Rebuilding a 283 Small Block for a Daily Driver C10 - HorsePower S12, E7
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- The HorsePower guys help their buddies from Trucks! by building a decent daily driver motor for their Chevy C-10. Nothing fancy, just a basic, dependable street engine that makes good power.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Magnaflow: Magna-Pack exhaust kit.
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Magnaflow: Three inch crossmember back system for GM A-Bodies, 100% Stainless Steel tubing, Tru-X crossover pipe.
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ARP: Head bolts, rod bolts, oil pump driveshaft, accessory kit.
BBK Performance: Cold air intake kit.
BBK Performance: Long tube ceramic coated header.
BBK Performance: Short mid x-pipe with catalytic convertors.
BBK Performance: Twin 62 MM Throttle Body.
BBK Performance: Underdrive pulley set.
BLP Products Inc.: Custom carb, 1432 CFM Holley Dominator style carb.
Crane Cams: Camshafts, springs and retainers.
Dupli-Color: Chevrolet Orange engine enamel.
Eagle Specialty Products: Stroker rotating assembly, H-beam rods, Arias pistons, Speed Pro bearings.
Edelbrock: 600 CFM Electric choke Performer series carb.
Edelbrock: Cam kit with lifters and lube, Timing set, & Pushrods.
Edelbrock: Mechanical fuel pump.
Edelbrock: Performer EPS intake manifold with oil fill tube.
Eibach: 1.3 Front/1.4 Rear lowering springs.
Federal-Mogul Corporation: Exhaust gaskets, intake gaskets, head gaskets, fuel pump gasket, plate to block gasket, rear main seal, valve cover gaskets, timing cover gasket, water neck gasket, oil pan gasket.
Federal-Mogul Corporation: Sealed Power .030 pistons, .030 rings, cam bearings, main bearings, rod bearings.
Fidanza: Chrome moly driveshaft.
Huntsville Engine and Performance: Porting and polishing heads, fitting block for machine work.
Loctite: Loctite sealers, thread locking compounds, gasket making compounds.
Mr. Gasket: Oil filter spin-on adaptor.
Pro 5.0: Short throw shifter.
Summit Racing: Carb studs, Air Cleaner, Distributor, Balancer and Flexplate with bolts, roller rockers, timing cover, timing tab, headers, ALT. bracket, oil pump and pickup, & World Products cylinder heads.
Summit Racing: Electric water pump by Proform.
Taylor Cable Products: Thundervolt 50 spark plug wire set.
Tire Rack: 19 x 8.5 ASA JH9 245/45R19 Yokohama Advan S4.
Zoom Performance: Flywheel, clutch, pressure plate, alignment tool.
The 283 and 327 were great engines back in the day. They ran well, and were almost indestructible.
327 4 bolt double hump fuelie heads = my choice over 350 for street !
@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm did they make a 4bolt 327...
Yeah, the 350 is more like a tire melter that can't get anywhere stalling while the 327 moves out perfect in all of the pony cars in mine opinion. 350 needs too much tire and that negates the extra cubes and fuel consumption.@@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm
@@zAvAvAzLoL your thinking about a 318. Everyone knows MOPAR ruled the heavy Chevy's
im boutta start messing with a 283 that has been molested to 337 cubic inches
Awesome baby pumpkin, just right for a working truck
I built a 283 dual quad and dropped it in my buddy’s 1992 Jaguar. She ran like a champ.
I bet that was a fun little ride with a V8 in the Jaaaaahhhhhhgggggg. .
It was! I have a handful of video clips I need to compile so I can put it on TH-cam.
Awesome informative Video experience
Is the crank forged or ground away casting marks ??
he told my boy Joe to go sit down
The days of being able to yank a powertrain/drivetrain completely, disassemble, fix/upgrade, reassemble, shove powertrain/drivetrain back in, crank up & drive off all in one day with sunlight the whole time using jacks, 6 hand tools, cardboard/wife's old dress & ingenuity with commonsenss, is gone but not forgotten....
Mannnnn you hit the nail on the head with that one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣💪 that's straight facts you just spoke
Take a day just get through all the electronics crap sorted before you even get to the engine to turn a wrench.
