Then you can also smell a lot of stuff sitting at home. Boy it must be hard life... Some of the drivers must have stinking butts and I don't want to know what you smell
That looks like an old 2U D8. My dad had one just like it. 30s vintage. But let's give her a fighting chance, hook to the draw bar like it was designed. Not the blade which was designed to push. Also that was about the lightest D8 on the books. Or better yet, hook it to the logging winch.
I get that there are people talking about the physics of ground force and traction, but if you watch the video you can clearly see that the front of the dozer was lifted off the ground. This prevented it from hooking up but it still put up a helluva fight. Should have been attached from the rear.
Magnum Homesteader have you seen gm, ford or dodge have recalls for frames rusting in half? Because in the 90s, 00s, and when the 10, 11, 12, 13 and so on have frame rusting issues
That is an immense amount of time & work planning & implementing this contest. My son, an engineer, with a few known`s, (given`s). And his calculator could conclude the outcome from his desk. But this is much more fun!
We have one almost identical and the the tracks and undercarriage were replaced it made a world of difference. We run cats from d4 all the way to d8. Never had a chance to run a d11 or d10 but have spent years on the d7 and d8
It gives the trucks the advantage because they are pulling at a much lower center of gravity giving them far superior traction! Where as the dozer is pulling at such a high point hes getting minimal traction and getting lifted so hes not able to gain full traction.
What are you talking about? The chain was attached HIGHER than the whiffletree (the I-beam). When they pull on it, it's pulling BACK and DOWN, grinding the tracks into the ground. You are totally backward. If the chain had been hooked to the hook on the back of the dozer and a hook on the back of a TALLER machie, THEN it would be lifting the weight. Watch it again, and if you still think it's "lifting" the dozer, you're wrong. Even if it WAS lifting the front, it'd still be forcing the REAR of the tracks down into the soil, like one of those portable towing anchors.
The way it was chained to the blade, it pulled the front end of the dozer up, and reduced the traction on it. That's a good part of the pushing power of the D8.
Wrong. The trucks are hooked BELOW the chain. The chain is pulling BACK and DOWN. Open your eyes. Even if it was pulling straight back, it'd be lifting the FRONT, transferring all the weight to the BACK of the tracks, driving them into the ground.
justforever96 yeah but look at the ground to get maximum traction you need all the track on the ground the back might end up with more weight but it is still going to slip more have you ever had any experience with tracked equipment?
Hi, justforever96. Your 'theory' is interesting but lacking in one 'tiny, minor' detail. In lifting the front of the dozer's tracks off the ground - as it OBVIOUSLY does in the video - that rigging was reducing the dozer's ground contact area and thus it ability to get traction, IN SPITE OF the fact that weight was being transferred to the lesser ground contact area at the rear. For others who are guessing about it, from the fuel tank with the forward extension on the right side on that D8, it would appear to be a 13A series D8 which would have been around 160 to 180 horsepower and built from around November, 1953, onward. acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?518-What-gave-the-13A-d8-more-power Just my 0.02. You all have a wonderful debate. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
@@justforever96 as an owner of two bulldozers im gonna have to agree with not you, the drawbar would be the best place to hook to, its designed for it xd
I think the ole dozer finally stalled out, but you can see the jeeps won this one. They drug it backwards at first. What a good time wish i could of been there.
Agreed . Although I’m a Toyota truck fan from way back . I ran a D11 for several years in a open pit mine tearing down mountains ... and yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if 100 Toyota’s couldn’t outpull the big D11 cat . Earth moving takes on a whole new meaning when your running a D11 . Simply amazing machines .
In the end it comes down to traction. You can have as much power as you like but the surface area 80 tyres gripping the ground each with about 250kg of weight on each is just more than the grip of 2 tracks with 6000 odd kg on each track
I would like to see 50 Toyota's or Jeeps,or any 4wd vehicle against a new D11 Cat Dozer.My money is on the Dozer.This Dozer was has worn out tracks and engine.
@@TheGamingChad. Someone in another comment figured up the tire/track to ground contact area in sq. in. for both the dozer and 50 Toyota's and it was pretty even. It would be interesting for sure. I'd give the edge to the dozer.
