flew business class on this aircraft many times already and, I must say, flying business class onboard the A350 is one of the best flying experiences I’ve ever had, probably rivaling even the business class on an A380.
Nice story! Btw I’ve been in first long haul flight with the A350 from Manila to New York back in June 25 of this year. I was at the economy class seating and yeah, the experience was superb.
I imagine all business class seats to be superb, especially since I've only flown economy lol. I'm sure people who fly business class constantly have their complaints/opinions on which carrier has the best.
@@abdulwasey3506 As long airlines maintain 9 abreast, unfortunately most 777 operators milked their cash cow by installing 10 abreast seats. Boeing management already given green light to 11 abreast seats which is an abomination!
@@abdulwasey3506 Let's face it, 777 burns significantly more per trip than similar sized A350. 777X failed to close the gap. There's a reason why Boeing chose not to head-on, despite they know VLA is not the future.
Flew Singapore to Brisbane. It was so quiet, you could even hear the movie with the shitty earbuds they give you in cattle class. Was hella impressed with the A350. The only downside was Typhoid Ginger sitting in the same row coughing and having the nerve to tell a baby to shut up.
@@BlueArmeh88you’re going to be in for a absolute shock when you find out that languages like French, Spanish, German etc. assign genders to all nouns lmao
the A350 is such a quiet aircraft. Flying economy MEL - BKK for about 10 hours or so it was a absolute champ in how quiet it was compared to what Thai airways used to fly on the route (I think it was a 777-200?), even when I was sitting window a couple rows from the engine.
love the sound... If i can turn it down, but when at FL330 STILL LOUD! especially with all the cargo thai has onboard the engines are high performance and thus LOUD, love the sound but atleast in a sim you can turn it down.
Yup it is more comfortable, but it's also worth noting the 787 is in a completely diff category compared to A350. 787 made A330 irrelevant while A350 will decimate 777-200ER and LR
@@jonny1013 Overall you are right. But the subtlety is that the 787-9 which sells very well and which outsells the A350-900, slightly replaces the 777-200ER downwards as the A350-900 does upwards. 777-200ER 63 meters long carries 32LD3. The 787-9 62 meters long carries 36 LD3 containers (X4 more than the 772) and the 66-67 meters long A350-900 carries 36 LD3 containers (like the 787-9). This means that the 787's box and wings are much smaller than those of the two aircraft. The 787 is a leading animal that covers a GAP lower than the 777 and A350 but covering the core of the market with the 787-9. The whole 787 family had a sales record with 1,500 aircraft sold in +15 years
A350 and A380 were the most comfortable flight experiences I’ve ever had, with Boeings Dreamliner coming a close second. I also wanna give the 747 a mention. Although it wasn’t anything special comfort wise, flying with the Queen of the skies is a special experience.
A380 was probably the worst flight experience I have ever had. The cabin is so quiet from the engines that all you hear is angry mother's screaming at their kids in for 10 hours with 500 people
I prefer to fly on the 787 and 777 because they’re more an avgeeks treat, but having flown the A350 twice, the European trumps both of them in terms quietness and comfort in turbulence. The cabin is spacious and functional too, a great way to travel.
It’s fantastic. I used to fly the A320. As I went through the course, my partner and I were almost continually amazed by how clever the design was and how they’d sorted many things that were a pain in the A320.
Only boarded an A350 with Qatar Airways once in 2018, still cannot forgot how good it was Additional comments: Board an A350 with Thai Airways recently, still as good
Airbus has announced a freighter in July. Should sell well as Boeing is having enough problems getting the 777X passenger version out a freighter is likely to be later.
It's a really handsome plane - the nose looks very much like the original DeHavilland Comet - and I really like the black 'bandit mask' around the cockpit windows.
flying 777 and A350 back to back, Boeing must be hoping like hell that purchasers concentrate on sheer capacity and not the quality of the flight offered. The 777 felt very much like flying last decades technology.
"Puerto Real and Getafe". Nicely done! I don't have any experience flying on any of the newer planes, those two especially. But I gotta say, while the 787 is beautiful in every single way (in the wings especially), the A350 became my favorite plane of the duo of clean sheet planes. It suits me since I'm kind of a nerd with all love for technology, and Airbus is the one that brings innovation every time it launches something. Yup, the flying raccoon is the one that does it for me, even though the 787 is the most beautiful jet ever created... For now. And the cargo version? We'll see what can be the best idea to cut the threads of the carbon fiber for cargo doors.
Relatively speaking, A350 is not as radical as 787. But that also means technologies are proven and better understood, contributes to its higher reliability.
False. The 787 is better because the engines are bleedless. The 787 is more Electric The CFRP fuselage is an one piece design The A350 CFRP fuselage is a traditional 4 panels
@@lamjerrey6352 Not really, the A350 went into service quite a while before the 777X is scheduled to, so if anything the 777X is made more to compete with the A350, not the other way around
Bruh wtf i just started watching your videos a few hours ago and i legit searched right for the an A350 video right now then Boom... you just uploaded about it 27 minutes ago
The A350 is placed between the 787 and 777. Airbus and Boeing try to optimise for slightly different capacities to have some part of the segement for themselves.
The A350 has a more spacious interior but the 787 is just a marvel of engineering and one of the most beautiful aircraft ever constructed. The 787 also feels incredibly smooth so I’d say they’re neck in neck, although for me the 787 edges out. I absolutely LOVE the A380 though. Sad to see the demand for this model’s died out.
I always prefer A350 over B787. A350 is such a modern and spacious aircraft. I feel very safe to fly with A350 more than any other aircraft type. Very lucky to see most of the Asia based airlines are chosen A350 to serve long haul routes. In Long Haul market it's always A350 and Boeing 777 battling against each other.
Asian carriers carry more passengers and cargo than their Western peers, while flying further. A350 has higher payload-range, at the cost of ~2% efficiency disadvantge over similar sized 787 for shorter routes. So it'd be cheaper for TATL carriers to fly 787, and more profitable for TPAC carriers to fly A350.
