I've been writing for a long time and already have quite a few romances published online (under pen name). I like to watch "tutorials" on writing, but 99% of them don't tell me anything new. This video got me interested. I don't use what you're talking about consciously, but my books are full of just those little moments that seemingly don't push the romance forward, but make the conversations between the characters exciting.
Ooh thank you for explaining this cycle so clearly! I'm working on a slow-burn at the moment (enemies to lovers) and this will help me lay out the steps in their development more deliberately and make sure they don't coast or spin their wheels overlong. Subscribed!
Bid scenes increase anticipation for future burn scenes, while also increasing tension, because too many failed bids can sink a relationship, so each one missed throws the future of the relationship into greater jeopardy.
This is great specific advice that other videos on slow burn never touched on. Now my problem is converting it to work for my vampire seduction story. 🤔 The vampire is seducing a lovely woman away from her fiance whom she is very loyal toward, with the intent of turning her. He can't just turn her against her will because there is a high failure rate in turning, and consent makes the conversion process more likely to succeed. He has to tread lightly and make her love him.
Can the vampire connect with your heroine on something her fiancé can't? Even if it's insincere (or starts that way), that would give him an opening for building a relationship with her. (Is this a story where he falls for her?)
@emilyrln Big time, yes. He actually encourages her to go back to being Goth. Her fiance is from a political family and he wouldn't be with her unless she became 'normal' so he could introduce her to his parents. The vampire brings her back to her real self. It's so funny you brought this up, it's one of my recent expansions on this story that's helping to get my story back on track.
@@windangel7720 Ooh, I like that! I'm curious as to why FMC is so loyal to her fiancé if he's basically demanding that she change in order to be with him. Has she convinced herself that being Goth is some childish fad that she needs to grow out of? What makes her want to be with him? I feel like that's going to be key in her arc towards being her genuine self and breaking things off with fiancé. Also, is being a vampire a positive thing in this universe? Do vamps have to exploit other people in order to survive, or is there an ethical way for them to exist? (This doesn't necessarily need to be the case; just wondering!)
Love this!! I've been watching videos from other people on how to write a slow burn romance, but they usually give very generic advice that rarely sparks any new thoughts or ideas. I like that you specifically focused on the chemistry and tension within the lines exchanged between characters in their scenes. Your video is the most helpful one I've seen on the subject! Thank you so much for your efforts😁
SO many things clicked into place watching this video! Thank you as always for thinking things out so brilliantly and sharing the finely distilled results with us. You're an exceptionally gifted teacher.
Ma'am I just found your channel today and I already love it. Your points are to the point and easy to understand and omg mary + matthew reference could not be a better reference to get me to understand. the sizzle!!!!!!
Great question. I think it has a lot to do with how many scenes your characters need to appear in together. If your plot is forcing them together in every scene, you may need more burns and bids than if they are separate a lot.
You just changed the entire way I write. I am actually creating a slow burn and feeling more successful. It's not perfect but I actually understand it better thank you so much!
Damn, you are great at laying out some effective techniques! I don't even write mysteries, and I've even found your mystery-specific videos so helpful.
This is INCREDABLY helpful, you set things up so it's simple and structured (What is this character's view on this character, how they 'fight', parry, etc) and boiled down to it's bare bones meaning is really helpful! I love your videos, keep on makin' them :D
I really love this video. I don't know why I only recently discovered your channel, but I love your videos! You have such great breakdowns and very clear information. Thanks for sharing!
@@janekalmes I saw someone else comment that they can't believe your channel hasn't truly blown up yet, and I agree! I added your channel to the "notables" list in my writer group, for sure.
This was really helpful. So nice to have slow burn broken down into understandable parts. I have a clearer sense of how to create tension now. Thanks 😊
In that case, the first burn I’d be tempted to give them is one of them waking up to the possibility that they could be more than friends. This would be something like the first scenes on Friends where Joey begins to imagine something romantic happening with Rachel. Not my favorite pairing on the show, but I’ll bet those scenes would show exactly how to do this!
Thanks so much, Robert, it was great meeting you today! I'm doing my afternoon run-around with the kids, but I can't wait to check out your channel tonight!
@@janekalmes Hope you like it. I’m only recently back after a prolonged hiatus brought on by the miseries of 2020…LOL! New equipment and editing platform that I’m pretty much learning as I go along!
Such great info! ThNk you so much for putting in all this work to explain these concepts. Sometime, would you potentially do a video showcasing some of those books you have on your bookcase? I can’t quite read the titles but I’m sure I would enjoy reading some of them. (Also an update on Kitty Callahan!)
Enjoyed the video. I am working on a current day novel where the characters are growing closer, but geography and bad timing are about to blow things up. Despite their feelings they will be forced apart for years before accidentally running into each other when old feelings get reignited and churned up. Something akin to Before Sunrise/Before Sunset. Is this considered a slow burn? Or is it something else? Also, how well does subtext work in modern day romance vice the early 20th century when social mores and class dynamics got in the way of two people getting together? Seems like we get to the sucker punch much sooner these days.
