I have owned a number of AWD Toyota's and Subarus. They are good enough to keep you moving under most road conditions, but not for actual off-road use. The Cross with no-season tires did remarkably well in that deep snow.
Subaru vehicles tend to do well, besides extreme off-road stuff but that's where you'll get a jeep/bronco/4runner not a Subaru lol their awd system is fairly advanced vs competitor like we see here where it outperformed Toyota
@@octoslut Subaru tends to kill the competition in snow and ice because their system is NOT advanced. The center differential is a simple fluid coupling that predates WW1. It doesn't turn on and off, it's on all the time, it's always working. Vehicles like the Honda CRV were notorious for sucking because they would be FWD until slip is detected, and then complicated fuckery would try to engage the rear wheels, and it would always be done in the most half-assed way possible. Similarly, sports cars have excellent limited slip differentials that are purely mechanical. There's no lag because there's nothing to turn on - it's always on.
@@shawn576 Thanks for the info. I was considering purchasing a Corolla eAWD hybrid and from what you mentioned, it's exactly the same thing as the Honda. Not going to work in the northeastern US. I will see if there is an option for decent snow tires but if not, not going to bother. Thanks once again
All I know, is that the traction control in my wifes Legacy just seems to make all 4 wheels spin pretty evenly when backing out my steep driveway with 6" of snow without a hiccup. For a sedan, it's a beast in the winter. I really think Subaru has one of the best AWD systems on the market.
I took my crosstrek through 3 feet of powder in my parking lot after a storm ,it went through it with ease ,it helped having pavement underneath me but I was still impressed!
Subaru symetrical AWD makes car hovering like UFO on heavy snow road,... I love drive my 2017 6 speed Legacy in narrow mountain road when nobody wants to go outside.
I just borrowed my friend’s crosstreck to drive up the Catskills mountains,loved the handling ,ride nice climate control,was very impressed.I own a civic ,so it’s like night and day,but my civic has gotten me everywhere,just not as smoothly!😁
Subaru does have the best AWD system. I would rather drive a Subaru if there's snow and rough roads. I do think that if Toyota had better tires it may have done better.
my mom has a 2011 matrix 2.4 with fwd and its amazing in snow. she just ordered one of these, we didn't get awd because i believe as long as you have winter tires it should do well also.
I like that you cover more important espacts that other journalists are afraid to even try. All wheel drive is one thing that we rarely see being tested so soon after a launch of a vehicle. Your experience and recommendations are very valuable to someone thinking of buying a new vehicle. Some of us care more about what's underneath then all the leather coverings and how big the screen on the vehicle is.
Gotta say, you guys make the cleanest videos in car review segment. Love it and very much appreciate all the effort. Being from BC myself definitely know the weather struggle.
Picked up my Crosstrek Sport today. Took three months to get one but glade to say it happened. Hope I like it. The first hundred miles driving home from the dealer was nice.
@@Toyota4Life Better than Toyota’s AWD system. Toyota/Lexus by far has one of the weakest AWD systems out there. 4WD system on the other hand is top notch. Remember AWD and 4WD are NOT THE SAME
@@HOTPLATEGAMING Lmdao dude. I would take a tundra TRD pro or 4 runner TRD pro. Or even a GR Yaris rally. Over any Subaru on sale ANY. Subaru only makes me one decent car away. Have a good day lol
As much off roading as I do, I can tell you that with all due respect, the AT tires that Subaru has is an unfair advantage and from what I saw, did make a difference. Tires are basically always a major factor in any driving situations where grip is a concern. In the end, I'd like to see you swap tires and repeat the test.
AWD is ok, although I still think Subaru's is better. Main weakness is that it clearly needs a more powerful engine, especially in the more expensive trim levels.
@@edsmith9855 I would be going for the Rav4 Hybrid so a larger engine wouldn't interest me. I hear you on the Subaru having a better AWD but come to find out that may not be the case any more. Check out some of the testing they do and you'll find that the Rav4 is coming out ahead and has in every recent video I've seen.
@@generalcaeser9176 I was talking about Crosstrek vs Corolla Cross specifically in regards to Subaru having a better AWD system. Some Toyota models do have very good AWD systems.
@@edsmith9855 Oh, I see. At first I was seriously considering those but then realized I really need more ground clearence with the amount of snow we get up north here.
@@JungleLoveOeOeO I felt that way for 25 years but there are just too many recent videos showing differently. I've owned loads of Subaru's and they are amazing but I've found them less reliable than Toyota's are. So I really like what I see on these new tests as it gives us both off road capability and better reliability.
The biggest thing with the Corolla cross that people are forgetting is….it’s a Corolla. Nothing flashy, just a standard car that’s perfect for the beginning drivers or just as a reliable daily commuter. As a Corolla owner myself of 8 years, this got me so excited but it’s sadly time to move on to bigger and better options. Maybe if I have the extra money I’d buy it for fun but who knows
Have the AWD Cross, it has been great on the back desert dirt roads & mud, proper tires do make a difference. The Cross on dirt roads is highly underrated...
And this proves my point about that TFL Outback video... they didn't drive the Outback properly. It was essentially the same obstacle as this one, but they failed whereas you succeeded. I really appreciate the truthfulness and unbiased testing.
TFL has beef against subaru, that’s why they purposely give negative reviews on Subaru vehicles….they hate Subaru so much that they actually buy Subaru vehicles just to talk shit on them…..
Amazing in the snow. I was scooting up a hill in the CO mountains during a blizzard once while Audi's and Jeeps were pulled over or spinning out. Stock tires too.
I bought a 2021 Subaru Forester last year and it's been a great purchase. Why do I keep watching your videos if I have no intention of buying a new car? Well, they're just fun to watch. And when you bring your Crosstrek in for the fun of it, it adds a layer of depth to the video (and for me, something to root for 😬). Great job with this Toyota. P.S. I love the gauge cluster on the Toyota, but I hate the way the infotainment system looks. It looks old to me, but some people think it is modern. Is there something wrong with me? 😂
The infotainment is pretty ancient by modern standards in the Corolla Cross. The new system is in the new Tundra, and will eventually trickle down... but it will take a couple years. Thanks for watching. 😀
Rust buckets that’s what they are the Subaru. The entire body and underneath of the vehicule will rust and brake in half. There is Subaru that are so rusted that they can’t be lifted because they will break in half. Lol 😂 Garbage I had a few Subaru and now just Toyota for a higher quality total.
@@breakingballswithtony6897 been enjoying my boredom in my Toyota for almost half a million miles...lol do that in a subaru n after 10k in doing the head gaskets 4 times no thanks. I like subaru til 100k but Toyota for life ftw
I just bought a 2023 subaru crosstrek 3wks ago and it texas we just had a sleet and freezing rain storm I didn't have any problems on the icey roads never spun my tires I did test drive the toyota cross I liked it but I didn't like the ride as much as the crosstrek the cross is a good looking cross over great video thank u
Nice test, really enjoy your videos, best on youtube IMO. The Corolla Cross is OK in the lower trims, but at over 30k for a loaded one, there is simply too much competition. Kona Ultimate, CX-30 (close to CX-30 turbo price), Bronco Sport, and of course the Crosstrek with the 2.5L engine. For the price of your test vehicle, you could even move up to the next class: CX-5, CRV, RAV-4, Forrester.
