Caro-Kann Theoretical Novelty by STOCKFISH 15 -Lc0 vs Stockfish 15 - Caro-Kann Defense, Panov Attack

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    Hello chess friends and welcome to a new opening series, welcome to our studies of the 150 attack. With this attack you can destroy the Pirc or Modern defense easily.The setup f2-f3, Be3 and Qd2 is commonly used against the King's Indian Defence and Dragon Sicilian, and can also be used against the Pirc; indeed, this system is as old as the Pirc itself.
    The system 4.f3 was introduced by Argentine players c. 1930 and again in 1950. It was never considered dangerous for Black because of 4.f3 Bg7 5.Be3 c6 6.Qd2 b5. It received a severe blow in about 1985, when Gennady Zaichik showed that Black could castle anyway and play a dangerous gambit with 5...0-0 6.Qd2 e5.
    The Argentines feared the sally ...Ng4, though some British players (especially Mark Hebden, Paul Motwani, Gary Lane, later also Michael Adams) came to realise that this was mainly dangerous for Black, therefore playing Be3 and Qd2 in all sorts of move orders, whilst omitting f2-f3. They called this the 150 Attack, because players of this strength (ELO 1800) can easily play this position and get strong play without any theory.[10]
    The original Argentine idea probably is only viable after 4.Be3 Bg7 5.Qd2 0-0 6.0-0-0 c6 (or Nc6) 7.f3 b5 8.h4. Black usually does not castle though and prefers 5...c6 or even 4...c6. The question of whether and when to insert Nf3 remains unclear.
    PGN:
    [Event "CCRL 40/15"]
    [Site "CCRL"]
    [Date "2022.04.30"]
    [Round "822.4.405"]
    [White "Lc0 0.28.0 w744204 64-bit 4CPU"]
    [Black "Stockfish 15 64-bit 4CPU"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [WhiteElo "3377"]
    [BlackElo "3541"]
    [Variant "Standard"]
    [TimeControl "-"]
    [ECO "B14"]
    [Opening "Caro-Kann Defense: Panov Attack, Main Line"]
    [Termination "Unknown"]
    [Annotator "lichess.org"]
    1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 cxd5 4. c4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. Nf3 Bb4 7. cxd5 Nxd5 8. Bd2 O-O 9. Bd3 Bd7 10. O-O Bc6 11. Ne5 Be7 12. Qg4 Nf6 13. Qh4 Nbd7 14. Nxc6 bxc6 15. Rfd1 Re8 16. Rac1 Nf8 17. Qf4 Rb8 18. Na4 Ng6 19. Qe3 Nd5 20. Qf3 Bf6 21. Rc4 Nh4 22. Qg3 Rc8 23. Nc5 Nf5 24. Bxf5 exf5 25. Nb7 Qd7 26. Nd6 Bh4 27. Qxh4 Qxd6 28. Qg3 Qf6 29. h3 h6 30. Rdc1 Re2 31. Qd3 Re6 32. Rc5 Rd8 33. a3 Ne7 34. Bc3 Re4 35. Qc2 Nd5 36. Bd2 Ne7 37. Bc3 Nd5 38. Bd2 Qh4 39. Re1 Rxe1+ 40. Bxe1 Re8 41. Ba5 Qg5 42. Bd2 Nf4 43. g3 Nxh3+ 44. Kg2 Qg4 45. Qxf5 Nxf2 46. Qxg4 Nxg4 47. Kf3 Nh2+ 48. Kf2 Ng4+ 49. Kf3 Nh2+ 50. Kf2 Re6 51. Ra5 Ng4+ 52. Kf3 Nh2+ 53. Kf2 Ng4+ 54. Kf3 Nf6 55. a4 g5 56. Rxa7 g4+ 57. Kf4 h5 58. Bc3 Nd5+ 59. Kg5 Re3 60. a5 Kg7 61. Kxh5 Rxg3 62. a6 Rg1 63. Ra8 Kf6 64. a7 Nf4+ 65. Kh4 Kf5 66. Rg8 Ng6+ 67. Rxg6 fxg6 68. Bd2 g5+ 69. Bxg5 Ra1 70. Bd2 Rxa7 71. Kg3 { Black wins. } 0-1

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  • @bojanboskovic6744
    @bojanboskovic6744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    B13 Caro-Kann / Panov Attack / Cosmical Identity of Solid Gold Chess. Open range game, my friend!

