@@Vats678Jainism is just 2600 years old. It's formed by Mahaveer swami ji. After death of mahaveer swami ji, jain sadhus created so many fake stories and added 23 dummy gods to claim jainism is older than vedic religion. Please see video from my channel, There are no any tirthankars name in vedas.
You are wrong actually Jainism has nothing to do with name Bharat . It was named after shakuntala & dushyant son Bharat who was from kuru vansh of Mahabharata .
@@jaylagdiwala4453hindu word itself is a badword given by the Mughals. Original religion of India is Jainism and Buddhism and not based on some story books where you see flying monkeys carrying mountains 😂.
@@edwinrodrigues9747Ok Sanatan is the original Dharma.Jainism and Buddhism are just sub branches of it.And interest part is that Buddhism and Jainism denies authority of Vedas but all teachings of Jainism and Buddhism are from .Ishvaku vansh holds the very much importance in both and in Jainism one tirthankar is Ishvaku Vanshi and born in Ayodhya where Lord Ram takes the avatar and also a Ishvaku Vanshi .The father and spiritual master of the Great king Ishvaku is Manu the first Human son of Brahma
जय जिनेन्द्र देवदत्त जी! जैन दर्शन के प्रति आपकी उत्तम समझ के प्रति साधुवाद ! अजैन होते हुए भी जैन दर्शन को समझना और सार्वजनिक रूप से उसे इतने सुन्दर तरीके से प्रस्तुत करना साहस की बात है।
देवदत्त ! आपको बौद्धिक स्तर पर जैन दर्शन में इतना आनन्द आ रहा है। कल्पना कीजिए यदि आप अनुभूति के स्तर पर इसे जी सकें तो ... पर इसके लिए श्रम करना होगा, श्रमण बनना होगा।
obviously, "sanatan" has jain roots, jain dharm is the oldest religion, jainism is pre-vedic religion, in ancients times it was known as "Shraman" and shramans are the forefathers of vedic cult people
The word "Hinduism" was coined in 1816-17. Its was used to identify the people living on the other side of the Sidhu (Indus) river. Now because the Persians(Parsis) couldn't pronounce "Sindhu" properly, it later slowly became "Hindu", for the people living across the Sindhu river. By the 1840s, the term "Hinduism" was used by those Indians who opposed British colonialism. Later, due to political stands, turned into a religious term who wanted to distinguish themselves from Muslims and Christians. Now, because of a huge majority of followers of this religion, which is only growing in numbers, Sanatan also became a religion which Hindu people follow. but in reality, SANATAN IS NOT EQUAL TO hinduism. Let's see what it means:- Sanatan literally mean "ancient", "venerable", "eternal". So according to this, more than 1 religion, which is ancient can be called Sanatan, like Jainism, buddhism etc. Which doesn't necessarily mean that they follow the same religion or worship the same Gods, or even follow same practices. Remember: A religion can be sanatan, but sanatan isn't any religion. "Sanatan" tells how old a religion is, so it can indicate more than 1 religion, too. I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings or faith. Thank you. Have great day.
Buddhism and Jainism is the original religion of India and the entire south east asia china Japan. Buddha and mahavir never spoke in Sanskrit or knew of any monkeys flying carrying mountains.
@@edwinrodrigues9747 Original religion, duplicate religion concepts don't exist in dharmic traditions. Everyone has their own path. red flag is when people dissect and differentiate b/w paths and brand original, duplicate. Paths are subjected to ultimate reality. There is no point in branding it original. There is no chronology superiority or one cancels other.
@@krishnasai7891 but why should any sensible human believe in flying monkeys carrying mountains? I think such stories exist only in bogus Harry Potter type of story books.
जैन दर्शन पर आपके विविध व्याख्यान सुनने पर ऐसा लगा कि कुछ बातें हैं जो शायद आपको स्पष्ट नहीं हैं। पहले आपकी किताब पढ़ लूँ तब निश्चित कर पाऊँगी और आपको बता पाऊँगी |
Many times, attempts are made to equate Jainism with Buddhism. However, Buddhism is less than 3,000 years old, and Mahavirswami, a contemporary of Buddha, was the 24th Tirthankar of the Jain tradition. Jainism, therefore, predates Buddhism by thousands of years, making it a significantly older spiritual tradition.
