That specification that acronyms should be both descriptive of the project and easy to pronounce would explain why NASA names projects things like JUICE (JUpiter ICy moon Explorer), MAVEN (Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution missioN), or GOES (Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite. "Operational" means that it follows a designated operation, not just that the satellite is functional). Also, while not a project name, NASA does show off how nerdy they are with the acronym for their Commercial, Crew, and Cargo Program Office: C3PO.
"Snoopy" and "Charlie Brown" were not the names of parts of the Saturn V Rocket Per se but of its payloads, the Command Module and Lunar Module But you did say Apollo Spacecraft in the voice over so fair enough
I seem to remember during the early development of the ISS, there WERE names attached to it, originally Freedom Station (a fully NASA project, which the European and Japanese Space Agencies were later invited to join). The modules it is constructed of DO have names (Unity, Zvesda and Kibo to name a few).
9:10 The names _Snoopy_ and _Charlie Brown_ were given to the Lunar Module and Command Module (capsule) respectively, which are at the pointy end of the Apollo rocket.
"harmony" seems like a good name for an international space station -- though maybe the next one since the current one is close to the end of its service life
Harmony is actually already used as the name of one of the modules of the ISS. It’s a module that allows for several other modules to be connected together. Another connecting module aboard ISS is named Unity.
@@joshridderhoff2050 I think reusing a module name for a whole new station would be pretty reasonable. I've never really liked "unity". Unity implies an unrealistic same-ness between parties, and I find that people craving "unity" end up disrespecting those differences. Harmony just means working well together, and I think people with lots of differences working together is a much more beautiful concept.
The modules of the International Space Station have interesting names. My favorite naming story regards Node 3. NASA held an online naming contest. Among the official suggestions, Serenity - the name of the ship in Firefly - won, but didn't do as well as the top voter-suggested name, Colbert - named after Stephen Colbert. The node wound up being called Tranquility, but they came up with a clever nickname for the treadmill that would be installed in said module: the COLBERT.
The IAU have very interesting naming conventions. Features on Charon are named after Destinations and milestones of fictional space and other exploration. Fictional and mythological vessels of space and other exploration. Fictional and mythological voyagers, travellers and explorers. features like Gallifrey Macula Tardis Chasma Oz Terra Skywalker crater and features on Kerberos must be named after dogs from literature, mythology and history.
It used to be Breakfast, Dinner, Supper and now its Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner and i think the change is recent so older folks and southerners simply still use the older names.
9:09 Charlie Brown was the Command Module, Snoopy was the Lunar Excursion Module, previously known as LEM 4 by the manufacturer. The stages had serial numbers, S-IC 505, S-II 505, and S-IVB 505.
Don’t forget that Star Trek fans did a mass letter writing campaign to get NASA to name one of the shuttles Enterprise. This is both the stupidest and coolest thing Trekkies have ever done.
This always made me wonder if Star Trek exists in Star Trek,since the Shuttle Enterprise exists in the universe- Oh yeah and theres also that observational facility in the ISS named WORF
@@UlmDoesAnything i think most shows accidentally exist in their own universes by why of these sorts of references. Make a star wars reference in the MCU (cannon), well star wars contains mace windu played by Samuel Jackson who also plays Nick Fury who has some explaining to do about being an actor. And obviously Star Trek has the Shuttle Enterprise as cannon and it was named for the Enterprise in the show, of course they show's cannon could have it be named for the WW2 Carrier (which was named for a wooden ship) and get around the loophole. I think the most difficult one to undo would be if you referanced something like Futurama, Southpark, or Family Guy as a cannon show that exists in your universe because they parodied basically everything famous multiple times. (Or if it chained by having a sitcom that referenced Family Guy that referances you). Tldr, it happens alot and star trek could write away that plot holes but if you referance another show in yours it quickly can spiral out of hand and become a full circle paradox. (You could embrace it with someone timetraveling and writing the show as a documentary framed as scifi)
If this is just another SpaceX simping comment, mind you SpaceX is supported by NASA and they probably wouldnt have gone anywhere without them NASA gave them the funding and even a purpose to launch their crafts.
