This was extremely informational because I'm trying to sell a few as well and people are telling me that they're fake! I will be using your video to show others.
I stack many 1 ounce silver rounds. Was doing this since I was a kid. From this "COPY" experience I also ran into, I'm very anal on how I choose my silver. I don't just look at the purity of the silver, I look at how believable the presentation is, and how easy can I sell it back for. While most rounds I buy don't have the word "COPY" stamped on them, I did get a buffalo round once with that word on it. After I tested it by weight, dimensions, sliding magnet, and xray, I realized it was still a legitimate ounce of silver - it was real. However, I was curious about how hard that ounce would be to sell. I took the "COPY" round out of the safe, along with an identical-looking buffalo without the stamped word. The one without the stamped word was sold 20 minutes after I pulled it out of my safe. The legit-but-stamped "COPY" buffalo took several weeks to find someone who believed it was real. **So, what I was getting to: Just because something is real and authentic, does not mean it's a good investment. Because what good is a real hundred dollar bill when nobody wants to accept it? So stamping "COPY" on legitimate .999+ silver is .999+ idiocracy.
I have to say I concur. Its almost like why would an old US Mint design be used unless it was to deceive the coin collecting market into thinking they are original coins. One day I woke up and it seems like I'm living in CHINA.... lmao. Thank you OBAMA 🤣
Thank you I recently procured coins stamped copy and wasn't sure what to think of the Morgans I acquired. What are they made of are they still silver? Are they weighing over or under what Morgans or these other rounds are. Some people like copies and actually collect counterfeits of numismatic coins.
You are absolutely correct COPY doesn't denote the coin is fake nor that it is clad or Plated. It denotes that it is a copy of another previously used coin design.
I bought a bunch of eagle copies and brought them home when I noticed the word copy. My first thought was I got ripped off, so I ping tested them and they sounded dead compared to an original ASE. At that point I weighed them and they were about.02 over. At this point I was convinced they were fake so I called the guy I bought them from and he said to bring them back for a refund. In the meantime I did a specific gravity test and they all tested good, so I hsd to call the guy and apologize to him. I still have them and I learned to do a specific gravity test, it's easy and cheap, I also learned that not all silver rounds sound the same when you ping them. Great video thanks.
Thx for the video. I have a Buffalo and Morgan Copy coin, but nowhere does it say there is silver in the coin. It does not sound right when I drop it on the table. Thoughts? I can take it to my LCS too. Thanks -Frank
I have a question I have a 1895 E pluribus unum coin and it’s a copy of the Morgan dollar do you think it may be real ? The color on it looks gold and sliver...
Where do u get the one on the far right that has the same design as the gold double eagle? I so so want one of them but cannot find one. Oh and I know there real .999 solid silver even though they say copy it says copy because it's a copy of the Gold Eagle but it's in solid silver anyway where do you get them?
Thx 4 calmin my mind. I thought my P.M dealer sold me a fake american silver eagle. U Rock Doc. I was worried cause it's the only one I found in my stash. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶
I agree with you, and Hi Ho silver! I have a small stack of those buffalo rounds! I bought them from my LCS! I usually don't like to buy the rounds that say copy, but sometimes they are such a good deal that I can't pass them up.
Genuine silver rounds that have "copy" stamped on it means it has a similar design to a government minted coin. You are correct! Some people without this knowledge will get the wrong idea from this stamping. Sorry you had to go through this.
100% correct 👍 not real coin but its a real silver round . i sold a tube of COPY genuine silver rounds for same price as a silver Eagles coins bullions. Some have little or more 00.10 troy oz silver on them .
LOL 😆 i had a local coin shop saying i had a fake COPY 1/4 pound silver Eagle when i showed him . i showed him he had COPY 1.oz and 1/2o.z Eagles on display for sale. LOL they been in business since 1970's & they din't know about Obama giving green light on US mint copy rights . 👍
Most private mints choose not to stamp copy on their rounds. However, a private mint called Westminster Mint stamps "copy" on their rounds. Westminster Mint's rounds are genuine 999 silver. I guess Westminster Mint chose to stamp "copy" on their rounds as a precaution against getting charged by the Feds. Considering that rounds and medals lack a denomination, I think stamping "copy" is unnecessary. The "copy" stamp will make rounds harder to sell because it confuses people. An example being that idiot that harassed you. I guess that troll doesn't know how to research things on the internet.