Well, you are certainly right that we have less restrictive mores. But people do still feel just as anxious and prideful as ever, so there may still be things they’re unwilling to say to one another! I want to say that the relationship you describe is popularly known as “second chance romance.” It could still be a slow burn, but that depends on how slowly things develop once you get your characters together again.
@@janekalmes Thanks for the clarification. I agree with your points. Subtext still has a role to play in human interaction. I am interested in how it plays within and across different generations, Millennials vs GenZ, for example. And also across cultures. I am coming from the mystery and SCI FI genres. I have only dabbled in romance fiction, but I am interested in character development and relationships. So, still learning.
I think the best place I talked about it was in this video: th-cam.com/video/s62c_ROOgHI/w-d-xo.html I did some scene planning in this video, and went over that question and a few others.
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I'm reconstructing a short story into a full mystery. These videos are helping.
How has your channel not blown up yet? It’s so helpful and fun to watch! Do your thing, YT algorithm!
Seriously!! Such a hidden gem!
Thank you so much!
Thank you, rainbow!
A day when a new Fiction Technician video appears is always a good day.
Agreed…the YT algorithm is terrible! But in discovering Jane’s channel also gives me several new people to sub to, discover, and support :)
I've been writing for a long time and already have quite a few romances published online (under pen name). I like to watch "tutorials" on writing, but 99% of them don't tell me anything new. This video got me interested. I don't use what you're talking about consciously, but my books are full of just those little moments that seemingly don't push the romance forward, but make the conversations between the characters exciting.
Ooh thank you for explaining this cycle so clearly! I'm working on a slow-burn at the moment (enemies to lovers) and this will help me lay out the steps in their development more deliberately and make sure they don't coast or spin their wheels overlong. Subscribed!
Bid scenes increase anticipation for future burn scenes, while also increasing tension, because too many failed bids can sink a relationship, so each one missed throws the future of the relationship into greater jeopardy.
Great points!
This is great specific advice that other videos on slow burn never touched on. Now my problem is converting it to work for my vampire seduction story. 🤔 The vampire is seducing a lovely woman away from her fiance whom she is very loyal toward, with the intent of turning her. He can't just turn her against her will because there is a high failure rate in turning, and consent makes the conversion process more likely to succeed. He has to tread lightly and make her love him.
Can the vampire connect with your heroine on something her fiancé can't? Even if it's insincere (or starts that way), that would give him an opening for building a relationship with her. (Is this a story where he falls for her?)
@emilyrln Big time, yes. He actually encourages her to go back to being Goth. Her fiance is from a political family and he wouldn't be with her unless she became 'normal' so he could introduce her to his parents. The vampire brings her back to her real self. It's so funny you brought this up, it's one of my recent expansions on this story that's helping to get my story back on track.
@@windangel7720 Ooh, I like that! I'm curious as to why FMC is so loyal to her fiancé if he's basically demanding that she change in order to be with him. Has she convinced herself that being Goth is some childish fad that she needs to grow out of? What makes her want to be with him? I feel like that's going to be key in her arc towards being her genuine self and breaking things off with fiancé.
Also, is being a vampire a positive thing in this universe? Do vamps have to exploit other people in order to survive, or is there an ethical way for them to exist? (This doesn't necessarily need to be the case; just wondering!)
Love this!! I've been watching videos from other people on how to write a slow burn romance, but they usually give very generic advice that rarely sparks any new thoughts or ideas. I like that you specifically focused on the chemistry and tension within the lines exchanged between characters in their scenes. Your video is the most helpful one I've seen on the subject! Thank you so much for your efforts😁
So glad to hear that, and you’re so welcome!
SO many things clicked into place watching this video! Thank you as always for thinking things out so brilliantly and sharing the finely distilled results with us. You're an exceptionally gifted teacher.
You are so welcome! Thank you for these lovely words!
This is so useful
Ma'am I just found your channel today and I already love it. Your points are to the point and easy to understand and omg mary + matthew reference could not be a better reference to get me to understand. the sizzle!!!!!!
This is the best video on slow burn. I watched so many before finding this. Thanks!!!
How did you know I needed this? Also, love me some Downton.
Glad it helped!
Thank you. That was so helpful to me. I'm moving on to your characters who are built for romance. Your explanation of the rules and needs is great.
I’m so glad you like it!
Fantastic examples, and now I'm hooked on Downton Abbey, so thank you twice? lol. How often would you rotate the bid/bid/burn sequence?
Great question. I think it has a lot to do with how many scenes your characters need to appear in together. If your plot is forcing them together in every scene, you may need more burns and bids than if they are separate a lot.
You just changed the entire way I write. I am actually creating a slow burn and feeling more successful. It's not perfect but I actually understand it better thank you so much!
Awesome, so glad it was helpful!
this information was like a drop from heaven, immediate subscription
Awesome, glad it helped!
Thank you; you're the first to actually explain it💕
Great advice, and very well presented! I can't wait to learn more.