@@lucienz1846 to be a pedant, JWST went up using an Ariane 5, which is ESA's. NASA definitely has some capabilities though, especially with SLS finally coming around.
Fun fact:during the constellation program, the launch vehicles were named Ares I and Ares V,the Ares I was Originally called CLV,meaning Crew launch vehicle,but they renamed it to Ares I, as on of the goals of the CxP (abbreviation for constellation program)was to land people on Mars,and Ares is the Greek equivalent of the roman Mars. 2nd fun fact:in the CxP ,the lunar lander was named altair,meaning eagle, which was constellation, and the famous orion craft,was also named after a constellation
I expected this video to cover how they name space objects like star systems, galaxies, asteroids, etc. You know, like the ones that seem to have codes for names. I still think that could be an interesting topic
Most of those are basically just incremental additions so Wolf-315 is the 315th star a scientist named Wolf found, then everyone orbiting the Primary gets a letter (usually radially outward or discovery order), and then moons would be numbered again. Its super boring because space is super big and there is so much stuff to discover. Eventually a committee (typically international) will get arround to naming the more interesting ones either by a clever scheme or just asking the public to vote / suggest names. I would also like a more detailed video on the subject to see exactly how the naming scheme works for newly discovered/identified stars/celestial bodies. (Different organizations probably have different schemes, or it could be as simple as whatever you want the way new species get named by the finder whatever they want which results in some clever ones like the time a scientist was dared to name something "Han Solo" and did in a way that kinda fits as it was the only one of its kind and found in china)
'Columbia (which you misspelt!) for all of their shuttles'? Have you never heard of USSS Challenger, USSS Enterprise, USSS Discovery, or USSS Atlantis?
ISIS is the Egyptian goddess of the moon, magic, and was all around a very important goddess. Its just unfortunate that a certain group of idiots ruined the acronym, which happens alot in history. (The tainting of the association of a symbol/name/ext from something good to representing an evil group. Like what the Nazis did to the swastika, a Hindu symbol for thousands of years before WW2.)
@@vladutcornel i assumed the english speaking media translated the name as "Islamic State In Country" creating all the ISIX names. Out of curiosity is Daesh a more proper translation of what the group called itself in Arabic? And our media is very sensationalized so them picking something easy to say on loop 24/7 is no surprise. (They really need to keep political stuff to 1hr segments near meal times and only do 24/7 weather and similar updates instead of the current circus they do)
I think "Olympus" would be cool, but I think that it would be a bit close to NASA's greater naming scheme, so I think "The Unity Station" would be a good name.
ISS was actually referred to as ‘Alpha’ in its early days, although mostly just internally at NASA and used as a callsign by astronauts aboard when communicating with mission control. It wasn’t as popular with international partners and was dropped; astronauts now use the simple callsign ‘Station’ when speaking on the radio.
You know that will win an internet poll every time. (And they will end up naming a smaller section that to try and have some dignity in the SMSSF not being the name for the most important science lab for the next 20-30years after launch)
This is just be spitballing ideas out, but I think that the ISS should be named after a Star Trek or a Star Wars name. Imagine a spacecraft being named after YODA or R2DT! 😍😂
It's interesting that you're talking about NASA's naming procedure _while there is an ongoing controversy over the name of a very famous program_ and you didn't mention it at all. Were you worried about demonetization or were you simply unaware of the controversy? (It turns out James Webb was a homophobic McCarthyite, but he's still being honored by a very prestigious namesake spacecraft.)
I was unaware of the controversy but if we're being honest a lot of historical figures were terrible people; alot of celebs today are terrible people and still get worshipped so i will excuse a scientist born in 1906 when racism and homophobia was very much the norm for not having the same values as today. (Cartoons and Disney movies from the 90s don't even hold up to 2022 standards)
Excusing him is different from honoring him, @@jasonreed7522. The fact that a lot of historical figures were terrible people is a reason to think twice before treating _anyone_ like a hero. It's a childish streak in our society that feels the need for heroes, and it does us all good to grow up a little and honor the achievement itself rather than trying to find a single human being to give credit for it.