***** Yea, totally the same. Fuck, there is a lot of better things to worry about than someone in a video having fun and using the equipment he paid for. Hundreds of people gathered together having a good time and years later people manage to pick it apart and bitch. Note - he didnt ruin his clutch and none of this bullshit matters.
Buick Bubba Even if something got broken, it wasn't for nothing, it was for the sake of an experiment. Or isn't it interesting to find out how many cars you need to counteract the pull of a bulldozer?
That 1 old, asthmatic, Cat D8 with engine and power plate in poor condition, questionable power-on technique applied makes as much pulling power as 17 or 18 Toyota 4x4s. Could they repeat that demo with a new D8 dozer?
TPBfanclub420 The "spec" label of this D8 suggests a '53 classic with 180hp and 22 tonnes weight while a new D8t has 317 flywheel hp and weighs 39.6 tonnes. Wonder how much more Toyota 4x4 traction that would be worth...
Bjerken Badger Each Landcruiser pulls @ 125HP with 6-cyl 3.9Li petrol engine and 135HP with 6-cyl 4.2Li petrol engine respectively. I've doubt they're using locking-differential or LSD's and weights for greater traction.
@@tloutfitters From Wiki: 1950 - The Korean War created demand for a military light utility vehicle. The war put a Jeep on Japan's doorstep. The United States government ordered 100 vehicles with the new Willys specifications and tasked Toyota to manufacture them.
patrick connors plase dont say stupid things like this i love komatsu and have worked on both dozers the caterpillar is much better in everyway except the komatsu is bigger but driving the cat i way way better in yes pretty much everyway
Ástvaldur Einar Jónsson it id s very old dozer it isn't like the new ones. it is all mechanical and all mechanical dozers drive the same as the other....like crap unless you are very coordinated.
50 year old low track Cat, god only knows what condition the clutches were in that raggedy as dozer. The track grousers were absolutely shot to hell. The engine was running like shit, probably only on 5 cylinders. This video is shit, staged and rigged in favor of the Yotas. C'mon guys you do better.
this test has nothing to do with who can out pull who, clearly off road tiers will get more traction than one small dozer, the combined weight of the toyotas' is vastly greater than that of the dozer, make the weights even then the test might be fair. the dozer never once ran out of power, it ran out of traction.
I thumbs down you because this was a pointless test as anyone could have told you the outcome here based on weight...would have been much cooler to see something like oh i don't know a D-11 vs 40 maybe 50
+TrayBiz1 Regardless it is cool.. Just because ive seen nothing like it.. And its cool to theorize.. But really cool to see... No doubt I would say put a D10r or 11 up there... But thanks for the video... What this set up by you or?
The Toyotas total about 100,000 pounds, I would guess. The D8, probably 60,000 to 70,000. I thought the dozer's tracks would make up the difference, with better traction, but they didn't. This was an interesting scenario. Try it with a dozer that weighs the same as the total of the Toyotas, say a 70s model D9. I think a modern D10, would never spin a track.
It gives the trucks the advantage because they are pulling at a much lower center of gravity giving them far superior traction! Where as the dozer is pulling at such a high point hes getting minimal traction and getting lifted so hes not able to gain full traction. Id lile to see this again with equal rigging!
I can smell the clutches burning from here 😂
Then you can also smell a lot of stuff sitting at home. Boy it must be hard life... Some of the drivers must have stinking butts and I don't want to know what you smell
Agreed!
What an extremely weird comment@@Titanrock797
Caterpillar: One of the few brands that last longer than toyota
Those things are bullet proof
Or just about any 7.3l international... Or any tractor on my uncles farm... Or anything diesel
Toyota's are trash. A kia would last longer
They should try this again with a D11 👍🏻
@@jacobbender5449 qq
That looks like an old 2U D8. My dad had one just like it. 30s vintage. But let's give her a fighting chance, hook to the draw bar like it was designed. Not the blade which was designed to push. Also that was about the lightest D8 on the books. Or better yet, hook it to the logging winch.