नाभिराथ अन्तिम कुलकर थे। उसके पहले भोग भूमि थी कल्प वृक्ष से लोगों की आवश्यकता की पूर्ति होती तो रिषभ देव जी के समय कर्म भूमि शुरू होगी थी लोगों को नहीं समझ आ रहा था कि हम अपना जीवन यापन कैसे करेंगे क्यों कि कर्म भूमि में कल्प वृक्ष खत्म हो जाते हैं तब भगवान रिषभ देव जी ने असि ,मसि कृषि , शिल्प , ओर वाणिज्य का ज्ञान लोगों को दिया इस तरह लोगों ने अपना जीवन यापन शुरू किया।
FACTS: Buddhism and Jainism were followed by people before Lord Mahaveer and Lord Buddha. Lets see how: Jainism:- Historically, Ramayana was taken place during the time reign of the 20th Tirthankar in Jainism. Mahabharat during the 22nd Tirthankar. And historians have found evidence of existence of 23rd tirthankar who lived 10,000 yrs ago. 2300-2400 years ago was when Lord Mahaveer found Jainism again. Who was the 24th Tirthankar(last of this time cycle). There were 23 Tirthankar before him for different periods of time, ranging from crores, to thousands. Same for Buddhism, Buddha was the latest highly spiritual being who revived Buddhism again. This doesn't mean there weren't any before him. People followed Buddhism even before him.
Fact is ramayan and Mahabharata are all bogus story books just like some Harry Potter novel that never happened. Buddha and mahavir never knew or spoke about flying monkeys carrying mountains 😂🐒💨.
Yes .i fully agree. First religion was sanatan dharm,ishvaku dynasty,ich later termed as Jain dharm,when there were differences about siddhdha and In treata yug,GOD , philosophy arose ,and division in universal sanatani dharm
Why can’t the interview just be an independent subject sticking to Jainism. I don’t understand why the host had to keep connecting each and every single thing to Hinduism. I understand it helps in drawing a distinction between the two religions. However, it rather seemed over imposing. Otherwise great insight!
Hi 😊 thanks for your comment. I’m the host of the show, anushka. I don’t usually respond to comments but I just came across this one and wanted to reply since I work very hard on my interviews, and was particularly interested in this topic. The interview is based on devdutts book Bahubali which is about Jainism. In the book he draws many parallels with Hinduism and Buddhism that’s why it was important to keep to that theme. Also Jainism is a lesser known religion, and comparisons help the majority of my audience to understand the teachings. As for the comparison with yoga, I thought it relevant and interesting as I’m a student of yoga sutras and the similarities with Jainism are fascinating. Besides all these religions are dharmic faiths. There’s so much overlap. My intention was definitely not to impose a sense of Hindu superiority. Any credible, well researched journalist would bring up the parallels. Just makes it more thought provoking. Glad you found the discussion insightful. Jainism is indeed has some amazing principles. 😊
@@anushkajagtianiGlad to see you addressed this comment. I just want you to know certain things that even Hinduism scriptures such as Vishnu Purana, Garud Purana, Linga Purana, Vayu Purana, Agni Purana, Skand Purana, Bhagavata Purana, Matsya Purana, Markandeya Purana clearly mentions that this country name derived from the Rishabhnath's Son Bharat Chakravarthy. Including Rig Veda mentions all the 24 Tirthankaras name in it. Jainism existed prior to Vedic period and probably there are more chances that Jainism is older than Hinduism. You can find Harrapan Torso a nude idol found from the Indus valley civilization as well. So Jainism is considered to be distinct and separate from Vedic religion. Just because it has similaraties that doesn't necessary that Jainism is a part of Hinduism. It could be the other way around. Judaism came before Christianity and Islam but today Judaism has less population compare to Christianity and Islam. Similarly it's possible that Jainism was already into existence long before the Vedic Religion 🙏🏻 Jai Jinendra 🙏🏻
@@anushkajagtiani Thanks for doing this podcast! 🙏🏻 Drawing comparison is necessary as the majority of people confuse Jainism with Hinduism and the comparison gives much clarity..
@@Bluestrings_123 May be you are living in a delusion. The majority of people generally believe that Jains are Hindus. Don't spread hatred! 🙏🏻 We do believe in Shree Ram in the form of Balbhadra ji. But we have different beliefs. Same as you guys believe that Rishabh Dev ji is 8th avatar of Vishnu ji. Our belief is different but rather than arguing with others we believe in Anekantvad. Similarly, Shree Krishna is also cousin of our 22nd tirthankar Neminath ji. So, we are born an brought up listening to all of them. Be it our tirthankars or Hindu deities. And yes even though I am Jain, we do listen to Gayatri Mantra too. I memorised the same. Personally I do take positive things from all the religions. Do you know Navkar Mantra and its meaning? Or do you guys ever visit Jain temples? But we do...