It's easier quicker to do today, with a factory setup there is no tuning needed at all, and even for a modded build you can tune EFI in the time it takes you re-jet a carb. Best of all it well never need a tune up again. Many cars have a engine harness with a hand full or less keyed connectors.
Now if you've never done one before sure, but that would be true if you've never done a older engine too.
I did the same thing they did in 1981. 283 block and crank 350 pistons. (327 Cubic inch ?). The connecting rods well just a bit a problem but back then (1981) still around. 1968 1.98 heads with hardened seats. The goal was 9.5 to 1 compression to be able to run 93 octane gasoline. Low emission, high torque cam. Oh and get better gas mileage in the '69 suburban.
Ran good.
The gas mileage. Nope. Actually less than the cracked block 350. Even with a wide radio 4 speed instead of a THM 400 still got 9 MPG. It would break the tires loose and smoke 'em with a Holley 450 economaster.
The 4.11 rear end did not help the gas mileage either.
You want the horses and torque at lower RPMs because the stock valves, push rods and springs should NOT be pushed past 5500 RPM in a regular use anyway so 450 CFM is enough.
Oh you can get more RPM with bigger springs(did that). You also need heavier oil to keep the cam and lifters lubed from the higher spring pressure also high volume and high pressure pump( did that too).
I thought that 283 on the dyno would pull more horsepower but maybe if it was properly broken in might get a bit more ponies out of it.
I drove a lot of test cars for Ford and they notice that ones I drove during break in did better at 5.000 miles MPG than most.
They started using the valet/transport settings for the 1st 1000 miles on some and just let the other drivers drive them like a beater.
Yes 2021 engines do have a break in period.
Mixing aluminum heads, copper radiators and heater cores and iron blocks is also not a good idea. Unless you are just racing it. Also draining the coolant during the winter and parking it.
Also don't loan it to someone that swears they have driven a high performance vehicle. They will find a tree with it.
AS for the top speed in that old suburban? Well would do 165 and I did not have brass balls big enough to push faster than that. That was at 4500 RPM.
@@ineffable1129 I use to be able to pull a straight 6 out of a car in about an hour. I guarantee you couldn't do that with any modern engine.
My first car was a '67 chevy impala. 283, 3 speed on the column, 2 door fastback. That car was problem free, got good milage, and was affordable. Too bad the way our auto industry has gone.
Jeez you guys got those rod ends too hot.
Someone needs to take that torch away from them lol
I really really want to disagree but yeah, you're right, probably a little to hot! LOL
That's what I was thinking
I thought the same thing
Yeah, they ruined em.
270 hp for a daily driver sounds like a great package! For some,when you have had one of these little motors in your past,they tug at those heart strings!
I would have opted for a RV highway towing cam to increase the TQ. Still a good build.
@@stuartbuckley8720 I'm sure it's bc they wanted to show hp #'s. Owners going to be disappointed when it doesn't pull itself out of park. Haha... I own one... Has-been built with dual springs yet has sat for a long time and I'm unsure of the builder so I get to discover someone's mistakes I feel. Think I'm more excited to see whatperson did old school tricks to mine. Haha. Or if it was some kid🤣
@@gpt5002 those 283's can make good power and can rev pretty high if built right. We use to race them, long, long ago.
@@stuartbuckley8720 actually starring at a set of powerpak heads right now.lol. I'm excited to see what I can bring of this carnage I bought. Heads turned out to be the best but I have a cam for a 65 vette. My dad kept it for a million years. From what I gather it's the 190horse cam. Maybe more with a 4barrel. After driving a small displacement v8 a few years ago I really enjoyed the way it pulled.. didn't have to slam ya back just move when you want it to move. Gonna make this happen. I'm excited. If all fails I could sell it as a 327 like the guy did to me.lol. jk. I'll either keep it scrap it or blow it up. I keep hearing about this cam... The 327 cam... Duntov or something... I just feel this cylinder head and bore size needs something a little less. Why I'm favoring the stock vette cam over over camming
@@stuartbuckley8720 I do have to say the casting flash from the crank to the heads is insane even more silly is someone had been in this and just left the shrapnel. Looked down in the water jacket in between the cylinders and it appears it has a weld??? I have to clean it really good but I'm scared I was sold a boat motor which now may be a boat anchor. Ever inspected the cooling channels and seen cast that appeared to resemble weld?
