance and serves as the natural locus for Jewish self-determination.
To genuinely oppose Zionism, one must reject at least one of these pillars. The question, then, is: which of these claims do Hasidic communities reject?
The Hasidic Perspective on Zionism's Tenets:
The Jewish people as a distinct nation: Hasidic communities emphatically affirm this tenet. Their religious life, identity, and traditions are steeped in the idea of an unbroken lineage and a shared collective destiny. Their very existence is a testament to the Jewish people's enduring uniqueness.
The right to self-determination: Far from denying this, Hasidim uphold the need for Jewish survival and collective autonomy. Their approach often emphasizes spiritual and communal self-determination rather than reliance on secular political structures. However, this does not negate their belief in the legitimacy of Jewish self-preservation and autonomy.
The Jewish homeland as Israel: On this point, Hasidim are deeply aligned with Zionism's foundational premise. The Land of Israel occupies a central place in their prayers, religious observances, and cultural consciousness. They unequivocally view it as the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people.
What Hasidim Oppose:
The distinction lies not in rejecting Zionism’s core premises but in contesting two related but separate movements:
The premature implementation of Zionism: Hasidim, particularly Satmar and other similar groups, reject the establishment of a Jewish state before the arrival of the Messiah. This belief is rooted in a theological promise made by Jewish forefathers after the destruction of the Second Temple, which forbade reclaiming the land by force. In their view, the modern State of Israel represents a violation of this divine covenant, and they see its establishment as a transgression rather than a fulfillment of Jewish destiny.
The "New Jew" ideology: Introduced during the early Zionist Congresses, this concept aimed to create a modern Jewish identity distinct from traditional religious frameworks. The "New Jew" was envisioned as secular, self-reliant, and militarily capable, rejecting what some early Zionists saw as the passivity and religiosity of Diaspora Jews. To Hasidim, this ideology represents an existential threat to the continuity of traditional Jewish life. They reject both the theological implications of a pre-Messianic state and the cultural shift represented by the "New Jew" ideal. In their minds, the two are deeply interconnected.
Hasidim and Anti-Zionism, a Conclusion:
To label Hasidim as anti-Zionist is an oversimplification that conflates their theological objections with political opposition. They do not dispute the legitimacy of the Jewish people's historical claims, the need for self-determination, or the centrality of the Land of Israel. Instead, their criticisms are rooted in theological and cultural concerns, which they see as inextricably linked.
By making this distinction, I hope to illuminate why Hasidic perspectives on Zionism cannot be easily categorized as "anti-Zionist." Doing so risks misrepresenting their beliefs and, worse, enabling anti-Semitic rhetoric that misuses Hasidic positions to delegitimize the Jewish people’s right to self-determination. This is why clarity on this issue is so crucial.
Very good points. Thanks so much for taking the time to share this. I do agree, especially now with anti-zionism having come to mean a disagreement that Jews have a historical right to the land.
Thank you. Such a clear explanation. Chabad stands a bit aside from most Hasidic sects in its stance on the state of Israel and maybe even on Zionism. "Wherever I go, I am going to the Land of Israel", this quote is attributed to Rebbe Nachman of Breslov. I still have no time to ask Breslov folks whether the rabbi said that and if he did in what context. I strongly dislike Netuei Karta, this marginal tokenized sect, but come on, even they are sort of Messianic Zionists😃.
Zionists claiming that Torah Jews are not fundamentally different from them are like Christians claiming to have the same beliefs as Judaism but only "the messiah already came".