@@Bluestrings_123 Its the difference which makes Bharat united. Principles of Hinduism and Jainism may differ but the core is the same. No one is superior to others.
Buddhism is spreaded all over the world because for the disciples and sansarik followers the rules were linient and not as hard as were for following Jainism. The Jain Sadhu sadhvika , the Shramans would never use modes for travelling, made linient for using travelling modes and also strict food and eating pattern. Jainism is quite hard to live daytoday. So buddhism is spreader wider in small time.
जैनिज्म में आत्मा की तीन अवस्था 1-बहिरात्मा (संसारी गृहस्थ/अव्रतीअणुव्रती श्रावक) 2-स्वयं के पुरुषार्थ से शरीरादि परद्रव्य परभावमें आत्मत्वबुद्धि त्याग कर आत्मस्वभाव में रुचि-अनुभूति वाला अंतरात्मा(व्रती श्रावक/महाव्रती साधक) और 3-अंततः परमात्मा के ध्यान से शुद्ध-वीतरागी परमात्मा(अरिहंत सिद्ध) बन सकता है।
The real religion name is bhramanvadi. Hindu word is actually an insult. These bhramanvadi fellows wrote story books of flying monkeys carrying mountains just like some bogus Harry Potter novel.
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
@@anandpendyala Hinduism is just some bogus story just like Harry Potter novel that never existed. Flying monkeys carrying mountains never existed before.
@@edwinrodrigues9747 Have you read Ramayan? And moreover you dont get to speak in topics of atma gnanam and athyatmikata. Abrahamic faiths would never get it.
Thanks for bringing this up... Shoutout for Jain's & Buddhists. Specially Jain's with 1000's of stories, monuments, truth was pressed buried by so many times in last centuries so it becomes minimum. Jain's would shut up when anyone debates My daddy's strongest.
Before tirthankar Mahaveer no word 'Jain' used either for sadhus nor the followers. Overall the sanathan practice of being a Sadhu, sanyasi, they were called Nirgranthi, shraman sangh.
Very sorry to say Jainism is much older than Buddhism , historically it is proven that 23 rd tirthankar shri parshvnath bhagwan existed before shri Gautam buddh and parents of Gautam buddh were followers of lord parshvnath , and when you talk of lord rishabh nath how could you place Jainism to contemporary to buddhism
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
Bhagwat purana of hinduism accepts that name bharat comes from bharat chakrvatri son of rishabdev. However it was written much latter, around 10th century ad.
Jainism is older than Buddhism. Gautam Buddha was from Era of 24th tirthankar Mahaveer around 2500 years before. There were 23 tirthankars in Jainism before that
Devdutt Patnaik., is first a disgrace to his own name., has no clue about Sanatana dharma., and a self proclaimed mythologist is in itself a disgrace. Mythology this word itself means study of what’s unreal or false (Sanskrit word mithya).
Jainism and Buddhism is the original religion of India. The real name of the Hindu religion is bhramanvadi. They wrote those story books and tried to shove Buddha and Mahavir in their story books . Flying monkeys reached Srilanka but till today Srilanka is a Buddhist nation. Buddha never flew in the sky but yet spread his teachings in the entire south east Asia, china Japan, central Asia. Now bhramanwadi guys wanted to do something so they made up story books about flying monkey and monkeys building bridges. What they did not realise that in this world of the internet their story books are getting exposed 😝.
Mr Pattanaik, are you saying that Bharatas the vedic tribe and Bharata the son of Rishabdeva are the same? As per my understanding the term Bharata comes from the Bharata tribe who won the Dasharadnya Yuddha after defeating all other vedic and local non vedic tribes around 2000 BC and establishing their dominance on the Indo - Gangetic Area. Rishabdeva was a king around the Ayodhya region and i dont think his reign stretched to the north western india region
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
But Devdutt boss, Buddhism and Jainism has the roots in Hinduism, Sanatana. So why are you splitting hair? Gautama Buddha and Mahavira were Sanatani Hindus to start with, isn't it?
@@edwinrodrigues9747 i didn't use Hindu word I said sanatan. And I can't understand how the word hindu is bad may be you have hate towards Hindus . And if mahavir and buddha didn't preach in Sanskrit so what is the problem. They choose languages of their time region and those which are better known to common people but several jain and Buddhist scriptures are in Sanskrit e.g. tatwarthsutra is one of the most imp granth in jains. And jain do have a ramayan charector namely hanuman who may have defferent characteristics then other's Hanuman but jain do pay respect towards him.