Poor old dozer. Get a D11 and let's see who wins.
+tloutfitter Ikr the d8s are so much smaller!
A D11 would pull 20 toyota's like cans after a wedding!
Lol
Lykoloo jajajajaja!!!!
tloutfitter why would that be trolling? Hell, put 50 of those Toyotas up against that D11 and let's party!!!
Cool. Would've been a different ending with the D8 hooked right. Nice vid
I get that there are people talking about the physics of ground force and traction, but if you watch the video you can clearly see that the front of the dozer was lifted off the ground. This prevented it from hooking up but it still put up a helluva fight. Should have been attached from the rear.
that old D8 put up a hell of a fight
Ben Heatherman yeap
bullshit, it was the drivers fault
That's what I thought. A lot of weight and traction in those 20 Toyotas....amazing the dozer almost held them back.
Never even tried
They might consider trying again but, put the dozer in reverse with the chains hooked-up the same way.
steam
That Cat just laughed at the Land Cruzers! ;)
Chain to high lifted up the tracks tow from rear hitch
Very cool! A lot of work went into that!
That old D-8 will still be pushing dirt long after most of thoseToyota's will have been scrapped
dalekrueger Wrong. Yotas are known for their endurance too
+Magnum Homesteader yes yes it would be
79pejeperro engine wise, yes. But id buy a Chevy or ford or even a dreadful dodge before ud buy a yota. I dont like my frames rusting in half
Magnum Homesteader have you seen gm, ford or dodge have recalls for frames rusting in half? Because in the 90s, 00s, and when the 10, 11, 12, 13 and so on have frame rusting issues
dalekrueger Toyota’s will be there don’t worry.
That is an immense amount of time & work planning & implementing this contest. My son, an engineer, with a few known`s, (given`s). And his calculator could conclude the outcome from his desk. But this is much more fun!
Even with that old dozer if the grousers on the tracks weren't almost worn completely off it might have been a different story.
Damn straight
We have one almost identical and the the tracks and undercarriage were replaced it made a world of difference. We run cats from d4 all the way to d8. Never had a chance to run a d11 or d10 but have spent years on the d7 and d8
It ram out of power. Not traction
The problem was the chain was hooked to the top of the blade and it picked it up and started picking up the front on the dozer
Bradly Windsor You're 100% correct. A leverage disadvantage for sure.
Surprised no one caught this flaw. This pull proves nothing.
I'd have to agree! I was thinking the same thing! I really feel this dozer would have won if the rigging was different.
It gives the trucks the advantage because they are pulling at a much lower center of gravity giving them far superior traction! Where as the dozer is pulling at such a high point hes getting minimal traction and getting lifted so hes not able to gain full traction.
daviddaddy Yep. The dozer didn't even have full tracks on the ground when the Toyota's were winning.
What are you talking about? The chain was attached HIGHER than the whiffletree (the I-beam). When they pull on it, it's pulling BACK and DOWN, grinding the tracks into the ground. You are totally backward. If the chain had been hooked to the hook on the back of the dozer and a hook on the back of a TALLER machie, THEN it would be lifting the weight. Watch it again, and if you still think it's "lifting" the dozer, you're wrong. Even if it WAS lifting the front, it'd still be forcing the REAR of the tracks down into the soil, like one of those portable towing anchors.
Lol looks fun! Good vid man!
Think you can find an older dozer next time?
+Sodiumreactor
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BULLDOZER D11 is the best biggest strongest...
very heavy weight
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@@bestamerica kamatsu d575 is the biggest dozer made not a d11
@@chrisbeekley1887 yea but in 10years we'll see which one is still pushing dirt (and how much dirt got moved in between).
I gotta admit that was impressive.Thanks for the effort in doing this guys!
Cool video, I love old Toyotas and Cat bulldozer. Nothing but a win win for me
Nice to see all those old yotas in one place all looking good , respect
It looks like Santa's reindeer are trying to pull his sleigh the wrong way 😂
20 Toyota’s and they are cheering? 😂
thats a first awesome vid love it
Wow.....! Bulldozer puwer is amazing 👌❤️❤️❤️
The way it was chained to the blade, it pulled the front end of the dozer up, and reduced the traction on it. That's a good part of the pushing power of the D8.