The 283 is just a good design with all the right geometry to sustain high revs and take a beating without a lot of effort put into it. It's just balanced and weighted the right way to be conducive to it. Horsepower numbers are deceptive because it likes to rev so easily and quickly. It's different from a lot of other small blocks because of it.
Back in the late '70s, my folks had a '66 C10 with a stock 283 & 4spd, that I drove to school. Given that it didn't have power steering or brakes, that 283 had more than enough "go" for a 15 yr old kid to get in a lot of fun...& trouble.😁 With the manual tranny, of course no "power braking" was needed to burn up the rear tires.😂 My folks were NOT the least bit happy about the tires. Made me pay for the second pair myself.😂
you burnem you earnem !
Back in 1983 I dropped a 283 in a 70 Nova that came with a straight six. Best decision I could have made. Many friends told me I should drop a 327 in it, but I was very pleased with the 283.
The 307 is a 283 block with a 327 crank ,
The 283 could make 300hp
The 307 could make 325hp
The 327 could make 475hp
@@jimthomas7251 het Jim I’m about to tread down my 283 with the powerpack heads any tips how to get the most out if it thanks
@@khalihaddi6093 , to get the most out of it ?
Don't buy a cheap rebuild kit ,
Start with Forged Pistons
If you want hi horse power
Get the best of everything so it can handle that hi horse power
@@jimthomas7251 thank you for the info I will do that. Get the best I can.
@@jimthomas7251 alot of people said the 307 was junk I had one in 70 Malibu and did a few mild things heads, cam, headers, intake and it ran in the low 14's with power glide they weren't that bad
Probably the most dependable motor ever made they can handle abuse and neglect and still run forever
Road and Sea! Had a 28' Chris-Craft powered with a 283 marine version!
I have one in my 66 Chevelle that runs well. I want to rebuild it because it’s a 195hp and needs more power. I have a 427 in my other 66 Chevelle.
@@patfromamboy327 crank, make a 302
283 crank in a 327 makes a 302
I hope so. We have one thats been sitting since 1975 in a gmh assembled 62 bel air. Once we chuck some wheels on it we have to try get it running 😂
first engine i ever rebuilt was a 283 when i was 14 with my friends grandpa he had us do the work y he pointed his finger . he went over everything with us the does and don't how to mic it . to make sure everything is right the first time . it was the best thing i have ever learn the grandpa's name or what we call him on the west coast is old man bell .
Built my first car 62 BelAir's 283 with a 327- 350 hp cam, 302 valve springs, headers, duel point distributor, 4GC carb and manifold off a 65 283. Put it together in a freezing shed on the ground in the winter. Bolted it up to my cast iron Powerglide and smoked the tires for a block! All back in 1977!
A buddy had a '62 Impala with a 327 and 3 speed with a Hurst shifter about that same time. It was worn out and even with anti-foulers it was usually running on six or seven cylinders. Still got him around, and got 2nd gear rubber!
What the hell is up with a blowtorch on the rod? Put the damn thing in a oven! Other than that I really likedt the video
I found it easier to install the cam before the crank . That way I can reach into the block and help guide the cam through the bearings .
Only way to do it.
Good idea. I'll try that from now on.
Whatever it takes to get it done right
I prefer to do it that way if possible.
After the cam bearing the next thing that should always be next is the cam in case a cam bearing got nicked during installation. It's a lot easier to deal with it on pretty much a bare block than when you have the rotating assembly already in place.
Heating the rods to install the connecting pins is fine but you only heat them to blue not red hot those rods are trash now
Thanks for the "correctional" information! When I saw that "piston rod end" get "red hot", I started to "wonder" about "specifics"!
HFX Turbo, (Another "interesting" and "informative" comment) ("Freezing" the pin!)(Good thinking!)(Thanks HFX Turbo) (Sam Spade had some good "advice" earlier also.) I did get a "kick" out of "Richard Skippers" remarks.(ha!ha!) "Richard" might well be right and I suppose that if Richard was right, the "end-result" probably wouldn't be too funny!
would they be warped now?
Jay Arrison bruh why are you putting quotations around every other word
I was thinking the same thing. Way too hot.
Love the 283 Chevy and 289 Ford I have friends that run both of them and spin them over 10 grand in superstock.
