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"The liberation of existence through Occultism is the dissolution of the ego into the shadows of the unknown, where the spirit breaks free from the chains of matter and merges with the infinite."
Read. Occult. Classics. Early century. Question everything. Know yourself. Develope a theory Push past the dramatic bullshit. Insightful experience through the darkness...Keep the journey forward. Meditation. Silence. Detach. Read. Pray. Guidance. Enlightenment. Pray. Hush... Detach from your social self and spiritual self. No fear....deeper you go....your light still shines in the darkness. Read. Pray. Tree of knowledge. Know yourself. Know your place. Be tactful. Not a crazy person. Conspiracy theories level 1....then so on and so on. Meditation. Vibration. Seek infinite. My soul will be ready the the presence of the great Light.
Eeeey the team up we always need! Keep up the great work, gentlemen 👏⚒️ This discussion is timely- I'm nose-deep in Hanegraaf, Bull, and Fowden for the talk coming up next month
These conversations are so important, Dr. Litwa is one of my favorite author/researcher and so to see you both get at the core of these topics is wonderful
Love Dr. Litwa, been subscribed since the last time you were drawing on his knowledge and sending people his way and I do not regret it, his channel deserves to blow up!
Thanks for this interesting conversation between two giants of the field. The bridge between theoretical academic study and practice is one that needs to be built or maybe if it is already here, maintained and made wider and longer. Great that you are also thinking about this.
Sorry I missed the Live (power out). For those who haven’t read The Evil Creator, please grab a copy. It is quite readable, tons of notes (more books to find 😆). Fully intend to read more of his work. Thanks for having Litwa join you, Dr Sledge. ❤
At around the 46:50 mark is a prime example of conversations and books that lead me away from religion as a "believer" but opened so much more of an interesting dialog for research, understanding and historical context that was infinity more interesting and fulfilling. Thank you for having conversations like these in an approachable venue.
as I listen to you too talking about unemployed, hermetic priests, I cannot help, but think of the lot of the writer, the artist, and the literary translator in the United States.
I didn’t really understand how Neoplatonism and the Hermetica were Egyptian until I read Philosophy as a Rite of Rebirth: From Ancient Egypt to Neoplatonism by Algis Uzdavinys, painstakingly proves Neoplatonism and Hermetica are not only not Greek but hostile to a fully foreign doctrine despite taking on their language
I love you channel. As a Christian I might disagree with some of your interpretations of early Christianity but your material always enriches my knowledge and understanding. I have one slight criticism. When you discuss Christians in the 2nd century latching onto Egyptian mythology for its antiquaty as others latched onto Jewish. The Jewish connection was origianal, with both Jesus and his disiples being Jewish. The oldest Christian writings are the New Testement books and they are steeped in Jewish beliefs.
Brilliant, sir! I appreciate your insightful work in the field. I believe it would be beneficial to consider offering a certificate program in Occult & Esoteric Literature. I’m confident it would attract very strong interest, even though developing the curriculum itself could be quite a task. As I finish my graduate degree in Humanities, I see great potential in such an offering - I certainly would sign up, especially given your expertise. It’s encouraging to see occult literature gaining recognition as a legitimate area of study and research beyond individually curtailed programs in Humanities and Cultural Anthropology.
Great video, As someone who owns Clement Salaman, Dorine van Oyen, William D. Wharton, and Jean-Pierre Mahe translation I can't wait to read this new translation. I Cannot wait to see what was a editon and how this is ordered. Can not wait.
@@hechticgaming7193 IMO The Life of Brian is the best movie about Jesus ever made. I personally think friends of a a rando antiRoman Judean a bit like the character Brian during the time of Judas the Gallilean or his sons is a plausible basis for how the stories of "Jesus" got started. Given the black hole of 1st c evidemce for an actual Jesus it is as good a hypothesis as any.
