Apologies for the audio quality between 01:00 to 2:16, the music in the bar is copyrighted which I wasn't aware of and so TH-cam took the music out and kept the other audio mostly intact
A minor inaccuracy you missed in S.O.G. is that at the beginning of the mission the song "Fortunate Son" by CCR can be heard playing over the radio, but that song was not released until September of 1969.
Fun fact: The M16A3 was actually initially Navy owned M16A1 lower receivers with A2 uppers until actual dedicated A3 marked receivers were adopted. The M16s in this game simply have their carry handle chopped off, and it appears that the entire front sight, which also acts as the gas block, is completely removed, which would effectively turn the weapon into a a straight-pull bolt action rifle! Just my "um acktually" moment, lol.
This was fantastic. Black Ops 1 was one of my favorite campaigns in Call of Duty but it was cool seeing how accurate/inaccurate the historical details were.
The m16 wasn't poorly designed, it was poorly fielded. The army knew there were problems with the m16 before they were sent to Vietnam. The army sent rifles that weren't properly tested to Vietnam for political reasons.
The US ordnance department cut corners because they where jealous that the wood and steel M14 a government made weapon was inferior to the m16 and a lot of corners where cut to make the weapon look bad and to save money
From its conception the m16 was "doomed" by politics , yet when the jackasses started to listen (or more like.... "why is everyone die.... OOOOOOH") , we made history.
One of the main issues was that the weapon was somehow issued without any cleaning kits, or instructions on how to clean it. To make matters worse, the Army decided to issue ammunition with a different type of powder than the weapon was designed for. The powder had a different pressure curve, causing issues with extraction of spent brass. The only real issue with the design was the lack of a chrome-plated barrel.
@@wafflefries3779 I do watch his videos, but I haven't yet had the time to watch his latest one on the M16, which I'm guessing is why you brought him up. My knowledge comes from a video by SmallArrmsSolutions I watched a couple of years back. Looking it up, it's called "What Happened with the M16 in Vietnam?" in case you're interested.
The red army did actually purchase winchester lever guns in limited numbers during WW1 so one floating around in the armory of a prison is not totally unthinkable I guess
23:10 Fun fact, the reason why the M16A1/XM16E1 mostly performed poorly was because Springfield Armory (the actual armory that was in charge of standardizing guidelines and blueprints on new weapon platform creations to provide to American companies who were contracted to build them, not the manufacturing company that came later) was most likely pissed off no one wanted their heavy-ass M1 Garand 2.0 (the M14) that was made of WOOD being used in a south Asian HOT TROPICAL ENVIRONMENT and couldn't be accurately fired on full-auto, lied about ballistic performance the M16 rifle had because of the powder they used in the cartridges during testing. Like, actual forgery... Eugene Stoner, our lord and savior, designed it with a specific powder that caused the weapon platform to function pretty much perfectly, that led to fans of it saying that it "cleans itself". But because Springfield wanted to be buddy-buddy with a company that makes smokeless powder that not only doesn't provide proper expansion pressures, causing feeding issues and serious wear n tear on the weapon, but also burns slower, causing unburnt powder to remain inside the chamber and barrel. Making the "self-cleaning" aspect look like a bunch of malarkey that Eugene lied about. Which is why troops weren't issued cleaning kits for some f*cking reason. @Wendigoon has a great video on it! But yeah... Vietnam War and the M16 TLDR: American Government starts a pointless proxy war that gets so screwed up they have to send American troops to fight it, get their asses handed to them because the weapon that the gov created sucks, reluctantly acquires the patent to the perfect weapon, lies about testing performance and provides the bad ammunition that causes said weapon to not work to save a few bucks that ends up costing brave men who volunteered and draftees who were put there against their will, to lose their lives, all for the US to pull out anyway with no victory.
i think it was meant to be a sawn off double barrel shotty but it's changed to M1887 due to Terminator 2's references (and to top it all off the M1887 itself is actually useable ingame if you spawn it with a cheat & issa MW2 model + it's using SPAS 12 animation for some reasons)
Just made my way through all your 'historian reacts' videos, and I really appreciate the macro perspective you're bringing to these game scripts. Hope to see more!