  • @ottolehikoinen6193
    @ottolehikoinen6193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Theoretical novelties are so plenty from this Stockfish-player, that we might need to name some variations by fishes. Is this a sturgeon variation or maybe a pike variation?

  • @shantoreywilkins651
    @shantoreywilkins651 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #1st
    🌝🌞☀️🌞🔝🌞☀️
    #chess

  • @MrMegatherium
    @MrMegatherium 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just love the games by Stockfish with the black pieces, Alpha-zero played some incredible games with black also.

  • @blijebij
    @blijebij 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is very clear that AI and in this case Stockfish will show novelties to existing openings in general. For chesslovers this is ofcourse unique and awsome. I think the modern top Gms have learned so much from Stockfish about possitions and structures on the board! Love your analysing and explanations, really awsome!
    My only fear is, after ai has shown all novelties for the chess openings, will openings for top gms not become very predictable as they all will copy Ai and the best moves for any opening? time will tell.

  • @philcolbert7864
    @philcolbert7864 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me I don't want to see a detailed analysis of every move.

  • @knuckleheadfitness1127
    @knuckleheadfitness1127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Move 64... a7 makes no sense, the evaluation goes from -1 to -4.5, how did Leela miss evaluate the position so badly? I believe the people who put these games on are just giving wins to stockfish to get people to jump on the stockfish band wagon. Im really considering unsubscribing to your channel because these games seem rigged. Time after time, I analyze these games myself and it just seems like in drawish positions the engine that is not stockfish throws a draw. It is like Leela and other engines have been setup to not draw, even at the cost of losing but what gets me if Leela would rather lose then draw, why would she play so solidly in beginning? If she would have taken chances sooner, play more aggressively sooner understanding that if she gets to a drawn endgame that she would (setup to push for a win even at the cost of losing aka:gamble)make a mistake cus she would rather lose then draw. Why not play aggressively earlier on in the game. It makes no sense to setup a engine to not play aggressively but yet she is setup to not want to draw? Why not set her up with wanting draws and play solidly rather then play solidly and not want draws those characteristics need to mirror each other. if you don't want to draw then play aggressively if you want to draw play solidly. The way the organizers and creators of Leela have her setup is confusing. This game was 0.000 all the way through and stockfish began to get a advantage around move 55. but still was drawable. But then at move 64 she played that a7 move, witch even a human can see that is a mistake(big mistake). And if these games are 1 hour for each player plus bonus time at move 40 I can't imagine Leela being low on time at move 64. I believe these games are rigged. I've been following you and these games for a long time and it is SUS. It is not genuine chess and seems like the organizers care more about money then actually the game itself.

    • @Jozarovschesschannel
      @Jozarovschesschannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MAN, what to say about your comment. I Am speechless.(actually i Am not speechless, but IT doesn’t make sense to start an argument). Its a free world,do what you want with your supscriptions

    • @knuckleheadfitness1127
      @knuckleheadfitness1127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jozarovschesschannel yea but it just seems like it's rigged that's all I'm saying. You should say something to the organizers or ask them about it. Cus you no it's like that every game with these engines. It's just not 1 here or there it's every game. There are anomalies in every game and it just looks rigged. I like the content I just don't like it when it seems like a conspiracy or something is rigged. Specially when chess is a game. The world is already corrupt enough don't no why chess organizers have to corrupt such a beautiful game. But maybe I'm wrong but I don't feel like I am and it's just kinda irritating to me that the tcec organizers are pushing stockfish when it may not be the best engine. But when the help of the people in control it is. Just seems fake. So maybe you should talk to the the people at tcec and ask them some of the issues I'm bringing to your attention.

    • @knuckleheadfitness1127
      @knuckleheadfitness1127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jozarovschesschannel fyi you analyze these games and post content using games from the tcec competition wouldn't you like to know why these engines make moves like example in this game at move 62... Rook a8 then move 64... a7? I mean if I was creating content for my TH-cam channel and the using material that seemed rigged or otherwise faulty or fake I for 1 wouldn't make the content using that material 2. Or at least find out why it is the way it is and then explain to my veiwers why or the issues or give some context otherwise I would just change the material that I would be covering because I wouldn't want to be associated with something is not genuine or legit or at least not have a full understanding why it is not the way it seems in reality. If my reality don't match with that I'm seeing I wanna no why then from there determine weather or not the material is worth covering otherwise I could be labeled a puppet or someone who is corrupt just saying.