I used to have a 283 with a .040 bore displacing 289ci. I fitted vortec heads and an L79 muscle car cam topped off with an Rpm air gap and 650 double pumper. That little motor ran strong and pulled really hard up top…. Felt like the power band never died.
Seen a TWIN TURBO the other day
9000rpm @ 40lbs of boost @ 680hp @ 559lb ft torque
I’ve got almost the exact setup with a different cam. It’s an absolute riot to drive every day
I had a 1966 Belair with a 283 use to shift it at 6500 RPM hundreds maybe even thousands of times, engine was balanced at the factory you could put a dime on the air cleaner and rev it to 2500 rpm and it would not move it was so smooth.
I put 165k miles on it frame rusted out sold the engine to a friend he installed fresh coat of paint and installed in his boat.
2:15. Didn't they get that rod end a little hot? The machine shop I use uses an inductor to heat the rod. And never to red hot
It makes less than 300hp. I wouldn't freak over it
As a machineshop owner, red equals ruined!!
Andrew Evans I wouldn’t say ruined, but definitely needs to be rechecked for clearances and possibly re machined if out of spec
THE GENERAL , "That was pretty "funny" (ha!ha!)
I saw some red on one of them.
Nice video but how about some details, like is the cam stock? or slightly larger? How do the heads compare to the stock heads? Are the intake valves larger? What about combustion chamber CC? Compression ratio? This info would be helpful to anyone building a 283.
As best I could tell...43610 for the heads. Thats 170 cc runners, 1.94/1.5 valves, and 67cc chambers - which makes sense for the displacement as a starting point. Sealed power 4 relief pistons are basic: near 2.5cc worth of pockets [and 0.030" over]. Stock rods means no future power adders. Now some guesswork: original head gaskets were 4" bore, and I think anywhere from 0.018" to 0.026" - I'll use 0.021" [gm 3995633] to work towards a cam. I guess they used a 2102 cam gauging by dyno numbers, and at that point I'm like you: off the map. Thats a 278/288 cam [0.006" numbers] but the ramps are long: 204/214 duration @ 0.050". Video claims they re-used original crank and then [magically] its a stroker. Which is it? A 3" stroke... not that dyno run. Might not hardly run at all. 3.5"? still weak. Cam/head combo seems to arrive at a reasonable compression number with 3.75" stroke - even then I would be thinking of shaving the heads to get nearer 64cc chambers. Angle milling would have me worried about being thin reaching further to say...62cc. They went pure street grocery getter on this, and got off the shelf pistons/cam/heads close enough. Since they bought new pistons, I wonder how much they gave up not going to a 3cc pop up - they were going to spend on those parts anyway... 8.5/7.8 compression.
Well, there's my two cents - that and $1.50 gets a cup of coffee. One of the tools I like to use is UEM's compression calculator, which I need: long trig calculations bore me.
Topolinski does a much better job in recent years, both in building and explaining. Never liked Elmore, just a talking head with a smooth voice.
Those rods got too hot boys
Yeah they are taking the hardness out of them, heating metal to red hot loosens up the metal crystal structure as it cools. That rod might become far softer than it was before.
@@Chevymonster203 it'll be fine
I dont think engine is revving past 5500
What about... mic the pins and ends before even applying heat? An interference fit has its limits. Torch works ok, but maybe go a little more gentle with propane instead of a Victor wrench.
No kidding! "We're just gonna heat this small end to a full cherry red..."
Next time try a pot of oil heated to 250 F., or a $30 toaster oven turned to 250F...
@@Chevymonster203 you really mansplaining to a bunch of men?
Heating those rods like that completely changes the heat treat and tempering if there was any. Not a great example. Shrinking the pin with liquid nitrogen is a much safer option if you want to employ heat sizing.
I was wondering the same thing. I'm not a metallurgist, but heating that con rod red hot just looked wrong.
Engine builders have done that for decades. And no, they didn't heat them red-hot. Maybe 2-300*
I have a 67 chevelle 2 door hardtop with a 283 an 3 on the tree love these 283 small blocks built to last
There were millions of them built from 1957-1967. In 1968 they got stroked with a 327 crank to create the 307. Eventually the 350 replaced the earlier engines until the 305 came out in the late 1970s due to fuel economy and emissions regulations.