I think another thing to discuss with Mason during his escape from Vorkuta is he was born and raised in rural Alaska. He taught to hunt, fish, and camp in the Alaska frontier. Which I think would have helped his escape from Vorkuta.
The US military, mainly the US ordnance department intentionally sabatoged the M16. They used the wrong powder for the ammo ( cause it was cheaper) did not issue cleaning kits, and cut design corners thay the maker of the weapon Eugene Stoner was furious about. Wendigoon has a wonderful breakdown on the subject as well as plenty of other sources. The M16 and its family are the greatest service rifle the US has fielded, it just had a bad start because of petty government officials.
One thing I will bring up, a while back on a forum, I think it might have been on TV Tropes or IGN, someone wrote that in early development the game was to be spread across to the 1980s. I've not been able to find it since, but I feel like that would explain a lot of the weapon inaccuracies (such as Hudson using a Steyr AUG and a G11 in his 1968 missions).
@@retro_today no worries! would love to see World at War btw (if that wasn't already something you're gonna do) its been hailed as the most historically accurate COD campaign and would love to see you break it down and pinpoint how much of that was just clever marketing versus actual historical representation!
"I don't think the North Vietnamese used tanks..." im also pretty sure they didn't use American grenade launchers that weren't in use, or fn fal rifles, or acog scopes
great video!! Would love to see you have a look at the historical missions in Call of Duty Black Ops 2. I would especially like to see your take on Suffer With Me with Manuel Noriega
This is definitely a long shot, but it would be cool to see a a video on Call of Duty 2: Big Red One. It's a spinoff game that, if my memory serves me well, follows the U.S. 1st infantry division throughout World War 2. It's the game that inspired my interest in history, I've always wondered how well it actually holds up from an accuracy standpoint.
The part about Vietnamese tanks made me think of this episode of Greatest Tank Battles that I watched. And in fairness to Treyarch, I think the NVA did basically use tanks to assault positions around Khe Sanh, so the portrayal here is probably inspired by that. They talk about this battle around the 17 minute mark in the video. th-cam.com/video/xxRvOVQ16_Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qYLWDVujlWL7z9No Also thinking about Vorkuta, for people who go deep in the CoD lore, there may be an argument that the Soviets actually wanted Mason to escape. Because they were programming him as a sleeper agent to carry out missions like killing JFK back in the US. So perhaps that would explain how he managed to make it all the way out of the USSR from the prison camp. Finally wanted to say thanks for the great videos! They've been entertaining and informative.
The M16 did not jam because of poor design. It was because of the gun powder used in the gun. There was a whole scandal that took place because the US army didn't want to use the M16 as a new gun because it was made by someone else than Springfield Armory that was a company that had its roots start from the American Independence war. It mostly made guns for the United States government. After a few tests that were meant to fail the government got suspicious because when the Airforce tested it out it was a perfect rifle and adopted as a weapon to be used for their soldiers who protect airbases from the ground. The government told the Army to drop the act and to start using the M16. Of course the gun was not perfect in moist and muddy jungles of Vietnam but it was one of the best rifles soldiers have ever fired by their words. After a lengthy investigation and financial troubles Springfield Armory was closed. After closing a company took the name Springfield Armory and started using it as their own. The old Springfield Armory buildings are now used as an museum. Neat.
I've had an idea for a series where I would play as many WW2 games as I could, all in chronological order and try to make it like a full history course using the absolute plethra of WW2 games, correcting inaccuracies and highlighting aspects of everything WW2 shows. I've already got the timeline down, just need to finally do it.