@@steinwaldmadchen Thanks for your information. by the way A350 interior is much nice and quiet. When comparing with A330 it's a huge difference. but with the Boing 787, there isn't a huge gap, but there's some noticeable difference. A350 is much nicer. Didn't have a chance to fly on A380. I hope it will be great. I will have a chance to fly on A380 thanks to Emirates huge A380 fleet :D
Thank you very much for this - again - very informative video story! :-) The 350 F is meanwhile fixed by Airbus and should come into production in 2025.
See the differences in the issues between the 787 and the A350. Much less drama with steady progress. This is what a real engineering company should be. None of that flashy stock buybacks and production drama that seems to come hand in hand at boeing. Long term outlook for airbus is also much higher vs boeing struggling on almost all lines of their aircraft.
To be fair, some of the technologies are already ironed out in A380, so it's mature on A350. And 787 is more radical in some ways. But is Boeing fooling themselves twice? 777X doesn’t look very good to me......
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Whilst the B777X is not of composite construction, and is yet to enter commercial use Boeing has released some figures which don't compare favourably with the A350, unit cost being the most obvious. However as it has yet to enter service, commentary would be premature. But that is not the case with the B787. Having flown business class long haul in both the B787 & A350 on the same trip, as an indication of the experience, I now look for trip itineraries that use exclusively A350 or even A330 as a preference. My instant reaction to boarding a B787 for the first time was 'has the airline done an equipment change, it's a B767' but then I saw the big windows.! The A350 experience is sleek, clean, comfortable, quiet, sure quality, whereas the B787 feels a bit flimsy, 'bells & whistles' without much substance. Ideally The A350 is comparable to the B777, and A330 NEO comparable to the B787
Fair points. B777X might compete well with the A350 in the short term. When A350neo rolls around, the B777X might ride into the sunset. Then the metal vrs composite construction will definitely open a gap between the two in terms of their efficiency.
@@mandandi A350NEO won't be coming for at least another 20 years, by then Boeing will most likely be starting work on a cleansheet widebody to replace the 777X
@@ktjmitchell7722 Admittedly, that's been the case so far with the current NEOS. But if an engine becomes available - RR is working on one currently to be available before the end of the decade - and a business case can be built for a stretch to A350-1100 for instance, then I don't see why the same engine cannot fit on the A359 and A350-1000 and make a NEO by the end of this decade. The A350-1100 would better compete with B777X on the high end. RR will be gaining money on a new investment too. Airlines will be happy to invest in a more efficient powerplant. The current NEOS have proved that so far.
@@mandandi Think "Freight Applications After Passenger Service" before running all over the place with your limited scope, lopsided views on "Metal vs Composite" line of thought of "Fly Into The Sunset" for B777's where it's more like "Into The Future" for BOEING 777's. Just wait it out until a composite aircraft has proven itself for Freight Duties, unlike the 777 which has and doing favorably may I add.
@@ktjmitchell7722 A350 is already 10 years from EIS when 777X finally reach EIS. Airbus already broke even with A350, so does RR woth TXWB-84 (TXWB-97 not yet). RR already working on the conceptual UltraFan, while Airbus was reported employed engineers on A350NEO 1 or 2 years ago. Seems they two work close together regarding UltraFan. All hint the otherwise......
I saw a Delta one at STL recently and noticed how large it seemed compared to my Southwest 737-800. I've only flown on 737, so I don't have much experience with other aircraft.
The A350 to me is the best airliner bar none. Boeing used to build some of the finest aircraft but my preference for the A350 is because I think its a better aircraft but also because I trust the Airbus management more than I trust the Boeing management.
THE MANAGEMENT EXXACTLY there are some idiots that still trust boeing and the FAA< i think both should be dismantled and airbus and ICAO should become a monopoly
@@NikanDragosysSerpenDra NO a monopoly to any Aircraft manufacturer is not a wise move. Boeing are and have some of the best engineers and staff in the Industry. I feel very strongly that the Boeing management has yet to prove itself. Putting Safety before Money has to be seen and proven as so, before any trust can be given to that management team. Its so sad, that a company is brought to this, by unseeing stupid greedy management.Everyone one the shop floor of Boeing was stopped from talking out against the management at the cost of their jobs. Plus Boeing ex -management were on the FAA. Talk about conflict of interest. We can all only hope, that the Boeing management have learnt a very hard lesson.
I’ve flown virgin Atlantic’s a350-1000 and their 787, I think I preferred the airbus. Although the galley and toilets were a bit cramped up in the premium cabin.
Doesn’t the Airbus A350 use composite fuselage panel construction rather than barrel sections? Wouldn’t it be much easier and simpler to build a freighter cargo door composite fuselage panel for a freighter version than it would be to design an all-new composite barrel section? This may likely be the reason Boring is proposing a freighter version of the 777-8X and not a 787 freighter. It seems to me that future passenger to freighter conversions of composite fuselage designs would be much more difficult for composite barrel section aircraft like the 787 as well.
Its more comfortable than than the 87. Its also the fastest airbus, being the first airbus to finally reach .85. I bet if they gave another engine option they would've sold more. The fact is, there are lot of airlines out there who wont touch a RR engine. They are loyal GE cust.
I think it has more to do with maintenance training and tooling than loyalty to GE. If they've only operated GE engines before it could be very expensive to switch to RR.
@@OnEEmONErD A lot of airlines have a mix of engines, yet they will give preference to one. It used to be P&W now its GE. The fact is, Airbus kind of forced an engine on to customers, that has never enjoyed #1 position, for a reason. R&Rs are good, but they can't touch the other 2 in any metric. Of course P&Ws are slowly disappearing especially the big ones
Who for example won't touch a Rolls Royce engine? Especially considering it was the preferred engine on the popular Boeing 757 (70% of customers), the only engine on the Lockheed Tristar. I think you will be hard pressed to find a "lot of airlines" that have never operated a Rolls Royce-powered airplane at some point in their history.