Yes the 283 is an engine with real character..... unlike der 350
Man, I wish these mechanical engines were still around in modern cars, tires of all this ECU bullshit where automotive technicians are more Systems Analysts than engine mechanics.
My first car, a '66 Chevy Bel Air, had a 283 in it. Sweet running engine that never used a drop of oil.
Had a '66 283 that I put aluminum forged pistons in, and a '57 Corvette dual 4 barrel solid lift cam. Power- pak heads rounded off the top-end with a dual plane and a 600 cfm carb. Got a 2 speed slush-box (aluminum, and put the combo in a pink '73 Ford Courier with a Cartunes decal that took up the whole back window. Bought the Courier from a guy named Matt, he was a drummer for a punk band. The ol' lady said I couldn't put it in the truck...next thing she heard was...cackle, cackel, etc. It would lay one foot of rubber and gone! Miss it.
Joe, Tommy Boshers, Mark, Ryan, LT and Pat Tomlinson are some of the best I've seen to do it! RIP Jessi Combs, the original Extreme 4x4 and Mythbusters host!
Hi guys I'm from the UK, I thought I was seeing things when those small ends went cherry red !.
instead of destroying the temper on those parts. just frezze em over night . same effect with out losing the temper. of the steel.
the way i was shown to do it as well. freeze. then u just need alil heat. not red hot. i cant see how they CANT see thats bad for the steel?
Dry ice them in a styrofoam container.
These 283 or 327 were a great engine back in the old days.Too bad we didn't have the better oil quality like we have now,,This is the main reason these modern engines are doing very well 😀
SHE'S A RIPPER
67cc cylinder heads on stock flat top 283 pistons with .039" felpro calculates to a *whopping 7.5:1 compression ratio* 🤓
What I don't like is people think because it's the 350 it needs a carburetor under 750 CFM and if it's a 283 it needs a really small Cam and a small carburetor . It just shows that it don't make any power. I followed car magazines for years trying to go conservative on camshafts and carburetors and my car I ran only a 14.00 et. I was so mad. Build them right and they will run. In the early 1990s .. A guy built a 283 with 12.1 Pistons added a Crane camshaft he took out the automatic put in a 4 speed in his 77 Nova and it ran high 10's low 11s' with a baby car seat in the back.
He heated the rod head until it was red and COMPLETELY erased any heat treatment and tensile and material properties the metal had
Grind the top off the front center oil gallery, some dbl. Roller chains will knaw at it and put small metal fillings in the motor !
Man I would have loved to see this little motor with a set of TrickFlow Super 23 heads 10.5:1 compression and a roller cam upgrade.
THAAAANK YOU! I've been saying for years that everytime they do the rare 283 or 307 build they always make it a mundane combo. They don't have to go to the extreme and build something outrageous. Doesn't even need to be roller. How bout a 240° @ .050" solid flat on a 106? Easy 400+ hp altho probably at 7,000rpm.
@@mikewillett5076 that does sound great! But for a truck or a 63 Imp you would want low end torque. Vega...hell yeah
13:39 Buddy cut in there hahaha
I sawed Him too, ahhhck!
Scsred me haha
One day tge 283 will be the most sought after small block ever built...
Not as long as there's a 289 around
I run one in my s10 blazer. It's a sweet little work horse. 330hp and 300 torque. It will fly. The world falls away and it's just you and and the sbc..... Like having a big fish on your line, not thinking bout rent, job, just no worries. The open road, the feel of 8 cylinders pumping. Freedom, the American dream. Beautiful.
@@sbjennings99 you can get 500hp out of a 283 for less than 500 bucks 5 different ways... you couldnt 500hp out of a 289 for 5000.
@@v8sserieschevy917 and the RPMs! thats what i love about the283, its the perfection of a SBC. 3" stroke with a 5.7 rod. and when you bore it out 120 tho you get a 302 the highest rated hp engine chevy ever produced in a sb.... And 283s can be bored 250 without an issue, ive seen it done....
I didn’t know the My Pillow Guy builds motors.
Lol
😄
In 1966 my Father and I rebuilt the 265 in our 1956 Chevrolet. I remember taking dad's white gas torch to burn all the carbon out of the valley breather can.
yep, gas back then had no detergents, and some motor oils had paraffin wax, hence the need for a 3,000 oil change when hot. Some old shade tree mechanics would run some ATF in the block before taking it out to tear apart, and laundry detergent in the radiator. Both had detergents in it, and the block would act like a washing machine on the hot cycle.