Isn't it fascinating that modern historical science and philolohy may cast light on ancient mysteries, despite so many intelligent people having mulled over it in the past? - Adûnâi
That was a good point about the Alexandrian pogrom. You have Alexandrian Judaism that suddenly goes silent and now Alexandrian Christianity is on the scene in a developed form. Something else weird going on there as Clement and Origen are completely unaware of the other.
Re: Her-Mess-Ica; it was my understanding that the discourses of Hermes descended as actual spoken discourses, like the Buddhas sermons in a way, only written down later. It makes sense to me that Hermeticists would change the text, since I'm sure the spoken discourses themselves would change over time. 🤷
Do you ever speak of Poimandres? If not, why? Have you ever made a video about "him?" Thank you. I love your presentation--very approachable. I appreciate that so much.
"You better behave yourself, little mister! I know your dad!" me, to the demiurge, when something unpleasant threatens to happen. (If i get in trouble for it, I'm blaming this channel.)
Question! At present, which translation of the corpus hermeticum do you recommend while we wait for the new releases? Also do you happen to know if maybe there's a better spanish translation?
@@Lapidarydiary Dr David Litwa, the speaker on the right in this video! I really recommend the book, I was so fascinated by everything I was reading that I just couldn't put the book down.
Dole Office Clerk: Occupation? Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. Dole Office Clerk: What? Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension. Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a *bullshit* artist!
There are TWO creations, though. The original creation, good and made from light, and the FALLEN creation, the one that creates all the problems and contradictions. Really difficult to sort this out via the anclent Greeks who were wrestling with all this prior to the Christ event.
You know what i cannot comprehend? The "count down" before the christ came. If we look at older calenders like the mayan calender they were not counting down to anything. Do you know how backwards that would work to count down the date instead of what we are doing now wich is count forward. I mean think about it. Something happend and what we are told makes no sense what so ever. Time keeping back then would be so weird, just saying. Cheers
For those who don´t know what i´m getting at, it´s about when are we really? And did someone screw up on time keeping? On purpose? Did they make changes before that are time related? Julian kalender? Why?
Is the "gibberish" gibberish or is it "barbaric names/words" that are there to place the person doing the workings into a mental state to accept the weird stuff that will happen when doing the magical work? Look at the Headless/Bornless ritual. Strings of seeming nonsense but a part of the working to get the practitioner into the magical mindset. Can't remove Egypt from Greek thought...they "borrowed" too much. Positive and negative aspects of the planets and their influence on the practitioner sounds like working through banishing/cleansing and invoking of those planetary energies.
there I go talking to my self again; same basic ideas but through cultural lenses pointing in some senses to the least/most common (or thickest) denominator... oh exhausting.
0:30 - I had to really squint at the screen for a bit because that background made Litwa look MEGA RICH, and I was immediately sus about conspicuous consumption and how he makes so much money to afford a house like that... But after he moved and I saw some white pixel-ghosting along the side of his head and sleeve, I realized it was a background-replacement filter. Suddenly felt MUCH better. This is that AI takeover in action, fr. If it had been SUPER out there, like pretending to stream from deep in a forest or underwater or Mars, I wouldn't fear it, cuz it was so OBVIOUSLY false. But the fact that it's so CLOSE to reality... That's the dangerous part. We'll never be afraid of robots with metal tube arms. But the Stepford Wives fooled everyone until it was too late... Sorry, that was mega off-topic, but it really made me suspicious of him, and that's not what either of the hosts want, I'm sure!
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"The liberation of existence through Occultism is the dissolution of the ego into the shadows of the unknown, where the spirit breaks free from the chains of matter and merges with the infinite."
@@AleisterCrowleyDiary Dropping forbidden truth bombs. DARPA has noted your comment.
Nicely penned mate.
Read. Occult. Classics. Early century. Question everything. Know yourself. Develope a theory Push past the dramatic bullshit. Insightful experience through the darkness...Keep the journey forward. Meditation. Silence. Detach. Read. Pray. Guidance. Enlightenment. Pray. Hush... Detach from your social self and spiritual self. No fear....deeper you go....your light still shines in the darkness. Read. Pray. Tree of knowledge. Know yourself. Know your place. Be tactful. Not a crazy person. Conspiracy theories level 1....then so on and so on.