@@mohitjain9997 Hindus were identified by the Mughals and so they could be taxed . Buddha never knew about any bogus bhramanvadi made up gods. Flying monkeys reached Srilanka but till today Srilanka is a Buddhist nation. Buddha never flew in the sky but yet spread his teachings in the entire south east Asia, china Japan, central Asia. Now bhramanwadi guys wanted to do something so they made up story books about flying monkey and monkeys building bridges. What they did not realise that in this world of the internet their story books are getting exposed 😝..
@@mohitjain9997 Hindus were identified by the Mughals and so they could be taxed . Buddha never knew about any bogus bhramanvadi made up gods. Flying monkeys reached Srilanka but till today Srilanka is a Buddhist nation. Buddha never flew in the sky but yet spread his teachings in the entire south east Asia, china Japan, central Asia. Now bhramanwadi guys wanted to do something so they made up story books about flying monkey and monkeys building bridges. What they did not realise that in this world of the internet their story books are getting exposed 😝. ...
Hinduism and Jainism are both parts of same religion. Jainism is methodology to achieve your soul and get away from rebirth process. All tirthabkars took birth as child of kings.
@@DhruvJain_IIT_Indorebhai mae abhi class 12 mae hu mene class 11 or 12th dono ncert level tak hi padhi hai or jee ke bare mae bhi mereko thoda late Pta chala toh bhai toh aap mujhe guide kr skte hai ki mae drop year mae jee kaise crack kru konse teacher se padhu or study material konsa best hoga
He doesn't know real meaning of sanatana Dharma. He is saying no god come to save, then why God send his beloved son called Jesus to save the people in Christianity.
Have you read the Hebrew Bible? It calls the God-like people Elohim and the group of them translated into arabic and cyriac into Allah. Christianity derives the origin from Hebrew Bible but the idea of prophet of God had come to them and with time, it evolved into Jesus as the son of God , not as an attribute of God.
Thank you so much for telling our story
ऋषभदेव जैन के पुत्र भरत जो की चक्रवर्ती राजा थे ऊनके नाम पर ही हमारे देश का नाम *भारत* पडा है, यह 100% सत्य है । 🙏
evidence. That story was written around the 10th Century.
@@vinsin328you noob it's written in Shrimad Bhagwatam and puranas are way older than Historian thinks
Mere Ghar Mai chakrvarti Bharat ki kitab thi unki Shakti sampati Patni putra sab jankari hai
@@Vats678Jainism is just 2600 years old. It's formed by Mahaveer swami ji. After death of mahaveer swami ji, jain sadhus created so many fake stories and added 23 dummy gods to claim jainism is older than vedic religion. Please see video from my channel, There are no any tirthankars name in vedas.
You are wrong actually Jainism has nothing to do with name Bharat . It was named after shakuntala & dushyant son Bharat who was from kuru vansh of Mahabharata .
Great explanation of jainism.
I don't understand why he said Jainism is as old as Buddhism when it is in fact much older
Maybe read Hindu vedas that mention the names of jain tirthankaras j
he is a fraud
@@jaylagdiwala4453hindu word itself is a badword given by the Mughals. Original religion of India is Jainism and Buddhism and not based on some story books where you see flying monkeys carrying mountains 😂.
@@edwinrodrigues9747Ok Sanatan is the original Dharma.Jainism and Buddhism are just sub branches of it.And interest part is that Buddhism and Jainism denies authority of Vedas but all teachings of Jainism and Buddhism are from .Ishvaku vansh holds the very much importance in both and in Jainism one tirthankar is Ishvaku Vanshi and born in Ayodhya where Lord Ram takes the avatar and also a Ishvaku Vanshi .The father and spiritual master of the Great king Ishvaku is Manu the first Human son of Brahma
@@Vats678 Buddha never knew of any flying monkeys carrying mountains.
जय जिनेन्द्र देवदत्त जी! जैन दर्शन के प्रति आपकी उत्तम समझ के प्रति साधुवाद ! अजैन होते हुए भी जैन दर्शन को समझना और सार्वजनिक रूप से उसे इतने सुन्दर तरीके से प्रस्तुत करना साहस की बात है।
Superb sir, I always wanted someone to read jain books and bringing it out to the world. I will surely like to read your book
Which Jain books would you recommend we read for more understanding?
