Meant to mention an interesting factoid. When weighing the stock EXB chassis vs M2C Racing, I found M2C only added about 75g of weight 👀. Stock weighed 1076g. M2C was 1152g. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Curious what the weight of this beast with the lipos and everything. And speaking of weight, are there Basherqueen CF parts you could get to lighten this thing up some? You've fed way too many double doubles to this thing!
@@ZeuZLoD she tips the scales just around 31lbs fully dressed with 7200mah Lipos 😱. There's not much besides CF chassis braces that would shed much weight with this design. Still moves great with proper power 😍
Sooper Doops at it again! Those triple back flips man. Like wow. Yeah RPM needs to redesign those arms so we can use the droop screws. Awesome bash as always. You rule, and in my opinion, you are the most consistent person I see on youtube bashing these rigs. 🤙☝️🦾
Thanks so much Brother 😜. Hopefully RPM will rethink their design. I've noticed their rear arms seem backordered 👀. We'll see, but I might have to come up with something to control droop. Really appreciate your kind words my friend. 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I made up some straps using 1.5mm stainless cable and crimps just using a slightly longer shock bolt and a spacer just long enough to clear the shocks. Did you have to make clearance to get the exb shock rod end in the rpm arm? I'm just building some shocks using exb ends and the bolt hole wont even line up I'm thinking of filing the arms a little?
@@brentjames7497 I never filed my RPM arms, but that's not a bad idea. The fitment is extremely tight at the shock rod ends. Makes setting them a pain in the ass 😂
Effortless! Love your vid and of course the durability tests you put on these vehicles with the M2C parts! Will be ordering parts for the typhon 6s and the BR! 🍻
Thanks so much Jason 🤗. I've tried to push the boundaries along with my own comfort level bashing these rigs. I think the only way to know limitations is to explore them. These rigs continue to surprise and amaze me and the fun factor is just awesome 😍👍👍😎💪👊👊
Mate, you make that thing look like a 6s. I can't believe how you can just launch that thing and get it to land so perfectly. It's really an amazing machine to be able to jump that far and be so agile, it really is a superb example of what a great design the Arrma 8s models are. The M2C stuff is such great quality and the fitment is spot on, I've got the blocks all round and motor mount with the chassis on my k8s and it is such a beautiful build, just waiting for the exb rear turnbuckles to arrive in stock in Australia. Great inspirational driving and awesome video mate!
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! I still feel ARRMA doesn't get the credit they deserve for this 8s platform 👀. The gears/diffs are nearly indestructible and the handling is so nice 👌. Love the modular design. M2C is such a pleasure to mount up. Mitch and Avery both take such pride in their work 😍. I'm honored to help test and refine these fine parts. Really appreciate your kind words my friend. Cheers 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 absolutely, it is funny when we change out so many of the parts on our rigs, but really the design is there, just might be a little fragile when really abused. I'm really grateful for the hard work that you do along with Mitch and Avery. I've definitely benefited, well my cars have! Thanks for taking the time to reply and hope you are getting enough time to enjoy to yourself and family, take care Bro!
Nice Brother Rch 🍻🤜😀, definitely a pretty beast, with M2C Racing and RPM upgrades it is really very robust 💪💪, as always crazy jumps, really loved that triple backflipe that corrected frontflip in the air 😁😁👍 Take care my friend and have a good bash 🤝😀
Thanks so much Brother Avery 😜!!!! Shout outs most deserved. Big Girl EXB is running straight again thanks to M2C at her foundation 😍. It's so nice bashing worry free with 100% confidence. 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊
Thanks so much Brother Dennis 😜!!!! I didn't fully scope out the landing area and noticed later that mound of weeds was hiding a man hole cover 😂. Glad I got enough speed to clear it. Had a Blast out there with Big Girl EXB once again 😍. Huge props to Mitch and Avery for pushing the envelope with these Killer upgrades!!!! Truly appreciate the comment Brother 🤗. Hope all is well with the family 🙏👍👍😎💪👊👊
Killer vid Brother Rich!👊 Getting her to real "Extreme" bash worthy!😱🤣The EXB links and other touches they did paired with the M2C beef makes a unstoppable rig for sure! I added the EXB bits to mine, bumper, tires and links. Made a HUGE overall difference paired with the already M2C'd rig!💪💪Just put RPM arms on the rear of mine. Worried about the droop screw situation but like you said, at least you get full travel and workout from the shocks.👌Killer sends and loved the triple!🥰M2C shafts are going to be legendary once dialed! Bash on bro!😎👊💪🚀🚀
Thanks so much Brother Eric 😜!!!! I've had Killer luck overall with the EXB 8s, but the chassis swap was a bit overdue 😂. I was doing some twisted sister my last run 😱🤣. Hard to compete with M2C grade 💪. Going on rollercoasters with the family right now 🙀. Hopefully get back out again soon. Really appreciate it Brother 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊
Way better channel than RC sparks, dude has over 3 million subscribers. He use to actually do RC cars now he plays in the dirt digging for gold. Glad to find a channel that is straight RC cars.
Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Some guys have humongous channels. This one is all RC. Yes we have fun and laugh in group bash sessions 😂 but it's all bashing, build overviews, tips/tricks, upgrade testing/review...all RC based. Really appreciate it my friend. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Picked up one of these and went to a 1/10th scale track. Broke the right lower front a arm and cracked the upper left front a arm. Ordered the RPM arms, so hopefully they hold up. And yes, my driving skills need a lot of improvement. Not used to this scale. However, it is a fun vehicle. No regrets.
Another killer run with K8S EXB Bro Rich. Good call on the M2C chassis. Excited to know those M2C driveshafts are doing well thru your abuse so far. nailed that triplets beautifully. Glad you caught those rocks jammers LOL 🤣. Sucks on the turnbuckle snappage. Wicked senders as always man.. another killer test for sure.
The drive shafts seem killer I can't wait for them to available. I feel like I've said this before but that spot with the 2 big mounds really does look like an absolute blast. Such a brute she really did take some awesome sends. I almost forget I'm seeing the 8s experience not the 6s pulling off so many backflips and so smoothly. BTW speaking of smooth that was awesome save when it was kinda wonky in the air. I would still love mitch to put out an attachment for the chassis to run rpm arms n have some sort of droop setting. I'm still thinking a strap limiter might be my best bet. Thank you for a super fun and awesome video man. She's truly dialed in 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
@@jonowillmer They are available now. I'm about to install the first one since I bent the crap out of one of my front shafts during the last bash and horrible landings with my Outcast 8s.
Yeah no droop points may play a part with rod end damage but only time will tell🤞 awesome bash as always man! Oh and good news, after 6+ months on backorder I finally got my 6s EXB, 1 bash and it's my new favourite💪😂🤘
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! Congrats on your new EXB 😍. That's one heck of a wait. Mine is a favorite no question. Just a Killer all around basher 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
I wanted to ask, could you not use the EXB Rear Lower Chassis Brace (ARA320597) with the M2C chassis? I am very interested in getting this chassis but not sure how I feel about not getting rid of that brace.
The stock and EXB braces all fit with the M2C chassis's. The braces are softer 6061 aluminum though and not as durable as 7075 aftermarket options. Specifically, the base of the brace can round off after enough hard use. The best brace designs utilize a through bolt design with M4 lock nut on top. Sheering bolts off in braces is a serious PITA 😂. On that note, grade 12.9 hardware is the best for higher stress connections. 😎💪👊👊
The way that thing flies through the air it makes sense that it sounds like a jet engine coming up to the jump. I replayed one of them and shut my eyes and it sounded just like a frikin aeroplane!
Yeah I love the sounds too 😍. These 8s rigs have a commanding presence 👀. I've been hit once, and it gets your attention quick. There's a lot of force behind them once they get moving 😱😂😎💪👊👊
Rich I had another question for you as you know I am looking into building out a 1/8 EXB myself from all my million other questions I have asked you so far LOL. How is it you wire up the batteries to the ESC when you end up using 2 packs? Since I know if you are able to run a single pack i.e. 6S, 4S, etc it is easy since you just have the 2 wires from the ESC with the single connector on it. But if you are running 6S or 8S and have to use multiple packs to how it is you connect the two batteries to the ESC if there is only a single connector there? I am have not seen a setup in person where I could just look and see how it is done. Only thing I picked up is in those instances there is a loopback adapter you need to use when you only use one battery instead of two.
Another amazing video. The RPM arms don't have grub screw place or don't mach with the m2c chassis? I think limit the travel of the shocks prevent wear on those.