Meditation. Vibration. Seek infinite. My soul will be ready the the presence of the great Light.
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@@achunaryan3418 🙂🙂🙂
In just a word: FANTASTIC!!!
Dr. Litwa is a rare jewel.
Thank you so very much, Dr. Sledge!!!
🙏🏼
Demiurge stuff 😍
I’m loving it!
I love this topic.
One of my favorite topics!
Eeeey the team up we always need! Keep up the great work, gentlemen 👏⚒️
This discussion is timely- I'm nose-deep in Hanegraaf, Bull, and Fowden for the talk coming up next month
These conversations are so important, Dr. Litwa is one of my favorite author/researcher and so to see you both get at the core of these topics is wonderful
wow what a guest, what a creator. Two brilliant minds. Excellent!
Love Dr. Litwa, been subscribed since the last time you were drawing on his knowledge and sending people his way and I do not regret it, his channel deserves to blow up!
Thanks for this interesting conversation between two giants of the field. The bridge between theoretical academic study and practice is one that needs to be built or maybe if it is already here, maintained and made wider and longer. Great that you are also thinking about this.
I misread the title as "Macron". Didn't have him pegged as a hermeticist, but I'm admittedly no expert on French politics.
I've seen that as a typo in a comment before and wondered for a second why he was being brought up in a discussion about Nicea
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Dr. Litwa is amazing! I can't wait to listen to this.
Sorry I missed the Live (power out). For those who haven’t read The Evil Creator, please grab a copy. It is quite readable, tons of notes (more books to find 😆). Fully intend to read more of his work. Thanks for having Litwa join you, Dr Sledge. ❤
Wow. I just read The Evil Creator two weeks ago. Now I can hear it my memory with Dr. Litwa’s voice. :) absolutely captivating.
This actualy brings me so much joy on so many levels ❤️ you guys are Awsome.
I always eagerly await any of your work regarding the hermetica, so I was so excited to see this come across my feed. Thank you!
At around the 46:50 mark is a prime example of conversations and books that lead me away from religion as a "believer" but opened so much more of an interesting dialog for research, understanding and historical context that was infinity more interesting and fulfilling. Thank you for having conversations like these in an approachable venue.
I rather pay him full price for the book directly via pdf - no publisher needed.
I concur
2 vids in one day. Thank you so much 🙏🏾
as I listen to you too talking about unemployed, hermetic priests, I cannot help, but think of the lot of the writer, the artist, and the literary translator in the United States.
Great discussion!
I didn’t really understand how Neoplatonism and the Hermetica were Egyptian until I read Philosophy as a Rite of Rebirth: From Ancient Egypt to Neoplatonism by Algis Uzdavinys, painstakingly proves Neoplatonism and Hermetica are not only not Greek but hostile to a fully foreign doctrine despite taking on their language
Ty for the recommendation
Great talk! I appreciate so much both of your works
You should release videos as premieres so your students can hang out and argue while the video is playing
Good luck to Dr Litwa
Education for life should be a core principle of civilised societies.
You had me at Demiurge.... more on this topic!
Just bought the book cant wait to listen.
I love you channel. As a Christian I might disagree with some of your interpretations of early Christianity but your material always enriches my knowledge and understanding. I have one slight criticism. When you discuss Christians in the 2nd century latching onto Egyptian mythology for its antiquaty as others latched onto Jewish. The Jewish connection was origianal, with both Jesus and his disiples being Jewish. The oldest Christian writings are the New Testement books and they are steeped in Jewish beliefs.
Hermetics direct you back to God and encourage religion, piety.
Brilliant, sir! I appreciate your insightful work in the field. I believe it would be beneficial to consider offering a certificate program in Occult & Esoteric Literature. I’m confident it would attract very strong interest, even though developing the curriculum itself could be quite a task. As I finish my graduate degree in Humanities, I see great potential in such an offering - I certainly would sign up, especially given your expertise. It’s encouraging to see occult literature gaining recognition as a legitimate area of study and research beyond individually curtailed programs in Humanities and Cultural Anthropology.