देवदत्त ! आपको बौद्धिक स्तर पर जैन दर्शन में इतना आनन्द आ रहा है। कल्पना कीजिए यदि आप अनुभूति के स्तर पर इसे जी सकें तो ... पर इसके लिए श्रम करना होगा, श्रमण बनना होगा।
Very nice explanation about jain dharm 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Yes🎉
You described it very well and even anchor did her research work.. 😊👍🏻
obviously, "sanatan" has jain roots, jain dharm is the oldest religion, jainism is pre-vedic religion, in ancients times it was known as "Shraman" and shramans are the forefathers of vedic cult people
Obviously you are not informed
@@torontosatsangam3237read jain scriptures you will know.
@@torontosatsangam3237 obviously he is informed, jainism is actually the oldest religion....
total crap
@@torontosatsangam3237 yeah you are a total crap
Thanks u so much sir for telling jain story 😊🙏
The word "Hinduism" was coined in 1816-17. Its was used to identify the people living on the other side of the Sidhu (Indus) river. Now because the Persians(Parsis) couldn't pronounce "Sindhu" properly, it later slowly became "Hindu", for the people living across the Sindhu river.
By the 1840s, the term "Hinduism" was used by those Indians who opposed British colonialism. Later, due to political stands, turned into a religious term who wanted to distinguish themselves from Muslims and Christians.
Now, because of a huge majority of followers of this religion, which is only growing in numbers, Sanatan also became a religion which Hindu people follow. but in reality, SANATAN IS NOT EQUAL TO hinduism. Let's see what it means:-
Sanatan literally mean "ancient", "venerable", "eternal".
So according to this, more than 1 religion, which is ancient can be called Sanatan, like Jainism, buddhism etc. Which doesn't necessarily mean that they follow the same religion or worship the same Gods, or even follow same practices.
Remember: A religion can be sanatan, but sanatan isn't any religion.
"Sanatan" tells how old a religion is, so it can indicate more than 1 religion, too.
I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings or faith. Thank you. Have great day.
Buddhism and Jainism is the original religion of India and the entire south east asia china Japan. Buddha and mahavir never spoke in Sanskrit or knew of any monkeys flying carrying mountains.
The majority of people who call themselves Sanatan are Brahmavadi.
@@edwinrodrigues9747 Original religion, duplicate religion concepts don't exist in dharmic traditions. Everyone has their own path. red flag is when people dissect and differentiate b/w paths and brand original, duplicate. Paths are subjected to ultimate reality. There is no point in branding it original. There is no chronology superiority or one cancels other.
@@krishnasai7891 but why should any sensible human believe in flying monkeys carrying mountains? I think such stories exist only in bogus Harry Potter type of story books.
जैन दर्शन पर आपके विविध व्याख्यान सुनने पर ऐसा लगा कि कुछ बातें हैं जो शायद आपको स्पष्ट नहीं हैं। पहले आपकी किताब पढ़ लूँ तब निश्चित कर पाऊँगी और आपको बता पाऊँगी |
Highly Insightful session ❤❤
Many times, attempts are made to equate Jainism with Buddhism. However, Buddhism is less than 3,000 years old, and Mahavirswami, a contemporary of Buddha, was the 24th Tirthankar of the Jain tradition. Jainism, therefore, predates Buddhism by thousands of years, making it a significantly older spiritual tradition.
नाभिराथ अन्तिम कुलकर थे। उसके पहले भोग भूमि थी कल्प वृक्ष से लोगों की आवश्यकता की पूर्ति होती तो रिषभ देव जी के समय कर्म भूमि शुरू होगी थी लोगों को नहीं समझ आ रहा था कि हम अपना जीवन यापन कैसे करेंगे क्यों कि कर्म भूमि में कल्प वृक्ष खत्म हो जाते हैं तब भगवान रिषभ देव जी ने असि ,मसि कृषि , शिल्प , ओर वाणिज्य का ज्ञान लोगों को दिया इस तरह लोगों ने अपना जीवन यापन शुरू किया।
FACTS: Buddhism and Jainism were followed by people before Lord Mahaveer and Lord Buddha.
Lets see how:
Jainism:- Historically, Ramayana was taken place during the time reign of the 20th Tirthankar in Jainism. Mahabharat during the 22nd Tirthankar.
And historians have found evidence of existence of 23rd tirthankar who lived 10,000 yrs ago. 2300-2400 years ago was when Lord Mahaveer found Jainism again. Who was the 24th Tirthankar(last of this time cycle). There were 23 Tirthankar before him for different periods of time, ranging from crores, to thousands.
Same for Buddhism, Buddha was the latest highly spiritual being who revived Buddhism again. This doesn't mean there weren't any before him. People followed Buddhism even before him.