As with any of these old motors if you got anywhere near 100,000 miles without it needing a rebuild you,ve done well .Todays engines will run for ever .Don,t be overcome by the dictation of the internet .
That's an awful lot of custom body and chassis work to go through just to stick in a 283.
@Russ Gallagher uh....the 360 mopar has a taller deck height than the 351w...no point in doing it. mopar had insanely tall decks, and far better rod ratios than the competition.
@Russ GallagherBore 283 ('57- to mid 62 blocks only), to fit 327 pistons, you get a Chevy 302...hot engine, better than a 283 crank in a 327, faster revving.
I liked the way you guys explained how things are to be installed in a certain way and why..
I've been building engines for many years had my own machine shop never hit the small ones till they turn orange it ruins the rods always have the machine shop with the rod on a nerd a thing a lot of mechanics do is to see people doing using form a gasket with gaskets it turns gaskets into mush down the road use proper gasket sealer with gaskets Aviation Permatex or the gold spray I've had to re gasket quite a few engines because silicone Permatex with gaskets silicone Permatex Ultra black Ultra Blue Ultra gold Ultra Orange made to be used without gaskets that was the whole purpose of the invention of this chemical
I never used gaskets, just a good thick bead of black permetex on the ends
You're allowed to proof-read...
283 is a block rarely seen today.. You can find 305 by the tons which is no punk by today standards. But yes this 283 is kool to bring back a nostalgic block to life..
I would have built a 305 instead because the 3.480 stroke works way better than 3.000 in a daily driver. I like 283's but not for a stock pickup.
Yeah 20 yrs ago if you built a 305 like I did they would have told you you got your 5s and 0s mixed up
I have 2 I'm rebuilding now and one is matching number from 1961...
I just got a 283 with a Saginaw 4 speed for my 32 Roadster today. 400 bucks.
Just junked 3 of them kept the 3 inch steel crankshafts though
Fun old skul build! Simple. Affordable. Nostalgic. Classic. 👍
283's are internally balanced. What's with the harmonic balancer?
How much more would it have cost to install BRASS FREEZE PLUGS?
327s and 283s are still the best motors for a hot rod or daily driver
Mine had a 292 and an sm420 with 4.56 gears. It layed waste to a lot of automatic v8 trucks. High compression natural gas pistons were the secret to smog era v8 destruction.😂
the 292 ate many of the v8s of its time
wow, beating smog era v8s....real power houses....
Don't put assembly lube on the side of the lifter it keeps it from rotating on startup and it takes a long time for oil to flush it out.
Outstanding. 270....h...p... and. Was. It. 330. Tork....on. the. Old. 283......awesome.....
Heating those rods to red hot is very bad!!! Do you know what you are doing? You creaked a very weak link right at the piston rod connectiln
9:07 Mike may be the first engine builder that said "end pads" rather than "China walls"
Please explain "China Walls" ?
@@40calDeathPunch if you look at those parts of the engine from above, they resemble a super miniature curved portion of the Great Wall of China
@@jeremymurphy7320 Got it. Was half watching video and texting.
Ummm. China Rail ?
Chy’na Wall
Hey. I’ve got a ‘61 Vette with a 283 that’s going to need to be rebuilt. It would be awesome if you can could re-visit the 283 for us old Vette owners and build a performance version. Maybe do the stage 1, 2, and 3 builds like other episodes.
Do you have a fuelie? 315hp 283!
You should be able to get 1 hp per cubic inch thy did in the 60s
Love the little 283's. They like to breathe
I CANT BREEEF
If you bore one .060, notch the block for oversized valves and add a .680 lift at .294 duration they run hard and rev like a over speed womens mouth. Great fun in a light car/ dragster.
Any chrome that goes on a motor, especially that timing cover, I'd aggressively scuff the gasket surface. Oil just loves slipping past chrome
Bullet proof daily drivers is the only way to go!
Until some college kid in a Honda whips your ass and the only way you're thinking about going is home or to the shop to go bigger.
Just don't build a 5500 rpm pickup truck company van engine
Or you'll be sorry you did it twice
Best of the Best
@@delljr2769 you mean the stripped, driver seat only, swiss cheesed, honda with 10k in the engine just to run 12s? id feel bad for the winner, regardless.