@@richduperbash2966 RPM designer's has some problems. Kkkkkk Whem I buy rpm arms for my Tracxas Jato 3.3 the arms are stronger tham stocks but didn't have the sway bars attachment. 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Thanks so very much dear Brother 😍. Been working like a dog lately and it felt great to get out 🤗🥰🥰. Nice to have the M2C chassis 😱. Stock had seen better days 😂. Hope you are well my dear friend. Talk soon of course 😁🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
A rich I started running the rpm arms on mind and I did start having problems with it popping rod ends so I made a the set of small limiting straps to set the droop on my truck. I had some quarter inch wide strap material and they seemed to be working really well just my 2 cents
Rich what diff fluid do you recommend brand and weight wise in your Kraton that you would recommend for me? Since I seen and heard a lot of different things but not sure what is true and way off from what I thought the manual recommended. I was looking to pick some up when I order my EXB so I have it on hand since I currently do not have any.
I'm still running 1 million cst front, half 20 million and half Silicone ear plug center, and 500k rear. I use Gravity RC fluids and normally Team Associated Factory for the 500k. There's a shortage of diff fluids right now. Good luck with it. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 ok, maybe this is common term or not but what do you mean "half silicon eat plug center"? No idea if you are literally putting in an earplug in there or not.
@@richduperbash2966 Rich how you doing buddy? Hope you had a good Fathers Day. For your shock oil what do you run brand and weight? Also what would you recommend for me with a 1/8 scaled EXB using the stock shocks or if I went with the M2C 3480 16MM ZRS Shock setup?
@@DonnieKluck thanks Brother 🤗. Had a good Father's Day. Just saw your last message. Yes....I put atleast 1 Silicone ear plug mixed with 20mil cst center diff fluid in all my 8s rigs. It packs it with your fingers just like silicone putty. For the ZRS 6s setup, I still recommend 80 weight as a good starting point. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 Rich thanks appreciate the feedback. I am glad to hear that you had a good Father's Day. I think I am going to get the beefcake package from M2C when I order the EXB so I will have all the goodies and be a fun build. I will continue to run 80wt then. That is so weird and odd using an earplug and 20mil cst, that just is mind boggling to me. But man if it works sweet.
quick question... is running silicon earplugs in the center diff ok to do with nothing else but the ear plug? does it provide enough lubrication on its own, to keep the diff from over heating? For example, behind the planetary gear, pretty sure none of the earplug gets behind it, can this overheat and create an issue... or am I fine?
Hi Rich. Does no one do aluminum A arms because they need to have some flex or because it would be too heavy or both or something else? Thanks brother 👊🏼 🍻
Aluminum arms are a bad idea for a basher. They add weight and once they're bent, they're usually trash. Arms have to have some flex or they'll just lead to other breakages such as hinge pins, suspension blocks, bulkheads, and hub carriers.
Sick triple. I would love to have a spot like that. Way too many trees around here on anything that's not flat. I finally got my rig to the point where it's only bending CVDs. RPM arms are way too flexible, but they can take some wicket abuse. Def gonna get the shafts. Even if they last one more run than stock, they're worth it - since the stockers can't even last one run . . .
I'm running a Hobbystar 6912HV from RCJuice. You need the larger ARRMA servo tray and have to either shorten the stock servo saver adjustment screw about 3mm or add an extra screw spacer (they come with a replacement ARRMA servo saver screw). I covered this in my earlier setup vid if you want a visual. Right around 2:30 🍻😎💪👊👊 th-cam.com/video/C2fdZqxBRkU/w-d-xo.html
@@richduperbash2966 Honestly you are the greatest and most helpful RC car TH-camr I have stumbled across been subscribed for a few months now! Thanks so much for not only the response but the explanation on what you did and how you did it!
@@tubby23 you bet Brother 👊. I try to help where I can. Whether it's something I learned the hard way 😂 or was kindly shared from someone else, I try to pass it along 🍻
Confusion regarding running 20mil diff fluid combined with silicon ear plugs... are the plugs being put in to thicken it up even more... somebody told me once that 20mil diff fluid is thicker than silicon ear plugs... but I'm not sure. If one were to run 100% silicon ear plugs in the center diff, what would be the equivalent cst, or mill rating? Also... just in general, what is the benefit fo running thicker material (such as silicon plugs) in the center diff, as apposed to 500k or 1 mill?
Soft silicone ear plugs are definitely thicker than 20mil cst. I'm not sure by how much 🤔. My guess is atleast twice the density just by feel. I usually mix 50/50 of each, but used more like 60/40 this time. The advantage is less power bleeding to the front wheels and simply ballooning and more power to the ground. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Good to see you back at it Rich. I am amazed at how solid these m2c chassis are. Such a great piece for the arrma line. Im curious what your take on the rpm is in the long run.
Hey rich was wondering if you have made a video on slipper clutch adjustment? Do you go a half turn out from tight on all your rigs? Looking to adjust one on a granite
I haven't made a video, but yes I run my rigs a 1/2 turn out from tight. I've found it's easiest to have the slipper module or gear itself in my hands when setting it and add thread lock if necessary. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Bro for the weight this thing Flys and For its size as long as you land decent takes a beating. The new location doesn't have to many rocks to worry about. Most the spots rocks 🪨 are a killer for us lol. M2c for the win
Thanks so much John 🤗. You nailed it with her size and landing decent. I'm still shocked these 8s rigs fly so damn well 😱🤣🤣. Hope you made it out yesterday Bro. All my plans went out the window. Got a terrible migraine at work and had to completely vegetate in the dark once I got home 😝. Feeling better today thank goodness 🙏. Can't wait to finally try the new spot. Glad there's no rocks to deal with 🍻😎💪👊👊
Rich what ramps are you using on the gravel hill there? It looks like 2 black ramps. Curious as I am trying to find some good ramps out there rather than building one out of wood.
Yes...there are a few issues. The shock rods are a pain to cram into the arms. If I recall correctly, I had to use longer bolts to secure the sway arm pivots. I honestly don't like the 8s RPM arms 😝. This is after running them up front for awhile. No droop screw location 👎. They flex so much that other issues arise. Bent driveshafts and shock rods. Most everyone I run with has gone back to stock arms. They handle and perform better than the RPM arms. 🍻
Rad Rich! Killin' it again brother! Thanks so much for all the pointers, tips, and tricks! Super stoked for the driveshafts from M2C! I've sheared off the cross pins on two of my CVD driveshafts on the 8s EXb so far... not sure if this is a design flaw or a bad batch of shafts. I've contacted H H for some replacements. Still waiting on that... Thanks again for the excellent vids dude, keep up the great work! BTW have you had any problems with the cross pins, or are you just bending these driveshafts? Anyone else in the comments having probs with the cross pins as well? I am running the HW 800kv Max5 combo with the same diff weights as Rich is, except 300k in the rear. Thanks!
Thanks so much Brother 😜. I have actually busted several 8s crosspins and bent driveshafts. Not so much with my EXB, but definitely on my Outcast 8s and K8s RTR. I'm not sure it's a design flaw 🤔. I'm thinking it's a hardness issue with the material. I really noticed it running the belted Duratrax Six Packs X's and 840kv Hobbystar 😱🤣🤣. Seems like sudden hits on power (jumping a ledge or abrupt vertical face) would slow a wheel quickly enough to sheer the pin clean off 😝. I'm probably having better luck with the softer EXB tires and 980kv. Mitch's pins are a high grade hardened steel 😍🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Nice, thanks, Rich! You know, sure enough, I am running the Six Packs X's. I did shear the first cross pin with the stock Big Block tires tho. I really like the new BB tires, but the reason I'm not running those is, I've cracked all four rims! Such a bummer. Not too happy with that result but I figured I would chalk it up to my fault with non-perfect landings, and run the Duratrax. The funny thing is, I'm not jumping mine even a fraction of how high you are with yours. I maybe get 10-15 feet off the ground. Hmm, oh well it's all part of the hobby I guess. This truck is still putting the biggest smile on my face so far! Thanks for the reply brother, I will def be picking up those M2C shafts when available!
Hey rich.. Do u approve of rpm arms on the kraton 8s v2 because there are ppl like u that bash hard with stock and I go out & in 20 mins of proper landing perfect I snap arms every outing. Maybe im doing something wrong?