My favourite call of duty game :) (I’ve played like 3). It’s definitely good, they have a couple inaccuracies in technology and it definitely gets very call of duty-esq if you get me, but still fun
Credentials are pointless, it's just piece of paper that does not always show how knowledgeable someone is. I've known many people who went to university and hardly know what they should giving their education. You however definitely seem very good at historical retelling, definitely earned the sub (I am a little biased toward education because I've studied history daily for 15 years yet because I can't afford university people don't take me seriously)
Thank you! Honestly, I totally agree, in terms of the education I got it helped me more with my writing and research skills rather than historical analysis or specific periods and events. It’s not for everyone, I’d say it’s only useful if you’re moving into a career focused on it
@@retro_today that I can agree on. For me personally it sucks because I'm only 21 but I've studied since I was 6 daily. I have friends and family who got a history education. All of them have told me that my knowledge definitely would be that of a university degree holder; sometimes I even know a lot more on topics then even them. I just can't afford the education nor were my grades there in school.
I think reason they have been using seems and footage and weapons from the 70s, 80s, and early 90s is because they want more weapon variety and also footages from different time frames in the mission intro because either to make it more dramatic or maybe they didn’t know how to introduce the story for main the plot line which was about stopping the Russian missile attack on the USA. It’s possible that the reason there are things that didn’t happen in real life that are shown in the game like Russian soldiers in Vietnam, destroying a Soviet rocket, Nova 6 is because some of the missions we go through are suppose to be classified which means the stuff they do is not going to recorded in history books at least the one involving Nova six middles. Of course none of this happened in real but this game in my opinion represents the level secrecy and covers ups that went on during the Cold War.
Hey bro I love you videos. I am very young but I do take a very big interest in history too. I would love if you could make a video about the historical accuracy of call of duty WW2 because from what I'm aware of it's more accurate than vanguard but I'm sure there's still inaccuracies. Thanks:)
Great video, extremely informative about this period in history. These inaccuracies in Black Ops don't bother me as much as in other games, since the entire game is told from Alex Mason's point of view and, as we discovered during the game, he is an extremely unreliable narrator, as his memory is completely fucked up. , so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that some passages in the game are a more fanciful version of what really happened or that the dates aren't 100% accurate.
I think the critical success of Black Ops is that while it isn't competely faithful to reality, it feels close enough to it to get the vibe across much in the same way Battlefield 1 did
Not related to a matter of accuracy, but shortly after BO came out Fidel Castro and Cuba in general critized the shit out of the Castro body-double assassination. Fidel said something to the effect of "the US had to make a video-game to kill me in because they couldn't do it IRL." I think that is hilarious and honestly probably a little bit true lol. Castro basically just said "Skill issue, cope."
Alright because the M16 has a lot of what can be called "Fudd lore" around it let me start by saying this: The M4A1 URGI currently used by US Special Forces is mechanically almost IDENTICAL to the original M16, main differences being gas tube and barrel length and material coatings. We're also just much better at producing firearms of the AR pattern nowadays to a point where adopting anything else for standard infantry or SF is more about politics than anything. Back in Vietnam the M16 was BRAND NEW. Heck the US didn't officially adopt it until 1963 when involvement in Vietnam had already started. It was originally seen as a "Carry along" gun that would be replaced by something from the SPIW program and it was much easier to use and tote around than an M14. The problems the M16 had in Vietnam were inherently political, it wasn't incompetence, it was a very immature weapons system that ended up being forced into a role it was never intended to fill and had to go through a trial of absolute hell fire. Many issues the original M16 did face in Vietnam (because yes immature platforms WILL have problems), were pretty much fixed by the time of the M16A1, which would've been reaching field use by the time of Vietnam missions in the game. Long story short the M16 was procured at a time when the government needed guns, the M14 wasn't cutting it, and the SPIW program was going on and eventually died.
dunno about other stuff but im eastern european an my grandfather was in a gulag in 70-80 but it wasnt called a gulag but it still existed. so the fact that brežnev said that he colosed gulags doesent mean mutch. also our country had soviet nuklear silos until we declared independance. check out Baltic freedom road 4 more info.