So the 2001 Indian Head Buffalo proof silver rounds that have a copy number on them that I just bought are legit? I was thinking the same way as you are. That they are just copies of the minted nickels.
I have an 1804 Silver Dollar with the word COPY on the back. It is not magnetic. So, it is a bit confusing. Ideas? To make it weirder ... as you know... they never made those in 1804 in the first place but many years later. Thoughts?
Hi I had a question I have a buffalo $50 coin 99% gold and it says copy on it was a little lost because I bought it from a dealer that had but in liberty coin with it and I got this coin with it and I said copy on it been a little confused if it’s real or Nah would like to talk to you more about this since you know a lot about coins I have copy
It would be nice to see mints taking the lead of sunshine mint. Those all have etchings which can be verified by holding a card over the silver round. It would be even better to see mints not using vintage designs for thier rounds. That way weight, purity and, makers mark can be shown without much dispute.
my american gold eagle has copy stamped on it and it is also a fake, the xrf machine shows it as a thing gold plated copper round. it was given to me by my lcs about 8 years ago.
The National Collectors Mint in 2001 Silver Buffalo Proof set has one full oz. of .999 pure silver. The second proof is clad in 100 Mil .999 pure silver. The same copy# is on both proofs. The pure silver proof has 1oz. .999 sterling silver printed on the face side.
Hello, i was recently gifted a 2021 0.96oz gold buffalo nickle coin, originally thought it was one from the infomercial, however it doesn't contain a $50 or .9999 stamp on the bottom, "has copy stamped on the native american's braid", any info you could give would be much appreciated. Thanks
hello ranmatendo, i got a $50 buffalo gold coin with a small "copy" stamped. i also got some other commemorating buffalo gold coins with a large "copy" on it. i know these are gold plated. does it mean the one with a smaller "copy" word is not a genuine Gold coin?
I want to know that question because I have four of them and two buffalo 1877 50 liberty coins. 2 buffalos coin one with $50 and the other one dont have no amount
I also believe they are what they say they are, the problem is not all company's are following that guide line. None of the rounds I bought from silver.com has copy stamped on them, so this will keep coming up until everyone stamps them or no one stamps them.
👍 some even have little more metal. My tube full had some rounds that was 31.7gm to 32.3 they all pass 999 fine silver at my local coin shop . they paid me $2 over spot same as maples $1 shy of silver Eagles ..
They are most likely meaning that these are not original coins, certain U.S coins are extremely valuable, much more so than silver. So it seems to me that it isn't the silver being called fake but maybe representation of a coin if its claiming to be an original coin?
the ping test should be 3800 hrts, the liberty dollar coins should weigh 31.20 grms the .20 varies ,also when holding rightside up and flip it front ways the back should be right side up as well
So I guess lesson is why not buy "copy" stamped coins I mean still silver and discount. May not look as cool as the others but for the price you get more and then still your coins will go up in price do to a fact of getting them for great deal.
LOL, I have a piece of eight with "copy" on the side, and yes its not 300 years old (its a new made one), its a copy, but its still one ounce pure 999 fine silver tho.
I bought a silver dollar COPY tube and it had one real one. You can tell the difference. But yes its silver just like the Panda coins and Mickey Mouse coins.
There are many silver bullion with old coin designs as tributes that do not carry the Word copy on them. Intaglio mint for example. U need further testing.
very true but I guess if you plan on selling them, it is better to be within the rules of the law. Gives them one less reason to confiscate it from you and slap on an additional fine on top of that. Legally, people can report all the other dealers not following this law and they can get shut down and receive heavy fines.
ranmatendo77 we're not dealers as individual sellers. If it's required for that I also have a precious metal verifier sigma . How do you like listia otherwise?
listia is still a great place to get rid of stuff that you no longer need or want because there are just some things that is just doesn't sell on sites like ebay. So if you have the time and patience, you can swap your junk for credits and use credits to get some nice items that you may want. Or if you get selected to sell credits, you can sell it for $$$. The downside is that recently they have put a restriction limit on how many credits you can list for sale at a time so for people that sell tons of stuff on listia can no longer liquidate their credits fast enough so its like locking up your funds and not being able to cash it out. it used to be about 2-3 weeks for a sales order to complete but now it is looking like 4 weeks + so I have changed my strategy and am just swapping all my credits for amazon gift cards and then will turn the gift cards into silver or stuff i can use or resell.