@@crazyhorse1771 when airbus first started making planes, they used GE and PW engines. They did that for a reason. There are several countries in asia and latin america that pretty much only uses their engines. You'll have to do the research on which ones exactly. The only airlines that uses rollsses regularly are british airlines and other commonwealth airlines and few other ones.
@@alexanderordinary2110 That's only because Rolls Royce didn't have a suitable engine at the time, and was focused on the Tri-Star. Rolls Royce eventually found its way on the 747 200/300/400, then 757, 767, and 777, and it wasn't until the advent of the Trent was Rolls Royce able to offer a suitable and competitive engine on Airbus wide body types. Rolls Royce did in fact have an engine on the A320 via the IAE2500, a 50/50 joint venture with PW, and the rest is history. You still haven't told me which airline's (or the "lot of arlines") won't touch Rolls Royce engines. You need to come up with some facts and data like I have and not just make general statements.
As a post pandemic development, has Airbus considered a slight enhancement to the A 350 with a hump on the front of the main cabin, like the B 747, thus increasing the Pax numbers and offering first class seats in the upper floor hump, with economy, premium economy and business class seats on the lower main cabin. Plus, this negates the fuel usage of the A 380 with its 4 engines. Suggest this new variant be called the A 350 H.
@@sc1338 The 787 cabin just feels you are in an old 777-200 or even 747 . Don’t get me wrong Boeing was very innovative in making this super plane but A350 flight experience feels superior.
SWISS will adopt a new cabin interior in 2025, the same year as their A350s will come, so the A350 will be delivered with the new cabins already installed.
It's a nice plane to fly on, I prefer it to the 787 - just feels a little bit more spacious. However, I never realized that some airlines are forcing 10 abreast in economy. I think this would make it very uncomfortable. I won't fly on a 777 at 10 abreast, it's terrible. If airlines went to 10 across on the 350, I'd definitely prefer to fly on the 787.
@@sking2173 I didn't know some airlines fly 8 across in the 787. I felt 9macross in 787 was cramped but far less so than 10 across in 777 or what could be in 350.
@@allankamen9875 - ANA and Japan Airlines (JAL) both fly 787’s in the 8-across coach layout. JAL has two variants, the nicer being their “SkyWider” version, which is 2x4x2, almost 19” wide seats, and the pitch is 33”. It’s quite spacious for coach, and transforms that nasty little 787 into a comfortable traveller. As most of my flights are trans-Pacific, and me being a full-sized western male, I’m not about to be squished into narrow seats for 10-14 hours. When I fly on 777’s, it’s 9-across only; I like Emirates’ 380 (but despise their 777’s); I find the 350 to be very comfortable (I’ve never even seen one in 10-across, and don’t want to). Happy flying !!
I have travelled in all variants of Dreamliner 787 and in airbus A350-900 .. To be more precise i would prefer A350 to 787 but i am not telling that Dreamliner is worse but in terms of efficiency A350 has a slight upper hand ..
@@ndlben7129 Sales is not directly correlated to efficiently. MAX9/10 lower fuel burn doesn't stop them from outsold by A321NEO at a ratio of 1:5, as they're nowhere as capable.
@@steinwaldmadchen Your argument about the 737MAX-9 / -10 is not correct because the MAX-9 suffered of a not enough strech fuselage for too many years. The MAX-10 was launched too recently to draw a conclusion when the A321neo has been established for too long ...
@@ndlben7129 A321 is nothing new - it has been in service since 1994. Neither is its performance particular stellar. But Boeing struggled to match that with 737, from -900 to -900ER, to -9. It's only until -10 they finally came close. Still mediocre field performance and payload hamper its potential. Loyal Boeing customers like United and Jet2 are still ordering A321NEOs, while Airbus is still selling the frame at premium. Seems like Boeing is studying how to further improve -10, hope them the best. On the other hand, at least 600 of A321NEO is sold as XLR, and hundreds to carries get used to container load. While both aren't that difficult, neither is possible with 737.
@@steinwaldmadchen The problem with the 737 is ground clearance. Nothing to do with performance. He was handicapped by his short landing gear now solved. The 737MAX remains by far the most difficult aircraft to defend, while the MCAS problem has made matters worse. It is interesting to see what Boeing will do with it around 2030 ...
I can't see it happening until the pandemic is well behind us, but a A350 1100 to compete with the 777X-9 would make a lot of sense to allow Airbus to cover the full range of capacity.
@@ndlben7129 If Airbus took the 787-10 approach for A350-1100, current 319t MTOW and TXWB-97 could make it, according to their internal study. But given the market is saturated at the moment, and the program is already broken even, why bother? For now they'd take advantage of 777F discontinuation and break into freighter market. -1100 would be far more competitive with UltraFan, so better wait and see.
@@steinwaldmadchen the RR UltraFan are better in fuel consumption to such an extent that if the A350-1100 would be launched the A350-900neo would be too. Strategically Airbus would lose the 300 seat market because the UltraFan would be so good that it would make the A350-900 ULR by increasing the design range significantly. The market does not want the ULR. It will be up to Airbus to decide which sacrifice to make between the two variants...
@@ndlben7129 Smaller variants become less popular has nothing to do with engine efficiency or range. No one stops you from flying 787 domestic, which Japanese do. The real issue is, nowadays efficiency is achieved by enlarging the engines and wings, both add weights. And this disproportionately affects the smaller variants more. Back to A350NEO, they'd be relatively less prone to these weight gain. Rolls Royce engines are usually lighter with three-spool design, while being late in composite means they still have room for weight shaving. A350 is only slightly heavier than 787, offset by its slightly larger wings, so efficiency wise it should be fine, thought depends on actual design. The bigger issue however is 787NG would gain capabilities and compete more extensively with A350NEO. It's understandable why Airbus wants to take the first move, maybe with exclusive deals behind the scene. They managed to secure as many A320NEO order as MAX8 by earlier launch, despite the latter is slightly better in terms of performance.