Stmtrolleyguy Yep! Wasn't a fair pull.
Wrong. The trucks are hooked BELOW the chain. The chain is pulling BACK and DOWN. Open your eyes. Even if it was pulling straight back, it'd be lifting the FRONT, transferring all the weight to the BACK of the tracks, driving them into the ground.
justforever96 yeah but look at the ground to get maximum traction you need all the track on the ground the back might end up with more weight but it is still going to slip more have you ever had any experience with tracked equipment?
Hi, justforever96.
Your 'theory' is interesting but lacking in one 'tiny, minor' detail. In lifting the front of the dozer's tracks off the ground - as it OBVIOUSLY does in the video - that rigging was reducing the dozer's ground contact area and thus it ability to get traction, IN SPITE OF the fact that weight was being transferred to the lesser ground contact area at the rear.
For others who are guessing about it, from the fuel tank with the forward extension on the right side on that D8, it would appear to be a 13A series D8 which would have been around 160 to 180 horsepower and built from around November, 1953, onward.
acmoc.org/bb/showthread.php?518-What-gave-the-13A-d8-more-power
Just my 0.02.
You all have a wonderful debate. Best wishes. Deas Plant.
@@justforever96 as an owner of two bulldozers im gonna have to agree with not you, the drawbar would be the best place to hook to, its designed for it xd
Nice old Land Cruisers!
I think the ole dozer finally stalled out, but you can see the jeeps won this one. They drug it backwards at first. What a good time wish i could of been there.
You guys rock 🥰👌👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
CCoolest tug o war iv seen :)
a D11 Dozer would pull 100 toyotas back to japan for wrecking
websurfer79
My Toyota is 34 years old and has pushed an insane amount of snow with a bunch of original parts
Plz don t 😭 cry
Those 100 Toyota’s were probably owned by very neglectful drivers.... Most of them last forever (:
Lol
Agreed . Although I’m a Toyota truck fan from way back . I ran a D11 for several years in a open pit mine tearing down mountains ... and yes, I wouldn’t be surprised if 100 Toyota’s couldn’t outpull the big D11 cat . Earth moving takes on a whole new meaning when your running a D11 . Simply amazing machines .
That was fun to watch!
Great Discussions!$
In the end it comes down to traction. You can have as much power as you like but the surface area 80 tyres gripping the ground each with about 250kg of weight on each is just more than the grip of 2 tracks with 6000 odd kg on each track
So this is what Todd Hoffman is doing these days
05 Impreza STI I guess once gold makes you rich you get to go screw around and do whatever you want.
nah hes still trying to out do parker. wont ever happen he is an idiot.
Let's Build A Wall uyetulk
Jacob _6420 call a bloke that's put everything on the line an idiot??
Lol
That was pretty dam kooool, no matter who won.
Well played Yota well played.
"I don't know how many its gonna take, but I know how many they was gonna use"
the new caterpillar d8 will toes all these cars so easily
Forget the d8 and the Toyotas that I beam is the winner. i didn't think it stood a chance.
Jared Jeanotte That was surprising also!
Quê coisa heim!?
Os carrinhos ae tentando puxar ô vovô Caterpillar 😁😁😁😁😁😁
That looked like a great tug of war.well done to u all..
was not 100% fair..the D8 having his blaid raised like that lifted the front end and minimized the traction..
runningcolt Yep!
Haha yes, that will make a difference!
The driver stalled the caterpillar, i think if he kept it going, even on dry ground he would have made it!?
Отлично! Хорошее получилось видео . Мне кажется, я захотел поделиться этим видео с другими .
Nice video
all hail the mighty '53 D8
Damn them chains on that blade make me nervous watching, if anyone has ever seen one break under a massive load, they can cut you right in two.
friggin awesome
As toyotas tiraram uma onda!!! 🌊 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I can almost hear drive shafts breaking. Lol
Duas perguntas
Porque e pra quê ?
Excellent
I liked so much!!!!!