A really good summary. I think you only forgot to include that Herzl came up with Zionism as a reaction to modern Central European race based antisemitism which ruled out all options for Jews to survive as a minority in Europe or give up being Jewish (he seriously considered mass conversion to Christianity at some point but dismissed the idea after understanding that antisemitism sees being Jewish as an unchangable fact) so he wanted to normalise the Jewish people by giving them a state of their own to become just another nation among all others. That’s probably also a reason who insular Hasidic groups are critical of Zionism because they have no interest in integrating into a bigger framework or becoming normal, they stress that they are a nation apart and have no interest in concepts that are seen as modern or goyish like modern nationalism or communities that don’t align with their beliefs like broader Jewish non-orthodox society
They are nothing but crazy. And they are not even a sect because their number is so minimal They're just nuts.@@yuribliman8999
Frieda is such a treasure 💜
I love to see a colab between my two favorite TH-camrs! Thank you both for a great video
I am a big fan of Frieda Vizel and her YT channel. She is a deep thinker and has a way of expressing herself with precision and nuance and honesty that I deeply appreciate. But who is this person that runs the YT channel "The Easy Way"? Lots of very good questions asked and good points made here. Subscribed. Sometimes the YT algorithm gets it right.
Thank you for having Frieda on your channel. While I know Frieda only from online, I consider her a friend. I look at her, as that she's on a journey, a path. Maybe for that reason, I like to see her ask questions, and be critical, yet seeking her own way. I'm glad you asked her about Israel. But, I don't see that she gave you any deeper of an answer than she did me. In ways, I don't think she's ready to define her feelings, her thoughts...yet. And that's fine, it's perfectly normal.
Ps. I see you've had Preston on too. I'll have to watch that one also. _(Sometimes I agree with him. Other times; I feel that he's thinking too American, not out of the box, not critical enough. But, he does have his head in the right place.)_
It is great seeing you interviewed instead of the other way around..you are a very interesting person😊
Frieda reminds me very much of a friend of mine who was a Catholic nun for 35 years from age 17 before she left the order and married a priest she had known for many years. She didn't leave behind her Catholic beliefs but was shunned by many of her extended family and home town after she left the religious order. She had many good years with the love of her life until his death and now lives alone in a village where she has many close friends.
Life presents us all with choices. We need to do what is best for us and be willing to leave behind anything which restricts us.
@Frieda Vizel As a very new, yet very dedicated subscriber of your channel, I had no idea of the disparaging comments on your video presentations. How shameful and cruel- however, it occurred to me that these could be fake accounts made to “spam” the comments section. I’ve heard of that before.
I’m so glad these haven’t discouraged you from creating content, as I am so enjoying working my way through your videos and looking forward to more.
Thank you both for such an interesting conversation! Much love and appreciation.❤ 😊
Great interview. Thank you. I understand why some religious Jews were leery of Zionism. Not only was it originally a secular movement, but it was also encouraged by many antisemitics whose main motivation was that they did not want to give Jewish refugees a home in their own countries. I'd have been cautious.
I can't believe my two favorite TH-camrs released a video together🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
I'm so glad to have discovered Doran now.
Same here. I follow both channels
@@shimonbrandsdorfer9427 great to see you...
Frieda is the Best! As an evangelical I know the Messiah has come. I love the Jewish people as a whole and I deeply respect the Hasidim.
Noahide laws
Hi Frieda.
Loving your interview. Gives me a new insight to you. I guess this will be more conversation for our future shmooze over coffee or tea. (Probably evolving into dinner at this point! 🤣)
Your primal reaction to the singing of Hatikvah is because your soul connects to those who actually carried the burden.
There is a famous story about the first Shabbos Kodesh for the Jewish survivors of the Bergen-Belson camp after the British soldiers liberated them from the Nazis.
The Allied soldiers allowed them to celebrate their first Shabbos in freedom and during the making of Kiddush, they Jewish survivors spontaneously broke out singing HaTikvah.
It was recorded at the time. Every time I hear it, the tears flow and my heart fills with love.
Here is a link: th-cam.com/video/TWOkML4A8sU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ujoIWRIx3TuNBILe
Good to hear this,makes me think again all kind of things...
Haters Hate the Truth, the Facts and the Light!