I have a question for the comments so do you know how any they find the identity of deaf head SS Nazi guard in the trial him even though he's alive. Should we do the same thing to surviving members of wars that take place between now and between world war II I think yes if we're going to be fair about it but what do you think
Apologies for the audio quality between 01:00 to 2:16, the music in the bar is copyrighted which I wasn't aware of and so TH-cam took the music out and kept the other audio mostly intact
i was wondering why the girl was dancing to no music
Technically it's not. The bar is in Cuba where there was no copyright law at that time.
A minor inaccuracy you missed in S.O.G. is that at the beginning of the mission the song "Fortunate Son" by CCR can be heard playing over the radio, but that song was not released until September of 1969.
True but its a veitnam game its almost a sin not to have it in the game though they could have picked a different song.
>Fortunate Son playing in January 1968
>Wasn't released until October 1969
Can just say Mason’s memory of the incident wasn’t too accurate haha
And plus it would almost be a crime to not include the song in the mission
Remember to avoid cod vanguard, it will give you an aneurysm
Oh god, I even forgot that was a game... maybe we'll have to have a look!
there's soooo many historical errors lol
Its fun to read this comment now :p
@@retro_todaywords said right before disaster
@@UNO279 vanguard tries to be canon to Black Ops, but it’s so disconnected, that I don’t count it as canon to anything except WW2.
Just noticed that the M16 in game goes from m16A1-a2 to a m16A3 if you had a optic to the gun
Fun fact: The M16A3 was actually initially Navy owned M16A1 lower receivers with A2 uppers until actual dedicated A3 marked receivers were adopted. The M16s in this game simply have their carry handle chopped off, and it appears that the entire front sight, which also acts as the gas block, is completely removed, which would effectively turn the weapon into a a straight-pull bolt action rifle! Just my "um acktually" moment, lol.
@@GrumpyMann interesting
@@GrumpyMann Only issue is that the M16A3 (at least as far as official adoption goes) never existed. The models went M16, M16A1, M16A2, then M16A4.
This was fantastic. Black Ops 1 was one of my favorite campaigns in Call of Duty but it was cool seeing how accurate/inaccurate the historical details were.
The m16 wasn't poorly designed, it was poorly fielded. The army knew there were problems with the m16 before they were sent to Vietnam. The army sent rifles that weren't properly tested to Vietnam for political reasons.
The US ordnance department cut corners because they where jealous that the wood and steel M14 a government made weapon was inferior to the m16 and a lot of corners where cut to make the weapon look bad and to save money
From its conception the m16 was "doomed" by politics , yet when the jackasses started to listen (or more like.... "why is everyone die.... OOOOOOH") , we made history.
One of the main issues was that the weapon was somehow issued without any cleaning kits, or instructions on how to clean it. To make matters worse, the Army decided to issue ammunition with a different type of powder than the weapon was designed for. The powder had a different pressure curve, causing issues with extraction of spent brass. The only real issue with the design was the lack of a chrome-plated barrel.
@@TheDeadfastare you by chance a fan on wendigoon
@@wafflefries3779 I do watch his videos, but I haven't yet had the time to watch his latest one on the M16, which I'm guessing is why you brought him up. My knowledge comes from a video by SmallArrmsSolutions I watched a couple of years back. Looking it up, it's called "What Happened with the M16 in Vietnam?" in case you're interested.