If the dozer had deeper cleats it,would have one that easy
+kylewil12plays would have one that????? no would have WON that
I kind of doubt having longer grousers would have helped the Cat.
I would like to see 50 Toyota's or Jeeps,or any 4wd vehicle against a new D11 Cat Dozer.My money is on the Dozer.This Dozer was has worn out tracks and engine.
120 tons vs 92 tons (50 of them), dozer is heavier, now its all about traction, pretty sure the dozer would win
@@TheGamingChad. Someone in another comment figured up the tire/track to ground contact area in sq. in. for both the dozer and 50 Toyota's and it was pretty even. It would be interesting for sure. I'd give the edge to the dozer.
LMAO! Thanks, this made my day!
What a cool thing to do on a day off
Good way to destroy your clutch....
you mad that you wouldnt be able to afford a new one? lmao
Just because something is cheap, doesn't mean you have the right to break it.
Buick Bubba Actually, if you own it you have the right to do whatever the fuck you want.
***** Yea, totally the same.
Fuck, there is a lot of better things to worry about than someone in a video having fun and using the equipment he paid for. Hundreds of people gathered together having a good time and years later people manage to pick it apart and bitch.
Note - he didnt ruin his clutch and none of this bullshit matters.
Buick Bubba
Even if something got broken, it wasn't for nothing, it was for the sake of an experiment. Or isn't it interesting to find out how many cars you need to counteract the pull of a bulldozer?
I would totally love to see a D11 T doing the same thing because for sure it would win and destroy all those trucks
Oh no doubt about it.
ADOREI o vídeo parabéns meus ídolos parabéns adorei 👏👏❤❤❤👍🏿👏!!!
foi preciso 20 toyota pra vencer o D8, e foi duro a batalha.
Some collectable Toyota’s there.
Soo its like, 1 caterpillar d8 is equivalent to 20 toyotas
I think my D7 has a bit more grunt than that old D8 I think I can take em
Trabalhei numa carbonífera que tinha 5 Cat D8.Pensa num trator bruto.
amazing👍👍👍
That 1 old, asthmatic, Cat D8 with engine and power plate in poor condition, questionable power-on technique applied makes as much pulling power as 17 or 18 Toyota 4x4s. Could they repeat that demo with a new D8 dozer?
A new one would walk away with 20 of anything.
TPBfanclub420 The "spec" label of this D8 suggests a '53 classic with 180hp and 22 tonnes weight while a new D8t has 317 flywheel hp and weighs 39.6 tonnes. Wonder how much more Toyota 4x4 traction that would be worth...
Sure, but compare it with twenty of the 1FZ Landcruisers. The ones with the crazy diff lockers and shit.
Adriaan Verburg How about 20 other D8s? lol
Bjerken Badger
Each Landcruiser pulls @ 125HP with 6-cyl 3.9Li petrol engine and 135HP with 6-cyl 4.2Li petrol engine respectively. I've doubt they're using locking-differential or LSD's and weights for greater traction.
Am I supposed to be surprised?
tires VS tracks... i seriously was thinking the Caterpillar D8 was going to win
Nossa tem que ter tempo hem
Mas foi bom parabéns aos organizadores
its rigged bulldozer would have won easily if the chains weren't on the blade making the dozer loose traction.
The track trousers are worn tight off
now thats a braggin right, 20 against 1.
Now that's entertainment that's cool
Amazing
Good to know if i get my old D-8 stuck, call up 20 jeeps and a I-beam.
lol 20 toyotas...lol not j.e.e.p.s
+tloutfitter oops.
@@tloutfitters imitation jeeps. :p
l337pwnage brahaha... imitation Jeep's... you're hilarious...Jeep copied Toyota...not the other way around...troll...and not a smart troll either...
@@tloutfitters From Wiki: 1950 - The Korean War created demand for a military light utility vehicle. The war put a Jeep on Japan's doorstep. The United States government ordered 100 vehicles with the new Willys specifications and tasked Toyota to manufacture them.
It takes 20 Toyota’s to make enough to torque to pull a 100hp diesel lol
I just say one thing: TORQUE.