Fact is ramayan and Mahabharata are all bogus story books just like some Harry Potter novel that never happened. Buddha and mahavir never knew or spoke about flying monkeys carrying mountains 😂🐒💨.
Please provide details and evidence and publish in a scientific journal.
Gud knowledge on Jainism. Its simply a great religion on earth
Yes .i fully agree. First religion was sanatan dharm,ishvaku dynasty,ich later termed as Jain dharm,when there were differences about siddhdha and In treata yug,GOD , philosophy arose ,and division in universal sanatani dharm
Ye Bharatvarsh name chakrawarti ke Aacharan dekhakar unhe vardanswarup mila tha us katha ne muze bahut prerit kiya
Chakrvari Bharat jinhone 6 khandopar raj kiya
Proud to be JAIN 🫶
Beautifully explained❤
Why can’t the interview just be an independent subject sticking to Jainism. I don’t understand why the host had to keep connecting each and every single thing to Hinduism. I understand it helps in drawing a distinction between the two religions. However, it rather seemed over imposing. Otherwise great insight!
Hi 😊 thanks for your comment. I’m the host of the show, anushka. I don’t usually respond to comments but I just came across this one and wanted to reply since I work very hard on my interviews, and was particularly interested in this topic. The interview is based on devdutts book Bahubali which is about Jainism. In the book he draws many parallels with Hinduism and Buddhism that’s why it was important to keep to that theme. Also Jainism is a lesser known religion, and comparisons help the majority of my audience to understand the teachings. As for the comparison with yoga, I thought it relevant and interesting as I’m a student of yoga sutras and the similarities with Jainism are fascinating. Besides all these religions are dharmic faiths. There’s so much overlap. My intention was definitely not to impose a sense of Hindu superiority. Any credible, well researched journalist would bring up the parallels. Just makes it more thought provoking. Glad you found the discussion insightful. Jainism is indeed has some amazing principles. 😊
@@anushkajagtianiGlad to see you addressed this comment. I just want you to know certain things that even Hinduism scriptures such as Vishnu Purana, Garud Purana, Linga Purana, Vayu Purana, Agni Purana, Skand Purana, Bhagavata Purana, Matsya Purana, Markandeya Purana clearly mentions that this country name derived from the Rishabhnath's Son Bharat Chakravarthy. Including Rig Veda mentions all the 24 Tirthankaras name in it. Jainism existed prior to Vedic period and probably there are more chances that Jainism is older than Hinduism. You can find Harrapan Torso a nude idol found from the Indus valley civilization as well. So Jainism is considered to be distinct and separate from Vedic religion. Just because it has similaraties that doesn't necessary that Jainism is a part of Hinduism. It could be the other way around. Judaism came before Christianity and Islam but today Judaism has less population compare to Christianity and Islam. Similarly it's possible that Jainism was already into existence long before the Vedic Religion 🙏🏻 Jai Jinendra 🙏🏻
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Drawing comparison is necessary as the majority of people confuse Jainism with Hinduism and the comparison gives much clarity..
@@Bluestrings_123 May be you are living in a delusion. The majority of people generally believe that Jains are Hindus.
Don't spread hatred! 🙏🏻
We do believe in Shree Ram in the form of Balbhadra ji. But we have different beliefs. Same as you guys believe that Rishabh Dev ji is 8th avatar of Vishnu ji. Our belief is different but rather than arguing with others we believe in Anekantvad.
Similarly, Shree Krishna is also cousin of our 22nd tirthankar Neminath ji. So, we are born an brought up listening to all of them. Be it our tirthankars or Hindu deities.
And yes even though I am Jain, we do listen to Gayatri Mantra too. I memorised the same. Personally I do take positive things from all the religions.
Do you know Navkar Mantra and its meaning? Or do you guys ever visit Jain temples? But we do...
@@Bluestrings_123 Its the difference which makes Bharat united. Principles of Hinduism and Jainism may differ but the core is the same.
No one is superior to others.
What an osmm explaination i like it
Very well explained!❤
Bilkul sahi
Aapne satya ko bahut sahi se bataya.🤨
Very good described Jainism
Buddhism is spreaded all over the world because for the disciples and sansarik followers the rules were linient and not as hard as were for following Jainism.
The Jain Sadhu sadhvika , the Shramans would never use modes for travelling, made linient for using travelling modes and also strict food and eating pattern.
Jainism is quite hard to live daytoday. So buddhism is spreader wider in small time.
Wow well explained !!