So far I'm digging these RPM arms. My buddy Dave has been running them on his O8s for awhile and he's happy 👍. I've had really good luck with stock arms overall. My shop didn't have any stock fronts so I figured I'd finally try the 8s RPMs. I'm not sure what to say about mixed results with the stock arms 🤔. Running softer suspension definitely helps though. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Rich if you are 39 pinion / 39 spur how do you keep your temps down on your motor? It’s 59F here, and my HobbyWing 800kV was at 163F after one 5000mAh rip with my Panthers at 39/39.
I'm still running 34/34 with my RTR K8s and Hobbystar 56112 840kv and Max5. My motor will hit 160's running belted Duratrax Six Packs which are about the same size and weight as the new EXB Big Blocks (minus the ballooning). If your mesh, bearings, and connections are good, I would either gear down/wheel down or consider a fan. Not sure if you're running on grass, but that'll heat electronics up. While on the hot side, your motor is still in the reasonably safe temp range. Problem is that might change as the weather warms. 😎💪👊👊
Thanks Howard 🤗. You could certainly use fuel tubing under the pistons, but my final analysis of the RPM arms is they flex too much. That allows damage to the CVD's and shock shafts. The stock arms handle better and don't strain others parts.
@@richduperbash2966 awesome! Been enjoying your vids, just subscibed. Im in Sac as well and have my first big rc on the way. K8S exb. Didnt go crazy motor wise, just max5/1100kv. Gotta learn. Maybe I will see you out bashing one day, I will stop and say hello.
What motor are you running on the kraton 6S truggies? I got arrma kraton 6s v5, but I need help deciding between a max8 combo or Max6 combo. My cousin has max6 but he hasn't run it yet. The max6 his got is so heavy and don't know if it will get the air time I want because I want my kraton to jump higher. Thanking you in advance #fromaustralia
I'm running a Max6 ESC with a Hobbystar 4092 1480kv in one K6s and a 1730kv Hobbystar in the other. They're a bit lighter than the 4985 Hobbywing. The Max8 2200 combo is great in a Typhon, but can overheat a bit easily in the heavier Kraton. You're limited with pinion size selection running a 2200 in any heavier rig. 😎💪👊👊
Even stock it's around 31lbs with my electronics and 7200mah Lipos. The M2C chassis only added 76g over the stock EXB one 👀. I weighed them to compare and was pretty surprised. 🍻
It only aded 76g? That’s quit surprising. But dude you have too watch out! If that thing hits you in the face after sending it full speed of the ramp, you’ll probably be dead instantly. But I love your vids! Keep going and take care!
Rich what steering servo are you running in the 1/5 8S? I have been through two now and none are strong enough to turn the trick. My current turning radius at a decent speed is about 15’ and that is not acceptable. I need to get it to turn a lot tighter. Need a stronger servo for sure. Help me solve this issue or my 1/5EXB will retire and I will be going back to 1/8EXB
I'm running a Hobbystar 6912HV servo. I'll link you to my set-up vid because it's got helpful info about needing to shorten the stock servo saver screw or add a 2nd aluminum spacer to fully close the saver assembly with the bigger servo. Still running 32/39 gearing. I hit around 150F max most times. That's acceptable for maximum performance and efficiency. Beyond 165-170 you have to gear down, wheel down, or consider using a cooling setup. I should add it's possible your saver is too loose. Also helps to turn up the BEC voltage in the ESC settings.🍻😎💪👊👊th-cam.com/video/C2fdZqxBRkU/w-d-xo.html
Yes Gary 🤗. Everything M2C makes serves a specific function. It's always to increase durability and performance. They use the best materials available. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I agree with your last statement about M2C quality! I have their dog bones, drive shafts and drive cups on my Talion XL and it is very robust setup. I've since purchased a Kraton EXB 8S stepping into a new world of the 1/5 scale. This is a new platform for me, so I tend to ask a lot of questions before I do hop ups along with my own testing and tuning for my setup. Thank you for your help.
I'm using simple sliding window screen from Home Depot. My blades still break from impacts 😝. I doubled up on the small stock rubber fan gaskets and put HD Velcro padding under the motor part of the fan. Not sure it'll do anything 😂. I think an aftermarket fan is the solution, just not sure which one yet. 😎💪👊👊
Joe Lagano from nascar could use a driving lesson after today!😲Crazy air attacks once again! Love it! IRP Steel Racing Rod End Set for HPI Baja 5B/5T - tr334 Would these fit? I don't think you'll break those if they work.
Thanks so much Brother 😜. I'll have a look at that HPI rod end set 👀. Always curious about durability options. These EXB rear tie rods are 8mm diameter. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966NO PROBLEM dude!!! Something has to give and not the rod ends😯😲😳Same thread size as the hpi baja!!! There are a couple different companies that make them. You may have to do some dremel grinding on them to fit!
They should name an airline after you. do you have any suggestions for the ever breaking tail support on the 6s line exb? (Besides me learning how to control ;) like after market? thanks!
Thanks Brother 🤗. I stick with the ARRMA HD wingmounts. I've tried RPM and Tbone through the years and the HD has been the best for me. I also prefer the Typhon/Talion wing over the Kraton one. It seems to protect the tower better for harsh impacts. 😎💪👊👊
@@MauzyrockRC I use longer M3 socket head screws and snug them down before every run. Monsterbolts.com sells 12.9 grade hardware. That's the best I've found. I use 12.9 for my motor mount and chassis brace screws also. 👍
Hey Rich, each time I watch your vids I have to get out my k6 exb. I have a reefs 444 servo, strong, but all servo power getting lost in servo saver. You know how to sort that out? Thanks!
You have to add C-clips or spacers under the servo spring. I'll link you to a how to video by my buddy James from our M2C test team. 😎💪👊👊th-cam.com/video/7ABiyC1Vv6E/w-d-xo.html
Man that's a tough call 🤔. I dig all the 3s rigs 😂. The Vorteks looks fast AF for the wheelbase, but I haven't driven one or done a close inspection to pass a credible opinion. The lower ride is a plus for speed, but can be a hindrance on rougher or rocky terrain 🤔. Haven't watched many vids on it either. The BIg Rock V3 is a winner no question. It's great for all around bashing. I did change the tires and shocks on mine, but the stockers aren't terrible. It was a preference thing more than anything having known the performance gains from my previous version. Good luck with whatever you decide Brother 👊. There's tons of shared parts and upgrade support either way. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 awesome man thanks for your opinion, it’s highly valued. When you expect to get hands on with the vorteks? If it’s not up to par it’ll have to be the big rock 😁
I run anywhere I can Carson 👍. This spot is in Lincoln off 12 Bridges about a mile from hwy65 behind the Walgreens. Let me know if you have any good spots to hit up. 🍻😎💪👊👊
I think you're spot on Toby 🤗. I'm running fuel tubing in my slammed Big Rock 3s road drifter. I'll probably put some in soon 👍. Awaiting some prototype 7mm M2C hardened shock shafts with Delrin cartridges 👀. The EXB ones have done great, but the fronts are starting to bow after all the abuse 😂. Really appreciate the tip Brother!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
Thanks so much Brother Aaron 😜!!!! I'm pretty hooked on this EXB 8s 😂. Mitch is just upping the durability factor 😍💪💪. Excited to try his prototype 7mm shock shafts soon. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
Thanks Brother 🤗. These are hardened steel shafts. Mitch has made some paper light tapered 7075 T6 center driveshafts for on road applications 👍. I've been testing those in my lowrider, Typhon based street build and they've done stellar 😍. They spool up super fast. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Excellent Mitch is the man 👍 Thanks Bro 👊👊👊👊👊👊keep them excellent vids rollin 😎😎🏁🏁 just got me a new O8s Body today for $50 😂😂😂😂😂😂 for my LHS can't beat that with a stick 😎😎😎✌👍✌
Hi, mate good job as always could I ask where you got your jump ramps I have been looking for some but can't find any but saw you had some, always loving the vids 😉 take care buddy cheers gav 👍👊
Thanks so much Gav 🤗. I got mine from Discountramps.com 2+ years ago. Unfortunately, seems like they've been discontinued 😝. I'm actually looking around myself as mine are pretty trashed 😂😎💪👊👊
Man it's such a small space between the arm and driveshaft even on the 6s models. That should be addressed but that means a whole new rear end design most likely. Does M2c make the driveshafts for the 6s? Great bash Rich! Have a great weekend!