2:22 a photo of gallipoli is used when talking abt op 40
The red army did actually purchase winchester lever guns in limited numbers during WW1 so one floating around in the armory of a prison is not totally unthinkable I guess
Would love to see World at War, defiantly one of my favourite call of duty's
23:10
Fun fact, the reason why the M16A1/XM16E1 mostly performed poorly was because Springfield Armory (the actual armory that was in charge of standardizing guidelines and blueprints on new weapon platform creations to provide to American companies who were contracted to build them, not the manufacturing company that came later) was most likely pissed off no one wanted their heavy-ass M1 Garand 2.0 (the M14) that was made of WOOD being used in a south Asian HOT TROPICAL ENVIRONMENT and couldn't be accurately fired on full-auto, lied about ballistic performance the M16 rifle had because of the powder they used in the cartridges during testing. Like, actual forgery... Eugene Stoner, our lord and savior, designed it with a specific powder that caused the weapon platform to function pretty much perfectly, that led to fans of it saying that it "cleans itself". But because Springfield wanted to be buddy-buddy with a company that makes smokeless powder that not only doesn't provide proper expansion pressures, causing feeding issues and serious wear n tear on the weapon, but also burns slower, causing unburnt powder to remain inside the chamber and barrel. Making the "self-cleaning" aspect look like a bunch of malarkey that Eugene lied about. Which is why troops weren't issued cleaning kits for some f*cking reason. @Wendigoon has a great video on it!
But yeah... Vietnam War and the M16 TLDR: American Government starts a pointless proxy war that gets so screwed up they have to send American troops to fight it, get their asses handed to them because the weapon that the gov created sucks, reluctantly acquires the patent to the perfect weapon, lies about testing performance and provides the bad ammunition that causes said weapon to not work to save a few bucks that ends up costing brave men who volunteered and draftees who were put there against their will, to lose their lives, all for the US to pull out anyway with no victory.
This is completley off topic, bit THIS is why i love the Folsom Carbine in the Resistance series 😂😂, Its literally just M14's big brother
anyway, i highly reccomend you look up the Pentagon wars and then compare it to the BTR - 80
12:04 are not going to talk about the fact that a winchester 1887 fires 2 rounds before spinning the lever
i think it was meant to be a sawn off double barrel shotty but it's changed to M1887 due to Terminator 2's references (and to top it all off the M1887 itself is actually useable ingame if you spawn it with a cheat & issa MW2 model + it's using SPAS 12 animation for some reasons)
This campaign may not have been historically accurate, but it’s so great I don’t care.
I would love to see what you think of Black Ops Cold War next
Just made my way through all your 'historian reacts' videos, and I really appreciate the macro perspective you're bringing to these game scripts. Hope to see more!
I think another thing to discuss with Mason during his escape from Vorkuta is he was born and raised in rural Alaska. He taught to hunt, fish, and camp in the Alaska frontier. Which I think would have helped his escape from Vorkuta.
Also I just wanted to say I think this video is awesome and you got yourself a new fan
Thank you so much!
The US military, mainly the US ordnance department intentionally sabatoged the M16. They used the wrong powder for the ammo ( cause it was cheaper) did not issue cleaning kits, and cut design corners thay the maker of the weapon Eugene Stoner was furious about.
Wendigoon has a wonderful breakdown on the subject as well as plenty of other sources. The M16 and its family are the greatest service rifle the US has fielded, it just had a bad start because of petty government officials.
You might be interested in why the m16 had problems in the beginning… it wasn’t because the design was bad like many think
Why did it have problems?
@@jonnyinch8158 bureaucracy
One thing I will bring up, a while back on a forum, I think it might have been on TV Tropes or IGN, someone wrote that in early development the game was to be spread across to the 1980s. I've not been able to find it since, but I feel like that would explain a lot of the weapon inaccuracies (such as Hudson using a Steyr AUG and a G11 in his 1968 missions).
this is that shit I've been waiting for, you're the man
also just a heads up if you have the steam overlay on while you're recording to monitor your FPS you might run into some trouble
I did not know that, thanks! I have actually been having issues with that!
@@retro_today no worries! would love to see World at War btw (if that wasn't already something you're gonna do) its been hailed as the most historically accurate COD campaign and would love to see you break it down and pinpoint how much of that was just clever marketing versus actual historical representation!