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जैनिज्म में आत्मा की तीन अवस्था
1-बहिरात्मा (संसारी गृहस्थ/अव्रतीअणुव्रती श्रावक)
2-स्वयं के पुरुषार्थ से शरीरादि परद्रव्य परभावमें आत्मत्वबुद्धि त्याग कर आत्मस्वभाव में रुचि-अनुभूति वाला अंतरात्मा(व्रती श्रावक/महाव्रती साधक) और
3-अंततः परमात्मा के ध्यान से शुद्ध-वीतरागी परमात्मा(अरिहंत सिद्ध) बन सकता है।
Jainism is older than Hinduism.
The real religion name is bhramanvadi. Hindu word is actually an insult. These bhramanvadi fellows wrote story books of flying monkeys carrying mountains just like some bogus Harry Potter novel.
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
Goood joke
@@anandpendyala Hinduism is just some bogus story just like Harry Potter novel that never existed. Flying monkeys carrying mountains never existed before.
@@edwinrodrigues9747 Have you read Ramayan? And moreover you dont get to speak in topics of atma gnanam and athyatmikata. Abrahamic faiths would never get it.
Very .nise .Jai. jinendra
Thanks for bringing this up... Shoutout for Jain's & Buddhists. Specially Jain's with 1000's of stories, monuments, truth was pressed buried by so many times in last centuries so it becomes minimum. Jain's would shut up when anyone debates My daddy's strongest.
Before tirthankar Mahaveer no word 'Jain' used either for sadhus nor the followers. Overall the sanathan practice of being a Sadhu, sanyasi, they were called Nirgranthi, shraman sangh.
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Very sorry to say Jainism is much older than Buddhism , historically it is proven that 23 rd tirthankar shri parshvnath bhagwan existed before shri Gautam buddh and parents of Gautam buddh were followers of lord parshvnath , and when you talk of lord rishabh nath how could you place Jainism to contemporary to buddhism
Jainism is older than Buddhism.
The King Bimbisar, a Jain king was at the age of Gautam Buddh.
Bhagwan Mahavir and Gautama Buddha were contemporaries of each other around 600 BC, Bimbisar came later around 500 BC
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
Very nice.... Jai Jinendra 🙏🏻
Jai shree Mahaveer Jai jinendra
Where to get his book. I did not find hard cover Bahubali book on Amazon
Jainism is very much older than Buddhism
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
Bhagwat purana of hinduism accepts that name bharat comes from bharat chakrvatri son of rishabdev. However it was written much latter, around 10th century ad.
In that Rishav is an avatar of Vishnu and the stories are quire different from Jainism.
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Jainism is older than Buddhism. Gautam Buddha was from Era of 24th tirthankar Mahaveer around 2500 years before. There were 23 tirthankars in Jainism before that
Good one
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पतंजलि शुंग वंश के समय थे मौर्य वंश के बाद मैडम जी
Devdutt Patnaik., is first a disgrace to his own name., has no clue about Sanatana dharma., and a self proclaimed mythologist is in itself a disgrace. Mythology this word itself means study of what’s unreal or false (Sanskrit word mithya).
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Now whose sanatan word is belong to who coined it. ?
Dear devdatt ji.. its not rishabh his full name was rishabhdev. Dev is not seperate.. in that time full mane was like dev or nath with it.
Jainism and Buddhism is the original religion of India. The real name of the Hindu religion is bhramanvadi. They wrote those story books and tried to shove Buddha and Mahavir in their story books . Flying monkeys reached Srilanka but till today Srilanka is a Buddhist nation. Buddha never flew in the sky but yet spread his teachings in the entire south east Asia, china Japan, central Asia. Now bhramanwadi guys wanted to do something so they made up story books about flying monkey and monkeys building bridges. What they did not realise that in this world of the internet their story books are getting exposed 😝.
Brahmavad and Hinduism are different but you are correct that dominant idea is Brahmavad.
Arey khufiya ...
Mr Pattanaik, are you saying that Bharatas the vedic tribe and Bharata the son of Rishabdeva are the same? As per my understanding the term Bharata comes from the Bharata tribe who won the Dasharadnya Yuddha after defeating all other vedic and local non vedic tribes around 2000 BC and establishing their dominance on the Indo - Gangetic Area. Rishabdeva was a king around the Ayodhya region and i dont think his reign stretched to the north western india region
We have word sanatan in Gita far older then mahavir
Why this man alwats splits the wrong information ? And people blindly follow it also
Buddha made Sraman parampara or Sraman Dharm easy to follow for a common man.. That is the only difference between Jainism and Buddhism. Jainism is more though and there are more restriction to Jainism Buddhism is just a liberal version of Jainism.