I have 2 - 50c coins, dated 1824 and 1835 w/ "copy" stamped on them. Also a $1 - 1882 w/ "copy" stamped. They all look like "copy" was hand stamped. I just thought they were replicas.
All that guy had to do was google "Copy stamped on silver coins means" and he would find lots of support for what your saying. I swear people are just willfully ignorant.
These are bullion rounds made to resemble coins, they are not coins. They are stamped copy and should also have a stamped .999 silver on the edges, with out the .999 they are not 100% silver. The fake bullion rounds weigh less the an ounce.
I was lucky today, I went to buy silver generic rounds the coin dealer said he had bullion marked copy and it was harder to sell, he gave to me at spot. He put them on a tester and scale, everything was right. Obama made bullion dealers using similar coins to government minted coins stamp copy on them. These coins are real 999 fine silver. I bought 10 rounds 3 had the copy mark. Getting them at spot I felt was a bonus.
I was gave 8 rounds today 4 are 1 oz silver 4 are not u can weight them..I also was gave 2 s Washington dc quarters that are .999 and the weight is correct on them so they're Silver 100%
I have seen (and obtained) coins marked "copy" that absolutely ARE Fake, they are not real silver, etc. There should be marking these real silver coins with something different from the totally fake coins!
Wow I think the guy going to regret for giving a away his copy coins their probably worth more or a lot of money wow when u hit the coins with another coin it as a high pitch ring that last a little longer then the others coin that's how u know u got the real coin or make the queen in the air and then you can hear the ring of the coin a regular coin doesn't ring like a high pitch ring to it
This was extremely informational because I'm trying to sell a few as well and people are telling me that they're fake! I will be using your video to show others.
I stack many 1 ounce silver rounds. Was doing this since I was a kid. From this "COPY" experience I also ran into, I'm very anal on how I choose my silver. I don't just look at the purity of the silver, I look at how believable the presentation is, and how easy can I sell it back for. While most rounds I buy don't have the word "COPY" stamped on them, I did get a buffalo round once with that word on it. After I tested it by weight, dimensions, sliding magnet, and xray, I realized it was still a legitimate ounce of silver - it was real. However, I was curious about how hard that ounce would be to sell. I took the "COPY" round out of the safe, along with an identical-looking buffalo without the stamped word. The one without the stamped word was sold 20 minutes after I pulled it out of my safe. The legit-but-stamped "COPY" buffalo took several weeks to find someone who believed it was real. **So, what I was getting to: Just because something is real and authentic, does not mean it's a good investment. Because what good is a real hundred dollar bill when nobody wants to accept it? So stamping "COPY" on legitimate .999+ silver is .999+ idiocracy.
I have to say I concur. Its almost like why would an old US Mint design be used unless it was to deceive the coin collecting market into thinking they are original coins. One day I woke up and it seems like I'm living in CHINA.... lmao. Thank you OBAMA 🤣
Thank you I recently procured coins stamped copy and wasn't sure what to think of the Morgans I acquired. What are they made of are they still silver? Are they weighing over or under what Morgans or these other rounds are. Some people like copies and actually collect counterfeits of numismatic coins.
You are absolutely correct COPY doesn't denote the coin is fake nor that it is clad or Plated. It denotes that it is a copy of another previously used coin design.
I bought a bunch of eagle copies and brought them home when I noticed the word copy. My first thought was I got ripped off, so I ping tested them and they sounded dead compared to an original ASE. At that point I weighed them and they were about.02 over. At this point I was convinced they were fake so I called the guy I bought them from and he said to bring them back for a refund. In the meantime I did a specific gravity test and they all tested good, so I hsd to call the guy and apologize to him. I still have them and I learned to do a specific gravity test, it's easy and cheap, I also learned that not all silver rounds sound the same when you ping them. Great video thanks.