Great video and I really like the blacked out mission titles
"I don't think the North Vietnamese used tanks..." im also pretty sure they didn't use American grenade launchers that weren't in use, or fn fal rifles, or acog scopes
I remember there was a guy who escaped from siberia and travelled to koningsberg in times of russian empire 😊
great video!! Would love to see you have a look at the historical missions in Call of Duty Black Ops 2. I would especially like to see your take on
Suffer With Me with Manuel Noriega
Loved this man, please do more!
Thank you! I’ve got another one in the pipeline as we speak
This is definitely a long shot, but it would be cool to see a a video on Call of Duty 2: Big Red One. It's a spinoff game that, if my memory serves me well, follows the U.S. 1st infantry division throughout World War 2. It's the game that inspired my interest in history, I've always wondered how well it actually holds up from an accuracy standpoint.
The part about Vietnamese tanks made me think of this episode of Greatest Tank Battles that I watched. And in fairness to Treyarch, I think the NVA did basically use tanks to assault positions around Khe Sanh, so the portrayal here is probably inspired by that. They talk about this battle around the 17 minute mark in the video.
th-cam.com/video/xxRvOVQ16_Y/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qYLWDVujlWL7z9No
Also thinking about Vorkuta, for people who go deep in the CoD lore, there may be an argument that the Soviets actually wanted Mason to escape. Because they were programming him as a sleeper agent to carry out missions like killing JFK back in the US. So perhaps that would explain how he managed to make it all the way out of the USSR from the prison camp.
Finally wanted to say thanks for the great videos! They've been entertaining and informative.
The M16 did not jam because of poor design. It was because of the gun powder used in the gun. There was a whole scandal that took place because the US army didn't want to use the M16 as a new gun because it was made by someone else than Springfield Armory that was a company that had its roots start from the American Independence war. It mostly made guns for the United States government. After a few tests that were meant to fail the government got suspicious because when the Airforce tested it out it was a perfect rifle and adopted as a weapon to be used for their soldiers who protect airbases from the ground. The government told the Army to drop the act and to start using the M16. Of course the gun was not perfect in moist and muddy jungles of Vietnam but it was one of the best rifles soldiers have ever fired by their words. After a lengthy investigation and financial troubles Springfield Armory was closed. After closing a company took the name Springfield Armory and started using it as their own. The old Springfield Armory buildings are now used as an museum. Neat.
I've had an idea for a series where I would play as many WW2 games as I could, all in chronological order and try to make it like a full history course using the absolute plethra of WW2 games, correcting inaccuracies and highlighting aspects of everything WW2 shows. I've already got the timeline down, just need to finally do it.
My favourite call of duty game :) (I’ve played like 3). It’s definitely good, they have a couple inaccuracies in technology and it definitely gets very call of duty-esq if you get me, but still fun
Credentials are pointless, it's just piece of paper that does not always show how knowledgeable someone is. I've known many people who went to university and hardly know what they should giving their education. You however definitely seem very good at historical retelling, definitely earned the sub
(I am a little biased toward education because I've studied history daily for 15 years yet because I can't afford university people don't take me seriously)
Thank you! Honestly, I totally agree, in terms of the education I got it helped me more with my writing and research skills rather than historical analysis or specific periods and events. It’s not for everyone, I’d say it’s only useful if you’re moving into a career focused on it
@@retro_today that I can agree on. For me personally it sucks because I'm only 21 but I've studied since I was 6 daily. I have friends and family who got a history education. All of them have told me that my knowledge definitely would be that of a university degree holder; sometimes I even know a lot more on topics then even them. I just can't afford the education nor were my grades there in school.