I have yet to fly in an Airbus A.350 but I feel its a winner for Airbus and recently there has now been a Freighter version on offer that has had a good response with a reasonable amount of Orders, The possible reintroduction of the smaller 800 Model that was not built is interesting, but on the other side of the coin there does appear to be bad publicity for the Model from Qatar Airways complaining about Surface Deterioration on some of its older A 350s this sadly has now gone to Legal Litigation which I do not like. I am sure Airbus offered a solution that has not been accepted and taken up . Middle East Airlines will always have problems of Paint Finishes being Sun Beaten due to the extreme heat in those Countries so Aircraft must surely be Re Painted every 3/4 Years ? I sincerely trust that this matter gets cleared up quickly as the Airline in Question is a good customer to Both Airbus & Boeing and I do believe they have fallen out with both major suppliers, so I ask myself where are they going to go in the future to buy New Aircraft?
Qatar Airways, claimed lots of things, I feel was just an outright con to gain lost Covid money. Airbus had said it would do any repairs but that wasn't enough for Qatar.If Boeing gains by this, then good luck with that. EASA has come out against Qatar, saying they could find nothing wrong with the A350 certification and recertified it.
Having read your comments on Aircraft Enthusiasts, may I ask you a question ? do you think Airbus will offer a larger version of the A.350 to rival Boeing and its 777 X ? We are told that the current Engines have sufficient power, and there are sufficient overwing exits, so a small Wing Extention is a maybe to get it right. Personally, I am sure it will happen as Airbus is a very Go Ahead organization, and while others dither, they roll up their sleeves and get on with it. There is also that New ' UltraFan Engine that Rolls Royce are building for the future and a New A.350 would be a very good Aircraft to fit it for even better economy.
Thats a good question. the 777x trouble is, the need to fill it entirely to make it viable financially. Airlines, with the available aircraft in the market, might think twice. Such a huge outlay requires certainty in passengers available to travel at one time. Airbus would be better off, making the A350-900/1000 NEO's. Probably with the new RR Ultra engine.
flew business class on this aircraft many times already and, I must say, flying business class onboard the A350 is one of the best flying experiences I’ve ever had, probably rivaling even the business class on an A380.
Nice story! Btw I’ve been in first long haul flight with the A350 from Manila to New York back in June 25 of this year. I was at the economy class seating and yeah, the experience was superb.
As an economy class peasant I cannot relate
I imagine all business class seats to be superb, especially since I've only flown economy lol. I'm sure people who fly business class constantly have their complaints/opinions on which carrier has the best.
The A350, bringing the passenger comfort of the A380 to a smaller package, such a brilliant airplane that is.
Airbus made a big mistake when they cancel A350-800. They should have modified it and launched it as regional aircraft.
@@nntflow7058 Still can it would replace a330 .
@@williamdodds1394 maybe not… because Airbus is still pushing forward with the A330neo.
The A350 is such a beautiful Airbus widebody aircraft in the sky
No one can beat the b777, no offense.
@@abdulwasey3506 If it is 777-300ER
@@abdulwasey3506 As long airlines maintain 9 abreast, unfortunately most 777 operators milked their cash cow by installing 10 abreast seats. Boeing management already given green light to 11 abreast seats which is an abomination!
@@Chris58851 COVID 19 gave a big hit to the industry, I wouldn't be surprised if they went 12 also.
@@abdulwasey3506 Let's face it, 777 burns significantly more per trip than similar sized A350. 777X failed to close the gap.
There's a reason why Boeing chose not to head-on, despite they know VLA is not the future.
I like the A350. I'm excited to fly on it for the first time with Singapore Airlines in a few months time!
you won't be disappointed
@@LCFC_Chris yes sir
Flew Singapore to Brisbane. It was so quiet, you could even hear the movie with the shitty earbuds they give you in cattle class. Was hella impressed with the A350. The only downside was Typhoid Ginger sitting in the same row coughing and having the nerve to tell a baby to shut up.
@@bengaltiger96 I was also about to go to Brisbane, but the flight got cancelled lol
I hope the replacement flight is also on an A350
So the original A350 concept (before the clean sheet makeover) has essentially now re-emerged as the A330NEO!
Yes, there are some concepts around. It would’ve basically looked like an A330 with bigger engines, it still had the old A330 winglets though
Well at least it wasn't MAX like!
@@johnchristmas7522what?
She's my favourite modern aircraft, she's absolutely beautiful to look at..... so graceful.
same
Assigning gender to an aircraft is strange
@@BlueArmeh88you’re going to be in for a absolute shock when you find out that languages like French, Spanish, German etc. assign genders to all nouns lmao
the A350 is such a quiet aircraft. Flying economy MEL - BKK for about 10 hours or so it was a absolute champ in how quiet it was compared to what Thai airways used to fly on the route (I think it was a 777-200?), even when I was sitting window a couple rows from the engine.
love the sound... If i can turn it down, but when at FL330 STILL LOUD! especially with all the cargo thai has onboard the engines are high performance and thus LOUD, love the sound but atleast in a sim you can turn it down.
I choose A350 over 787. The spacious interior really makes it feel much more comfortable.
Yup it is more comfortable, but it's also worth noting the 787 is in a completely diff category compared to A350. 787 made A330 irrelevant while A350 will decimate 777-200ER and LR
@@jonny1013 Overall you are right. But the subtlety is that the 787-9 which sells very well and which outsells the A350-900, slightly replaces the 777-200ER downwards as the A350-900 does upwards. 777-200ER 63 meters long carries 32LD3. The 787-9 62 meters long carries 36 LD3 containers (X4 more than the 772) and the 66-67 meters long A350-900 carries 36 LD3 containers (like the 787-9). This means that the 787's box and wings are much smaller than those of the two aircraft. The 787 is a leading animal that covers a GAP lower than the 777 and A350 but covering the core of the market with the 787-9. The whole 787 family had a sales record with 1,500 aircraft sold in +15 years
@@jonny1013 Yeah, but I'm looking forward to try A330neo and compare it to 787
Its the perfect choice for any type of flight
@@jonny1013 The 787-10 does compete with the A350 and recently there are upcoming HGW variants for the 787-9 and 787-10 which match the A350-900 range
been on 2 a350s, one of the best aircraft I've ever flown on
Such a gorgeous plane. Can't wait to fly on one
What a gorgeous plane the A350 🤩🤩🤩
A350 and A380 were the most comfortable flight experiences I’ve ever had, with Boeings Dreamliner coming a close second.