Thanks so much Brother 😜. Yeah spacing is tight. Rock guards would probably help some. Gravel pits and piles are a crap shoot every time 😂. Mitch and Avery will likely be offering all sorts of 6s and 8s shafts and other hardened steel upgrades with their new screw machine up and running 😱. They can even handle titanium options. The door has opened for all sorts of potential options. Have a great weekend too my friend!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I forgot about those arm guards. Might be an option. Good to hear about options! I finally have EXB chassis braces and changed out my diff fluid for the first time. Center diff was a bit tricky with the braces and getting the dog bones into the sleeves. Lol Newb issue. Had to take the braces all the way out. Anyways I bought gaskets for the diffs, somehow I only seem to find a gasket on the center diff, which leads me to believe there are now 2 gaskets on the f/r because I somehow didn't notice them which seems unlikely because how much I cleaned the housing...hell idk. 🤣 sorry for the novel
Whole vid was great! But I especially love the beginning. 😊 I often take my Arrma rigs on nature "walks" with me down by the river to see what kind of spots I can find to rip them. 😁 Side note...any chance those beefed up drive shafts will be compatible with the Outcast 8s? 🤷🏻♂️
Another awesome vid Rich. Love those RPM arms bro, got them on my 6S rig. Nice driveshafts too man. Is Mitch also working on a set for the 6S rigs? I threw a pin out of the diff side of my rear driveshaft on my last bash. Just pressed a ground down 3mm allen key into it today and seems to be good. Just saw that you have no covers over your shock rods. Aren’t they getting blasted with the rocks and grit coming off the front wheels? Lookin forward to the next vid brother. 😃👍🏼
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! Nice fix with the Allen key 👊. Mitch will likely offer hardened 6s driveshafts soon. I believe they're just getting caught up with orders and newer projects at the moment. Their newest CNC machine has enabled them to produce all sorts of steel and titanium upgrades 😱. Appreciate the suggestion with the shock covers.🍻😎💪👊👊
Sick as always! 🤘🏻 Hey man can I ask what lipos you use for ye 6s kraton? My exb has the same setup you use, max6 and the 1650 hobbystar but my lipos puff and get so hot man? I use 6s 6000mah HRB and 6s 5000mah nanotech? I don't think they're up to the job. Thanks man 👍🏻
I use those too but 2 3s , you get what you pay for , I just started using one 6s pack and I bought powerhobby , knowing one cell can ruin the pack you better off spending the extra few bucks on better brands imo , Duperbash likes those lectron I beileive , the ones from rc juice he answer you eventually, im going order that setup myself max6 and 16 or 1750 hobbystar motor .
Thanks Brother 🤗. I use Hobbystar 5000mah 100c single 6s hardpacks with a single EC5 off my ESC. Make sure your connections/solder joints look solid. I've had a bad solder job cause me serious grief with my Lipos before. My Kraton 8s RTR had a bad joint I had to redo. 😎💪👊👊
😮 Gravity? What Gravity? 😮 Killer ripping as always 👏. RPM did not good with the design of the arms 👎, it's just a shock rod end killer and hard on the shock piston all the time. They should know better that the hard basher needs that feature. AWESOME that M2C now makes these long turning pieces like drive shafts 👍👍👍 The extra weight from the M2C Chassis is worth it, girls like a little extra weight at the right spots even when overall less weight is always better. Bash on! 😘😘😘
Thanks so much Kimberly 😍. RPM might want to start consulting the basher community before going full bore with their molds 👀. Little details like moving the stock 6s droop screw position have a significant impact. Not sure why they threw out the concept entirely with the 8s arms 😂. Mitch will be offering an assortment of hardened steel ARRMA shaft upgrades soon 👍. I was shocked to realize his K8s chassis is only 76g heavier than the stock EXB 8s one 😱. I'll take that extra weight in the right place any day 🥰🥰😋. Really appreciate your thoughtful comment as always. There's only one Basherqueen 😘😘😎💪👊👊
Thanks Roberto 🤗. I'm still running 32/39 (spur) gearing with the Hobbystar 56112 980kv 👍. Temps have been great overall. We'll see once it's 100F+ outside soon 😂😎💪👊👊
Nothing is indestructible, a Nascar would blow up with inexperienced driver trying keep up with Honda, dosen't mean the Nascar not extreme and can't lap the Honda with a Nascar driver.
I haven't seen any brand RC this size and weight (30+ lbs) doing stuff like this. Breakages and upgrades are part of the hobby. In the end, it really depends on bashing styles. Lots of people don't launch theirs. 😎💪👊👊
Meant to mention an interesting factoid. When weighing the stock EXB chassis vs M2C Racing, I found M2C only added about 75g of weight 👀. Stock weighed 1076g. M2C was 1152g. 🍻😎💪👊👊
It’s crazy how much stronger the m2c chassis are than stock considering the minimal weight difference.
@@itchyprince3793 it really is 👀. I was surprised the weights were so close 👍
Curious what the weight of this beast with the lipos and everything. And speaking of weight, are there Basherqueen CF parts you could get to lighten this thing up some? You've fed way too many double doubles to this thing!
@@ZeuZLoD she tips the scales just around 31lbs fully dressed with 7200mah Lipos 😱. There's not much besides CF chassis braces that would shed much weight with this design. Still moves great with proper power 😍
@@richduperbash2966 Ya man that thing is scary powerful and watching it fly through the air majestic.
you are the best I have seen in the Rich discipline !! 👍🏻 great video great driving as always.
Sooper Doops at it again! Those triple back flips man. Like wow. Yeah RPM needs to redesign those arms so we can use the droop screws. Awesome bash as always. You rule, and in my opinion, you are the most consistent person I see on youtube bashing these rigs. 🤙☝️🦾
Thanks so much Brother 😜. Hopefully RPM will rethink their design. I've noticed their rear arms seem backordered 👀. We'll see, but I might have to come up with something to control droop. Really appreciate your kind words my friend. 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I made up some straps using 1.5mm stainless cable and crimps just using a slightly longer shock bolt and a spacer just long enough to clear the shocks.
Did you have to make clearance to get the exb shock rod end in the rpm arm? I'm just building some shocks using exb ends and the bolt hole wont even line up I'm thinking of filing the arms a little?
@@brentjames7497 I never filed my RPM arms, but that's not a bad idea. The fitment is extremely tight at the shock rod ends. Makes setting them a pain in the ass 😂
Cats take lessons from Rich on how to land upright 😎🇺🇸
You nailed it😂😂
That thing is like a lawn mower on them hills. Nice truck . Beautiful sends. . Awesome content
Thanks so much Brother 😜. She mows right up those steep, loose hills. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Effortless! Love your vid and of course the durability tests you put on these vehicles with the M2C parts!
Will be ordering parts for the typhon 6s and the BR! 🍻
Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Really appreciate it. Happy bashing!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
Man iv seen so many of your videos and wow man you really put this to a sport limit and skill argument of what is possible with physics
Thanks so much Jason 🤗. I've tried to push the boundaries along with my own comfort level bashing these rigs. I think the only way to know limitations is to explore them. These rigs continue to surprise and amaze me and the fun factor is just awesome 😍👍👍😎💪👊👊
Mate, you make that thing look like a 6s. I can't believe how you can just launch that thing and get it to land so perfectly. It's really an amazing machine to be able to jump that far and be so agile, it really is a superb example of what a great design the Arrma 8s models are. The M2C stuff is such great quality and the fitment is spot on, I've got the blocks all round and motor mount with the chassis on my k8s and it is such a beautiful build, just waiting for the exb rear turnbuckles to arrive in stock in Australia. Great inspirational driving and awesome video mate!
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! I still feel ARRMA doesn't get the credit they deserve for this 8s platform 👀. The gears/diffs are nearly indestructible and the handling is so nice 👌. Love the modular design. M2C is such a pleasure to mount up. Mitch and Avery both take such pride in their work 😍. I'm honored to help test and refine these fine parts. Really appreciate your kind words my friend. Cheers 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 absolutely, it is funny when we change out so many of the parts on our rigs, but really the design is there, just might be a little fragile when really abused. I'm really grateful for the hard work that you do along with Mitch and Avery. I've definitely benefited, well my cars have! Thanks for taking the time to reply and hope you are getting enough time to enjoy to yourself and family, take care Bro!
@@jonowillmer thank you Brother 🤗. Truly appreciate it 🍻
I'm really liking the RPM arms on my Outcast rig, just had to rig up some limiting straps out of paracord to make up for the lack of droop screws
Nice Brother Rch 🍻🤜😀, definitely a pretty beast, with M2C Racing and RPM upgrades it is really very robust 💪💪, as always crazy jumps, really loved that triple backflipe that corrected frontflip in the air 😁😁👍
Take care my friend and have a good bash 🤝😀
Dude. Epic bash as always! I was digging that monster burnout! Thanks for posting and Shout-outs!