I really appreciate your thoughtfulness with regard to everything you consider. I understand your distaste (I don't know what the proper term would be because this isn't strong enough) for shaving your head. People do not understand why some of us have such a problem with masks. They think what's the big deal? But for me, it is the hill I am ready to die on. It steals a person's humanity, their freedom, their "self", and soul. It is not possible to overstate what it means to me, and I just can not do it. I would be the same if I were told that I had to shave my head. If I chose to shave my head, that would be a different story. But if I were expected to, or told that I had to, I would not be able to do it. I hope that you understand the similarity. I do.
I enjoy Frieda‘s TH-cam channel. It’s very interesting because I grew up in Israel.
I liked it, I'd want you to ask more questions that could compare the Israeli Hasidic life and the American, maybe on the economic aspect like in Israel the government funds religious studies and usually men don't work. how is it in America.
I can give you simple example. I’m Hasidic woman who is married on Sephardic men. His family lives in Israel. And his relatives don’t accept me. Because they think, that I’m like Israeli Hasidic ))))) I’m not familiar with Israeli Hasidic. But here in New York we working hard. I have Master degree of Engineering (nuclear), and I know 3 different European languages. I’m familiar with modern art, it’s my hobby.
But my husband’s relatives has different vision about who I’m. And it’s funny for us )))
Hi l been looking at the video and she a lovely person Arlene from Scotland 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤and lovely video 📹 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉thankyou for youe video
Love learning from your videos and very sorry for the hate comments..ignorance of those people is very disheartening
really interesting conversation!
I am a Christian, I love the Jewish people, and I also get very touched hearing and singing HaTikvah.
G*d has by no means forgotten Israel, or the promises to His people. He will fulfill everything when Mashiach returns.
Noahide laws
I adore Friedas content is informative, eloquent, educated, it’s a wonder and wonderful to listen and watch.
I love educating myself and she gives the sort of content I think educates me and people in general incredibly well!
I am Christian and I love Jews; God’s chosen people. Our faiths are intertwined 🙏
I actually read an interview of the yeminte person who had the honor to hang Eichman ימח שמו. He said in his interviews that when he boarded the airplane he really thought he's boarding the eagle that will take him to the bais hamikdash.
man everything in this story sounds surreal
I love Frieda. It's nice seeing her be interviewed.
I love Frieda and her videos.
Explains things truthfully legitimately a point of view
28:25 fyi this is not a hassidic teaching per se. This is quoted from a combination of several midrashim which list the merit of the Israelites to be redeemed. There are many listed but avoiding assimilation is listed in the mechilta which is over 2000 years old (compile in mishnaic times). Well before the start of hasidism in the late 1700.
The fact that satmer may have picked this one to focus on above other reasons may be telling but it's not an original read.
Wow
I'm a big fan and follower of both of you for a long time I'm so surprised, I would never have imagined that I would find you meeting together
thanks !!
thank you again for all your wisdom and sharing your honest views from all your experience its very valuable for all of us.wasnt it "david green" who said?..."you put 10 jews in a room?and you get 11 opinions"... i am a rabid anti zionist non relig eastern European jews from nyc what is happening there in the name of zionism is genocide ok? im a bundist torah socialitz
In terms of her father laughing at a question about God's gift of Israel, this was a lesson that a person laughs at a question when they don't have a good answer.
This was very good, there are a lot of us out here that love Frieda.
Another fantastic conversation!
But one suggestion, it would be really helpful if you put time stamps on longer videos!
Those ppl who write such rubbish, are trolls. They're only there to bully & terrorize. They probably don't even listen to the entire vid. Those who see them must comment & shame them! They think they're many & big, & we are few & small. They need a wake-up call!
Womderful interview, thank u both!
Frieda, l am now an American evangelical Christian and l resonate with you and your innate connection to lsrael and their national anthem. Tears come to my eyes whenever l hear it. I grew up in Nassau on Long Island. Most of my best friends were Jewish girls. I always appreciated the warmth and acceptance l experienced within their families. It is only as l have grown older and bc a committed follower of Yashua that l really come to comprehend all that the Jewish people and lsrael have and continue to go through.