Thx for the video. I have a Buffalo and Morgan Copy coin, but nowhere does it say there is silver in the coin. It does not sound right when I drop it on the table. Thoughts? I can take it to my LCS too. Thanks -Frank
I have a question I have a 1895 E pluribus unum coin and it’s a copy of the Morgan dollar do you think it may be real ? The color on it looks gold and sliver...
I just got 2021 Liberty Head copy.
I’m trying to find what it is.
i have a few generic buffalos , they don't say copy, is this something they have to do now?
Where do u get the one on the far right that has the same design as the gold double eagle? I so so want one of them but cannot find one. Oh and I know there real .999 solid silver even though they say copy it says copy because it's a copy of the Gold Eagle but it's in solid silver anyway where do you get them?
Thx 4 calmin my mind. I thought my P.M dealer sold me a fake american silver eagle. U Rock Doc. I was worried cause it's the only one I found in my stash. 👍👀🖖👻🤘😎🎸🎶
I agree with you, and Hi Ho silver! I have a small stack of those buffalo rounds! I bought them from my LCS! I usually don't like to buy the rounds that say copy, but sometimes they are such a good deal that I can't pass them up.
if you don't want them, why not melt it to a bar ingot. not sure what is the present market for silver ingot now?
Genuine silver rounds that have "copy" stamped on it means it has a similar design to a government minted coin. You are correct! Some people without this knowledge will get the wrong idea from this stamping. Sorry you had to go through this.
I have 15 of thees coins are they worth anything at all
100% correct 👍 not real coin but its a real silver round . i sold a tube of COPY genuine silver rounds for same price as a silver Eagles coins bullions. Some have little or more 00.10 troy oz silver on them .
LOL 😆 i had a local coin shop saying i had a fake COPY 1/4 pound silver Eagle when i showed him . i showed him he had COPY 1.oz and 1/2o.z Eagles on display for sale. LOL they been in business since 1970's & they din't know about Obama giving green light on US mint copy rights . 👍
Thank you for showing this video
Me an others were about to send them back
Most private mints choose not to stamp copy on their rounds. However, a private mint called Westminster Mint stamps "copy" on their rounds. Westminster Mint's rounds are genuine 999 silver. I guess Westminster Mint chose to stamp "copy" on their rounds as a precaution against getting charged by the Feds. Considering that rounds and medals lack a denomination, I think stamping "copy" is unnecessary. The "copy" stamp will make rounds harder to sell because it confuses people. An example being that idiot that harassed you. I guess that troll doesn't know how to research things on the internet.
So what did the Precious Metal Verifier say? Is it real SILVER OR NOT? ...
How rare is a S morgan 1883 copy?
So the 2001 Indian Head Buffalo proof silver rounds that have a copy number on them that I just bought are legit? I was thinking the same way as you are. That they are just copies of the minted nickels.
A question I found a coin whit the back say copy -# aa162 what this mind ?
I just purchased a 1893 Morgan silver round for $25. I read the reviews afterwards and someone said it wasn't real. But it looks real to me.
I have an 1804 Silver Dollar with the word COPY on the back. It is not magnetic. So, it is a bit confusing. Ideas? To make it weirder ... as you know... they never made those in 1804 in the first place but many years later. Thoughts?
Hi I had a question I have a buffalo $50 coin 99% gold and it says copy on it was a little lost because I bought it from a dealer that had but in liberty coin with it and I got this coin with it and I said copy on it been a little confused if it’s real or Nah would like to talk to you more about this since you know a lot about coins I have copy
It would be nice to see mints taking the lead of sunshine mint. Those all have etchings which can be verified by holding a card over the silver round. It would be even better to see mints not using vintage designs for thier rounds. That way weight, purity and, makers mark can be shown without much dispute.
I want that engraved round lol. I am going to start pouring my own silver and us the word COPY as my stamp lol!!!
lol you should. will confuse the hell outta all the doubters
I'm going to have to order some and engrave stuff lol.
yea they are fun little things to have.
I have a gold bufflo coin that says copy under the chin is it real thank you
my american gold eagle has copy stamped on it and it is also a fake, the xrf machine shows it as a thing gold plated copper round. it was given to me by my lcs about 8 years ago.