Yes, here in SoCal, they want a bit over 36,000 for a Cross XLE. I am now hesitating. Would the base Rav 4 be a "better" bet? I can't go more than that financially. Any thoughts?
Ryan, a very interesting opinion. I must admit that I experienced your driving in the snow as if I was sitting behind the wheel of this Toyota myself, remembering the winters in Europe of the 1960s. Today I greet you from Australia where winter snow is only in the mountains in winter.
I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021. Great video quality as well!
@@bigfootswatching9986 I got a premium. I wanted the manual and that was only available on base and premium models. Loving it though! Just hit 100 miles yesterday
I used to have a 1979 Subaru Brat. The smallest truck ever made. It didn't have a lot of power, but it was very light. It had a manual transmission with a shift-on-the-fly 4 wheel drive. It was a very capable off-road vehicle that could navigate through stream beds and rough trails. I think it's short wheel base and light weight contributed to the Subaru Brat's ability to keep up with Jeeps.
Great choice for a comparison :) somehow you keep the good content rolling out. You’ve gone up my list of favorite car channels over the last couple months to be definitely top tier.
I was going to get the Crosstrek over the Cross but decided against it for Subaru doesn't want to sell it to me MSRP and has a markup of over $5000. I just went ahead and ordered a Corolla cross and I got it at MSRP. Cross is bigger than Crosstrek too which I prefer.
Plus Toyota’s run for 500,000 miles + , while none of my 2 subarus passed 200,000 miles. My wife had a 1st gen RAV4 with 325,000 miles and she sold it 7 years ago, and the old lady who bought it still drivers every day.
@@michaelsmith9308 they are pretty optimistic with Subaru lasting 200k miles 😂. The boxer engine design isn’t very practical for maintenance neither. I can do a timing belt service on a Toyota at any parking lot with basic tools. Stick with Toyota
@@devil2jz500 what subaru have you owned I am comparing between the corolla cross and subaru crosstrek.. I am afraid from the weakness sheet metal of the toyota. It got dings very easily ..even the bumbers are not solid fitted and easily got disassembled from the car if got a small hit . How about the subaru solidity ?
@@amrashraf9559 I owned a Forester and an Impreza. I have at least 20 friends who owned Subarus and they all either blew a head gasket or a rod through the block. Subarus are fun, but not reliable. I currently have a Corolla with almost 300,000 miles and still running like new. After I saw 2 Tundras with 1,000,000 miles and a Tacoma with 650,000 miles I only buy Toyota.
There were a lot of rumours in Europe about Toyota Corolla Cross and new Suzuki S-Cross being twins. After all, "new generation" of S-Cross appeared to be just a deep FL, which luckily kept its All Grip Select awd system, working much better than this one from Corolla Cross.
Suzuki had an AWD/4WD hatchback years ago...SX4, since about 2008. The center could lock, it had TCS, EBD, and VSC. Aftermarket support grew enough to provide suspensions, turbos, exhausts, intakes, skids, winchmounts, and LSDs. Then Suzuki Automotive left North America.
@@RKmndo They replaced SX4 by SX4 S-Cross, which now is called simply S-Cross. But this car is bigger than SX4 was. Current Vitara is similar size to SX4 (the same wheelbase).
Lots of auto journalism type TH-cam channels out there. This is one of the best. What works: little hype and drama. Well written. Great photography. I really appreciate the videography from the outside taken of the vehicles. Haven't seen the host pawning products. Just good tv.
I am thinking about leasing a new Crosstrek, never owned a Subaru but I have to say, every review I have seen about this vehicle is impressive. It comes in at a good price point and has plenty of the features that I would want. Great review btw.
I’m actually surprised it did so well. It’s certainly not an “adventure vehicle”. However if you have snow on the parking lot of Starbucks, you might be able to get out.
We just purchased a loaded Cross xle awd last weekend and are preping for a trip up mountains so this particular test was perfect for our upcoming trip! Definitely showed us this beauty's limitations in snow ice n mountain driving difficulties. Test results abit disappointing but we still recommend the new toyota cross because of all other fantastic features that come with our new $30k suv purchase! nice job👍
Great review, have a 21 crosstrek sport also. Put a LP lift kit and some KO2’s on it. Haven’t tried it off road yet and no measurable snow but seeing how your Sport did I have no worries and am looking forward to giving it a trial.
I got KO2's for my FJ and they were the worst tires I've ever owned. They had the worst wet traction, worst snow traction, and squealed on dry roads. I took the loss and got the new Bridgestone Duelers with half the tread left on the KO2’s and my wife will actually drive the car again.
We are a Toyota family, Tundra, Tacoma, FJ, Corollas, 4runner, we have them all. we do however own a 2020 Subaru STI, the awd on that car is just incredible, If I fail to mention this mention this, it is a fun car to drive.
@@devil2jz500 Absolutely put the right tires for specific situation you would get he results you want. But "they only test with the tires it came with". Understandable but its not apples to apples. Put a car in the environment that it was made for then it will shine.
The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are a very highly rated and has a snow peak symbol on the tire. And it's a tire you don't have to change every season.
Corolla Cross looks great. Nothing against Subarus but after having Corolla alltracs and Tercel 4wds I am looking forward to the Hybrid version coming to the market here in Australia.
The hybrid CC should definitely be an improvement, both in performance and fuel economy. Could be very attractive if the price is reasonable. As for appearance, it is a matter of taste, but I think the Crosstrek looks much better than the Corolla Cross. I just cant get past that huge grille. It looks like a giant catfish gasping for air.
@@edsmith9855 to be honest. I really like Subarus but I feel the hatch styling makes the rear seat and load space to small. I agree the grille is a bit much but the rest of it looks really good.
You can donate a corolla cross to driving sports tv and they can make that comparison. Car manufacturers explicitly prohibit changing tires on press fleet vehicles.
Thanks again for these relevant and timely videos. I'm really hoping you get the Grand Cherokee PHEV soon as that's on my list of consideration. Appreciate your channel and driving real cars most of us can afford.
Best car review channel, by far. You deserve a million sub's, hope you get there. Seen a Corolla Cross on the road the other day, and it looks great. I just wonder if people will cry out loud that the Corolla Cross is dangerously under powered, and is a death trap. Just like they do to Subaru's. Or, will the mighty Toyota be praised for being slow, economical and a responsible vehicle for safe drivers. Lets see how they spin it. I'll keep buying Subaru's.
Was going to trade my daughters Corolla IM in for a Corolla Cross XLE. Did the math and realized shitty acceleration and CVT and more that 30k . Ended up with a Rav4 for a few grand more.