@@delljr2769 Just efi swap, add some LS injectors, flash a tune and you'll spank any rice shitbox.
I built a dual quad 283 a few years ago. The “alternative” motors are under appreciated.
How'd it run?
It’s sounded different. Ran great!
283, second gear scratch, with a 3 in the tree!! Ohh the good old days!!!
Man it would have been nice to see Vortec heads on this one
Or aluminum Vette TPI heads
good hp and tourqe with that little 283.....great job guys
If the engine put out 195 HP stock and they rebuilt with basically stock parts how are they hitting 250HP?
Aftermarket heads and slightly bigger cam, and edelbrock instead of 2 barrel or quadrajet. “Basically” stock doesn’t mean anything if you paid attention to the video lol
Drop that crank into a 4" block, woohoo. A 302, that would be a screamer.
Chevy crank in a ford block?
Bryson Shires don’t say anything if you have no idea what you’re talking about kid
Naw, that's how the new generation learns. Hot rodders would bore a post 1957 283 block out to a 4 inch cylinder bore, and that made 301.9 cubic inches (tho they called it a 301). Later, Ford would whip the Corvair's sales butt with a thing called the Mustang (only fair, since it originally was supposed to compete with the Corvette, but Ford had a heavy V8 called the Y block and so they made a larger 2 seater car called the T'bird, which started the personal luxury car market that Chevy would compete in with the Monte Carlo).
So when Chevy made the Camaro to follow the lead of the Mustang, they knew they had to go all-out right at the gate. The Ford K code Challenger 289 competed against Dodge's D code 275 hp 273 V8 in a race called the Trans America. Trans Am required V8's no larger than 5.0 litres, and Chevy decided to match up its 327 block, with 283 cranks, to create the DZ code Z28 302 engine.
At its time, it was a hot mama. It came from the factory with the same 780 cfm carb the 427 used, so you knew it was a high revver--and there was a cross ram optional twin carb intake. That carb sat on a high rise dual plane intake that a few aftermarket companies ripped off as their own. It had the famous "Duntov 30-30" cam used in the fuelie 327's. Some dealers threw headers into the trunk. It was an answer to the Shelby Gt-350 without having to go to special dealerships--any Chevy one could order one up for you.
@@brysonshires9742. I'll be easy on you since it sounds like you're not well versed on this. Of course there is the Ford 302. But Chevy also made a 302 that came in the '67-'69 Z/28s only. For years prior people were putting 283 cranks in 327s but called them 301s. (Or bored the 283 to the max).
Both the Chevy and Ford 302 have a 4 inch bore and 3 inch stroke.
@@brysonshires9742 Chevy made a 302 also 327 block with a 283 crank real screamer!
My 283 ran really good with a Duntov / GM 30-30 cam .
That wasn't too much cam? How many CFMs was your car?
My dad built a 283 back in 1969 the year I was born and put in a 1955 chevy truck it had the truck four speed with granny low..the gears in the rear end on those trucks are very low so he pulled the rear end out of a 56 caddy.. he had cherries bombs on it sounded like it came straight out of hell that truck would run the highway at 100 mph no sweat he drove that truck up until 86 he retired it the only engine work he ever did to it was some lifter adjust and of course valve cover gaskets..love those 283 and 327's
I sure miss the Powerblock shows coming on weekends! I liked the originals much better they sold the first time. I wish the could come back on Motor Trend TV; especially since Car Fix went to Hell in a handbasket!!!!
Buddy's a butcher......................................
"Horsepower TV" builds 283
I've been wanting a 283v8 for my 85 s10 so bad but you can't find them much anymore . I I definitely do not want a LS swap I don't care for any of that stuff . I like old school engines an don't want any computer controlled engines lol . I just love the sound of a 283v8
Not everyday you see these chumps run an engine on 87. Good for them! Cool to see
Thank you so much. In the future, I want to build 283 again. I had so much fun. And use updated technology and parts. This motor is a classic. I love all of the Edelbrock products you used on your motor. I am impressed!!! Thanks for sharing.
nice enough to put it in the LOUNGE ROOM !
What was the cam grind they ran?
Good question I'm thinking a RV cam or a step above
really, full turn preload, LOL....