Thanks so much Brother Avery 😜!!!! Shout outs most deserved. Big Girl EXB is running straight again thanks to M2C at her foundation 😍. It's so nice bashing worry free with 100% confidence. 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊
That K8S is a beast! Keep it up rich!
Sup Rich
That send at 3:53 off the big mound 😱😱🚀🚀
Good lord
Great stuff my friend
Thanks so much Brother Dennis 😜!!!! I didn't fully scope out the landing area and noticed later that mound of weeds was hiding a man hole cover 😂. Glad I got enough speed to clear it. Had a Blast out there with Big Girl EXB once again 😍. Huge props to Mitch and Avery for pushing the envelope with these Killer upgrades!!!! Truly appreciate the comment Brother 🤗. Hope all is well with the family 🙏👍👍😎💪👊👊
Damn brother!!! That big rig is so beautiful and just flies so nice 🥰🥰 The hiking trail footage was a nice additive as well, 👌👌
Dude ends up in some crazy angles and still manages to land out. Man can definitely drive the wheels off these things!
Thanks so much Justin 🤗. This Big Girl is such a Beast 👀. Such a riot to bash. 🍻😎💪👊👊
SUPERMAN! Back at it!!!
Killer vid Brother Rich!👊 Getting her to real "Extreme" bash worthy!😱🤣The EXB links and other touches they did paired with the M2C beef makes a unstoppable rig for sure! I added the EXB bits to mine, bumper, tires and links. Made a HUGE overall difference paired with the already M2C'd rig!💪💪Just put RPM arms on the rear of mine. Worried about the droop screw situation but like you said, at least you get full travel and workout from the shocks.👌Killer sends and loved the triple!🥰M2C shafts are going to be legendary once dialed! Bash on bro!😎👊💪🚀🚀
Thanks so much Brother Eric 😜!!!! I've had Killer luck overall with the EXB 8s, but the chassis swap was a bit overdue 😂. I was doing some twisted sister my last run 😱🤣. Hard to compete with M2C grade 💪. Going on rollercoasters with the family right now 🙀. Hopefully get back out again soon. Really appreciate it Brother 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊
The sound of the tires is awesome "asmr"
Awesome bashing brother and great video. The k8 exb is definitely a tank thanks for inspiring me to by mine.
That thing actually flys ... great vid
Great footage
Awesome info , you got it all bud
Thanks so much Brother 🤗. This rig is such a Blast 😍. Really appreciate the kind words. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Don't know how you and a Cat land upright almost perfectly but I do enjoy it. What a beast that thing is.
Way better channel than RC sparks, dude has over 3 million subscribers. He use to actually do RC cars now he plays in the dirt digging for gold. Glad to find a channel that is straight RC cars.
Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Some guys have humongous channels. This one is all RC. Yes we have fun and laugh in group bash sessions 😂 but it's all bashing, build overviews, tips/tricks, upgrade testing/review...all RC based. Really appreciate it my friend. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Picked up one of these and went to a 1/10th scale track. Broke the right lower front a arm and cracked the upper left front a arm. Ordered the RPM arms, so hopefully they hold up. And yes, my driving skills need a lot of improvement. Not used to this scale. However, it is a fun vehicle. No regrets.
Another killer run with K8S EXB Bro Rich. Good call on the M2C chassis. Excited to know those M2C driveshafts are doing well thru your abuse so far. nailed that triplets beautifully. Glad you caught those rocks jammers LOL 🤣. Sucks on the turnbuckle snappage. Wicked senders as always man.. another killer test for sure.
Definitely a sick build 👍👍 and u have the best vids on U-T 👍👍
The drive shafts seem killer I can't wait for them to available. I feel like I've said this before but that spot with the 2 big mounds really does look like an absolute blast. Such a brute she really did take some awesome sends. I almost forget I'm seeing the 8s experience not the 6s pulling off so many backflips and so smoothly. BTW speaking of smooth that was awesome save when it was kinda wonky in the air. I would still love mitch to put out an attachment for the chassis to run rpm arms n have some sort of droop setting. I'm still thinking a strap limiter might be my best bet. Thank you for a super fun and awesome video man. She's truly dialed in 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Waiting for those M2C shafts since I can't stop landing on one wheel 😂😅. Epic bash as usual my friend 👍👍👍👍👍
You and me both, haha!
@@jonowillmer They are available now. I'm about to install the first one since I bent the crap out of one of my front shafts during the last bash and horrible landings with my Outcast 8s.
@@joseCalderon1976 very cool, I hope they work out really well for you.
Nice video brother 👍 upgrades are definitely a plus for rc she took it like a champ 💪 sick bash 👊
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! My EXB chassis did what it could, but it's far from M2C grade for harder bashing 💪. Really appreciate it. 🍻😎💪👊👊
You built the king of 1/5th scales right here.
This vs an xmaxx would be close, the xmaxx just has the weight perfected which may give it just a little more strength🤙👍
Yeah no droop points may play a part with rod end damage but only time will tell🤞 awesome bash as always man!
Oh and good news, after 6+ months on backorder I finally got my 6s EXB, 1 bash and it's my new favourite💪😂🤘
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! Congrats on your new EXB 😍. That's one heck of a wait. Mine is a favorite no question. Just a Killer all around basher 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
What a beast! Love it. Great mods and some super serious airborne antics. 👍🤪👍
I wanted to ask, could you not use the EXB Rear Lower Chassis Brace (ARA320597) with the M2C chassis? I am very interested in getting this chassis but not sure how I feel about not getting rid of that brace.
The stock and EXB braces all fit with the M2C chassis's. The braces are softer 6061 aluminum though and not as durable as 7075 aftermarket options. Specifically, the base of the brace can round off after enough hard use. The best brace designs utilize a through bolt design with M4 lock nut on top. Sheering bolts off in braces is a serious PITA 😂. On that note, grade 12.9 hardware is the best for higher stress connections. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 okay I gotcha. Thanks for the info and the great videos!
@@fuzzytech3846 you bet Brother 👊. Just try to shoot straight and share my first hand experience. 🍻
The way that thing flies through the air it makes sense that it sounds like a jet engine coming up to the jump. I replayed one of them and shut my eyes and it sounded just like a frikin aeroplane!
Yeah I love the sounds too 😍. These 8s rigs have a commanding presence 👀. I've been hit once, and it gets your attention quick. There's a lot of force behind them once they get moving 😱😂😎💪👊👊
Killed it Rich, so impressive
Big dawg right there. Love anything m2c
Wow that's thing is definitely rich and Eric bashed approved. She such a sweet rig you got. If I ever go 8S that's the one il get.
Can't wait for those m2c drive shafts!!!
awesome bashing,have a great weekend brother
Rich I had another question for you as you know I am looking into building out a 1/8 EXB myself from all my million other questions I have asked you so far LOL. How is it you wire up the batteries to the ESC when you end up using 2 packs? Since I know if you are able to run a single pack i.e. 6S, 4S, etc it is easy since you just have the 2 wires from the ESC with the single connector on it. But if you are running 6S or 8S and have to use multiple packs to how it is you connect the two batteries to the ESC if there is only a single connector there? I am have not seen a setup in person where I could just look and see how it is done. Only thing I picked up is in those instances there is a loopback adapter you need to use when you only use one battery instead of two.
Wow nice vehicle & bashing bro👍🧡
Another amazing bash wow!!!
Another amazing video. The RPM arms don't have grub screw place or don't mach with the m2c chassis? I think limit the travel of the shocks prevent wear on those.
Thanks Ruda 🤗. Correct... unfortunately RPM neglected designing for droop screws. That was a big oversight on their part. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 RPM designer's has some problems. Kkkkkk Whem I buy rpm arms for my Tracxas Jato 3.3 the arms are stronger tham stocks but didn't have the sway bars attachment. 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Plain simple OUTSTANDING sessiln dear brother, to wake up to this 5 52am made ma day. Took some serious beating 🥰🥰❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks so very much dear Brother 😍. Been working like a dog lately and it felt great to get out 🤗🥰🥰. Nice to have the M2C chassis 😱. Stock had seen better days 😂. Hope you are well my dear friend. Talk soon of course 😁🚀🚀😎💪👊👊
Epic rich just epic lol I’m glad you do this makes me smile every time .