Actually in the same boat, got a Scion Im after my Toyota Matrix got hit, was looking at the Cross as a next vehicle but now looking at the Rav4 hybrid.
As much as I despise SUVs, we just ordered a Corolla Cross FWD XLE in Cypress Green for my wife (our 2012 Mazda5 with 215k miles, is starting to incur expensive repairs. It was a FANTASTIC car though). The practicality, predicted reliability, and roomy backseats for our kids were too tempting to pass up. Like most buyers, ours will never leave pavement and winters are mild here in NC. We chose the XLE trim because our kids would destroy a cloth interior and for the middle armrest in the backseat. We paid $30k out the door. We considered moving up to the RAV4, but a similarly equipped (not base) model is roughly $5k more. Looking forward to receiving it in approximately 60 days.
I agree with your analytical analysis, and opinions on this Video. It seems to be very objective and fair and not to bias considering you have a Subaru. Thank You! good job!
After owning a forester for the last 8 years from new I would go Toyota every time. Yes the foz is fun to drive but way too many things have gone wrong with it for a car with under 50k miles. Toyotas won’t give you the wow factor but as far as reliability and warranty claims Toyota can’t be beat. I would buy the Corolla cross in a heartbeat over the cross trek.
Okay, I am actually impressed.. With CRAPPY tires.. Well Done, Ryan.. Glad it's a Toyota (Usually over built). PS: Yes, Subaru does have a better awd system..
This is literally exactly what I wanted, to see how the Toyota does on our local forest roads. That and how comfortable it is to sleep in after price and MPG are the most important factors for me in buying a car. Maybe I will see you on a trail one of these days!!
@@BaldKiwi117 the average new car buyer gets a new vehicle every 5-6 years. Re-sale value certainly plays an important factor when determining total cost of ownership to these people.
So now that I've watched it I thought about waiting on purchasing a Crosstrek until these hit dealer lots. I've owned two Toyotas and like most people highly value the practicality and minimal need for repairs. Despite the Corolla cross looking super plain and already dated to me styling-wise I could easily have leaned that way, what held me back was the weak motor lower ground clearance and impression that the Crosstrek would be more capable off road. I do hiking and nature photography frequently so that's important to me. Nice to see my impressions were pretty accurate. With a few tweaks Toyota could have made this a Crosstrek killer but I think this while solid falls a little short. I think it'll be popular with families and older folks and nothing wrong with that.
I’ve had the Crosstrek Sport since Oct 2020. While it’s 99% my daily driver, I have taken it to Yosemite, Sequoia National Park, Mammoth Lakes area, and to the snow at a local mountain area in So Cal. Last year when I went to Sequoia National Park, the car was fully loaded with 4 adult passengers along with 1 week’s worth of baggage and food and we traversed above 9,000 feet on the highway. I was pleased that I went with the bigger engine so I recommend you go with the sport or limited trim if your budget permits. I have not had any concerns negotiating dirt (even on small hills), rain, or snow. I made my choice, I was deciding among Rav4 Hybrid, Crosstrek, and Mazda CX-5 AWD. The Rav4 Hybrid has more overall horsepower and better fuel economy while the CX-5 AWD is more spacious but similar power; I went with the more capable softroad vehicle and although I’m never going to do any serious off-roading, it is more than adequate for my needs. Ryan’s review of his wife’s Crosstrek Sport influenced my decision. The only change I will consider is if Subaru offers a Crosstrek Wilderness edition; if not, I may go with the Forrester Wilderness.
@@vitor2650 Nice comparison of the Rav4 hybrid, CX5, and the Crosstrek. I'm curious, did you considered the Forester? If so, why did you decide on the Crosstrek instead? I'm looking to get one of these - leaning towards the Crosstrek at the moment.
I really appreciate good video quality and with more and more videos just being shot on Gopro I really appreciate the sharpness that comes from your videos
Hey Ryan, would love to see you review the Hybrid version of the Corolla Cross to see if it's really more refined and faster, if that's a possibility down the road.
I got a few Subaru the main problem we have with the Subaru is RUST. There is no paint on these cars. The maintenance is costly compare to a Toyota. The paint of the Toyota is much better and resist to the rust. I would go with the Toyota anytime.
It kind of seems to me like the cross track is a bit underpowered for those hills that are a bit steeper and also pose traction issues. If you’re not doing a lot of off Roading that might require increased ground clearance and engine power, a Toyota Corolla cross might be a good option for someone looking for an affordable way to get about town when the weather gets nasty.
"Toyota buyers are going to buy Toyota products". That right there sums up this video, basically, this is a more expensive Crosstrek (not quite as capable of course), and created for the Toyota brand fans that wanted something similar.
Enjoy your channel. I remember seeing a video in which you were driving your 1991? Subaru Legacy? It would be great to see a track day or rally with your car.
@@mrjon75 I live close to the border, and back before we had kids, my wife and I would try and discover the areas from Blaine down to Arlington. Really miss those days, and it the novelty has never worn off over the years. Pre-covid, I went down to b'ham literally every weekend not just for gas and groceries, but to enjoy some of the neat restaurants/cafes around the surrounding area
The Corolla Cross is a shockingly uncharismatic vehicle. I was pretty surprised by how bland it looks. I don't doubt it's durable and capable, but this already looks ready for a refreshed next generation.
I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021.
Ryan, It may not help ultimate traction but I am still hoping the Cross's Hybrid system is sourced from the RAV4 rather than the UX. At prices like this, an upgrade in performance is thoroughly warranted. In regard to the Crosstrek, a sale that goes to Subaru still ends with 25% of the money going in Toyota's pocket. If someone buys a Corolla Cross, Toyota gets more money but they have to go through the bother of actually building a car . 😉
I chose the Corolla Cross because they were in stock and I wanted something with great reliability and fuel economy, and I liked the way it handled more and the interior seemed nicer to me.
Many car manufacturers still don't understand. Nobody likes an Ipad sticked on the dash! Build something that looks nicely integrated like Subaru does.
Great review, I think they are two different all wheel drive systems and one thing the Cross will have is bulletproof reliability. It will probably last a very long time. Maybe 2 decades if rust proof with oil base coating.
@@Thankyou_3 Yes. My daughter had a Forester bought new. I wasn''t impressed by the mechanical reliability. Auto transmission completely blew out while under warranty. Subaru gave her a complete new one. Also problems with cam timing, air conditioning, alternator. She ditched it at about 100,000 miles. I've owned Toyotas past 37 years and satisfied with their reliability. Unlike Fords and GM's I used to own.
@@toma5153 Yes. I agree. I bought an Outback new in 2019 and was disappointed in its reliability--cracked windshield, fuel pump failure--and in Subaru's denials there was an issue. They've lost class-action suits prior to 2019 on the windshields and finally recalled their fuel pump on the Outback in 2020. Does anyone remember the Corolla wagon? I never understood why they discontinued it. All the same reliability as the Corolla sedan and lots more space. The Cross attracts me as a way to finally get the old wagon back!
