I mean a timer is supposed to do one thing: time. Just so happens that that timer works well with cubing. Now that I know it won't count past 10 minutes though... was speedstacks timer chosen for the 'solve max time: 10 minutes' rule or did the rule come as a result of the speedstacks timer not counting past 10 minutes?
Finally a very detailed explanation of what makes the G5 Controversy significant. I just don't like it when they say "I don't know what the fuss is all about. It's ugly, and that's about it."
My g4 broke a few weeks ago and i needed a new timer. I was debating if should go for a new g4 or a g5 in the end I decided for the g5. And the looks are despite everything that has been said, not that bad in my opinion
In Europe they cost the equivalent of ~50 USD. They could at the very least include the 2.5 to 3.5 mm cable since the time itself doesn't even have a Ao5 function.
The only reason I don’t like it is because it bothers me having features that do absolutely nothing for me. I would be less upset if the wca made us use the thumb pads than I am having a timer that has thumb pads for no reason. It is also hard to buy this when you can get a GAN timer that does everything the G5 does and more.
Tbh, I won't buy it until it becomes the timer used for WCA competitions. Until then, I will stick with my G4 timer. I often use the saving feature. I use a mini mat, so I won't need to buy a new mat.
I think they should make a timer that when you start the timer use the 4 pad,when you stop the timer use the 2 pad.I think when they make it,wca with allow this timer
If i don't own either timer, should I get the gen 5 or the gen 4? I love the new style of the video and the review was a very good explanation of every thing
Solving the cube in general (with no focus on speed) shouldn't take so long. The beginner's method took me less than a few watches of a 10min long tutorial and couple hours of training (I was able to solve the cube in less than 2 minutes after less than a week). If you mean speedsolving, I learned the beginner's method about 3 years ago and after training it for 1 to 3 months, I would occasionally get below 1 minute, although rarely. Then I left cubing for 3 years and went back to it about a month ago, when I learned CFOP. Learning CFOP took me (with all of the 16 basic algorhytms) about 3 days to be able to solve the cube without a paper with the algs written down. Now, about a month later, I usually get times below 50 seconds with some sub 40 times here and there. If you started cubing right now, I can't really say your learning curve will be the same as mine, since I really like math, numbers and have quite good memory, thus, I have a bit easier time learning algs, but I'd say maybe half a year at most to get from zero to my level. But there are many other factors, including age (I'm 18, so if you are younger, you will likely have easier time learning new things), motivation (you will probably never learn something you don't like doing), source of information... If you want to start cubing, I recommend J perm's tutorials, they are very well done, concise and straight to the point. Sorry for the length of the text, tried to fit all the useful info without making it too long, but it didn't really work out apparently, lol.
@@vit.budina LMAO I can’t tell you how different you and I are in regards to what you have listed so far. I am 46 years old, very dyslexic and ADHD, never been very good at math it took a lot of brute force and tutoring; I got to business calculus and business math, for example logistics. If this didn’t make the whole learning speed to be interesting enough I also am currently suffering from severe back problems meaning that I’m constantly in a lot of pain and on medication. So I fight to have enough mental and physical energy to do things. Cubing has been a wonderful thing to help me move forward. It doesn’t help that the book I decided to use ended up having three mistakes in it and that’s just in a 3 x 3 section. LOL lastly I have to say I’ve never been very good at memorizing things. Learning how to do the cube has been a personal challenge I want to overcome and I have been very much enjoying the challenge. It’s taking me a long time but considering all the obstacles I think I’m doing a good pace. I have even helped three people to start learning how to do this wonderful hobby. I’ve been setting this on and off for about four months and I’m almost able to do it from memory. I need to memorize three algorithms. It takes a long time for for me to get the algorithms to stick my brain. It’s all these opposite direction things that happen but if he is a hell out of me. J perm is an awesome TH-cam I watch his stuff all the time and z3cubing and bunch more! 1❤️
@@Peaceful_Zen_Life I wasn't. Where I live (Czech Republic), these events are very rare, there's usually 1 comp per year, if any. But I would love to go, even if I will probably have no chance to get decent times. For the same reason.
Ive still got mine from 2005 this inspired me to go find it lol hasnt been used in 10 years ordered new battery mine is from cup stacking will let you know how it goes
How did you Remove the logo from your Cube.I watched your Tutorial but it doesn't work for me. I scrubbed the Sugar on the Logo for 30 Minutes but it barely did anything.