Thanks so much Curtis 🤗. Have a great weekend Brother 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 will do rich , picked up a new maxx, this time I won’t be leaving it in the car like I did with my Mojave when it got jacked lol.
A rich I started running the rpm arms on mind and I did start having problems with it popping rod ends so I made a the set of small limiting straps to set the droop on my truck. I had some quarter inch wide strap material and they seemed to be working really well just my 2 cents
Thanks so much James 🤗. I'll probably have to do the same. Much appreciated Brother. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Looking good air time as usual mate 🤣😅 👍👍🤙
Rich what diff fluid do you recommend brand and weight wise in your Kraton that you would recommend for me? Since I seen and heard a lot of different things but not sure what is true and way off from what I thought the manual recommended. I was looking to pick some up when I order my EXB so I have it on hand since I currently do not have any.
I'm still running 1 million cst front, half 20 million and half Silicone ear plug center, and 500k rear. I use Gravity RC fluids and normally Team Associated Factory for the 500k. There's a shortage of diff fluids right now. Good luck with it. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 ok, maybe this is common term or not but what do you mean "half silicon eat plug center"? No idea if you are literally putting in an earplug in there or not.
@@richduperbash2966 Rich how you doing buddy? Hope you had a good Fathers Day. For your shock oil what do you run brand and weight? Also what would you recommend for me with a 1/8 scaled EXB using the stock shocks or if I went with the M2C 3480 16MM ZRS Shock setup?
@@DonnieKluck thanks Brother 🤗. Had a good Father's Day. Just saw your last message. Yes....I put atleast 1 Silicone ear plug mixed with 20mil cst center diff fluid in all my 8s rigs. It packs it with your fingers just like silicone putty. For the ZRS 6s setup, I still recommend 80 weight as a good starting point. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 Rich thanks appreciate the feedback. I am glad to hear that you had a good Father's Day. I think I am going to get the beefcake package from M2C when I order the EXB so I will have all the goodies and be a fun build. I will continue to run 80wt then. That is so weird and odd using an earplug and 20mil cst, that just is mind boggling to me. But man if it works sweet.
quick question... is running silicon earplugs in the center diff ok to do with nothing else but the ear plug? does it provide enough lubrication on its own, to keep the diff from over heating? For example, behind the planetary gear, pretty sure none of the earplug gets behind it, can this overheat and create an issue... or am I fine?
Great question 👍. I'm not positive on the answer. 🤔. I've always ran some 20mil cst with my ear plugs. 😎💪👊👊
Hi Rich. Does no one do aluminum A arms because they need to have some flex or because it would be too heavy or both or something else? Thanks brother 👊🏼 🍻
Aluminum arms are a bad idea for a basher. They add weight and once they're bent, they're usually trash. Arms have to have some flex or they'll just lead to other breakages such as hinge pins, suspension blocks, bulkheads, and hub carriers.
Sick triple. I would love to have a spot like that. Way too many trees around here on anything that's not flat. I finally got my rig to the point where it's only bending CVDs. RPM arms are way too flexible, but they can take some wicket abuse. Def gonna get the shafts. Even if they last one more run than stock, they're worth it - since the stockers can't even last one run . . .
Awesome jumps bro 👌🙌
Thanks Chris 🤗🍻😎💪👊👊
What Servo are you using?
I'm running a Hobbystar 6912HV from RCJuice. You need the larger ARRMA servo tray and have to either shorten the stock servo saver adjustment screw about 3mm or add an extra screw spacer (they come with a replacement ARRMA servo saver screw). I covered this in my earlier setup vid if you want a visual. Right around 2:30 🍻😎💪👊👊 th-cam.com/video/C2fdZqxBRkU/w-d-xo.html
@@richduperbash2966 Honestly you are the greatest and most helpful RC car TH-camr I have stumbled across been subscribed for a few months now! Thanks so much for not only the response but the explanation on what you did and how you did it!
@@tubby23 you bet Brother 👊. I try to help where I can. Whether it's something I learned the hard way 😂 or was kindly shared from someone else, I try to pass it along 🍻
Confusion regarding running 20mil diff fluid combined with silicon ear plugs... are the plugs being put in to thicken it up even more... somebody told me once that 20mil diff fluid is thicker than silicon ear plugs... but I'm not sure. If one were to run 100% silicon ear plugs in the center diff, what would be the equivalent cst, or mill rating?
Also... just in general, what is the benefit fo running thicker material (such as silicon plugs) in the center diff, as apposed to 500k or 1 mill?
Soft silicone ear plugs are definitely thicker than 20mil cst. I'm not sure by how much 🤔. My guess is atleast twice the density just by feel. I usually mix 50/50 of each, but used more like 60/40 this time. The advantage is less power bleeding to the front wheels and simply ballooning and more power to the ground. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Good to see you back at it Rich. I am amazed at how solid these m2c chassis are. Such a great piece for the arrma line. Im curious what your take on the rpm is in the long run.
What are you using for you from bumper?
I'm using the stock ARRMA EXB bumper. 🍻
Hey rich was wondering if you have made a video on slipper clutch adjustment? Do you go a half turn out from tight on all your rigs? Looking to adjust one on a granite
I haven't made a video, but yes I run my rigs a 1/2 turn out from tight. I've found it's easiest to have the slipper module or gear itself in my hands when setting it and add thread lock if necessary. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Sounds good! Thanks for replying!👍🏼🤙🏼👊🏼
Bro for the weight this thing Flys and For its size as long as you land decent takes a beating. The new location doesn't have to many rocks to worry about. Most the spots rocks 🪨 are a killer for us lol. M2c for the win
Thanks so much John 🤗. You nailed it with her size and landing decent. I'm still shocked these 8s rigs fly so damn well 😱🤣🤣. Hope you made it out yesterday Bro. All my plans went out the window. Got a terrible migraine at work and had to completely vegetate in the dark once I got home 😝. Feeling better today thank goodness 🙏. Can't wait to finally try the new spot. Glad there's no rocks to deal with 🍻😎💪👊👊
Thumb up number 8..Great video bash killer💪🏻
Rich what ramps are you using on the gravel hill there? It looks like 2 black ramps. Curious as I am trying to find some good ramps out there rather than building one out of wood.
Those were from Discount ramps.com. Unfortunately, it seems they were discontinued over a year ago now 😝😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 thanks and dang it that is a bummer. Guess I will keep looking. Keep up the awesome videos.
Are there any issues with fitting the rpm arms? Do the sway bars and shock ends go into them fine?
Yes...there are a few issues. The shock rods are a pain to cram into the arms. If I recall correctly, I had to use longer bolts to secure the sway arm pivots. I honestly don't like the 8s RPM arms 😝. This is after running them up front for awhile. No droop screw location 👎. They flex so much that other issues arise. Bent driveshafts and shock rods. Most everyone I run with has gone back to stock arms. They handle and perform better than the RPM arms. 🍻
Rad Rich! Killin' it again brother! Thanks so much for all the pointers, tips, and tricks! Super stoked for the driveshafts from M2C! I've sheared off the cross pins on two of my CVD driveshafts on the 8s EXb so far... not sure if this is a design flaw or a bad batch of shafts. I've contacted H H for some replacements. Still waiting on that... Thanks again for the excellent vids dude, keep up the great work! BTW have you had any problems with the cross pins, or are you just bending these driveshafts? Anyone else in the comments having probs with the cross pins as well? I am running the HW 800kv Max5 combo with the same diff weights as Rich is, except 300k in the rear. Thanks!
Thanks so much Brother 😜. I have actually busted several 8s crosspins and bent driveshafts. Not so much with my EXB, but definitely on my Outcast 8s and K8s RTR. I'm not sure it's a design flaw 🤔. I'm thinking it's a hardness issue with the material. I really noticed it running the belted Duratrax Six Packs X's and 840kv Hobbystar 😱🤣🤣. Seems like sudden hits on power (jumping a ledge or abrupt vertical face) would slow a wheel quickly enough to sheer the pin clean off 😝. I'm probably having better luck with the softer EXB tires and 980kv. Mitch's pins are a high grade hardened steel 😍🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Nice, thanks, Rich! You know, sure enough, I am running the Six Packs X's. I did shear the first cross pin with the stock Big Block tires tho. I really like the new BB tires, but the reason I'm not running those is, I've cracked all four rims! Such a bummer. Not too happy with that result but I figured I would chalk it up to my fault with non-perfect landings, and run the Duratrax. The funny thing is, I'm not jumping mine even a fraction of how high you are with yours. I maybe get 10-15 feet off the ground. Hmm, oh well it's all part of the hobby I guess. This truck is still putting the biggest smile on my face so far! Thanks for the reply brother, I will def be picking up those M2C shafts when available!