I also wanna give the 747 a mention. Although it wasn’t anything special comfort wise, flying with the Queen of the skies is a special experience.
A380 was probably the worst flight experience I have ever had. The cabin is so quiet from the engines that all you hear is angry mother's screaming at their kids in for 10 hours with 500 people
I prefer to fly on the 787 and 777 because they’re more an avgeeks treat, but having flown the A350 twice, the European trumps both of them in terms quietness and comfort in turbulence. The cabin is spacious and functional too, a great way to travel.
From a pilots perspective i heard its a dream to fly... very intuitive modern aircraft
It’s fantastic. I used to fly the A320. As I went through the course, my partner and I were almost continually amazed by how clever the design was and how they’d sorted many things that were a pain in the A320.
Only boarded an A350 with Qatar Airways once in 2018, still cannot forgot how good it was
Additional comments: Board an A350 with Thai Airways recently, still as good
I was waiting for such a video on the A350 for a long time. Thank you so much Long Haul by Simple Flying.
A350 is my favourite aircraft 💖💕
Absolutely love the A350!
I think the A350 is a beautiful bird
Such a beautiful aircraft. The innovation is beautiful in its own way as well.
I think the A350 has neither battery fires nor vacuum cleaners inside its fuel tanks, which makes it better than the competition.
Airbus has announced a freighter in July. Should sell well as Boeing is having enough problems getting the 777X passenger version out a freighter is likely to be later.
I think the video was recorded before the announcement
@@MarcusNesbitt4 The announcement was in July so this video is at least that old. As announcements go it is pretty important.
There have been many reliability problems with the B787 so I prefer the A350.
This is my most favorite of any airplane prototype. The wing design is so beautiful ❤️
Flew on the delta a350-900 and it was awesome
I flew a Finnair A350 from Helsinki to London, great and beautiful Plane
Flew A350 for two years and it truly a dream come true aircraft. Based on personal research I believe it has slight advantage when Compared to 787.
It's a really handsome plane - the nose looks very much like the original DeHavilland Comet - and I really like the black 'bandit mask' around the cockpit windows.
actually raccoon
the best airliner in the world at the moment
flying 777 and A350 back to back, Boeing must be hoping like hell that purchasers concentrate on sheer capacity and not the quality of the flight offered. The 777 felt very much like flying last decades technology.
"Puerto Real and Getafe". Nicely done!
I don't have any experience flying on any of the newer planes, those two especially. But I gotta say, while the 787 is beautiful in every single way (in the wings especially), the A350 became my favorite plane of the duo of clean sheet planes. It suits me since I'm kind of a nerd with all love for technology, and Airbus is the one that brings innovation every time it launches something.
Yup, the flying raccoon is the one that does it for me, even though the 787 is the most beautiful jet ever created... For now. And the cargo version? We'll see what can be the best idea to cut the threads of the carbon fiber for cargo doors.
Truly the future of aviation
Cool,clean,fantastic
A350 is the best aircraft at the moment such a beauty
Just flew on it from Seoul to Atlanta, it was the best flight I’ve ever been on!
Love a350, flew it with lufthuansa and its just an amazing experience. I personally prefer it tp classical 777-300er and 787...
The A350 is a masterpiece, probably the best airliner since the Lockheed Tri Star. The 787 is a lemon.
the most beautiful twin aisle commercial aircraft flying today, and the most technologically advanced...
But will the design allow for a further growth without sacrificing on efficiency?
Relatively speaking, A350 is not as radical as 787. But that also means technologies are proven and better understood, contributes to its higher reliability.
False.
The 787 is better because the engines are bleedless.
The 787 is more Electric
The CFRP fuselage is an
one piece design
The A350 CFRP fuselage is a traditional 4 panels
@@steinwaldmadchen please stop lying !
Your sources
A350 is mostly to compete with 777, not 787
777X TO BE EXACT! 😁😁😁😁😁
@@lamjerrey6352 Not really, the A350 went into service quite a while before the 777X is scheduled to, so if anything the 777X is made more to compete with the A350, not the other way around
Such a great aircraft.
I’ve wanted to fly on one of these since its debut.
You really should mate if you get the chance. I've travelled multiple times on the A350 with Qatar Airways and the experience has always been great!
A350 is the best!
Bruh wtf i just started watching your videos a few hours ago and i legit searched right for the an A350 video right now then Boom... you just uploaded about it 27 minutes ago
The A350 is the most beautiful plane in the skies.
The A350 freighter was officially launched beginning of August 2021, 3 weeks ago!
Yup i was thinking the same.
Such a beautiful bird on the sky I have never seen !! Go A350 to the top ✌️✌️👏👏
787 is better imo. So beautiful
will be interesting to see how the freighter does
The A350 is placed between the 787 and 777. Airbus and Boeing try to optimise for slightly different capacities to have some part of the segement for themselves.
The A350 has a more spacious interior but the 787 is just a marvel of engineering and one of the most beautiful aircraft ever constructed. The 787 also feels incredibly smooth so I’d say they’re neck in neck, although for me the 787 edges out.
I absolutely LOVE the A380 though. Sad to see the demand for this model’s died out.
truely the new queen of the skies
I always prefer A350 over B787. A350 is such a modern and spacious aircraft. I feel very safe to fly with A350 more than any other aircraft type. Very lucky to see most of the Asia based airlines are chosen A350 to serve long haul routes. In Long Haul market it's always A350 and Boeing 777 battling against each other.
Asian carriers carry more passengers and cargo than their Western peers, while flying further.
A350 has higher payload-range, at the cost of ~2% efficiency disadvantge over similar sized 787 for shorter routes. So it'd be cheaper for TATL carriers to fly 787, and more profitable for TPAC carriers to fly A350.