That is why you check the Torque before buying a Diesel.
try a d11! THIS WAS SOO FRIGGIN AWSOME!
How many will it be needed for D11T?? 200 Toyotas?
d11t is a pile of rubbish.d575a komatsu is actually wat you meant to say is,nt it
patrick connors Whatever xD
patrick connors
plase dont say stupid things like this i love komatsu and have worked on both dozers the caterpillar is much better in everyway except the komatsu is bigger but driving the cat i way way better in yes pretty much everyway
Ástvaldur Einar Jónsson it id s very old dozer it isn't like the new ones. it is all mechanical and all mechanical dozers drive the same as the other....like crap unless you are very coordinated.
haha you obv have never worked on one
50 year old low track Cat, god only knows what condition the clutches were in that raggedy as dozer. The track grousers were absolutely shot to hell. The engine was running like shit, probably only on 5 cylinders. This video is shit, staged and rigged in favor of the Yotas. C'mon guys you do better.
+Riley Wooten thats just how Toyotas win competitions man
Riley Wooten
The Yotas had to gang up on the old Cat. Just like in da hood.
Obama did it.
Epic!
Let's wait for both
Hook the chains to an area that won't pull the front end off the ground and see what happens. Poor video of what that d8 would've done.
Cribs Creek Outfitters 100% correct!
this test has nothing to do with who can out pull who, clearly off road tiers will get more traction than one small dozer, the combined weight of the toyotas' is vastly greater than that of the dozer, make the weights even then the test might be fair. the dozer never once ran out of power, it ran out of traction.
+Ethan Hardwick actually they weigh exactly the same as that dozer. Thats why they put 20 Toyotas, each one 4000lbs
A modern day d8 weighs 80,000lbs no way an old one weighed that!
+Y10Q That D8 weighs around 40,000 not 80,000. Get a life!!
+Y10Q those toyotas are actually around 3300 lbs
+sidewayznut2009 My bad... about 3300 lbs.. Looked it up
Haha, this video is awesome.
@Hello Nick Oaks, How are you doing?
Классно! Волоком утащили))
Power wasn't a factor when the tracks were "spinning".
I would rather push a Cat
Any day than drive a Toyota!
This remembers me Fast & Furious 😍
I thumbs down you because this was a pointless test as anyone could have told you the outcome here based on weight...would have been much cooler to see something like oh i don't know a D-11 vs 40 maybe 50
+TrayBiz1 Thanks, i made the video while spectating this.. so...? :P
+Dion den Braber No really thanks for posting tho still entertaining non the less
+TrayBiz1 Regardless it is cool.. Just because ive seen nothing like it.. And its cool to theorize.. But really cool to see... No doubt I would say put a D10r or 11 up there... But thanks for the video... What this set up by you or?
D8T weighs 90,000 pounds. I am guessing a jeep weighs about 4,000???
Shut up you asshat
Reminds me of when I use to have pulling contest with tanks in the service with my Euclid moon-cat.
The Toyotas total about 100,000 pounds, I would guess. The D8, probably 60,000 to 70,000. I thought the dozer's tracks would make up the difference, with better traction, but they didn't. This was an interesting scenario. Try it with a dozer that weighs the same as the total of the Toyotas, say a 70s model D9. I think a modern D10, would never spin a track.
Американцы знают толк в шоу и в рекламе👏👏👏
Epic👌💯👍
Miss my 76 Land Crusher ☹️☹️ it had a 307 CHEV SM 420 trans 33" tires , bikini top
Been looking around for another one
😉Hey!!! 👍Good show. Wrongly set up!!
VERY GOOD TESTING, BRASIL OK
I Love it .
Very cool
Foi até covardia esses Toyotas são fortes paca
Parabens para o cateepilar!!!
Lol! Guys those old D8’s only had 200 HP’s and only weighed 60000lbs. But liked the video.
It gives the trucks the advantage because they are pulling at a much lower center of gravity giving them far superior traction! Where as the dozer is pulling at such a high point hes getting minimal traction and getting lifted so hes not able to gain full traction. Id lile to see this again with equal rigging!