Hey rich.. Do u approve of rpm arms on the kraton 8s v2 because there are ppl like u that bash hard with stock and I go out & in 20 mins of proper landing perfect I snap arms every outing. Maybe im doing something wrong?
So far I'm digging these RPM arms. My buddy Dave has been running them on his O8s for awhile and he's happy 👍. I've had really good luck with stock arms overall. My shop didn't have any stock fronts so I figured I'd finally try the 8s RPMs. I'm not sure what to say about mixed results with the stock arms 🤔. Running softer suspension definitely helps though. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Beautiful exb Car 🤩
Oh yeah you could put some droop springs in like crawlers to get your droop back. . Pen spring mod
Rich if you are 39 pinion / 39 spur how do you keep your temps down on your motor? It’s 59F here, and my HobbyWing 800kV was at 163F after one 5000mAh rip with my Panthers at 39/39.
I'm still running 34/34 with my RTR K8s and Hobbystar 56112 840kv and Max5. My motor will hit 160's running belted Duratrax Six Packs which are about the same size and weight as the new EXB Big Blocks (minus the ballooning). If your mesh, bearings, and connections are good, I would either gear down/wheel down or consider a fan. Not sure if you're running on grass, but that'll heat electronics up. While on the hot side, your motor is still in the reasonably safe temp range. Problem is that might change as the weather warms. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Thanks Rich. I appreciate it.
Shock limiting straps needed. 👍
Hey Rich, great video as always. Have you ever considered internal shock limiters to reduce droop with RPM arms?
Thanks Howard 🤗. You could certainly use fuel tubing under the pistons, but my final analysis of the RPM arms is they flex too much. That allows damage to the CVD's and shock shafts. The stock arms handle better and don't strain others parts.
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What the hell????????
How did u do that??
limit straps maybe?
some of those trails look like Folsom lake area. Are you in Nor-Cal?
Yes indeed Brother 🤗. Love Folsom Lake. The water level has finally come back up. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 awesome! Been enjoying your vids, just subscibed. Im in Sac as well and have my first big rc on the way. K8S exb. Didnt go crazy motor wise, just max5/1100kv. Gotta learn. Maybe I will see you out bashing one day, I will stop and say hello.
U make it look easy dawg,I can pull off some doubles but those triples are wild hahahah
What motor are you running on the kraton 6S truggies? I got arrma kraton 6s v5, but I need help deciding between a max8 combo or Max6 combo. My cousin has max6 but he hasn't run it yet. The max6 his got is so heavy and don't know if it will get the air time I want because I want my kraton to jump higher. Thanking you in advance #fromaustralia
I'm running a Max6 ESC with a Hobbystar 4092 1480kv in one K6s and a 1730kv Hobbystar in the other. They're a bit lighter than the 4985 Hobbywing. The Max8 2200 combo is great in a Typhon, but can overheat a bit easily in the heavier Kraton. You're limited with pinion size selection running a 2200 in any heavier rig. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 thank you so much for info, I watch a lot of your vids! Bloody unreal mate
@@StopTimeToEnjoy you bet Brother 👊
Nice! How much does the car weigh with batteries and all the upgrades?
Even stock it's around 31lbs with my electronics and 7200mah Lipos. The M2C chassis only added 76g over the stock EXB one 👀. I weighed them to compare and was pretty surprised. 🍻
It only aded 76g? That’s quit surprising. But dude you have too watch out! If that thing hits you in the face after sending it full speed of the ramp, you’ll probably be dead instantly. But I love your vids! Keep going and take care!
Rich what steering servo are you running in the 1/5 8S? I have been through two now and none are strong enough to turn the trick. My current turning radius at a decent speed is about 15’ and that is not acceptable. I need to get it to turn a lot tighter. Need a stronger servo for sure. Help me solve this issue or my 1/5EXB will retire and I will be going back to 1/8EXB
Also what hearing are you running? I have the same motor but am getting hot pretty quick
I'm running a Hobbystar 6912HV servo. I'll link you to my set-up vid because it's got helpful info about needing to shorten the stock servo saver screw or add a 2nd aluminum spacer to fully close the saver assembly with the bigger servo. Still running 32/39 gearing. I hit around 150F max most times. That's acceptable for maximum performance and efficiency. Beyond 165-170 you have to gear down, wheel down, or consider using a cooling setup. I should add it's possible your saver is too loose. Also helps to turn up the BEC voltage in the ESC settings.🍻😎💪👊👊th-cam.com/video/C2fdZqxBRkU/w-d-xo.html
Are the M2C bones strong enough to handle
a 1100kv motor running 32/39 gearing on 8S
Yes Gary 🤗. Everything M2C makes serves a specific function. It's always to increase durability and performance. They use the best materials available. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I agree with your last statement about M2C quality! I have their dog bones, drive shafts and drive cups on my Talion XL and it is very robust setup. I've since purchased a Kraton EXB 8S stepping into a new world of the 1/5 scale. This is a new platform for me, so I tend to ask a lot of questions before I do hop ups along with my own testing and tuning for my setup. Thank you for your help.
My fan blades keep breaking how do you prevent that do you have some mesh that you put on there
Yes use a screen
@@paulclancy2404 what kind
I'm using simple sliding window screen from Home Depot. My blades still break from impacts 😝. I doubled up on the small stock rubber fan gaskets and put HD Velcro padding under the motor part of the fan. Not sure it'll do anything 😂. I think an aftermarket fan is the solution, just not sure which one yet. 😎💪👊👊
@@paulclancy2404 like a wind ow screen
@@richduperbash2966 do they break all the time
Joe Lagano from nascar could use a driving lesson after today!😲Crazy air attacks once again! Love it! IRP Steel Racing Rod End Set for HPI Baja 5B/5T - tr334
Would these fit? I don't think you'll break those if they work.
Thanks so much Brother 😜. I'll have a look at that HPI rod end set 👀. Always curious about durability options. These EXB rear tie rods are 8mm diameter. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966NO PROBLEM dude!!! Something has to give and not the rod ends😯😲😳Same thread size as the hpi baja!!! There are a couple different companies that make them. You may have to do some dremel grinding on them to fit!
Also called hemi rodends
What motor and esc is that? That setup is beast mode. Love it.
Thanks Gary 🤗. That's a Hobbystar 980kv 56112 with Max5 and 32/39 gearing. 🍻
@@richduperbash2966 Thank you for all the videos you post and the R&D that you do. This is very helpful information that benefits all of us.
@@justaguyrc6303 you bet Brother 🤗. I love the wrenching, tuning, and experimenting 🍻
Damn, tearing it up rich, its scare how heavy the chassis is, about twice to 3 times what mine does on the reeper, killer video though
They should name an airline after you. do you have any suggestions for the ever breaking tail support on the 6s line exb? (Besides me learning how to control ;) like after market?
thanks!
Thanks Brother 🤗. I stick with the ARRMA HD wingmounts. I've tried RPM and Tbone through the years and the HD has been the best for me. I also prefer the Typhon/Talion wing over the Kraton one. It seems to protect the tower better for harsh impacts. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 sweet thanks, do you use a stronger screw? Mine seem to shear off then the mount snaps.
@@MauzyrockRC I use longer M3 socket head screws and snug them down before every run. Monsterbolts.com sells 12.9 grade hardware. That's the best I've found. I use 12.9 for my motor mount and chassis brace screws also. 👍
@@richduperbash2966 thanks so much man!
Hey Rich, each time I watch your vids I have to get out my k6 exb. I have a reefs 444 servo, strong, but all servo power getting lost in servo saver. You know how to sort that out? Thanks!
You have to add C-clips or spacers under the servo spring. I'll link you to a how to video by my buddy James from our M2C test team. 😎💪👊👊th-cam.com/video/7ABiyC1Vv6E/w-d-xo.html
@@richduperbash2966 Top notch bro thanks so much!