@@steinwaldmadchen Thanks for your information. by the way A350 interior is much nice and quiet. When comparing with A330 it's a huge difference. but with the Boing 787, there isn't a huge gap, but there's some noticeable difference. A350 is much nicer. Didn't have a chance to fly on A380. I hope it will be great. I will have a chance to fly on A380 thanks to Emirates huge A380 fleet :D
WTF at 4:15 you placed Nantes right in the middle of France ! it's just few kilometers appart from St Nazaire !
Indeed.
300,000 people live in Nantes. Who cares.
Qantas made the perfect decision for the project sunrise. Thx to Airbus for this modern technology plane!
Thank you very much for this - again - very informative video story! :-) The 350 F is meanwhile fixed by Airbus and should come into production in 2025.
Maybe Earlier ?
@@MyJerseybean I don´t know it. This was at least the annotation by Airbus.
See the differences in the issues between the 787 and the A350. Much less drama with steady progress. This is what a real engineering company should be. None of that flashy stock buybacks and production drama that seems to come hand in hand at boeing. Long term outlook for airbus is also much higher vs boeing struggling on almost all lines of their aircraft.
To be fair, some of the technologies are already ironed out in A380, so it's mature on A350. And 787 is more radical in some ways.
But is Boeing fooling themselves twice? 777X doesn’t look very good to me......
the new A350 freighter has been announced officially late July. For a 2025 launch...
I have been on the 777 and 787 and look forward to flying on an A350
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Hi Alejandro! We thank you for your feedback! 😊✈️ - LR
Whilst the B777X is not of composite construction, and is yet to enter commercial use Boeing has released some figures which don't compare favourably with the A350, unit cost being the most obvious. However as it has yet to enter service, commentary would be premature. But that is not the case with the B787. Having flown business class long haul in both the B787 & A350 on the same trip, as an indication of the experience, I now look for trip itineraries that use exclusively A350 or even A330 as a preference. My instant reaction to boarding a B787 for the first time was 'has the airline done an equipment change, it's a B767' but then I saw the big windows.! The A350 experience is sleek, clean, comfortable, quiet, sure quality, whereas the B787 feels a bit flimsy, 'bells & whistles' without much substance.
Ideally The A350 is comparable to the B777, and A330 NEO comparable to the B787
Fair points. B777X might compete well with the A350 in the short term. When A350neo rolls around, the B777X might ride into the sunset. Then the metal vrs composite construction will definitely open a gap between the two in terms of their efficiency.
@@mandandi A350NEO won't be coming for at least another 20 years, by then Boeing will most likely be starting work on a cleansheet widebody to replace the 777X
@@ktjmitchell7722 Admittedly, that's been the case so far with the current NEOS. But if an engine becomes available - RR is working on one currently to be available before the end of the decade - and a business case can be built for a stretch to A350-1100 for instance, then I don't see why the same engine cannot fit on the A359 and A350-1000 and make a NEO by the end of this decade.
The A350-1100 would better compete with B777X on the high end. RR will be gaining money on a new investment too. Airlines will be happy to invest in a more efficient powerplant. The current NEOS have proved that so far.
@@mandandi Think "Freight Applications After Passenger Service" before running all over the place with your limited scope, lopsided views on "Metal vs Composite" line of thought of "Fly Into The Sunset" for B777's where it's more like "Into The Future" for BOEING 777's. Just wait it out until a composite aircraft has proven itself for Freight Duties, unlike the 777 which has and doing favorably may I add.
@@ktjmitchell7722 A350 is already 10 years from EIS when 777X finally reach EIS. Airbus already broke even with A350, so does RR woth TXWB-84 (TXWB-97 not yet). RR already working on the conceptual UltraFan, while Airbus was reported employed engineers on A350NEO 1 or 2 years ago. Seems they two work close together regarding UltraFan.
All hint the otherwise......
I’m a commercial pilot… why do I enjoy these videos so much? 😂😂
Airbus A350 XWB is the BEST ever built
I saw a Delta one at STL recently and noticed how large it seemed compared to my Southwest 737-800. I've only flown on 737, so I don't have much experience with other aircraft.
737 is baby compare to these machines. If you want to experince these planes, you need 5 plus hours distance since they are used for long distances.
Nice video, but your little yellow star indicating the location of Nantes is pretty far off. It's actually just 50km east of Saint-Nazaire.
Thank You. Again.
The A350 is a very good aircraft. Never been on one but would love to try it.
The A350 to me is the best airliner bar none. Boeing used to build some of the finest aircraft but my preference for the A350 is because I think its a better aircraft but also because I trust the Airbus management more than I trust the Boeing management.
THE MANAGEMENT EXXACTLY there are some idiots that still trust boeing and the FAA< i think both should be dismantled and airbus and ICAO should become a monopoly
@@NikanDragosysSerpenDra NO a monopoly to any Aircraft manufacturer is not a wise move. Boeing are and have some of the best engineers and staff in the Industry. I feel very strongly that the Boeing management has yet to prove itself. Putting Safety before Money has to be seen and proven as so, before any trust can be given to that management team. Its so sad, that a company is brought to this, by unseeing stupid greedy management.Everyone one the shop floor of Boeing was stopped from talking out against the management at the cost of their jobs. Plus Boeing ex -management were on the FAA. Talk about conflict of interest. We can all only hope, that the Boeing management have learnt a very hard lesson.
@@johnchristmas7522 there are enough other company who can step in and do it better as an aircraft company against airbus
@@NikanDragosysSerpenDra Really? who?
I’ve flown virgin Atlantic’s a350-1000 and their 787, I think I preferred the airbus. Although the galley and toilets were a bit cramped up in the premium cabin.
Generally speaking, i love the looks of Boeing planes but I have higher trust in Airbus' safety record. Flying on one just gives me peace of mind.
Doesn’t the Airbus A350 use composite fuselage panel construction rather than barrel sections? Wouldn’t it be much easier and simpler to build a freighter cargo door composite fuselage panel for a freighter version than it would be to design an all-new composite barrel section? This may likely be the reason Boring is proposing a freighter version of the 777-8X and not a 787 freighter.