Great balanced review. It seemed as if the wheel articulation might be a limiting factor the Corolla Cross (words I never thought I’d say) lifted its rear wheel when he turned the small bump caused the rear wheel to lift
Obviously. Toyota usually has excellent traction control. My highlander 2016, would do off road park stuff. Only climbs limited by the all season tires would limit it. New vehicles are extremely sorry for capabilities. The drive trains are the same, the brakes are the same. It’s all limited by the software. You could flash that Corolla and it would well.
@@johnmadsen37 I love those highlanders! A guy out in AZ trails and modded his!! I agree I was hoping because it has a CVT and is “similar” to a trek aka Toyota owns part of Subaru the performance would be similar. The hybrid Rav AWD mapping is horrible… it could probably be a beast but the computer limits it…
Locking diffs counter limited articulation quite a bit. Toyota needs to add a button for locking/clamping the center diff. TRD could also bring in more customers and revenue by offering a rear locker, some underbody armor, and a winchmount for off-road enthusiasts. SUPPORT YOUR CUVs, TOYOTA! There are more customers and money to be made! TCS is no substitute for traction diffs. Siped mudders help too.
I wish Subaru built something with at least a 7k tow capacity, I'd replace my Explorer LOL. The more I watch videos with you taking the Subaru Crosstrek Sport into conditions I'd need to go when going camping, I certainly think the Subaru would suit me great for a lot of stuff, just that towing issue keeps me from getting rid of my Explorer right now...new Explorers don't have the towing capacity, and are lacking a few cylinders as well. The prices of SUV's today are completely absurd for most of us.
@@Croiseeman MPG is a killer on almost anything that will tow 7K lb. An Ecodiesel Gladiator or Ram 1500 might be the only exceptions. I can get 22-23MPG with a 5.7L 4WD crewcab Tundra, but I still consider that a gas-hog.
I watched this video a couple times. And I noticed that when he was doing the same section that the Toyota was in being that he owned the car he was more aggressive with it so there was a little bias. He didn’t want to hurt a brand new car he charged a little bit with the Subaru And the Subaru was a little more use of the throttle as you could tell from different camera angles from the wheel spin. Again it was lighter on the Toyota than the Subaru because he didn’t want to hurt and pay for damage on a new car.
The simple fact of the matter is that most SUVs and Crossovers on the market are FWD that have a 4WD system just for marketing purposes. Subaru’s symmetrical AWD is an actual AWD system and that can be clearly seen in this video regardless of tires. If you want to be able to go anywhere then buy a car with a real AWD or 4WD system and invest in tires for what you will be using the car for.
What would be interesting to see is the difference between 2WD and 4WD corolla cross, how much that 4WD actually helps compared to same car with just 2WD
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"Any car can do any course... once."
That was a great quote. I like it.
Upgraded quote: “Any car can do any course…once-especially downhill.”
Or any rental…
They will take you as far as they can.....the end.
I have owned a number of AWD Toyota's and Subarus. They are good enough to keep you moving under most road conditions, but not for actual off-road use. The Cross with no-season tires did remarkably well in that deep snow.
I call them 3 season tires.
Subaru vehicles tend to do well, besides extreme off-road stuff but that's where you'll get a jeep/bronco/4runner not a Subaru lol
their awd system is fairly advanced vs competitor like we see here where it outperformed Toyota
@@octoslut Subaru tends to kill the competition in snow and ice because their system is NOT advanced. The center differential is a simple fluid coupling that predates WW1. It doesn't turn on and off, it's on all the time, it's always working. Vehicles like the Honda CRV were notorious for sucking because they would be FWD until slip is detected, and then complicated fuckery would try to engage the rear wheels, and it would always be done in the most half-assed way possible.
Similarly, sports cars have excellent limited slip differentials that are purely mechanical. There's no lag because there's nothing to turn on - it's always on.
@@shawn576 Thanks for the info. I was considering purchasing a Corolla eAWD hybrid and from what you mentioned, it's exactly the same thing as the Honda. Not going to work in the northeastern US. I will see if there is an option for decent snow tires but if not, not going to bother. Thanks once again
So many of his videos are worthless because he's using OEM junk tires. He should use AT and/or winter tires.
All I know, is that the traction control in my wifes Legacy just seems to make all 4 wheels spin pretty evenly when backing out my steep driveway with 6" of snow without a hiccup. For a sedan, it's a beast in the winter. I really think Subaru has one of the best AWD systems on the market.
man im impressed with subaru and not to brag but 6” nothing my subaru outback ate 13” of snow
I took my crosstrek through 3 feet of powder in my parking lot after a storm ,it went through it with ease ,it helped having pavement underneath me but I was still impressed!
Subaru symetrical AWD makes car hovering like UFO on heavy snow road,... I love drive my 2017 6 speed Legacy in narrow mountain road when nobody wants to go outside.
2021 Subaru crosstrek owner here 🙋🏻♀️
Yes, I so liking it!
Good choice
I just got a Crosstrek Sport last month and I am loving the car.
Until u blow a head gasket lol no thanks
I've had my Crosstrek for about a year now and I love it. No complaints.
@@SacredSleeper hey. Mechanic and Crosstrek owner here. You don't know what you're talking about.
I just borrowed my friend’s crosstreck to drive up the Catskills mountains,loved the handling ,ride nice climate control,was very impressed.I own a civic ,so it’s like night and day,but my civic has gotten me everywhere,just not as smoothly!😁
@@SacredSleeper lol, your knowledge is about a decade+ behind.
Subaru does have the best AWD system. I would rather drive a Subaru if there's snow and rough roads. I do think that if Toyota had better tires it may have done better.
my mom has a 2011 matrix 2.4 with fwd and its amazing in snow. she just ordered one of these, we didn't get awd because i believe as long as you have winter tires it should do well also.
I like that you cover more important espacts that other journalists are afraid to even try. All wheel drive is one thing that we rarely see being tested so soon after a launch of a vehicle. Your experience and recommendations are very valuable to someone thinking of buying a new vehicle. Some of us care more about what's underneath then all the leather coverings and how big the screen on the vehicle is.
Think I would prefer the Subaru.
Gotta say, you guys make the cleanest videos in car review segment. Love it and very much appreciate all the effort. Being from BC myself definitely know the weather struggle.
You must love ICBC too
Picked up my Crosstrek Sport today. Took three months to get one but glade to say it happened. Hope I like it. The first hundred miles driving home from the dealer was nice.
Great choice
How are you liking it now? I'm waiting to pick up my 2023 limited in a few weeks!
Subaru has the best awd systems! However tires make a big difference.
Absolutely! Tires make a drastic difference. I saw it first hand in my 2016 Forester.
Subaru does not have the best AWD systems LOL
@@Toyota4Life
Better than Toyota’s AWD system. Toyota/Lexus by far has one of the weakest AWD systems out there.
4WD system on the other hand is top notch.
Remember AWD and 4WD are NOT THE SAME
Subaru has really bad engines lately.