I am saddened to hear of the negative antisemitic comments left on your channel. I am glad that you seem to have removed them bc l have never noticed them there. The hard core naysayers are sad, indoctrinated, blinded sheep. I recently met a pleasant women at work who had been born in Morocco. When l mentioned the horrific eventsof October 7th in conversation, she quickly denied the validity of it and added that the Holocaust was complete fiction, too. I was gob smacked. I have personally met survivors with numerical wrist tattoos and listened to their personal survival testimonies. I read proudly , Corrie Ten Boom’s book, The Hiding Place and so many more verifiable, substantive facts. In that moment, the air was sucked out of that small work room. Fortunately, there were 2 other Black Christian co workers who calmly but firmly jumped into the conversation. It did not take long for all of us to decide that enlightenment to that darkened mind was not possible at that moment in time. This scenario reminds me of your “comments” situation and one other. I have noticed several times where people on public platforms refuse to name the names of perps bc they desire to deprive them of notoriety. I think that you may have decided a similar stance and l want to applaud you for your wisdom and sensitivity in the face of ignorant racism.💜🕊️
Thanks FV for clarifying that the NK is NOT Satmar BH.
46:00 we, Jews from so many different backgrounds are all different and all the same derp inside simultaneously. I am Soviet Jew (mizrachi roots) brought up with strong atheist communistic propaganda (people who believed into anything besides communism were ridiculed as unintelligent/shallow), have goosebumps listening to Hatikvah, Yerushalaim Shel Zahav, Shema Israel by Sarit Haddad… My American daughter, also not much observant, but has a very deep connection to being a Jew, participates in clubs, enjoyed Birthright, etc. She sang Yerushalaim at her Bat Mitzvah (in my profile) , then several years later, comes October 7, and she and her friends were so lost and feeling powerless.. next day she recorded Hatikvah, and I still have goosebumps listening to it in anyone’s voice.
th-cam.com/video/5xoxn_3gN8c/w-d-xo.html
Go visit Israel again ✡️🇮🇱👍
2nd comment: The connection of being Jewish is cultural but more importantly that the Jews are God’s chosen people! Frieda-you are so eloquent, deep, and thoughtful. You said that you were not a good student, but you are a bright adult. Keep searching, reading, researching. You belong to God. Praise Him! ❤
Lots of love ❤❤❤❤❤
Israel feels like home like nowhere else! And Hatikvah makes my heart and soul so happy 💙🤍
I find it so interesting that there’s the orthodox belief Jews shouldn’t live in Israel until the messiah returns, and on the flip side, another orthodox belief that messiah will only return when all the Jews are in the land. I wonder how they consolidate these polar perspectives..
Is it true that it is an Orthodox Jewish opinion that the Messiah will come when all the Jews are in Israel?
Perhaps. Judaism has many opinions. But I have always heard that the ingathering of the exiles קבוץ גליות will be the beginning of the time of the the Messiah and not a prerequisite.
Wrong. There is no prohibition against living in Israel, regardless of what one thinks about the anti-zionist opinion.
Thank you Frieda for explaining that. That lovely Satmar people (and I am by no means Satmar) that hold the opinions they hold from a religious perspective would never align themselves with anyone evil that would hurt any Jew. The Satmar Rav, they say, was broken when he heard Jewish soldiers were killed even though he didn't agree with their beliefs. Neturei karta is beyond fringe......a couple of dozen crazy people that are UNWELCOME in any Jewish community.
Ironically, despite being viewed as "anti-Zionist", the village of Kiryas Joel voted Trump by nearly 80% in the 2024 and 2020 elections.
❤❤❤ love her videos👌
I’ve known of this faction since my first visit to Mea Sharim. Rather appropriate, isn’t it? Let me share what else life in Israel has taught me . . .