I don't really like the more scripted videos because I feel like it's more fun to watch when you like react to it or do first impressions with it so we know more of how you really think of it.
i know its been a year and you probably already know but no you dont, the competition organizers provide everything you need except for the cube (of course i mean why would you go to a comp w/o a cube)
I don't have a timer, but I think I would buy the g4 when I get one. Also, I prefer the less scripted videos. They seem more natural to me!😊 But you can do whatever you want. It is your chanel!
I think after the first impact from dropping the cube to touching the timer reset the weight of your hand ware not on your fingers anymore so its still good
I see what ur saying, but it’s not like they can make it take 5 seconds reset or something, as that would be far too time consuming. So while it still can be an issue, it’s much less likely.
As a stacker, i already hate this timer. I dont wanna use 4 pads to start and stop the timer. Plus it eliminates the opposite first 3 style which most stackers use. The records reset is borderline plain stupid. As a cuber, maybe this isnt a bad timer to use.
I really hope the 4-pad concept will quickly become obsolete. A better re-design might be that they angle the 2-pads in such a way that it prevents them from stopping the timer using their arms. I don't really know much about SportStacking, but is it really that difficult for the WCA to really implement the "palms facing down before starting" rule? And, yes, the implementation of "Legacy Records" is just dumb.
Sorry but cubing but the g4 was built with cubing in mind and stack mat timers were built for speed stacking so and even tho cubing is more popular now speed stacks still have there brand on the timer so people would expect to use it for stacking
I got this timer as a 1st timer and my reason is..... uhh..... let's just say it was the newest timer, and I thought why not get a timer to use. Edit: Also it's cheaper than the G4 for me
1:44 but you cannot use it. 7f1a) Stackmat: The Speed Stacks Stackmat timer and a full-size compatible mat. Generation 2, Generation 3 Pro Timer, and/or Generation 4 Pro Timer must be used for time measurement. Edit: there are 3D printed things to prevent reseting the timer while stopping. 4:54 I see no reason to buy G5 at all. It is okay if you use it at first timer, but if you have the old one, it is not an upgrade. Pads are closer, and they will probably stay forever as not legal in WCA. (If not forever, then for a long time for sure.) I wouldn't grab it, but I guess, I have to... 6:07 I would do it for reviews only.
The conclusion of this video is under the assumption that the WCA does approve it, which seemed like somewhat of a consensus on the forum. I would agree that there's no point if they don't.
I like how cubers took a timer used for timing how fast you can stack cups, and just went: Yep! That's a cubing timer!
I mean a timer is supposed to do one thing: time. Just so happens that that timer works well with cubing.
Now that I know it won't count past 10 minutes though... was speedstacks timer chosen for the 'solve max time: 10 minutes' rule or did the rule come as a result of the speedstacks timer not counting past 10 minutes?
They should just use the yj pocket timer
@@SUPERSOLLY-_- - 🤓
@@Dawid23_Gamera bit of both. the 5x5 and 6x6 were added while the 10 minute limit still exist, so up to you what conclusion you want to make!!
the WCA is an affiliate of speedstacks
When it comes to reviewing products i like the more scripted style since it seems more thought out and organized
True
Finally a very detailed explanation of what makes the G5 Controversy significant.
I just don't like it when they say "I don't know what the fuss is all about. It's ugly, and that's about it."
Do. They. UNDERSTAND . THE PAIN. How about they look into sport stacking? They wont.
Everybody gangsta till there is a stickerless stackmat timer
Edit: yo how tf did this comment get so many likes? This is crazy tysm
It exist actually
The phone is technically stickerless and can act as a timer
@@jadenbcs yeah
Lmao
2 more likes for a nice number!
@@jadenbcs he says a stackmat timer
I see no reason to upgrade, I love my g4 and it has served me for years.
Been watching the world's best .. they haven't upgraded either .. it's garbage.
and its very durable, according pube head
@@fatsquirrel75 it’s not garbage, per se, but I think it’s just unnecessary if you already have a good enough timer
@@fatsquirrel75 more waste of money if you have a g4. If you don't have either you can get the g5. So it's not really that bad
well the thing is its made for cup stacking
Here's an idea for a video: I tried to make the strongest magnets possible for a 3x3 :)
that would be cool
Neodymium magnets the size of each side
Just adding some comments for the algorithm
Lol
It would be so cool for Z3 to actually do it
You’re such an awesome cuber and you really inspired me to start cubing. Thank you so much
thanks so much for this review.
the controversy didn't make sense to me but now i understand it much more! 😁
I love your videos Z3cubing! Keep up the good work!