Funny how this channel and a few others are not YT type personality's. Basically more or less big budget funded INFOMERCIALS, I don't see this SUPER SHOP era personality lasting long...
PS, ditch the 1970s A.M. radio DJ voice PLEEEEEEEASE.
I would not hire you guys to work the register at Auto Zone, much less build me an engine.
Always watch this show since I was a kid when it started out with Chuck and Joe even till today after the name change. But it seem like Joe has always been a slacker making Chuck and Mike and buddy doing all the damn work. But Mike and Pat kick ass at it today. But I think Pat has forgotten more about engine building than Joe ever learned. God you got to love this show.
what wasit called before ? the name of the show ?
Do yall skip mentioning/ showing some break in time or break em in from cold start at5500rpm???
Buddy's face at 13:39... lol
I was hoping for 283hp!👍
Ikr wondering the cam specs
best engine ever
Just scored a 1959 thick wall 283. They made the thick wall from 59 to 61-62, but not all of them. The 327 was coming online for the Corvette in 62(Basically a thick wall 283 with 327 bits.). So this 283 will become a DZ 302, with much more spice. Some original angle plug 2.02's that are OEM. Will be a 11.75/1 with custom slugs. Found a GM DZ 780 Holley double, and intake from the swap meet. Just a fun project, not going to shake the world. 450hp maybe-ish.
I like Joe the best out of all the guys. Also Chuck Hanson who worked with Joe from the early days.
I always install cam cover and timming tab and harmonic balancer before heads go on. That way you can find a true TDC with a degree wheel and dial indicator. You would be amazed how many times I've seen TDC off on balancer and or timing tabs.
If they can't hit 300 hp at the flywheel, then they're wasting time. 'Bout to find out...
@BW MadDog [retired] You are probably correct about the carbon content of the rod.
But what about all that heat , a lot of which would transfer to the wrist pin? Enough to affect the temper/ hardness of the pin, do you think?
Rip buddy "torquemeister". So much sexual tension between him and Joe.
Build a 392 or 396 sbc
Have not worked on cars in many years but never heard of a 392 or 396 SBC so i'm guessing this is a newer thing. Years ago the big thing was 383 strokers and destroked 377s.
@@falloutpc1 yep they are "new school"
Just bought a 283. So ready for it to be my first rebuild
This shows why the old original SBC so great. An amazing engine and so easy to work on.
Seriously considering buying a 283 locally that was bored 40 over and from the description looks to be rebuilt similar to that of the 283 on the episode, Edelbrock included. I am restoring an 81' Malibu; what I am asking is if the 350 TR Trans is going to be able to handle the WHP, and if the accessories from the the 229 V6 OHV will cross over to the 283, also will I need get a different set of Motor Mounts?
Those 283 were awesome motors
Then, after cooler accessory parasitic drag transmission parasitic drag rear differential parasitic drag at the rear wheels yeah you should be just under the 200 mark. Still, a nice good work cruise around town go to the movies grab groceries pickup truck ☺️🤠👍🏽🎉
Now is the time to put a turbo on project stroker stang! It's a perfect turbo motor now. I bet it would mid 6's. The better a motor can breathe the more power you'll get. Come on please please put a turbo on it. I swear I'll never give one of your video a thumbs down again. I'm serious dead serious.
Nice simple build guys, What was the cost to rebuild this little 283. I have one I want to build
I'm building one right know, 60 over,
300 hp cam, engine balance, world
Product heads, still need push rods ,intake, all the outer parts, at
$3500.00 know, it will be all new, for
My grandma's 66 chev 11 nova, been
Building this project form the ground up., about 3 lin. Of recites afraided to
Add them all up , guessing over 25,ooo.oo , grandparents bought the
Car brand new in Coolidge Arizona,
$2600.00 still have the original
Invoice,
283 ci. in older Chevrolets use to have power cylinder heads , I forgot what they used to call it. Think they made them from late 1950s through the 1970s ?
Kapton bolt on? Boring! Why not make a "v 6" out preform a "GT"? Any body can do what you did! Maybe that's what you want? Don't be a "follower" be a "leader" !🤪🤪😫
Alittle more info would be nice, cam size total timing, static timing. Head chamber size, estimated compresion, a compresion test would be nice. You know just the small stuff.