It seems to me that future passenger to freighter conversions of composite fuselage designs would be much more difficult for composite barrel section aircraft like the 787 as well.
Competition must go on..... Boeing vs Airbus
Its more comfortable than than the 87. Its also the fastest airbus, being the first airbus to finally reach .85. I bet if they gave another engine option they would've sold more. The fact is, there are lot of airlines out there who wont touch a RR engine. They are loyal GE cust.
I think it has more to do with maintenance training and tooling than loyalty to GE. If they've only operated GE engines before it could be very expensive to switch to RR.
@@OnEEmONErD A lot of airlines have a mix of engines, yet they will give preference to one. It used to be P&W now its GE. The fact is, Airbus kind of forced an engine on to customers, that has never enjoyed #1 position, for a reason. R&Rs are good, but they can't touch the other 2 in any metric. Of course P&Ws are slowly disappearing especially the big ones
Who for example won't touch a Rolls Royce engine? Especially considering it was the preferred engine on the popular Boeing 757 (70% of customers), the only engine on the Lockheed Tristar. I think you will be hard pressed to find a "lot of airlines" that have never operated a Rolls Royce-powered airplane at some point in their history.
@@crazyhorse1771 when airbus first started making planes, they used GE and PW engines. They did that for a reason. There are several countries in asia and latin america that pretty much only uses their engines. You'll have to do the research on which ones exactly. The only airlines that uses rollsses regularly are british airlines and other commonwealth airlines and few other ones.
@@alexanderordinary2110 That's only because Rolls Royce didn't have a suitable engine at the time, and was focused on the Tri-Star. Rolls Royce eventually found its way on the 747 200/300/400, then 757, 767, and 777, and it wasn't until the advent of the Trent was Rolls Royce able to offer a suitable and competitive engine on Airbus wide body types. Rolls Royce did in fact have an engine on the A320 via the IAE2500, a 50/50 joint venture with PW, and the rest is history. You still haven't told me which airline's (or the "lot of arlines") won't touch Rolls Royce engines. You need to come up with some facts and data like I have and not just make general statements.
With the shenanigans going on a Boeing at the moment, I'd take any Airbus plane if for nothing other than peace of mind.
As a post pandemic development, has Airbus considered a slight enhancement to the A 350 with a hump on the front of the main cabin, like the B 747, thus increasing the Pax numbers and offering first class seats in the upper floor hump, with economy, premium economy and business class seats on the lower main cabin. Plus, this negates the fuel usage of the A 380 with its 4 engines. Suggest this new variant be called the A 350 H.
it would more likely as a stretch of the fuselage, since the hump is mainly for allowing nose cargo door for outsized cargo as 747 did
A350 F Confirmed
Singapore 🇸🇬 Airlines is the Largest Operator of the Airbus A350XWB-900 and 8 Airbus A350XWB-900ULR (Ultra long Range) types.
Flown Q-suite (Qatar Business) and Economy on the A350… my god is a comfortable plane
A350 is much better an aircraft than the Boeing 787. 🤩
@@alunesh12345 yeah even Jesus would choose the A 350 over a 787
My favourite plane ❤
I have flown both A350 & 787. I found A350 much much better
In what way? the 787 is older
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The 787 cabin just feels you are in an old 777-200 or even 747 . Don’t get me wrong Boeing was very innovative in making this super plane but A350 flight experience feels superior.
@@ricky1231 ikr
Ill get excited when we start seeing a move away from Tube liners
The new Spitfire.
spitfire is a fighter plane, which should be analouged to military fighter jet like f35 rather than civilian transport like a350
Boeing for the airline, Airbus for the passenger
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Did Simpleflying's voice cracked up when he said too?
A bit
Can one of you explain the Boeing numbering scheme to me please. How is the 747-8 larger than a 787 but smaller than a 777
Nice to see that market is functioning and new models are in development. But Boeings massmurder plane 737 should be rebrandet.
I like this channel
SWISS will adopt a new cabin interior in 2025, the same year as their A350s will come, so the A350 will be delivered with the new cabins already installed.
Surprisingly the a350 is quieter than the 747-8 787 and 777
It's a nice plane to fly on, I prefer it to the 787 - just feels a little bit more spacious.
However, I never realized that some airlines are forcing 10 abreast in economy. I think this would make it very uncomfortable. I won't fly on a 777 at 10 abreast, it's terrible.
If airlines went to 10 across on the 350, I'd definitely prefer to fly on the 787.
The only 787 that I will fly is that of Japan Airlines, with the eight-across seating. The nine-across 787 is a very uncomfortable.
@@sking2173 I didn't know some airlines fly 8 across in the 787. I felt 9macross in 787 was cramped but far less so than 10 across in 777 or what could be in 350.
@@allankamen9875 - ANA and Japan Airlines (JAL) both fly 787’s in the 8-across coach layout. JAL has two variants, the nicer being their “SkyWider” version, which is 2x4x2, almost 19” wide seats, and the pitch is 33”. It’s quite spacious for coach, and transforms that nasty little 787 into a comfortable traveller.
As most of my flights are trans-Pacific, and me being a full-sized western male, I’m not about to be squished into narrow seats for 10-14 hours. When I fly on 777’s, it’s 9-across only; I like Emirates’ 380 (but despise their 777’s); I find the 350 to be very comfortable (I’ve never even seen one in 10-across, and don’t want to).
Happy flying !!
@@sking2173 ANA retrofitted to 9-abreast 787 and 10-abreast 777 later on.
@@steinwaldmadchen - Thanks! I didn’t know that. I haven’t flown ANA in a long time, and apparently I won’t be flying on them anymore ...
Flown it many times and it’s absolutely amazing. Like the A380 actually. Soooo much better than Boeing if you ask me, except for the 747.
I have travelled in all variants of Dreamliner 787 and in airbus A350-900 .. To be more precise i would prefer A350 to 787 but i am not telling that Dreamliner is worse but in terms of efficiency A350 has a slight upper hand ..
how can you assert things through the economy? The 787 is outsell the A350.