This has been insanely PRACTICAL. Omg, this is exactly the stuff I didn’t know I didn’t know!
That’s what I love to hear! It makes my day when I feel like I helped clarify something for someone. Thanks for letting me know!
Damn, you are great at laying out some effective techniques! I don't even write mysteries, and I've even found your mystery-specific videos so helpful.
Wow, that is so great to hear! Glad I could help!
This is INCREDABLY helpful, you set things up so it's simple and structured (What is this character's view on this character, how they 'fight', parry, etc) and boiled down to it's bare bones meaning is really helpful! I love your videos, keep on makin' them :D
So glad it's helpful!
awesome as usual.
(keep it simple stupid definitely works for me )
Glad to hear it!
I love this video. Thank you so much!
You are so welcome! Thanks for the Super Thanks!
This is brilliantly helpful, thank you.
You're so welcome!
I love your re=worked acronym 🙌
Thank you!
I really love this video. I don't know why I only recently discovered your channel, but I love your videos! You have such great breakdowns and very clear information. Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome, I’m so glad. You like them!
@@janekalmes I saw someone else comment that they can't believe your channel hasn't truly blown up yet, and I agree! I added your channel to the "notables" list in my writer group, for sure.
@@foggyfiction9917 Wow, thank you! I really appreciate that!
This was really helpful. So nice to have slow burn broken down into understandable parts. I have a clearer sense of how to create tension now. Thanks 😊
That’s so great! Glad it was helpful!
What happens for the burn scene when the characters have known each other a long time but haven’t had a romantic relationship yet?
In that case, the first burn I’d be tempted to give them is one of them waking up to the possibility that they could be more than friends. This would be something like the first scenes on Friends where Joey begins to imagine something romantic happening with Rachel. Not my favorite pairing on the show, but I’ll bet those scenes would show exactly how to do this!
This has been the most helpful video I’ve seen so far on writing romance (And I’ve seen many). Thank you! Great content!
You're so welcome!
Clicked this video for the romance scenes i need, saw your others videos were abt murder and instantly subbed :)
Awesome, welcome aboard!
Jane, this is great stuff! How did I never see your videos before? YT just needs to give us a better way to find one another!
Thanks so much, Robert, it was great meeting you today! I'm doing my afternoon run-around with the kids, but I can't wait to check out your channel tonight!
@@janekalmes Hope you like it. I’m only recently back after a prolonged hiatus brought on by the miseries of 2020…LOL! New equipment and editing platform that I’m pretty much learning as I go along!
Great video as always. It was also nice to see The Bombay Prince mentioned.
Glad you enjoyed it! I adore Sujata Massey.
@@janekalmesHave you read India Gray? The first of the four short stories features Perveen in her Oxford days. I discovered it only recently.
I haven’t read it, thanks for the rec!
amaaaazing video thank you!! so straightforward, informative, and fun to watch. liked n subscribed :)
Yay, glad to have you aboard!
I hope you do know that not all inheritances are entailed to male heirs in the UK? I mean some are/were sure but not all of them.
I wish I had brains like Jane's. (trademarked)
You’re the best, Anthony!
good job please keep going
your tips were so helpful and easy to understand
Glad you liked it!
You make it so easy to understand thank you
So glad to hear that!
great video!
please make more vids.
any writing topic
You got it!
Such great info! ThNk you so much for putting in all this work to explain these concepts. Sometime, would you potentially do a video showcasing some of those books you have on your bookcase? I can’t quite read the titles but I’m sure I would enjoy reading some of them. (Also an update on Kitty Callahan!)
You’re so welcome! I do have more Kitty Callahan, coming soon I hope!
Enjoyed the video. I am working on a current day novel where the characters are growing closer, but geography and bad timing are about to blow things up. Despite their feelings they will be forced apart for years before accidentally running into each other when old feelings get reignited and churned up. Something akin to Before Sunrise/Before Sunset. Is this considered a slow burn? Or is it something else? Also, how well does subtext work in modern day romance vice the early 20th century when social mores and class dynamics got in the way of two people getting together? Seems like we get to the sucker punch much sooner these days.
Well, you are certainly right that we have less restrictive mores. But people do still feel just as anxious and prideful as ever, so there may still be things they’re unwilling to say to one another!
I want to say that the relationship you describe is popularly known as “second chance romance.” It could still be a slow burn, but that depends on how slowly things develop once you get your characters together again.
@@janekalmes Thanks for the clarification. I agree with your points. Subtext still has a role to play in human interaction. I am interested in how it plays within and across different generations, Millennials vs GenZ, for example. And also across cultures.
I am coming from the mystery and SCI FI genres. I have only dabbled in romance fiction, but I am interested in character development and relationships. So, still learning.
What happens if you’re experiencing this in real life? Am I living a fantasy or is this actually possible?
Have you talked about yes, but/no, and?
I think the best place I talked about it was in this video:
th-cam.com/video/s62c_ROOgHI/w-d-xo.html
I did some scene planning in this video, and went over that question and a few others.
💕
Thank you!