If you could name a rocket what would you call it?
I would call it "Up Goer Five"
Id just do Sci Fi references like Star Trek reference
"Phoenix", "Stargazer", "ENTERPRISE", etc
Untitled Space Craft
phallic euphemism
greg
That specification that acronyms should be both descriptive of the project and easy to pronounce would explain why NASA names projects things like JUICE (JUpiter ICy moon Explorer), MAVEN (Mars Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution missioN), or GOES (Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite. "Operational" means that it follows a designated operation, not just that the satellite is functional). Also, while not a project name, NASA does show off how nerdy they are with the acronym for their Commercial, Crew, and Cargo Program Office: C3PO.
better than CCCP that's for darn sure
"Snoopy" and "Charlie Brown" were not the names of parts of the Saturn V Rocket Per se but of its payloads, the Command Module and Lunar Module
But you did say Apollo Spacecraft in the voice over so fair enough
I seem to remember during the early development of the ISS, there WERE names attached to it, originally Freedom Station (a fully NASA project, which the European and Japanese Space Agencies were later invited to join).
The modules it is constructed of DO have names (Unity, Zvesda and Kibo to name a few).
Yeah there was Space Station Freedom fot America/Japan/Europe and Mir-2 for the Russian's stuff
ISS was also briefly referred to as ‘Alpha’ early in the station’s life, too (primarily as a callsign when communicating with mission control).
@@joshridderhoff2050 oh yeah that too
9:10 The names _Snoopy_ and _Charlie Brown_ were given to the Lunar Module and Command Module (capsule) respectively, which are at the pointy end of the Apollo rocket.
"harmony" seems like a good name for an international space station -- though maybe the next one since the current one is close to the end of its service life
Harmony is actually already used as the name of one of the modules of the ISS. It’s a module that allows for several other modules to be connected together. Another connecting module aboard ISS is named Unity.
@@joshridderhoff2050 I think reusing a module name for a whole new station would be pretty reasonable.
I've never really liked "unity". Unity implies an unrealistic same-ness between parties, and I find that people craving "unity" end up disrespecting those differences. Harmony just means working well together, and I think people with lots of differences working together is a much more beautiful concept.
The modules of the International Space Station have interesting names. My favorite naming story regards Node 3. NASA held an online naming contest. Among the official suggestions, Serenity - the name of the ship in Firefly - won, but didn't do as well as the top voter-suggested name, Colbert - named after Stephen Colbert. The node wound up being called Tranquility, but they came up with a clever nickname for the treadmill that would be installed in said module: the COLBERT.
Dont forget the WORF window facility
The IAU have very interesting naming conventions.
Features on Charon are named after
Destinations and milestones of fictional space and other exploration.
Fictional and mythological vessels of space and other exploration.
Fictional and mythological voyagers, travellers and explorers.
features like
Gallifrey Macula
Tardis Chasma
Oz Terra
Skywalker crater
and features on Kerberos must be named after dogs from literature, mythology and history.
The predecessor to NASA was the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics, NACA.
8:30
I think you mean "Columbia"
And also "Discovery" but to be fair for that there is a DSCOVR probe
Anyway, still nice video
Love the KSP music in the background :)
Can you do a video explaining the names of meals of the day? maybe also explaining why southerners call it supper
It used to be Breakfast, Dinner, Supper and now its Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner and i think the change is recent so older folks and southerners simply still use the older names.
9:09 Charlie Brown was the Command Module, Snoopy was the Lunar Excursion Module, previously known as LEM 4 by the manufacturer. The stages had serial numbers, S-IC 505, S-II 505, and S-IVB 505.
"oh wow, a new planet, I'll name it HK792jii96--owkdo!"
Excellent topic - Thanks for this wonderfully entertaining channel, Patrick!