A tour in Lebanon really clarified things. There, every village has its’ own religious leader, and every such leader is careful to find some tiny difference between his “correct” understanding and the “errors” of his counterpart in the village down the road. I saw that a lot of what we think of as “theology” and “tradition” were but artificial creations designed simply to protect the local leader and his claim to power.
The better I came to understand the more “devout” groups, the harder it became for me to separate them from the Iranian Mullahs. The more “devout,” the less tolerance for independence, creativity, and variation. The more devout, the more autocratic were those in leadership roles. Small wonder the early Zionists were eager to leave the Pale, to distance themselves from Talmud and instead embrace Josephus.
Perhaps it is this yearning for knowledge, this need to think freely, that has driven Jews of all stripes to excel in the more intellectual professions. Perhaps the desire to free yourself from dependence on the Rebbe is what motivates Jews in their drive for financial independence.
Frieda- I would love it if you could talk more about what happens when a couple gets divorced, one leaves the community, and they have a child together. No need to describe the personal details of your situation, but in general terms, do couples share custody? Does the parent without custody get visitation? If so, how do the parents explain to the child(ren) the differences in lifestyle and worldviews, especially if the person who leaves decides on a very secular worldview/lifestyle? Is it possible? What if the person goes to a more "liberal" Jewish sect, would that be easier to co-parent? And if there is a divorce, can the person who remains in the community get remarried? Thanks!
Remember, we are all born into a religion ❤
I love your videos.
BTW before Hassidism, Jews wore what the people in their area wore (as is "required" by the Rabbis.) however later, after Hassidism became popular due to their "off" dress, more and more "Lithuanian" Jews began to wear the "penguin" suit (and assimilate stories of Miracle working Rabbis.) Saadia Gaon is rolling in his grave.
By the wa the orthodox in Israel is also moved more to the zionism. Feeling wise, in the last year.
believing the gaslighting of nethanyawhore.. Zionism=Nazism
Frieda is great❤
I'm confused why Hebrew is seen as unkisher? If she can explain.
This is the thinking:
Hebrew is Lushen Koydesh (Holy Tongue). It is the sacred language of the Torah. How dare Jews who don't keep the Torah debase the language for everyday use, invent swear words, and bring it down to the gutter.
@stephenfisher3721 Thank you for explaining to me. I understand. It sounds like similar thinking to why we don't type G-d and only use name in certain situations. Thanks
Modern Hebrew is not a holy language
A "Sabra energy"....😅😅😅😅
SO TRUE!! In any group!
Satmar needs to learn the Prophets which clearly say that Jews will return to Israel before the Messiah comes. I wonder if modern Israel was founded by religious Jews, would they still oppose it.
Who is the interviewer?
Never again means never again for everyone
Why?
Whoever said that?
The Torah is light. The Tenach and New Testament are an extension of it.
So then did your siddurs publish in Yiddish?
Satmar men pray in Hebrew.
יש גם קהילות סטמאר בארץ. במושבה יבנאל יש קהילה גדולה.
יבניאל לא קשור לסאטמאר
I disagree with your analysis that the majority of people only come to Frieda’s channel to criticise Zionists. I am not Jewish but interested in Friedas content and her warmth towards humanity and understanding. I also advocate for Palestinians to live in their land without apartheid oppression and genocide.
There are definitely cult like qualities to Hasidic Judaism. At least certain sects. The Satmars are amongst the most insular and conservative whereas the Lubovitch accept Israel and do outreach to less observant Jews (like Chabad Houses at colleges and universities all over the US). But while the Lubovitch are seeking to increase their following, they do not do so by proselytizing. The Satmars definitely veer toward cultlike qualities. They're also very happy to exploit the American welfare system.
אני ישראלי ואני חבר במפלגה קומוניסטית בארה״ב, אם תהייה מעוניין לדבר אהיה שמח.
Is it true that the communist and far left of isreal agree with the anti-Zionist left of America 🤔?