@@HOTPLATEGAMING Lmdao dude. I would take a tundra TRD pro or 4 runner TRD pro. Or even a GR Yaris rally. Over any Subaru on sale ANY. Subaru only makes me one decent car away. Have a good day lol
I bought our 14 XV Crosstrek brand new and still loving it. I’m still driving my 93 Impreza every where.
Subaru just simply has the best AWD for the price.
As much off roading as I do, I can tell you that with all due respect, the AT tires that Subaru has is an unfair advantage and from what I saw, did make a difference. Tires are basically always a major factor in any driving situations where grip is a concern. In the end, I'd like to see you swap tires and repeat the test.
AWD is ok, although I still think Subaru's is better. Main weakness is that it clearly needs a more powerful engine, especially in the more expensive trim levels.
@@edsmith9855 I would be going for the Rav4 Hybrid so a larger engine wouldn't interest me. I hear you on the Subaru having a better AWD but come to find out that may not be the case any more. Check out some of the testing they do and you'll find that the Rav4 is coming out ahead and has in every recent video I've seen.
@@generalcaeser9176 I was talking about Crosstrek vs Corolla Cross specifically in regards to Subaru having a better AWD system. Some Toyota models do have very good AWD systems.
@@edsmith9855 Oh, I see. At first I was seriously considering those but then realized I really need more ground clearence with the amount of snow we get up north here.
@@JungleLoveOeOeO I felt that way for 25 years but there are just too many recent videos showing differently. I've owned loads of Subaru's and they are amazing but I've found them less reliable than Toyota's are. So I really like what I see on these new tests as it gives us both off road capability and better reliability.
The biggest thing with the Corolla cross that people are forgetting is….it’s a Corolla. Nothing flashy, just a standard car that’s perfect for the beginning drivers or just as a reliable daily commuter. As a Corolla owner myself of 8 years, this got me so excited but it’s sadly time to move on to bigger and better options. Maybe if I have the extra money I’d buy it for fun but who knows
Keep in mind the Crosstrek is also just an Impreza. They're both based on normal sedans.
@@gelatinous6915exactly! It's basically a lifted impreza. A nice awd package for someone who doesn't want an suv but wants more ground clearance.
Have the AWD Cross, it has been great on the back desert dirt roads & mud, proper tires do make a difference. The Cross on dirt roads is highly underrated...
And this proves my point about that TFL Outback video... they didn't drive the Outback properly. It was essentially the same obstacle as this one, but they failed whereas you succeeded. I really appreciate the truthfulness and unbiased testing.
TFL has beef against subaru, that’s why they purposely give negative reviews on Subaru vehicles….they hate Subaru so much that they actually buy Subaru vehicles just to talk shit on them…..
Yeah I would absolutely take the Crosstrek over that seeing how good they are in snow for the average person.
Amazing in the snow. I was scooting up a hill in the CO mountains during a blizzard once while Audi's and Jeeps were pulled over or spinning out. Stock tires too.
I just bought a 2022 crosstrek limited
I bought a 2021 Subaru Forester last year and it's been a great purchase. Why do I keep watching your videos if I have no intention of buying a new car? Well, they're just fun to watch. And when you bring your Crosstrek in for the fun of it, it adds a layer of depth to the video (and for me, something to root for 😬). Great job with this Toyota.
P.S. I love the gauge cluster on the Toyota, but I hate the way the infotainment system looks. It looks old to me, but some people think it is modern. Is there something wrong with me? 😂
The infotainment is pretty ancient by modern standards in the Corolla Cross. The new system is in the new Tundra, and will eventually trickle down... but it will take a couple years. Thanks for watching. 😀
Same here
Rust buckets that’s what they are the Subaru. The entire body and underneath of the vehicule will rust and brake in half. There is Subaru that are so rusted that they can’t be lifted because they will break in half. Lol 😂 Garbage I had a few Subaru and now just Toyota for a higher quality total.
@@1974gladiateur Toyota is boring and just like we just watched you'll be bored and stuck. Good luck!!
@@breakingballswithtony6897 been enjoying my boredom in my Toyota for almost half a million miles...lol do that in a subaru n after 10k in doing the head gaskets 4 times no thanks. I like subaru til 100k but Toyota for life ftw
I just bought a 2023 subaru crosstrek 3wks ago and it texas we just had a sleet and freezing rain storm I didn't have any problems on the icey roads never spun my tires I did test drive the toyota cross I liked it but I didn't like the ride as much as the crosstrek the cross is a good looking cross over great video thank u
Nice test, really enjoy your videos, best on youtube IMO. The Corolla Cross is OK in the lower trims, but at over 30k for a loaded one, there is simply too much competition. Kona Ultimate, CX-30 (close to CX-30 turbo price), Bronco Sport, and of course the Crosstrek with the 2.5L engine. For the price of your test vehicle, you could even move up to the next class: CX-5, CRV, RAV-4, Forrester.
Yes, here in SoCal, they want a bit over 36,000 for a Cross XLE. I am now hesitating. Would the base Rav 4 be a "better" bet? I can't go more than that financially. Any thoughts?
Ryan, a very interesting opinion. I must admit that I experienced your driving in the snow as if I was sitting behind the wheel of this Toyota myself, remembering the winters in Europe of the 1960s. Today I greet you from Australia where winter snow is only in the mountains in winter.
love your stuff... i just bought a Crosstrek today.
This is the best TH-cam channel ever. Between you, Car Question, Engine Adventures and TFL I'm getting most of my answers.
I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021. Great video quality as well!
Buy the Crosstrek sport!~!
@@bigfootswatching9986 I got a premium. I wanted the manual and that was only available on base and premium models. Loving it though! Just hit 100 miles yesterday
I used to have a 1979 Subaru Brat. The smallest truck ever made. It didn't have a lot of power, but it was very light. It had a manual transmission with a shift-on-the-fly 4 wheel drive. It was a very capable off-road vehicle that could navigate through stream beds and rough trails. I think it's short wheel base and light weight contributed to the Subaru Brat's ability to keep up with Jeeps.
I have an 85 brat. Great for roaming around the mountains but lacked power on the freeway
Great choice for a comparison :) somehow you keep the good content rolling out. You’ve gone up my list of favorite car channels over the last couple months to be definitely top tier.
I was going to get the Crosstrek over the Cross but decided against it for Subaru doesn't want to sell it to me MSRP and has a markup of over $5000. I just went ahead and ordered a Corolla cross and I got it at MSRP. Cross is bigger than Crosstrek too which I prefer.
Plus Toyota’s run for 500,000 miles + , while none of my 2 subarus passed 200,000 miles.
My wife had a 1st gen RAV4 with 325,000 miles and she sold it 7 years ago, and the old lady who bought it still drivers every day.
@@devil2jz500 yes, i googled it and crosstreks are good for 200,000 miles while toyotas are good for over one million miles!