I love the ksp space music in the background. Very fitting
Don’t forget that Star Trek fans did a mass letter writing campaign to get NASA to name one of the shuttles Enterprise. This is both the stupidest and coolest thing Trekkies have ever done.
This always made me wonder if Star Trek exists in Star Trek,since the Shuttle Enterprise exists in the universe-
Oh yeah and theres also that observational facility in the ISS named WORF
I always thought Shuttle Enterprise was named for CV-6 USS Enterprise.
@@jasperbarnes4544 nope, it was supposed to be named the Constitution until Trek fans spammed letters to name it Enterprise
@@UlmDoesAnything i think most shows accidentally exist in their own universes by why of these sorts of references.
Make a star wars reference in the MCU (cannon), well star wars contains mace windu played by Samuel Jackson who also plays Nick Fury who has some explaining to do about being an actor.
And obviously Star Trek has the Shuttle Enterprise as cannon and it was named for the Enterprise in the show, of course they show's cannon could have it be named for the WW2 Carrier (which was named for a wooden ship) and get around the loophole.
I think the most difficult one to undo would be if you referanced something like Futurama, Southpark, or Family Guy as a cannon show that exists in your universe because they parodied basically everything famous multiple times. (Or if it chained by having a sitcom that referenced Family Guy that referances you).
Tldr, it happens alot and star trek could write away that plot holes but if you referance another show in yours it quickly can spiral out of hand and become a full circle paradox. (You could embrace it with someone timetraveling and writing the show as a documentary framed as scifi)
11:17 i remember doing the same thing but it is about mars (don't remember the name of the mission
Some of y’all are too young to remember this, but NASA used to be able to go to space.
Allegedly able to go to space.
They still do
They literally launched James Webb in December and are test launching the SLS March 17th
If this is just another SpaceX simping comment, mind you SpaceX is supported by NASA and they probably wouldnt have gone anywhere without them
NASA gave them the funding and even a purpose to launch their crafts.
@@lucienz1846 to be a pedant, JWST went up using an Ariane 5, which is ESA's. NASA definitely has some capabilities though, especially with SLS finally coming around.
Fun fact:during the constellation program, the launch vehicles were named Ares I and Ares V,the Ares I was Originally called CLV,meaning Crew launch vehicle,but they renamed it to Ares I, as on of the goals of the CxP (abbreviation for constellation program)was to land people on Mars,and Ares is the Greek equivalent of the roman Mars.
2nd fun fact:in the CxP ,the lunar lander was named altair,meaning eagle, which was constellation, and the famous orion craft,was also named after a constellation
I expected this video to cover how they name space objects like star systems, galaxies, asteroids, etc. You know, like the ones that seem to have codes for names. I still think that could be an interesting topic
Most of those are basically just incremental additions so Wolf-315 is the 315th star a scientist named Wolf found, then everyone orbiting the Primary gets a letter (usually radially outward or discovery order), and then moons would be numbered again. Its super boring because space is super big and there is so much stuff to discover.
Eventually a committee (typically international) will get arround to naming the more interesting ones either by a clever scheme or just asking the public to vote / suggest names.
I would also like a more detailed video on the subject to see exactly how the naming scheme works for newly discovered/identified stars/celestial bodies. (Different organizations probably have different schemes, or it could be as simple as whatever you want the way new species get named by the finder whatever they want which results in some clever ones like the time a scientist was dared to name something "Han Solo" and did in a way that kinda fits as it was the only one of its kind and found in china)
The modules on the ISS have names.
Is there the theme melody of KSP in the background?
Along with nasa shirts it’d be interesting to see irs, cia, nsa shirts, among others.
2:53 "Sputnik" does not mean traveler, it means companion (or accompanier, concomitant person/object) and satellite. Instead, "Putnik" means traveler.
You forgot the tidbit about the shuttle enterprise being named after a fictional star ship
The strict naming has to do with the IAU
We should call the ISS Olympus
'Columbia (which you misspelt!) for all of their shuttles'? Have you never heard of USSS Challenger, USSS Enterprise, USSS Discovery, or USSS Atlantis?
There were cats on Mars until we sent Curiosity there.