My g4 broke a few weeks ago and i needed a new timer. I was debating if should go for a new g4 or a g5 in the end I decided for the g5. And the looks are despite everything that has been said, not that bad in my opinion
It looks better than what people say. My friends say it's ugly but when I bought it it looked as good or better than the g4.
In Europe they cost the equivalent of ~50 USD. They could at the very least include the 2.5 to 3.5 mm cable since the time itself doesn't even have a Ao5 function.
I feel that comps will want these for the accidental reset resistance, at least the biggest ones
I love your videos so much dont give up upto 1 million
Thanks for the video! I choose to buy the timer after watching your vid.
40$?! I'll just wait for the bootleg version they sell on amazon thankyou very much
I would’ve bought a qj timer lol
@@giantasiansticker8068 *yj*
@@QwerkyCuber no there’s qj timers th-cam.com/video/eTcpl-U3gZM/w-d-xo.html
@@giantasiansticker8068 ok
It looks so buff and bulky 😂
That’s real 😎 cool. Thanks for the great info by the way!
It looks very different than the gen 4 and I don’t have a timer but I still want a gen 4 more
Same
The only reason I don’t like it is because it bothers me having features that do absolutely nothing for me. I would be less upset if the wca made us use the thumb pads than I am having a timer that has thumb pads for no reason. It is also hard to buy this when you can get a GAN timer that does everything the G5 does and more.
and looks better
well the thumb pads are for cup stacking
I still use the hen one timer. Works great.
This changed a lot for me
Tbh, I won't buy it until it becomes the timer used for WCA competitions. Until then, I will stick with my G4 timer. I often use the saving feature. I use a mini mat, so I won't need to buy a new mat.
I think they should make a timer that when you start the timer use the 4 pad,when you stop the timer use the 2 pad.I think when they make it,wca with allow this timer
Yes that would be cool and I would buy it 😁
If i don't own either timer, should I get the gen 5 or the gen 4?
I love the new style of the video and the review was a very good explanation of every thing
I would hold off and make sure that the WCA approves use of the G5, then buy it. But you can't go wrong either way really.
@@Z3Cubing unless you buy the g5 and it isn't approved, then you chose poorly.
I had neither and i bought gen 5
3 rd, and you super nice. I like your voice too 😊😊👍👍
Could you do a video on how long it takes the average person to learn to speed cube from knowing nothing to knowing how to solve a cube from memory?
Solving the cube in general (with no focus on speed) shouldn't take so long. The beginner's method took me less than a few watches of a 10min long tutorial and couple hours of training (I was able to solve the cube in less than 2 minutes after less than a week). If you mean speedsolving, I learned the beginner's method about 3 years ago and after training it for 1 to 3 months, I would occasionally get below 1 minute, although rarely. Then I left cubing for 3 years and went back to it about a month ago, when I learned CFOP. Learning CFOP took me (with all of the 16 basic algorhytms) about 3 days to be able to solve the cube without a paper with the algs written down. Now, about a month later, I usually get times below 50 seconds with some sub 40 times here and there. If you started cubing right now, I can't really say your learning curve will be the same as mine, since I really like math, numbers and have quite good memory, thus, I have a bit easier time learning algs, but I'd say maybe half a year at most to get from zero to my level. But there are many other factors, including age (I'm 18, so if you are younger, you will likely have easier time learning new things), motivation (you will probably never learn something you don't like doing), source of information... If you want to start cubing, I recommend J perm's tutorials, they are very well done, concise and straight to the point. Sorry for the length of the text, tried to fit all the useful info without making it too long, but it didn't really work out apparently, lol.
@@vit.budina LMAO I can’t tell you how different you and I are in regards to what you have listed so far. I am 46 years old, very dyslexic and ADHD, never been very good at math it took a lot of brute force and tutoring; I got to business calculus and business math, for example logistics. If this didn’t make the whole learning speed to be interesting enough I also am currently suffering from severe back problems meaning that I’m constantly in a lot of pain and on medication. So I fight to have enough mental and physical energy to do things. Cubing has been a wonderful thing to help me move forward. It doesn’t help that the book I decided to use ended up having three mistakes in it and that’s just in a 3 x 3 section. LOL lastly I have to say I’ve never been very good at memorizing things. Learning how to do the cube has been a personal challenge I want to overcome and I have been very much enjoying the challenge. It’s taking me a long time but considering all the obstacles I think I’m doing a good pace. I have even helped three people to start learning how to do this wonderful hobby. I’ve been setting this on and off for about four months and I’m almost able to do it from memory. I need to memorize three algorithms. It takes a long time for for me to get the algorithms to stick my brain. It’s all these opposite direction things that happen but if he is a hell out of me.