The National Collectors Mint in 2001 Silver Buffalo Proof set has one full oz. of .999 pure silver. The second proof is clad in 100 Mil .999 pure silver. The same copy# is on both proofs. The pure silver proof has 1oz. .999 sterling silver printed on the face side.
Hello, i was recently gifted a 2021 0.96oz gold buffalo nickle coin, originally thought it was one from the infomercial, however it doesn't contain a $50 or .9999 stamp on the bottom, "has copy stamped on the native american's braid", any info you could give would be much appreciated. Thanks
hello ranmatendo, i got a $50 buffalo gold coin with a small "copy" stamped. i also got some other commemorating buffalo gold coins with a large "copy" on it. i know these are gold plated. does it mean the one with a smaller "copy" word is not a genuine Gold coin?
I want to know that question because I have four of them and two buffalo 1877 50 liberty coins. 2 buffalos coin one with $50 and the other one dont have no amount
I also believe they are what they say they are, the problem is not all company's are following that guide line. None of the rounds I bought from silver.com has copy stamped on them, so this will keep coming up until everyone stamps them or no one stamps them.
I have some silver rounds with copy on them also!
👍 some even have little more metal. My tube full had some rounds that was 31.7gm to 32.3 they all pass 999 fine silver at my local coin shop . they paid me $2 over spot same as maples $1 shy of silver Eagles ..
They are most likely meaning that these are not original coins, certain U.S coins are extremely valuable, much more so than silver. So it seems to me that it isn't the silver being called fake but maybe representation of a coin if its claiming to be an original coin?
Hey I'm so glad you put this up. As I purchased some so I needed to know if they are real .999 silver. This vid completely answers the question. 😊
glad i can help. =)
Test it yourself with ice man. Take an ice cube and press it on it. If it melts the ice it's real. For real
the ping test should be 3800 hrts, the liberty dollar coins should weigh 31.20 grms the .20 varies ,also when holding rightside up and flip it front ways the back should be right side up as well
I agree with you...
So I guess lesson is why not buy "copy" stamped coins I mean still silver and discount. May not look as cool as the others but for the price you get more and then still your coins will go up in price do to a fact of getting them for great deal.
Copy sometimes means fake, or replica.. same saying in some since... I would hope not for that would freaking suck!!!’
LOL, I have a piece of eight with "copy" on the side, and yes its not 300 years old (its a new made one), its a copy, but its still one ounce pure 999 fine silver tho.
I bought a silver dollar COPY tube and it had one real one. You can tell the difference. But yes its silver just like the Panda coins and Mickey Mouse coins.
There are many silver bullion with old coin designs as tributes that do not carry the Word copy on them.
Intaglio mint for example.
U need further testing.
The word "copy" just means the "design" was copied. It doesn't mean anything else.
Yes means is not original
NOT ALL "COPY" ROUNDS ARE FAKE. LEGALLY THE MAKERS HAVE TO PUT "COPY" TO MAKE SURE NOONE THINKS ITS LEGAL TENDER
Reputable minters will indicate their brand logo and silver contained(9.999, etc. on the coin/round).
I got a gold buffaloe coin 2017 with the word copy on it. Coin dealer did not take it out of case. Told me it was worth a dollar.
The ones from china say copy so it's a double whammy. Better to avoid them if you can and get generics as generics. Otherwise you get annoying buyers
very true but I guess if you plan on selling them, it is better to be within the rules of the law. Gives them one less reason to confiscate it from you and slap on an additional fine on top of that. Legally, people can report all the other dealers not following this law and they can get shut down and receive heavy fines.
ranmatendo77 we're not dealers as individual sellers. If it's required for that I also have a precious metal verifier sigma . How do you like listia otherwise?
listia is still a great place to get rid of stuff that you no longer need or want because there are just some things that is just doesn't sell on sites like ebay. So if you have the time and patience, you can swap your junk for credits and use credits to get some nice items that you may want. Or if you get selected to sell credits, you can sell it for $$$. The downside is that recently they have put a restriction limit on how many credits you can list for sale at a time so for people that sell tons of stuff on listia can no longer liquidate their credits fast enough so its like locking up your funds and not being able to cash it out. it used to be about 2-3 weeks for a sales order to complete but now it is looking like 4 weeks + so I have changed my strategy and am just swapping all my credits for amazon gift cards and then will turn the gift cards into silver or stuff i can use or resell.
i have liberty 1795 coin have the word copy on it
I have 2 - 50c coins, dated 1824 and 1835 w/ "copy" stamped on them. Also a $1 - 1882 w/ "copy" stamped. They all look like "copy" was hand stamped. I just thought they were replicas.