They dodged one when they didn't name it International Station In Space, so they can have an easy to pronounce acronym.
ISIS is the Egyptian goddess of the moon, magic, and was all around a very important goddess.
Its just unfortunate that a certain group of idiots ruined the acronym, which happens alot in history. (The tainting of the association of a symbol/name/ext from something good to representing an evil group. Like what the Nazis did to the swastika, a Hindu symbol for thousands of years before WW2.)
@@jasonreed7522 It's not their fault.
English-speaking media could have gone with ISIL or Daesh, but ISIS was more catchy.
@@vladutcornel i assumed the english speaking media translated the name as "Islamic State In Country" creating all the ISIX names.
Out of curiosity is Daesh a more proper translation of what the group called itself in Arabic?
And our media is very sensationalized so them picking something easy to say on loop 24/7 is no surprise. (They really need to keep political stuff to 1hr segments near meal times and only do 24/7 weather and similar updates instead of the current circus they do)
I think "Olympus" would be cool, but I think that it would be a bit close to NASA's greater naming scheme, so I think "The Unity Station" would be a good name.
I'd call the ISS Izzy, or Isstaphobe.
The ISS kinda looks like a minecraft phantom
"His wife, Juno, now gets to be with him too." Or to put it another way, NASA sent Jupiter's wife up to snoop on him and his side pieces.
The International Space Station was once Space Station Freedom & Alpha.
Nerds love their categorizations, and the more, bigger nerds you get the more, harder categories you get. God bless 'em
I've heard multiple NASA people refer to the ISS by using 'ISS' as a noun rather than 'the ISS'
The Space Launch System yes the new moon rocket is an acronym to be fair to NASA it was coined by congress jet they have not changed it since.
Yet with a J, that works.
Meanwhile, SpaceX: I quite like dragons, so I named it Dragon.
It's just a matter of time until Elon starts calling rockets "Fuck Unions" and "Deep Fried Poor People."
Oasis 1 or Oasis Alpha or Alpha Station
For ISS name.
ISS was actually referred to as ‘Alpha’ in its early days, although mostly just internally at NASA and used as a callsign by astronauts aboard when communicating with mission control. It wasn’t as popular with international partners and was dropped; astronauts now use the simple callsign ‘Station’ when speaking on the radio.
Spacey McSpacestationface of course.
You know that will win an internet poll every time. (And they will end up naming a smaller section that to try and have some dignity in the SMSSF not being the name for the most important science lab for the next 20-30years after launch)
@@jasonreed7522 what do you mean? it is a perfectly fine name:P
12:58 Terra
This is just be spitballing ideas out, but I think that the ISS should be named after a Star Trek or a Star Wars name. Imagine a spacecraft being named after YODA or R2DT! 😍😂
Yeah... no
Where is this planet, "Erf" you keep referencing?
Getting the public to name things is how you end up with Boatie McBoatFace
Sputnik isn't traveler its companion in Russian
I'd call the ISS, Icarius or something cool
Their job isn’t to entertain you.
It's interesting that you're talking about NASA's naming procedure _while there is an ongoing controversy over the name of a very famous program_ and you didn't mention it at all. Were you worried about demonetization or were you simply unaware of the controversy? (It turns out James Webb was a homophobic McCarthyite, but he's still being honored by a very prestigious namesake spacecraft.)
I was unaware of the controversy but if we're being honest a lot of historical figures were terrible people; alot of celebs today are terrible people and still get worshipped so i will excuse a scientist born in 1906 when racism and homophobia was very much the norm for not having the same values as today. (Cartoons and Disney movies from the 90s don't even hold up to 2022 standards)
Excusing him is different from honoring him, @@jasonreed7522.
The fact that a lot of historical figures were terrible people is a reason to think twice before treating _anyone_ like a hero. It's a childish streak in our society that feels the need for heroes, and it does us all good to grow up a little and honor the achievement itself rather than trying to find a single human being to give credit for it.
sneeze.
Cough
This story is incorrect with some of these fakes
XD