Enjoyed the book. Very Informative.
Two of my favourite youtubers.
Thank you for what you do***
Great video, As someone who owns Clement Salaman, Dorine van Oyen, William D. Wharton, and Jean-Pierre Mahe translation I can't wait to read this new translation. I
Cannot wait to see what was a editon and how this is ordered. Can not wait.
I always enjoy your content, keep it up
First here to prove how autistic I am
REAL ESOTERIC AUTISM HOURS, WHO UP?
@@sepulchureXmcmlxiiIma start an esoteric autistic ADHD channel
Love the Life of Brian work in.... We are all individuals..... I'm not...
@@hechticgaming7193 IMO The Life of Brian is the best movie about Jesus ever made. I personally think friends of a a rando antiRoman Judean a bit like the character Brian during the time of Judas the Gallilean or his sons is a plausible basis for how the stories of "Jesus" got started. Given the black hole of 1st c evidemce for an actual Jesus it is as good a hypothesis as any.
@@JC-vq2cs I think Jesus, the historical one any way, was a revolutionary for sure. No doubt in my mind. Also, how much do you hate the Romans....?
Agreed!
"He's not the Messiah. He's just a very naughty boy." - Brian's mum.
Definitely hyped about more Gnostic lore 🫡🫡👏👏🌞
I am subscribed to Dr Litwa.
We must really be special today😇😇😇
Love from a MiniMinuteMan and Vaush fan!
Damn the Archons! I'll be paying Audible a visit.
Education Archons.....RIGHTEOUS!!!
Ain't nothin' but a Demiurge thang babay (sang with my best Snoop Dog voice 😄)
Good to remember the demiurge in Hermetism was a good guy - they weren’t plagued by the guilt and paranoia of Christian Gnostics
Yes! Demiurge!
Love me some Esoterlitwa
Thanks
Isn't it fascinating that modern historical science and philolohy may cast light on ancient mysteries, despite so many intelligent people having mulled over it in the past?
- Adûnâi
Dr. Litwa is one of my favorite scholars not named Justin Sledge.
That was a good point about the Alexandrian pogrom. You have Alexandrian Judaism that suddenly goes silent and now Alexandrian Christianity is on the scene in a developed form. Something else weird going on there as Clement and Origen are completely unaware of the other.
New intro. Nice.
Nice but I still preferred the previous intro.
Re: Her-Mess-Ica; it was my understanding that the discourses of Hermes descended as actual spoken discourses, like the Buddhas sermons in a way, only written down later. It makes sense to me that Hermeticists would change the text, since I'm sure the spoken discourses themselves would change over time. 🤷
Yrs its on audible!! ❤
Do you ever speak of Poimandres? If not, why?
Have you ever made a video about "him?"
Thank you. I love your presentation--very approachable. I appreciate that so much.
Gonna subscribe to this guy
"You better behave yourself, little mister! I know your dad!"
me, to the demiurge, when something unpleasant threatens to happen.
(If i get in trouble for it, I'm blaming this channel.)
@@vapormissile He will smite youuuuuu…. 😊
My personal experience today with the majority of Christians is that they are really Paulines.
Great!
Yesss
Hell yeah 🖤👽🤘
Question! At present, which translation of the corpus hermeticum do you recommend while we wait for the new releases? Also do you happen to know if maybe there's a better spanish translation?
How does the demiurge tie in with Kabbalistic concept of emanations? Which came first, and is there an overlap?
3% royalty 😢 💔 I paid $168 AUD for The Evil Creator in 2021, I advise everyone snatch it up at the lower price now. Its a crucial text.
I see tne Hermetic code. Where was the Marcion code? Thx!
In what way exactly will folks be surprised by the Wildberg translation? The conversation merely teased this but didn’t hint at its flavor.
Basic features like the centrality of astrology are ejected from the texts in his edition. That alone is huge.
@@TheEsotericaChannel ah, got it. Thank you!