All that guy had to do was google "Copy stamped on silver coins means" and he would find lots of support for what your saying. I swear people are just willfully ignorant.
It's a replica of vintage currency.
Yup thats the right word for it "replica". Still silver but not a real coin. Neither way it stays a silver billion round tho.
What r they worth
they are worth the price of 1oz of silver which today, spot price is $16.86 an ounce.
I'm good... It's Silver Bullion...
These are bullion rounds made to resemble coins, they are not coins.
They are stamped copy and should also have a stamped .999 silver on the edges, with out the
.999 they are not 100% silver. The fake bullion rounds weigh less the an ounce.
I was lucky today, I went to buy silver generic rounds the coin dealer said he had bullion marked copy and it was harder to sell, he gave to me at spot. He put them on a tester and scale, everything was right. Obama made bullion dealers using similar coins to government minted coins stamp copy on them. These coins are real 999 fine silver. I bought 10 rounds 3 had the copy mark. Getting them at spot I felt was a bonus.
Real!!
The Copy coins still contains REAL SILVER.
I was gave 8 rounds today 4 are 1 oz silver 4 are not u can weight them..I also was gave 2 s Washington dc quarters that are .999 and the weight is correct on them so they're Silver 100%
Stamp copy means is not real.
I have a couple gold coins stamped copy including 1933 20 dollars double eagle
The shit is magnetic
I have seen (and obtained) coins marked "copy" that absolutely ARE Fake, they are not real silver, etc. There should be marking these real silver coins with something different from the totally fake coins!
Wow I think the guy going to regret for giving a away his copy coins their probably worth more or a lot of money wow when u hit the coins with another coin it as a high pitch ring that last a little longer then the others coin that's how u know u got the real coin or make the queen in the air and then you can hear the ring of the coin a regular coin doesn't ring like a high pitch ring to it
Those people are tripping, those are real silver generics.
some people are just really stubborn and set in their ways i guess.
Golden Banjo i have liberty 1795 have copy on it am trying to slae it
I have many ob these copy coins
did anyone question the content of what the coins are made of is still fake because of "copy"
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That's what happens when people argue over the meaning of a word before they actually define it.
very true. everyone has their own opinion on their definition of the word. whatcha gonna do.
I have morgan dollar that has the word copy below the in god we trust
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Some mints fear legal action and jail because of "Liberty Dollar" creator Bernard von NotHaus. Stamping "copy" on rounds is simply to CYA
Why is copy stamped on my 1921 liberty coin
Chinese counterfeit,all of them
Hes right, just because it says copy, does not necessarily mean it is not .999 Silver. However, definitely say away from ANYTHING that says "copy."
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If a round is stamped .999 Fine Silver, then it is .999 Fine Silver.
LOL
Not true at all
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I believe they are all real but think it is completely unnecessary to stamp it.
You should. It be making public videos. Sorry, dude, it’s not for everyone. Cheers!
Only thing that matters is a coins SILVER CONTENT
This video is not proof that these rounds are .999 silver. It just states one “sellers” opinion. Test with a Sigma to be sure.
There's a ton of 99.9 silver that's not authentic government issued coins like Morgan's or silver eagles silver content don't make the coin real
I would rather have a barely readable, heavily circulated real coin than a reproduction one that says "Copy" on it. Or, a plain Generic.
Silver is not 🧲
when you hold the coin right side up and rotate it sideways the back should be upside down ! those are fake
For coins minted by the government, yes. For generic rounds minted by a 3rd party, usually not.
Yes it is fake and its legal
Thank Obama, my goodness he will be remembered as being the worst president ever 🤣
They are all Fake. Look at AliExpress. They sell this "Coins" for 2-3 Dollar
Fake as hell
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