@@ndlben7129 Sales is not directly correlated to efficiently. MAX9/10 lower fuel burn doesn't stop them from outsold by A321NEO at a ratio of 1:5, as they're nowhere as capable.
@@steinwaldmadchen
Your argument about the 737MAX-9 / -10 is not correct because the MAX-9 suffered of a not enough strech fuselage for too many years.
The MAX-10 was launched too recently to draw a conclusion when the A321neo has been established for too long ...
@@ndlben7129 A321 is nothing new - it has been in service since 1994. Neither is its performance particular stellar. But Boeing struggled to match that with 737, from -900 to -900ER, to -9. It's only until -10 they finally came close. Still mediocre field performance and payload hamper its potential. Loyal Boeing customers like United and Jet2 are still ordering A321NEOs, while Airbus is still selling the frame at premium. Seems like Boeing is studying how to further improve -10, hope them the best.
On the other hand, at least 600 of A321NEO is sold as XLR, and hundreds to carries get used to container load. While both aren't that difficult, neither is possible with 737.
@@steinwaldmadchen
The problem with the 737 is ground clearance. Nothing to do with performance. He was handicapped by his short landing gear now solved. The 737MAX remains by far the most difficult aircraft to defend, while the MCAS problem has made matters worse. It is interesting to see what Boeing will do with it around 2030 ...
I can't see it happening until the pandemic is well behind us, but a A350 1100 to compete with the 777X-9 would make a lot of sense to allow Airbus to cover the full range of capacity.
Good Luck for that
With what engine ?
@@ndlben7129 I'm guessing one that doesn't exist yet. I would expect it would need a new wing too.
@@ndlben7129 If Airbus took the 787-10 approach for A350-1100, current 319t MTOW and TXWB-97 could make it, according to their internal study.
But given the market is saturated at the moment, and the program is already broken even, why bother? For now they'd take advantage of 777F discontinuation and break into freighter market. -1100 would be far more competitive with UltraFan, so better wait and see.
@@steinwaldmadchen
the RR UltraFan are better in fuel consumption to such an extent that if the A350-1100 would be launched the A350-900neo would be too. Strategically Airbus would lose the 300 seat market because the UltraFan would be so good that it would make the A350-900 ULR by increasing the design range significantly. The market does not want the ULR.
It will be up to Airbus to decide which sacrifice to make between the two variants...
@@ndlben7129 Smaller variants become less popular has nothing to do with engine efficiency or range. No one stops you from flying 787 domestic, which Japanese do.
The real issue is, nowadays efficiency is achieved by enlarging the engines and wings, both add weights. And this disproportionately affects the smaller variants more.
Back to A350NEO, they'd be relatively less prone to these weight gain. Rolls Royce engines are usually lighter with three-spool design, while being late in composite means they still have room for weight shaving. A350 is only slightly heavier than 787, offset by its slightly larger wings, so efficiency wise it should be fine, thought depends on actual design.
The bigger issue however is 787NG would gain capabilities and compete more extensively with A350NEO. It's understandable why Airbus wants to take the first move, maybe with exclusive deals behind the scene. They managed to secure as many A320NEO order as MAX8 by earlier launch, despite the latter is slightly better in terms of performance.
Is Boeing building a freighter version of the 787?
I think there’s nothing planned right now, but they already have the 767F, 777F and maybe 777-8F which already cover the capacity of the 787
Soon in the future: 'Space'bus A-wing Starfighter and Boeing B-wing Starfighter
I prefer the 787 maybe not appropriate underneath this video, but still
What is the A330neo competing with?
Capacity wise it’s set to compete with the 787 as it’s also a cheaper alternative
Its not competing with none. Just a rip off for the A350-800.Thats why they scrapped the plan for the -800
The most beautiful aircraft ever. period ",)
I have yet to fly in an Airbus A.350 but I feel its a winner for Airbus and recently there has now been a Freighter version on offer that has had a good response with a reasonable amount of Orders,
The possible reintroduction of the smaller 800 Model that was not built is interesting, but on the other side of the coin there does appear to be bad publicity for the Model from Qatar Airways complaining about Surface Deterioration on some of its older A 350s this sadly has now gone to Legal Litigation which I do not like.
I am sure Airbus offered a solution that has not been accepted and taken up . Middle East Airlines will always have problems of Paint Finishes being Sun Beaten due to the extreme heat in those Countries so Aircraft must surely be Re Painted every 3/4 Years ?
I sincerely trust that this matter gets cleared up quickly as the Airline in Question is a good customer to Both Airbus & Boeing and I do believe they have fallen out with both major suppliers, so I ask myself where are they going to go in the future to buy New Aircraft?
Qatar Airways, claimed lots of things, I feel was just an outright con to gain lost Covid money. Airbus had said it would do any repairs but that wasn't enough for Qatar.If Boeing gains by this, then good luck with that. EASA has come out against Qatar, saying they could find nothing wrong with the A350 certification and recertified it.
Having read your comments on Aircraft Enthusiasts, may I ask you a question ? do you think Airbus will offer a larger version of the A.350 to rival Boeing and its 777 X ? We are told that the current Engines have sufficient power, and there are sufficient overwing exits, so a small Wing Extention is a maybe to get it right. Personally, I am sure it will happen as Airbus is a very Go Ahead organization, and while others dither, they roll up their sleeves and get on with it. There is also that New ' UltraFan Engine that Rolls Royce are building for the future and a New A.350 would be a very good Aircraft to fit it for even better economy.
Probably not. High capacity aircraft aren't in demand at the moment. Just look at the -1000 and the 777X sales
Thats a good question. the 777x trouble is, the need to fill it entirely to make it viable financially. Airlines, with the available aircraft in the market, might think twice. Such a huge outlay requires certainty in passengers available to travel at one time. Airbus would be better off, making the A350-900/1000 NEO's. Probably with the new RR Ultra engine.
That clip of someone with his arm in the gap while a component is lowered is a WH&S nightmare. 🙄