    • @MichaelJones-eq4ne
      @MichaelJones-eq4ne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knuckleheadfitness1127 We all agree that 64.a7 is a blunder, The cause might be time trouble or a bug in that version of Leela. If chess engines never made mistakes we would see comments complaining about too many draws.

    • @Roboviewer
      @Roboviewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@knuckleheadfitness1127 Watch many Lc0 games? When it loses, it's usually a spectacular endgame blunder with little time left on its clock.

  • @luisllontopbarahona3188
    @luisllontopbarahona3188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good game by the Fish... It was very intersting how the Fish played the Karon Cann... Thank you for sharing.

  • @sinbadw00t
    @sinbadw00t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow that ending was dramatic check mate from the 2 connected past pawns unreal BRINGING IN THE rook

  • @gokselkabaroglusatranc3402
    @gokselkabaroglusatranc3402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks 👍 👍 👍 👍

  • @clivethereddevil3178
    @clivethereddevil3178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is amazing that I have around 650 games in the Chessbase Megadatabase 2022 with the position at 4:45 after 9.Bd3 but there are no games with the continuation 9...Bd7. 14 other moves have been played. It is a surprise that nobody has ever tried ...Bd7 in a serious game. Someone must have considered it at some point. There is a game in the online database Karl Heinz Kahl - Wolfgang Muster from an email game in 2013 that reached the position by transposition. Black played 8...Bd7 then 9...0-0.
    [Site "Remote email"]
    [Date "2013.05.19"]
    [Round "?"]
    [White "Kahl, Karl Heinz"]
    [Black "Muster, Wolfgang"]
    [Result "0-1"]
    [ECO "B14"]
    [WhiteElo "2161"]
    [BlackElo "2264"]
    1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. c4 c6 4. d4 cxd5 5. Nc3 e6 6. Nf3 Bb4 7. cxd5 Nxd5 8.
    Bd2 Bd7 9. Bd3 O-O 10. O-O Bc6 11. Ne5 Bd6 12. Ne4 Bxe5 13. dxe5 Nd7 14. Qh5 g6
    15. Qh6 Nxe5 16. Bc3 f6 17. Bxe5 fxe5 18. Ng5 Qe7 19. Be4 Nf4 20. Bxc6 bxc6 21.
    Rfe1 Rf5 22. h4 Rd8 23. Rac1 c5 24. Rc2 Nd3 25. Ree2 Rd7 26. Red2 e4 27. a3 a5
    28. g3 e3 29. fxe3 Qd6 30. Kh2 Qa6 31. e4 Rf1 32. Kg2 Ne1+ 33. Kh3 Rh1+ 34. Kg4
    Nd3 35. b3 Qd6 36. Rxc5 Qxc5 37. Rxd3 Qc8 38. Rf3 e5 39. Ne6 Rf7 40. Rf6 Rf1
    41. Rxg6+ hxg6 42. Qxg6+ Kh8 43. Qh5+ Rh7 44. Qxe5+ Kg8 45. Kh3 Kf7 46. Kg2
    Qxe6 47. Qxe6+ Kxe6 48. Kxf1 Ke5 49. b4 axb4 50. axb4 Kxe4 51. Kg2 Rb7 0-1

  • @nabilkha5647
    @nabilkha5647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tk

  • @joseraulcapablanca8564
    @joseraulcapablanca8564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again fantastic strategical and tactical play from the fish. Thanks Josip and keep up the great work.

  • @emjhaybondoc2477
    @emjhaybondoc2477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like semi tarrasch idol...

  • @merizekchemseddine8161
    @merizekchemseddine8161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good game thanks for this

  • @merizekchemseddine8161
    @merizekchemseddine8161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍 nice

  • @knuckleheadfitness1127
    @knuckleheadfitness1127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And another anomaly is at move 62...rook a8 takes the evaluation from 0.0 to -1 then at move 64... a7 takes the game from -1.0 to -4.0 again suspicious as hell and I think it's rigged and kinda bullshit.

    • @dannygjk
      @dannygjk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even engines don't see every line.