This is such an amazing coincidence, I finished reading The Evil Creator just a few days ago. Looking forward to the video :)
Captivating title. Who wrote it?
@@Lapidarydiary Dr David Litwa, the speaker on the right in this video! I really recommend the book, I was so fascinated by everything I was reading that I just couldn't put the book down.
@@AquarelleBlueI just noticed he said it in the beginning of the vid. Must have missed it. Cheers
Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher.
Dole Office Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a *bullshit* artist!
Why do I get the suspicion that Litwa is speaking from a broom closet in a basement in a building on the Boston College campus?
As per the unethical academic "cartel" -- I would love to potentially discuss a new venture with Dr. Litwa and yourself, actually. ;)
Let's do it!
@@TheEsotericaChannel Will email real soon (still fulfilling the massive KS campaign BUT it should be done really soon ;)
There are TWO creations, though. The original creation, good and made from light, and the FALLEN creation, the one that creates all the problems and contradictions. Really difficult to sort this out via the anclent Greeks who were wrestling with all this prior to the Christ event.
At last!!
So, is Mead's Translation completely unreliable?
Not completely but ..
Is there a way we could speak, didn’t see a message button on your patreon
You're welcome to contact me via my website
Blessed are the Cheesemakers.
Anatolian theologian is fun to say.
Another awesome episode of Erotica, thanks prof
Are we ever find more lost gospels!
Probably
Probably it was a sect that use hermetic a books with magical amulets like Valentin Ian Marcus.
How do you measure half an urge? 🤔
Yet we must merge with the urge of the demiurge ?
Very Demiurge, very Marcion
You know what i cannot comprehend? The "count down" before the christ came. If we look at older calenders like the mayan calender they were not counting down to anything. Do you know how backwards that would work to count down the date instead of what we are doing now wich is count forward. I mean think about it. Something happend and what we are told makes no sense what so ever. Time keeping back then would be so weird, just saying. Cheers
For those who don´t know what i´m getting at, it´s about when are we really? And did someone screw up on time keeping? On purpose? Did they make changes before that are time related? Julian kalender? Why?
Is the "gibberish" gibberish or is it "barbaric names/words" that are there to place the person doing the workings into a mental state to accept the weird stuff that will happen when doing the magical work? Look at the Headless/Bornless ritual. Strings of seeming nonsense but a part of the working to get the practitioner into the magical mindset.
Can't remove Egypt from Greek thought...they "borrowed" too much.
Positive and negative aspects of the planets and their influence on the practitioner sounds like working through banishing/cleansing and invoking of those planetary energies.
It's not gibberish, it's just "barely literate Greek"
Make great evil scholarly again.. boy did I get that word order wrong somehow???
planets as opposed Greek "logic" i.e metaphysics
there I go talking to my self again; same basic ideas but through cultural lenses pointing in some senses to the least/most common (or thickest) denominator... oh exhausting.
very demure
@@MrRedark98 very dem(i)ur(g)e, very mindful
0:30 - I had to really squint at the screen for a bit because that background made Litwa look MEGA RICH, and I was immediately sus about conspicuous consumption and how he makes so much money to afford a house like that... But after he moved and I saw some white pixel-ghosting along the side of his head and sleeve, I realized it was a background-replacement filter. Suddenly felt MUCH better.
This is that AI takeover in action, fr. If it had been SUPER out there, like pretending to stream from deep in a forest or underwater or Mars, I wouldn't fear it, cuz it was so OBVIOUSLY false. But the fact that it's so CLOSE to reality... That's the dangerous part. We'll never be afraid of robots with metal tube arms. But the Stepford Wives fooled everyone until it was too late...
Sorry, that was mega off-topic, but it really made me suspicious of him, and that's not what either of the hosts want, I'm sure!
There is a bit of irony in discussing being trapped in a false world while simultaneously creating them for ourselves digitally, eh? ;)
"Hermetist " ffs
Demiurge is the husk or the trash that comes from God creating pure goodness or a man trying to eat more each day rather than share
hell yes