J perm is an awesome TH-cam I watch his stuff all the time and z3cubing and bunch more!
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@@Peaceful_Zen_Life oh, wow, I admire the effort you put into this awesome hobby! Keep it up!
@@vit.budina thanks! Will do!
Have you ever been to a competition? I was thinking about going just for the fun of going.
@@Peaceful_Zen_Life I wasn't. Where I live (Czech Republic), these events are very rare, there's usually 1 comp per year, if any. But I would love to go, even if I will probably have no chance to get decent times. For the same reason.
Just got one and a cord this is my first ever timer
If you hadn’t said said speedstacking company, I would’ve thought gan made it. Making a money grabber that is almost the same as the last release.
Gan made a bluetooth timer, but it's more similar to G4, than G5. But yeah, SpeedStacks just want MONEY and ir's disgusting.
@@gcubing_4064 speedstacks is NOT good.... they're resetting ALL speed stacking records in September because of this piece of shit timer
@@StackAttack1 My only hope is that WCA will not approve it and it will illigal forever.
@@gcubing_4064 why?
@@NoodleSoup23 Because of unfair advantage. The pads are closer.
lol he just leaves the timer running at the end
I hate how the G5 looks and they removed the Save time feature, I prefer the G4 any day and will stick with mine.
great video. just had a question when is the g5 stackmat timer going to be legal in the wca
The upgarde may not seem like its good but for me its a blessing
I once pressed restart on my pb
It was 5.8 seconds
Decent price of $33? WOOOAAAHHHH!!!
Its only 1$ more than the g4
@@NoodleSoup23 but that price altogether is super expensive. At least it lasts for a long time...
@@TheWeirdCuber Im not saying its cheap im saying compared to the g4 its not really any difference
@@NoodleSoup23 ik, but i personally dont think that it is worth to buy it if you already have the g4 timer
@@TheWeirdCuber I agree if you already have the g4 you shouldnt upgrade. But in my case i had neither so i went with the g5
I think In gonna use both 😊
I still have an old gen 3, and I don't plan on buying a new one any time soon.
Ive still got mine from 2005 this inspired me to go find it lol hasnt been used in 10 years ordered new battery mine is from cup stacking will let you know how it goes
In England the G5 timer is cheaper than the G4 timer.
4:48 people that have never bought a timer:
How did you Remove the logo from your Cube.I watched your Tutorial but it doesn't work for me. I scrubbed the Sugar on the Logo for 30 Minutes but it barely did anything.
Great Video!!!!
4-pad mode for Sport Stacking, 2-pad mode for speedcubing
I’m a cup stacker. And this timer has gotten so much hate in the sport stacking community. I personally don’t like it.
I would imagine. The change is just too big for both sports.
I just had an idea what if you rewired the gen 5 electronics in the gen 4 body?
When I’m buying a new timer should I get gen 4 or gen 5 I am new to cubing so I need a timer
1:05 world record !
I’m getting a gen 5 stackmat. This is so helpfull
Edit: 1:07 boy thats a wr
My g4 has done me good for years, and I don't really see any reason to change.
Gangsta till gen 6 timer
I am going to buy it
I don't really like the more scripted videos because I feel like it's more fun to watch when you like react to it or do first impressions with it so we know more of how you really think of it.
what are the stickers on the side of the g4?
Can you Show us the Stackmat G3 timer too?
I only own a G2, G4, and G5. But they're still pretty prevalent around cubing competitions today, you can still see them in a lot of official solves.
Do you plan on going to Pikes Peak Comps?
1:04 anyone noticed he beat the world record
When will you unbox the weilong wrm 2021?
I just ordered my first timer and it was gen 4
Can you review the mgc square 1
I think that stackers have (at least unofficially) two leaderboards, I don't think they were affected that much...?
:oooo new timer shappeee
What does the bad come with?
You think I can get a gen 4 timer for cheeper now ?