Kindly dont use words like mythology for our glorious history
Word sanatan in Hinduism and satan in christian seems similar
Fundamental flaws. Why is he commenting on Jainism when he doesn't know?
Purely Lack of research and knowkedge. Hope you realize and rework. 🙏
HAVE A THROUGH KNOWLEDGE AND PUT IT ON PAPER
And word jain has sanatan root...
Devdutt's ignorance is of mythological proportions. Most of the time, he's just an abusive troll.
He is decoding seal.😂😂😂
😂😂😂 ऋषभ देव जी खुद को श्री कृष्ण का संबधित मानते थे "! ✌️
But Devdutt boss, Buddhism and Jainism has the roots in Hinduism, Sanatana. So why are you splitting hair? Gautama Buddha and Mahavira were Sanatani Hindus to start with, isn't it?
This person is no authority or has qualification to say this
I want to see him in a debate with someone like J Sai Deepak. Or even Abhijit Iyer-Mitra.
I don't think Deepak or Abhijit will debate against these sanatan values
@@mohitjain9997hindu word itself is a badword. Mahavir and Buddha never spoke in Sanskrit and never knew of flying monkeys carrying mountains ...
@@edwinrodrigues9747 i didn't use Hindu word I said sanatan. And I can't understand how the word hindu is bad may be you have hate towards Hindus . And if mahavir and buddha didn't preach in Sanskrit so what is the problem. They choose languages of their time region and those which are better known to common people but several jain and Buddhist scriptures are in Sanskrit e.g. tatwarthsutra is one of the most imp granth in jains. And jain do have a ramayan charector namely hanuman who may have defferent characteristics then other's Hanuman but jain do pay respect towards him.
@@mohitjain9997 Hindus were identified by the Mughals and so they could be taxed . Buddha never knew about any bogus bhramanvadi made up gods.
Flying monkeys reached Srilanka but till today Srilanka is a Buddhist nation. Buddha never flew in the sky but yet spread his teachings in the entire south east Asia, china Japan, central Asia. Now bhramanwadi guys wanted to do something so they made up story books about flying monkey and monkeys building bridges. What they did not realise that in this world of the internet their story books are getting exposed 😝..
@@mohitjain9997 Hindus were identified by the Mughals and so they could be taxed . Buddha never knew about any bogus bhramanvadi made up gods.
Flying monkeys reached Srilanka but till today Srilanka is a Buddhist nation. Buddha never flew in the sky but yet spread his teachings in the entire south east Asia, china Japan, central Asia. Now bhramanwadi guys wanted to do something so they made up story books about flying monkey and monkeys building bridges. What they did not realise that in this world of the internet their story books are getting exposed 😝. ...
Hinduism and Jainism are both parts of same religion. Jainism is methodology to achieve your soul and get away from rebirth process. All tirthabkars took birth as child of kings.
He is a oxymoronic person with least knowledge about Sanatan Hindu Dharma..
Feku ...
Fake historian
He doesn't know the real meaning of sanatan dharma 🤣🤣
you too
@@DhruvJain_IIT_Indorejai jinendra
Bhai aap iitian ho?
@@ThunderFire03 yeah, In second year currently (Not graduated yet)...
@@ThunderFire03 Jai Jinendra, Just search Dhruv Jain IIT Indore or Nano & Energy Materials Laboratory or MetaCryst Club, you will easily find me😀
@@DhruvJain_IIT_Indorebhai mae abhi class 12 mae hu mene class 11 or 12th dono ncert level tak hi padhi hai or jee ke bare mae bhi mereko thoda late Pta chala
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He doesn't know real meaning of sanatana Dharma. He is saying no god come to save, then why God send his beloved son called Jesus to save the people in Christianity.
Have you read the Hebrew Bible? It calls the God-like people Elohim and the group of them translated into arabic and cyriac into Allah. Christianity derives the origin from Hebrew Bible but the idea of prophet of God had come to them and with time, it evolved into Jesus as the son of God , not as an attribute of God.
He isn’t talking about christianity its jainism
he is giving all bull ....... he doesn't know sanatana dharma
How Christianity become a part of Sanatan Dharma?! It's an Abrahamic religion. Both are different..
Jesus is not a historical character but part of the Christian myth. Dharma has no concept of a Christian God.
He is the biggest manipulator of sanatan dharma. Cnt have done so much harm to our sanatan thag. Even mughal can't