Rich best RTR basher for under 400? Not sure if I should get a bigrock/vorteks or one of the other 3, 3s cars. Thanks bud
Man that's a tough call 🤔. I dig all the 3s rigs 😂. The Vorteks looks fast AF for the wheelbase, but I haven't driven one or done a close inspection to pass a credible opinion. The lower ride is a plus for speed, but can be a hindrance on rougher or rocky terrain 🤔. Haven't watched many vids on it either. The BIg Rock V3 is a winner no question. It's great for all around bashing. I did change the tires and shocks on mine, but the stockers aren't terrible. It was a preference thing more than anything having known the performance gains from my previous version. Good luck with whatever you decide Brother 👊. There's tons of shared parts and upgrade support either way. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 awesome man thanks for your opinion, it’s highly valued. When you expect to get hands on with the vorteks? If it’s not up to par it’ll have to be the big rock 😁
@@V8chump not sure on the Vorteks 🤔. I want to take a closer look at my LHS first. 🍻
I live in elverta I heard you are local, where do you run these cars at
I run anywhere I can Carson 👍. This spot is in Lincoln off 12 Bridges about a mile from hwy65 behind the Walgreens. Let me know if you have any good spots to hit up. 🍻😎💪👊👊
Most insane vids on TH-cam!
Stick 5mm of fuel tubing under then end of the pistons - should help!
I think you're spot on Toby 🤗. I'm running fuel tubing in my slammed Big Rock 3s road drifter. I'll probably put some in soon 👍. Awaiting some prototype 7mm M2C hardened shock shafts with Delrin cartridges 👀. The EXB ones have done great, but the fronts are starting to bow after all the abuse 😂. Really appreciate the tip Brother!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
Nice doubles Rich! Not sure what's up with the design on those RPM arms 👀 The M2C driveshafts look niiiiccceee 👌👌
Thanks so much Brother Aaron 😜!!!! I'm pretty hooked on this EXB 8s 😂. Mitch is just upping the durability factor 😍💪💪. Excited to try his prototype 7mm shock shafts soon. 🍻👍👍😎💪👊👊
Are the new shaft 7075 aluminum
Excellent videos Duper
Thanks Brother 🤗. These are hardened steel shafts. Mitch has made some paper light tapered 7075 T6 center driveshafts for on road applications 👍. I've been testing those in my lowrider, Typhon based street build and they've done stellar 😍. They spool up super fast. 🍻😎💪👊👊
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Excellent Mitch is the man 👍
Thanks Bro 👊👊👊👊👊👊keep them excellent vids rollin 😎😎🏁🏁 just got me a new O8s Body today for $50
😂😂😂😂😂😂 for my LHS can't beat that with a stick
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Hi, mate good job as always could I ask where you got your jump ramps I have been looking for some but can't find any but saw you had some, always loving the vids 😉 take care buddy cheers gav 👍👊
Thanks so much Gav 🤗. I got mine from Discountramps.com 2+ years ago. Unfortunately, seems like they've been discontinued 😝. I'm actually looking around myself as mine are pretty trashed 😂😎💪👊👊
Where did you get those ramps from?
Got them from Discountramps.com. Unfortunately, I think they were discontinued. 😎💪👊👊
Man it's such a small space between the arm and driveshaft even on the 6s models. That should be addressed but that means a whole new rear end design most likely. Does M2c make the driveshafts for the 6s? Great bash Rich! Have a great weekend!
Thanks so much Brother 😜. Yeah spacing is tight. Rock guards would probably help some. Gravel pits and piles are a crap shoot every time 😂. Mitch and Avery will likely be offering all sorts of 6s and 8s shafts and other hardened steel upgrades with their new screw machine up and running 😱. They can even handle titanium options. The door has opened for all sorts of potential options. Have a great weekend too my friend!!!! 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 I forgot about those arm guards. Might be an option. Good to hear about options! I finally have EXB chassis braces and changed out my diff fluid for the first time. Center diff was a bit tricky with the braces and getting the dog bones into the sleeves. Lol Newb issue. Had to take the braces all the way out. Anyways I bought gaskets for the diffs, somehow I only seem to find a gasket on the center diff, which leads me to believe there are now 2 gaskets on the f/r because I somehow didn't notice them which seems unlikely because how much I cleaned the housing...hell idk. 🤣 sorry for the novel
Whole vid was great! But I especially love the beginning. 😊 I often take my Arrma rigs on nature "walks" with me down by the river to see what kind of spots I can find to rip them. 😁 Side note...any chance those beefed up drive shafts will be compatible with the Outcast 8s? 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks Brother 🤗. Love going for bash hikes 😍. These driveshafts will fit all the ARRMA 8s models. 🍻😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 sweet! 😎
Another awesome vid Rich. Love those RPM arms bro, got them on my 6S rig. Nice driveshafts too man. Is Mitch also working on a set for the 6S rigs? I threw a pin out of the diff side of my rear driveshaft on my last bash. Just pressed a ground down 3mm allen key into it today and seems to be good.
Just saw that you have no covers over your shock rods. Aren’t they getting blasted with the rocks and grit coming off the front wheels?
Lookin forward to the next vid brother. 😃👍🏼
Thanks so much Brother 😜!!!! Nice fix with the Allen key 👊. Mitch will likely offer hardened 6s driveshafts soon. I believe they're just getting caught up with orders and newer projects at the moment. Their newest CNC machine has enabled them to produce all sorts of steel and titanium upgrades 😱. Appreciate the suggestion with the shock covers.🍻😎💪👊👊
Sick as always! 🤘🏻 Hey man can I ask what lipos you use for ye 6s kraton? My exb has the same setup you use, max6 and the 1650 hobbystar but my lipos puff and get so hot man? I use 6s 6000mah HRB and 6s 5000mah nanotech? I don't think they're up to the job. Thanks man 👍🏻
I use those too but 2 3s , you get what you pay for , I just started using one 6s pack and I bought powerhobby , knowing one cell can ruin the pack you better off spending the extra few bucks on better brands imo , Duperbash likes those lectron I beileive , the ones from rc juice he answer you eventually, im going order that setup myself max6 and 16 or 1750 hobbystar motor .
Thanks Brother 🤗. I use Hobbystar 5000mah 100c single 6s hardpacks with a single EC5 off my ESC. Make sure your connections/solder joints look solid. I've had a bad solder job cause me serious grief with my Lipos before. My Kraton 8s RTR had a bad joint I had to redo. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 Thanks for the reply man! I'll look into getting some of them lipos! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
😮 Gravity? What Gravity? 😮 Killer ripping as always 👏. RPM did not good with the design of the arms 👎, it's just a shock rod end killer and hard on the shock piston all the time. They should know better that the hard basher needs that feature. AWESOME that M2C now makes these long turning pieces like drive shafts 👍👍👍 The extra weight from the M2C Chassis is worth it, girls like a little extra weight at the right spots even when overall less weight is always better. Bash on! 😘😘😘
Thanks so much Kimberly 😍. RPM might want to start consulting the basher community before going full bore with their molds 👀. Little details like moving the stock 6s droop screw position have a significant impact. Not sure why they threw out the concept entirely with the 8s arms 😂. Mitch will be offering an assortment of hardened steel ARRMA shaft upgrades soon 👍. I was shocked to realize his K8s chassis is only 76g heavier than the stock EXB 8s one 😱. I'll take that extra weight in the right place any day 🥰🥰😋. Really appreciate your thoughtful comment as always. There's only one Basherqueen 😘😘😎💪👊👊
Nice car man not as brave as you wid d launching just got mine
Thanks Brother 🤗. Congrats on your EXB 8s. She's a Beast 🍻😎💪👊👊
Rich Duperbash , dude you make those jumps looks easy stuff. Do you should up open a bashing school.
I love it
Best vids in TH-cam like 👍🏻 always rich 🤩🤩🤩
Your a god bro, what gearing are you running?
Thanks Roberto 🤗. I'm still running 32/39 (spur) gearing with the Hobbystar 56112 980kv 👍. Temps have been great overall. We'll see once it's 100F+ outside soon 😂😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 thank you so much rich, I appreciate all the work you do for us in the hobby..
It's crazy to see how many upgrade you need to improve an 'extrem basher' not so extrem.....
Nothing is indestructible, a Nascar would blow up with inexperienced driver trying keep up with Honda, dosen't mean the Nascar not extreme and can't lap the Honda with a Nascar driver.
I haven't seen any brand RC this size and weight (30+ lbs) doing stuff like this. Breakages and upgrades are part of the hobby. In the end, it really depends on bashing styles. Lots of people don't launch theirs. 😎💪👊👊
@@richduperbash2966 sûre but if you change arms and frame with taking exb, upgrade rtr May be cheaper.
@@aurelienbesse9426 I was thinking the same thing.
@@letfingerswalk these come as rollers though , so you can set em up way you want,