@@michaelsmith9308 they are pretty optimistic with Subaru lasting 200k miles 😂. The boxer engine design isn’t very practical for maintenance neither. I can do a timing belt service on a Toyota at any parking lot with basic tools. Stick with Toyota
@@devil2jz500 what subaru have you owned
I am comparing between the corolla cross and subaru crosstrek..
I am afraid from the weakness sheet metal of the toyota. It got dings very easily ..even the bumbers are not solid fitted and easily got disassembled from the car if got a small hit . How about the subaru solidity ?
@@amrashraf9559 I owned a Forester and an Impreza. I have at least 20 friends who owned Subarus and they all either blew a head gasket or a rod through the block. Subarus are fun, but not reliable. I currently have a Corolla with almost 300,000 miles and still running like new. After I saw 2 Tundras with 1,000,000 miles and a Tacoma with 650,000 miles I only buy Toyota.
There were a lot of rumours in Europe about Toyota Corolla Cross and new Suzuki S-Cross being twins. After all, "new generation" of S-Cross appeared to be just a deep FL, which luckily kept its All Grip Select awd system, working much better than this one from Corolla Cross.
Suzuki had an AWD/4WD hatchback years ago...SX4, since about 2008. The center could lock, it had TCS, EBD, and VSC. Aftermarket support grew enough to provide suspensions, turbos, exhausts, intakes, skids, winchmounts, and LSDs. Then Suzuki Automotive left North America.
I love your videos, friend!!!!
@@RKmndo They replaced SX4 by SX4 S-Cross, which now is called simply S-Cross. But this car is bigger than SX4 was. Current Vitara is similar size to SX4 (the same wheelbase).
@@sleeksilver Thank you very much!
Lots of auto journalism type TH-cam channels out there. This is one of the best. What works: little hype and drama. Well written. Great photography. I really appreciate the videography from the outside taken of the vehicles. Haven't seen the host pawning products. Just good tv.
I am thinking about leasing a new Crosstrek, never owned a Subaru but I have to say, every review I have seen about this vehicle is impressive. It comes in at a good price point and has plenty of the features that I would want. Great review btw.
Subaru's AWD system is unmatched
@@fredharvey2720 Unless its a Audi Quattro.
Have a 2018 crosstrek, first Subaru, absolutely a freak in the snow, when it snows its the only car we drive. Great car
2016 cross trek lifted 1 inch with bfg at tires. Beast in the snow even though it’s only 148 hp.
I’m actually surprised it did so well. It’s certainly not an “adventure vehicle”. However if you have snow on the parking lot of Starbucks, you might be able to get out.
Surprised too
@Stuffstuffington Stuff you won't see me in my Cross at a Starbucks 🤮
Ya Corolla n starbucks makes a giggle!
We just purchased a loaded Cross xle awd last weekend and are preping for a trip up mountains so this particular test was perfect for our upcoming trip! Definitely showed us this beauty's limitations in snow ice n mountain driving difficulties. Test results abit disappointing but we still recommend the new toyota cross because of all other fantastic features that come with our new $30k suv purchase! nice job👍
Pls tell me how was that trip. I want to buy exact same model as you for road trips with ligth offroad. I would prefer a rav4 but is out of my budget.
Great review, have a 21 crosstrek sport also. Put a LP lift kit and some KO2’s on it. Haven’t tried it off road yet and no measurable snow but seeing how your Sport did I have no worries and am looking forward to giving it a trial.
I got KO2's for my FJ and they were the worst tires I've ever owned. They had the worst wet traction, worst snow traction, and squealed on dry roads. I took the loss and got the new Bridgestone Duelers with half the tread left on the KO2’s and my wife will actually drive the car again.
We are a Toyota family, Tundra, Tacoma, FJ, Corollas, 4runner, we have them all. we do however own a 2020 Subaru STI, the awd on that car is just incredible, If I fail to mention this mention this, it is a fun car to drive.
16:50 - three wheels spinning, fourth doing nothing due to grip/resistance it has. Many people consider such situation as impossible to happen 😉
You're my go to when it comes to AWD tests and explanations. Thank you for all your videos!
@@erikskallevold2080 Thanks!
I’m sure the different tires played a lot in this video, even though he denies it. The Toyota needed better tires for that little hill.
@@devil2jz500 On snow - of course they did. On hill (diagonal test) - they didn't.
@@devil2jz500 Absolutely put the right tires for specific situation you would get he results you want. But "they only test with the tires it came with". Understandable but its not apples to apples. Put a car in the environment that it was made for then it will shine.
The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are a very highly rated and has a snow peak symbol on the tire. And it's a tire you don't have to change every season.
YEP
Corolla Cross looks great. Nothing against Subarus but after having Corolla alltracs and Tercel 4wds I am looking forward to the Hybrid version coming to the market here in Australia.
The hybrid CC should definitely be an improvement, both in performance and fuel economy. Could be very attractive if the price is reasonable. As for appearance, it is a matter of taste, but I think the Crosstrek looks much better than the Corolla Cross. I just cant get past that huge grille. It looks like a giant catfish gasping for air.
Taiwan has Cc hybrid, not sure Australia will get it or not
@@cacabeauty3693 there has been talk of them releasing it here as hybrids make up around 40% of Toyotas sold here
@@edsmith9855 to be honest. I really like Subarus but I feel the hatch styling makes the rear seat and load space to small. I agree the grille is a bit much but the rest of it looks really good.
Love your channel. It's why I grabbed a 21 Subaru crosstrek touring. It's been great
I’d like to see more comparisons done featuring the same tires on both vehicles. I feel that would truly show how 2 vehicles compare.
agree
Agree
Why do they waste all of our time with this halfa** attempt at a comparison.
You can donate a corolla cross to driving sports tv and they can make that comparison. Car manufacturers explicitly prohibit changing tires on press fleet vehicles.
@@blegi1245 TFL cars does this.
I think with winter tires that will be no problem to do it.Thank you for your reviews. keep those coming!!!!
Thanks again for these relevant and timely videos. I'm really hoping you get the Grand Cherokee PHEV soon as that's on my list of consideration. Appreciate your channel and driving real cars most of us can afford.
I've owned 7 Subarus. Currently have a 2023 Outback. Subaru's AWD is second to none.
Best car review channel, by far. You deserve a million sub's, hope you get there.
Seen a Corolla Cross on the road the other day, and it looks great. I just wonder if people will cry out loud that the Corolla Cross is dangerously under powered, and is a death trap. Just like they do to Subaru's. Or, will the mighty Toyota be praised for being slow, economical and a responsible vehicle for safe drivers. Lets see how they spin it.
I'll keep buying Subaru's.
I'd buy a Subaru too if I had about 10,000 more to spend.
How is the cross a death trap?
The more I watch your videos of comparisons, the more it confirms my purchase of going with the Subaru Forester Wilderness.
I just love these videos!!! All of this is millions of views content! Everyone should watch these videos before buying any of these cars
This video was exactly what I needed to see. I have a 2017 Terrain AWD with no extra drive modes and it does what you have shown the Cross can do
I’d love to see the same all season tires on the Subaru for a true comparison apples to apples! Tires make an incredible difference.