It's equally as valid to make the argument that events like the inquisition and holocaust happened because Jews rejected going back to Israel, a gift from God, and this was the result. Much of the arguments made against, reminds me of the allegory of the row boat. If God sends you a boat, you actually have to take it.
Love you...but why was it important to say and after I got married " in an arranged marriage"?
you should interview rabbi yaakov shapiro about religious antizionism. and if you want the neturei karta perspective, rabbi yisroel dovid weiss is the man!
First political Zionist was Rabbi Alkalai whose program was copied by Hertzl. Hertz's grandfather was a follower of Rabbi Alkalai. Alkalai said (in 1840) that the Jews have 100 years to recreate the Jewish state, otherwise the Jewish state would rise but under worse condition. "Ultra" religious Jews who opposed Zionism opposed any group that was different, or was not Rabbinical...(even though they also opposed other rabinical groups... in other words, it was all power struggle.)
Just wondering why did shaving hair make you leave religion. Satmar is not Judaism. There are different groups of Jews.
The people who pushed you out because of humra? possibly not even Humra, but crazy customs were extremely misguided and frankly wrong.. Hair shaving isnt in the shulhan aruch!!!!
שלוש השבועות..
כל מי שמתעניין בחברה החרדית חייב להכיר את הבסיס הדתי לגישה האנטי - ציונית. לרבנים בציבור הדתי -לאומי יש תשובות לטענה של 3 השבועות.
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I love her very much. She is very honest. Every secular Israeli needs to see her content.
Also, I have a slight problem with a Jew who knows Greek philosophy, but knows nothing about Jewish thought. There is something so inauthentic and ignorant about it. Sorry, if offensive, but Jews, whether you believe or not, learn your heritage.
Greek philosophy is not as distinct from Jewish thought as you might suggest.
Maimonides, considered one of the greatest Jewish philosophers of all time, was greatly influenced by reading the works of Aristotle.
@ I’m not saying that it’s very different, it’s bigger, though, but it’s ironic that you mentioned Aristotle. Wasn’t he the one traveling with Alexander the Great and asking to look at Solomon’s library? It is very interesting to me that somehow when people started getting patents for their inventions, Jews, all of a sudden, became great inventors, yet, before that, it was all Greeks and Romans and such. It was the Jews who were influenced by the Greek philosophy, it wasn’t the other way around. Has anyone ever thought that, maybe Greek philosophers were greatly influenced by the Jews of that era?
@@hpyrkh3 There's no good evidence to suggest that Greek philosophers were influenced by Jews.
Is it theoretically possible? yes
Is it probable? no:
- Languages barriers
- Geographic and cultural isolation
the Satmar Rov was right
“ interesting” that the Jews that went to Israel to live , hence breaking the promise , survived and the Jews who stayed in Romania , Hungary et Al were the Jews who were punished and murdered. Kind of like your neighbor breaks the law, but you are the one who gets arrested for their crime.
That is an interesting perspective especially when you take in the account that the satmar rebbe went to Palestine at the last minute when the nazis were closing in and left most of the Jews of his sect to die, saving himself in the process. But still was anti Zionist which in my opinion can be seen as hypocritical or just plain ignorant.
@@peytonv4040 I can definitely understand your point of view.
Satmer is a cult
It is a sect. It is not a cult.
What the Samar/Neturei karta/anti-Zionist group says and what their origin was is very different. Alkalai organized an Aliyah group in 1840s to return to the land of Israel and recreate a state. The opposition to the "vote" was an opposition to allow women (gvauld) to vote in the Jewish Agency (until Agudas realized they would get more representation) and it was only after the death of Ha Rev Kook that Neturei Karat raised its head, but they claim it was because the assassination of De Haas. And the concept was to have "the party" separate from the "other" be it the guy on the other side of the street, or because they eat Kitniyot (which is allowed!!!)
She looks younger in white .
Illusion ?
19:43 אמ… תינוקות/ילדים מתימן ש״לקחו״ אותם???הלו!!!