I think reason they have been using seems and footage and weapons from the 70s, 80s, and early 90s is because they want more weapon variety and also footages from different time frames in the mission intro because either to make it more dramatic or maybe they didn’t know how to introduce the story for main the plot line which was about stopping the Russian missile attack on the USA. It’s possible that the reason there are things that didn’t happen in real life that are shown in the game like Russian soldiers in Vietnam, destroying a Soviet rocket, Nova 6 is because some of the missions we go through are suppose to be classified which means the stuff they do is not going to recorded in history books at least the one involving Nova six middles. Of course none of this happened in real but this game in my opinion represents the level secrecy and covers ups that went on during the Cold War.
Hey bro I love you videos. I am very young but I do take a very big interest in history too. I would love if you could make a video about the historical accuracy of call of duty WW2 because from what I'm aware of it's more accurate than vanguard but I'm sure there's still inaccuracies. Thanks:)
03:55 crazy thing is the same thing happened during the Bin Laden raid lol
The amount of skill issue with the air strike at 26:33 on the background gameplay, other than that amazing vide
Great video, extremely informative about this period in history. These inaccuracies in Black Ops don't bother me as much as in other games, since the entire game is told from Alex Mason's point of view and, as we discovered during the game, he is an extremely unreliable narrator, as his memory is completely fucked up. , so it wouldn't be a stretch to say that some passages in the game are a more fanciful version of what really happened or that the dates aren't 100% accurate.
I think the critical success of Black Ops is that while it isn't competely faithful to reality, it feels close enough to it to get the vibe across much in the same way Battlefield 1 did
Not related to a matter of accuracy, but shortly after BO came out Fidel Castro and Cuba in general critized the shit out of the Castro body-double assassination. Fidel said something to the effect of "the US had to make a video-game to kill me in because they couldn't do it IRL."
I think that is hilarious and honestly probably a little bit true lol. Castro basically just said "Skill issue, cope."
Alright because the M16 has a lot of what can be called "Fudd lore" around it let me start by saying this:
The M4A1 URGI currently used by US Special Forces is mechanically almost IDENTICAL to the original M16, main differences being gas tube and barrel length and material coatings. We're also just much better at producing firearms of the AR pattern nowadays to a point where adopting anything else for standard infantry or SF is more about politics than anything.
Back in Vietnam the M16 was BRAND NEW. Heck the US didn't officially adopt it until 1963 when involvement in Vietnam had already started. It was originally seen as a "Carry along" gun that would be replaced by something from the SPIW program and it was much easier to use and tote around than an M14.
The problems the M16 had in Vietnam were inherently political, it wasn't incompetence, it was a very immature weapons system that ended up being forced into a role it was never intended to fill and had to go through a trial of absolute hell fire.
Many issues the original M16 did face in Vietnam (because yes immature platforms WILL have problems), were pretty much fixed by the time of the M16A1, which would've been reaching field use by the time of Vietnam missions in the game.
Long story short the M16 was procured at a time when the government needed guns, the M14 wasn't cutting it, and the SPIW program was going on and eventually died.
dunno about other stuff but im eastern european an my grandfather was in a gulag in 70-80 but it wasnt called a gulag but it still existed. so the fact that brežnev said that he colosed gulags doesent mean mutch. also our country had soviet nuklear silos until we declared independance. check out Baltic freedom road 4 more info.
I have a question for the comments so do you know how any they find the identity of deaf head SS Nazi guard in the trial him even though he's alive. Should we do the same thing to surviving members of wars that take place between now and between world war II I think yes if we're going to be fair about it but what do you think
Oh yeah
Someday it might be cool to check COD World at War
I wanna see you react to call of duty, World at War!!
can you do battlefield ww1? me and many others think its the best battlefield... aside from its release it wasn't a very good release
Do cod was next
React to Call of Duty World at War
*you know what? 1 and 2 better than rest all 3-4-5 and 6 black ops.*
This game is awfully inaccurate.
Is it just me or it's the fact that the scale modeling of the M16 and Commando Rifles are short carried by NPCs?
The game is anachronistic mess
Call of duty in general needs to be sued!