Agreed... Huge difference between all SEASON and all TERRAIN!
Was going to trade my daughters Corolla IM in for a Corolla Cross XLE. Did the math and realized shitty acceleration and CVT and more that 30k . Ended up with a Rav4 for a few grand more.
Actually in the same boat, got a Scion Im after my Toyota Matrix got hit, was looking at the Cross as a next vehicle but now looking at the Rav4 hybrid.
I am considering buying a CC XLE, but I really can't go up to a Rav XLE financially. How are the seats in a base on mid trim Rav? Thank you!
I can assure you that you can’t compare the 2 systems. Subaru is a top contender while Toyota is in the middle.
Well said
Subaru always. I have 2 subaru forester and there are awesome in off-road snow or mud
Wow. I came for the review. Stayed for the driving tips. Canadian winters are awful. Thanks for this video!
You know your videos are great when I'm riveted watching you review a car I have zero interest in buying
Thanks for the video, I've been waiting for this one.
As much as I despise SUVs, we just ordered a Corolla Cross FWD XLE in Cypress Green for my wife (our 2012 Mazda5 with 215k miles, is starting to incur expensive repairs. It was a FANTASTIC car though). The practicality, predicted reliability, and roomy backseats for our kids were too tempting to pass up.
Like most buyers, ours will never leave pavement and winters are mild here in NC. We chose the XLE trim because our kids would destroy a cloth interior and for the middle armrest in the backseat.
We paid $30k out the door. We considered moving up to the RAV4, but a similarly equipped (not base) model is roughly $5k more.
Looking forward to receiving it in approximately 60 days.
I agree with your analytical analysis, and opinions on this Video. It seems to be very objective and fair and not to bias considering you have a Subaru. Thank You! good job!
Awesome unbiased review. Love watching your videos!
A another snow test😀 keep em
coming! Brilliant as always.
Haha been waiting for this !! Awesome
I own a Crosstrek so I'm not an impartial viewer lol
After owning a forester for the last 8 years from new I would go Toyota every time. Yes the foz is fun to drive but way too many things have gone wrong with it for a car with under 50k miles. Toyotas won’t give you the wow factor but as far as reliability and warranty claims Toyota can’t be beat. I would buy the Corolla cross in a heartbeat over the cross trek.
Okay, I am actually impressed.. With CRAPPY tires.. Well Done, Ryan.. Glad it's a Toyota (Usually over built).
PS: Yes, Subaru does have a better awd system..
This is literally exactly what I wanted, to see how the Toyota does on our local forest roads. That and how comfortable it is to sleep in after price and MPG are the most important factors for me in buying a car. Maybe I will see you on a trail one of these days!!
@Patrick Bertlein when it comes to price, you have to consider re-sale value too. The Crosstrek is best in class in that regard.
@@steve8803I don't think resale value is high on the list unless you don't keep your vehicles for very long.
@@BaldKiwi117 the average new car buyer gets a new vehicle every 5-6 years. Re-sale value certainly plays an important factor when determining total cost of ownership to these people.
@@steve8803 hence why I said it depends on how long you keep your vehicle... My last vehicle was purchased new and kept for 12 years.
@@BaldKiwi117 you're an outlier.
Definition of a quality made video!
So now that I've watched it
I thought about waiting on purchasing a Crosstrek until these hit dealer lots. I've owned two Toyotas and like most people highly value the practicality and minimal need for repairs.
Despite the Corolla cross looking super plain and already dated to me styling-wise I could easily have leaned that way, what held me back was the weak motor lower ground clearance and impression that the Crosstrek would be more capable off road. I do hiking and nature photography frequently so that's important to me.
Nice to see my impressions were pretty accurate. With a few tweaks Toyota could have made this a Crosstrek killer but I think this while solid falls a little short. I think it'll be popular with families and older folks and nothing wrong with that.
I’ve had the Crosstrek Sport since Oct 2020. While it’s 99% my daily driver, I have taken it to Yosemite, Sequoia National Park, Mammoth Lakes area, and to the snow at a local mountain area in So Cal. Last year when I went to Sequoia National Park, the car was fully loaded with 4 adult passengers along with 1 week’s worth of baggage and food and we traversed above 9,000 feet on the highway. I was pleased that I went with the bigger engine so I recommend you go with the sport or limited trim if your budget permits. I have not had any concerns negotiating dirt (even on small hills), rain, or snow. I made my choice, I was deciding among Rav4 Hybrid, Crosstrek, and Mazda CX-5 AWD. The Rav4 Hybrid has more overall horsepower and better fuel economy while the CX-5 AWD is more spacious but similar power; I went with the more capable softroad vehicle and although I’m never going to do any serious off-roading, it is more than adequate for my needs. Ryan’s review of his wife’s Crosstrek Sport influenced my decision. The only change I will consider is if Subaru offers a Crosstrek Wilderness edition; if not, I may go with the Forrester Wilderness.
@@vitor2650 good synopsis. I've had the Crosstrek sport about 3 months now
Some Corolla Cross shoppers might never go offroad so they aren't looking for high clearance.
@@SayAhh right. I have no doubt they'll sell a ton of them.
@@vitor2650 Nice comparison of the Rav4 hybrid, CX5, and the Crosstrek. I'm curious, did you considered the Forester? If so, why did you decide on the Crosstrek instead? I'm looking to get one of these - leaning towards the Crosstrek at the moment.
A GREAT Review I am interested in both of these! Thank You!
I really appreciate good video quality and with more and more videos just being shot on Gopro I really appreciate the sharpness that comes from your videos
Always a pleasure your clips.
Hey Ryan, would love to see you review the Hybrid version of the Corolla Cross to see if it's really more refined and faster, if that's a possibility down the road.
I got a few Subaru the main problem we have with the Subaru is RUST. There is no paint on these cars. The maintenance is costly compare to a Toyota. The paint of the Toyota is much better and resist to the rust. I would go with the Toyota anytime.
It kind of seems to me like the cross track is a bit underpowered for those hills that are a bit steeper and also pose traction issues. If you’re not doing a lot of off Roading that might require increased ground clearance and engine power, a Toyota Corolla cross might be a good option for someone looking for an affordable way to get about town when the weather gets nasty.
Why would you do that when the Subaru is better and cheaper?
@@onelove2349 kinda because when cross is released everything subaru and every other toyota are out of stock and lead time of a year
@@onelove2349and less reliable 😅
"Toyota buyers are going to buy Toyota products". That right there sums up this video, basically, this is a more expensive Crosstrek (not quite as capable of course), and created for the Toyota brand fans that wanted something similar.
Enjoy your channel. I remember seeing a video in which you were driving your 1991? Subaru Legacy? It would be great to see a track day or rally with your car.
Thank you Sir, really distinctive and on point video I found than any other video..because I'm thinking to upgrade my corolla Sedan SE to Cross XLE
Enterprise rental is probably drooling over these to replace their aging nissan rogue sport rentals.