Man I really wish I hade a cube timer
Yoo at 1:30 he said dnf 💚💙💚💙💚💙💚💙💚💙💚💙💚
I have a question: do you have to get your own timer to a competition?
i know its been a year and you probably already know but no you dont, the competition organizers provide everything you need except for the cube (of course i mean why would you go to a comp w/o a cube)
I don't have a timer, but I think I would buy the g4 when I get one. Also, I prefer the less scripted videos. They seem more natural to me!😊 But you can do whatever you want. It is your chanel!
Btw, do you know how to stack?? I saw you did have cups.
*1:30*
*What if someone stopped the timer and* *forgot to take back their hands for a split second*
I think after the first impact from dropping the cube to touching the timer reset the weight of your hand ware not on your fingers anymore so its still good
I see what ur saying, but it’s not like they can make it take 5 seconds reset or something, as that would be far too time consuming. So while it still can be an issue, it’s much less likely.
@@williambryan3942 but chances are there,
And also it requires 2sec long press
*Not 5sec 🙃
Wait, sportstacking is still a thing?
where i live one timer costs $50, is that even worth it?
The gen five looks professional but gen 4 looks more classic
Legoboyz3 you are FAST solver
What is the mat for? Sorry I know nothing about these events, just curious why not just use the timer by itself?
So your cube doesn't scuff if you throw it hard
I like the timer (and the vid too)
Oh And My G4 Timer Broke :(
The 10 mins is probably to stop people from accidentally forgetting to turn off the timer, and wasting battery
Timestamp : 1:06 WR!!!!!!!!!
The GAN Timer is out And its much better
As a stacker, i already hate this timer. I dont wanna use 4 pads to start and stop the timer. Plus it eliminates the opposite first 3 style which most stackers use. The records reset is borderline plain stupid. As a cuber, maybe this isnt a bad timer to use.
SAME
I really hope the 4-pad concept will quickly become obsolete. A better re-design might be that they angle the 2-pads in such a way that it prevents them from stopping the timer using their arms.
I don't really know much about SportStacking, but is it really that difficult for the WCA to really implement the "palms facing down before starting" rule?
And, yes, the implementation of "Legacy Records" is just dumb.
@@thesphyrth unfortunately in the stacking world it may not be possible to make such a timer so unique where we stop by karate chopping.
1:05 new wr! lol
What is the best timer for an 8 year old to use? I also don’t want to spend $200 if possible.
This man is real life sid the sloth
*totally not me watching a gen5 timer review and seeing if i should buy this over the gen4 and then looking at my empty wallet*
I got it + an rs2m which I will do an unboxing video lol
my mom's birthday is on the 3rd of May is your birthday the 3rd of May?
i think we need a timer for cubing
Z3: Is it any good?
JPerm: No.
Tingman: Yes
Olor: NO
Someone tell me is there a minute digit so if your go over 60 second it shows s minute
bruh he said over ten MINUTES
They should have made the gen 4 pro with the same design
Oh, you have speed stack cups.
i went to a comp and we used g5 timers
Me see you solve a Rubik’s cube in 3 sec
OH DA NEW WOLRD RCOERD!
sorry but my gen 5 timer works with the gen 4 mat idk why
bruh im still on the gen 3 timer
1:05 world record :P
ayy ima order one rn
I gonna buy the g5 timer because they upgrade the reset button when doing accidental reset and you will not got a dnf
Sorry but cubing but the g4 was built with cubing in mind and stack mat timers were built for speed stacking so and even tho cubing is more popular now speed stacks still have there brand on the timer so people would expect to use it for stacking
I got this timer as a 1st timer and my reason is..... uhh..... let's just say it was the newest timer, and I thought why not get a timer to use.
Edit: Also it's cheaper than the G4 for me
random sidenote: I listen to eminem wile solving for maximum speed
1:44 but you cannot use it. 7f1a) Stackmat: The Speed Stacks Stackmat timer and a full-size compatible mat. Generation 2, Generation 3 Pro Timer, and/or Generation 4 Pro Timer must be used for time measurement.
Edit: there are 3D printed things to prevent reseting the timer while stopping.
4:54 I see no reason to buy G5 at all. It is okay if you use it at first timer, but if you have the old one, it is not an upgrade. Pads are closer, and they will probably stay forever as not legal in WCA. (If not forever, then for a long time for sure.) I wouldn't grab it, but I guess, I have to...
6:07 I would do it for reviews only.
The conclusion of this video is under the assumption that the WCA does approve it, which seemed like somewhat of a consensus on the forum. I would agree that there's no point if they don't.
Nice