No they have Hyundais and Kias for that now that Nissan is about to go bankrupt.
I can't find anything on the 2023 Corolla Cross Hybrid Off-road, so I'll settle for this.
can you do a one-off special and show us some nice driving scenic routes around the PNW?
Yes, please!!!
Ohhh. YES PLEASE
When I stayed in Renton Washington, I thought almost everything was a scenic drive.
But I especially loved riding my motorcycle to Paradise.
@@mrjon75 I live close to the border, and back before we had kids, my wife and I would try and discover the areas from Blaine down to Arlington. Really miss those days, and it the novelty has never worn off over the years. Pre-covid, I went down to b'ham literally every weekend not just for gas and groceries, but to enjoy some of the neat restaurants/cafes around the surrounding area
@@reikasdad It's pretty magical out there. I hope to visit again sometime. Hopefully you can show your kids around there eventually.
This is exactly what I needed to see because I'm debating of buying either Cross or Crosstrek.
The Corolla Cross is a shockingly uncharismatic vehicle. I was pretty surprised by how bland it looks. I don't doubt it's durable and capable, but this already looks ready for a refreshed next generation.
I’m looking into buying a 2022 Subaru crosstrek premium right now so I came here to see the Subaru more than the Corolla even thought this one is a 2021.
Ryan, It may not help ultimate traction but I am still hoping the Cross's Hybrid system is sourced from the RAV4 rather than the UX. At prices like this, an upgrade in performance is thoroughly warranted. In regard to the Crosstrek, a sale that goes to Subaru still ends with 25% of the money going in Toyota's pocket. If someone buys a Corolla Cross, Toyota gets more money but they have to go through the bother of actually building a car . 😉
Agreed.
I chose the Corolla Cross because they were in stock and I wanted something with great reliability and fuel economy, and I liked the way it handled more and the interior seemed nicer to me.
I’ll Stay with my Subaru over that one. First for the cost,and performance and power.
You make amazing videos man
well, nice again , Subaru proving again putting stronger power to rear wheels
Many car manufacturers still don't understand.
Nobody likes an Ipad sticked on the dash!
Build something that looks nicely integrated like Subaru does.
Great review, I think they are two different all wheel drive systems and one thing the Cross will have is bulletproof reliability. It will probably last a very long time. Maybe 2 decades if rust proof with oil base coating.
how would subaru be any different? they are both good cars
@@andrewdonohue1853 Subaru engines by design have lot more moving parts. Subarus still not a mainstream brand as Toyotas.
@@Thankyou_3 Yes. My daughter had a Forester bought new. I wasn''t impressed by the mechanical reliability. Auto transmission completely blew out while under warranty. Subaru gave her a complete new one. Also problems with cam timing, air conditioning, alternator. She ditched it at about 100,000 miles. I've owned Toyotas past 37 years and satisfied with their reliability. Unlike Fords and GM's I used to own.
@@toma5153 Yes. I agree. I bought an Outback new in 2019 and was disappointed in its reliability--cracked windshield, fuel pump failure--and in Subaru's denials there was an issue. They've lost class-action suits prior to 2019 on the windshields and finally recalled their fuel pump on the Outback in 2020.
Does anyone remember the Corolla wagon? I never understood why they discontinued it. All the same reliability as the Corolla sedan and lots more space. The Cross attracts me as a way to finally get the old wagon back!
Thanks for this comparison, Ryan. Precisely what I was searching for.
Great balanced review. It seemed as if the wheel articulation might be a limiting factor the Corolla Cross (words I never thought I’d say) lifted its rear wheel when he turned the small bump caused the rear wheel to lift
Obviously. Toyota usually has excellent traction control. My highlander 2016, would do off road park stuff. Only climbs limited by the all season tires would limit it.
New vehicles are extremely sorry for capabilities. The drive trains are the same, the brakes are the same. It’s all limited by the software.
You could flash that Corolla and it would well.
@@johnmadsen37 I love those highlanders! A guy out in AZ trails and modded his!! I agree I was hoping because it has a CVT and is “similar” to a trek aka Toyota owns part of Subaru the performance would be similar. The hybrid Rav AWD mapping is horrible… it could probably be a beast but the computer limits it…
Locking diffs counter limited articulation quite a bit. Toyota needs to add a button for locking/clamping the center diff. TRD could also bring in more customers and revenue by offering a rear locker, some underbody armor, and a winchmount for off-road enthusiasts.
SUPPORT YOUR CUVs, TOYOTA! There are more customers and money to be made!
TCS is no substitute for traction diffs.
Siped mudders help too.
It doesn't matter, you can't find one at a dealership. I looked on line at a dealership that only had 8 new cars on the lot
Great review and comparison.... Keep it up Ryan.. Love your channel still and look forward to your stuff every week.... Well done...
Toyota cars, trucks any day of the week. Reliability and durable. Lexus and toyota rules.
Thanks for the Corolla cross off road test. Well done. I think I'll pass on the Corolla Cross....
You are going right
Nothing can compete with the subie in quality, capability for off road and winter conditions, best AWD system in the game!
I wish Subaru built something with at least a 7k tow capacity, I'd replace my Explorer LOL. The more I watch videos with you taking the Subaru Crosstrek Sport into conditions I'd need to go when going camping, I certainly think the Subaru would suit me great for a lot of stuff, just that towing issue keeps me from getting rid of my Explorer right now...new Explorers don't have the towing capacity, and are lacking a few cylinders as well. The prices of SUV's today are completely absurd for most of us.
A used Toyota Sequoia might work well for you. 7K lb is quite a bit for most SUVs to tow. There are 1/2-ton V8 pickups that can't tow 7K lb.
@@tomaskroupakkfoto4132 Manual trans is available on several Subarus.
@@RKmndo the gas mpg is a killer on the sequoia.
@@Croiseeman MPG is a killer on almost anything that will tow 7K lb. An Ecodiesel Gladiator or Ram 1500 might be the only exceptions.
I can get 22-23MPG with a 5.7L 4WD crewcab Tundra, but I still consider that a gas-hog.
I watched this video a couple times. And I noticed that when he was doing the same section that the Toyota was in being that he owned the car he was more aggressive with it so there was a little bias. He didn’t want to hurt a brand new car he charged a little bit with the Subaru And the Subaru was a little more use of the throttle as you could tell from different camera angles from the wheel spin. Again it was lighter on the Toyota than the Subaru because he didn’t want to hurt and pay for damage on a new car.
The simple fact of the matter is that most SUVs and Crossovers on the market are FWD that have a 4WD system just for marketing purposes. Subaru’s symmetrical AWD is an actual AWD system and that can be clearly seen in this video regardless of tires.
If you want to be able to go anywhere then buy a car with a real AWD or 4WD system and invest in tires for what you will be using the car for.
What would be interesting to see is the difference between 2WD and 4WD corolla cross, how much that 4WD actually helps compared to same car with just 2WD
Can’t stream video!