Outstanding video! Thanks for taking the time to discuss the settings for optimizing these! I preordered my Retroid Pocket 5 and can't wait to relive so many of my Gamecube and PS2 favorites! I'd love to see videos for both of those systems on the RP5 - Especially if you can highlight optimizations that include widescreen hacks to take advantage of the glorious 5.5" 1080p AMOLED display! Personal favorites for that generation on PS2 and Gamecube include: Ico Shadow of the Colossus Beyond Good and Evil Okami Rez Psychonauts Klonoa 2 - Lunatea's Veil Katamari Damacy Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2 GTA III/Vice City/San Andreas War of the Monsters Maximo 1 & 2 Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 1 & 2 Champions of Norrath 1 & 2 Silent Hill 2/3/4 Fatal Frame 1/2/3 Devil May Cry 1 & 3 Ratchet & Clank 1/2/3 Sly Cooper 1/2/3 Downhill Domination Midnight Club 2 & 3 Soul Calibur 2 Metroid Prime I & 2 MGS Twin Snakes Star Wars Rogue Squadron II & III Twilight Princess Pikmin 1 & 2 Super Mario Sunshine Simpsons Hit & Run SSX Tricky Incredible Hulk - Ultimate Destruction Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2 Keep up the great work!
Really appreciate when you do videos like this, it's nice when a reviewer puts the effort in to show that these handhelds actually can do what's been claimed. And a nice twist testing the greatest hits 👍
I’ve watched SEVERAL videos on the RP Mini and none of them were convincing enough for me to want to make a purchase, but your video seems to have persuaded me to seriously consider it. Thank you for the very well put together video
What a massive compilation. Excellent video. If there's anything I could criticize, I'd have preferred you put the games in alphabetical order, so if there was a game I explicitly wanted to find, I'd be able to find it easier. But the description got my back anyway
Maaaaan what a beautiful showcase. I'm surprised at how well Gran Turismo 3 runs on this 865, my 8 gen 1 galaxy s22 ultra couldn't run it at native resolution! Great vid dad 👏
I'd say it give it a shot again! Make sure to use NetherSX2 (4248). If you're having real issues with it, change the hardware download mode option to "disable readbacks" which should help. 🤗 Always awesome to see you in the comments!
A video meant to run PS2 games on RP Mini & RP5 via NetherSX2 but ended up useful for all SD865 / SD865+ / SD870-powered devices. I may consider getting the second-hand S20+ (SD variant) / S20FE / LG V60 since that phone still has a microSD slot just to put more PS2 games without disturbing the internal storage + Bluetooth controller.
@@retrotechdadYo can you sell me a copy of your SD Card you use? Looking to get the RP5 for my first hand held console. I have a modded Wii with a full 2TB hard drive (it’s huge) but zero ps1/ps2/psp/DS/3DS games. I’m pretty excited actually lmk if we can get in touch 💪🏾
Great video. Too many other youtubers only tested or reviewed RP Mini with just 2x resolution, rather than the max resolution it can handle, so it's hard to get the true potential of RP Mini. It's too bad you didn't test Outrun 2006. As for Gran Turismo 3, based on my experience, OpenGL is the best renderer for it. No slowdown, no need to change hardware download mode, no graphical bug, but I capped it at 3x resolution using Odin 2 instead of 4x (using vulkan), so perhaps you can test it again for the next RP5 video?
What you should be excited for with the RP5 is Armbian. With Photon, Wine, Hangover, Fex-Emu, Box64, and Box86, we'll some PC Gaming with the ability to run both 32 and 64 bit applications.
Will be interesting to see if the 5 will perform better with the extra RAM and newer version of Android, or will it be worse because it has to push 1080p?
That's exactly what I'm thinking, that's why I hesitate between RP5 and the base Odin 2 ! I want that beautiful oled screen but enough performance too ...
It's better overall and more so depending on the game. We're also comfortably doing upscaling with quite a number of games using the SD 865. I'll say it's also much more efficient at handling PS2 emulation. It's good stuff all around! 🤗🔥
Would like to see rp5 or mini vs rp4 pro with similar settings. Most of the ps2 games I'm interested are unfortunately not on this list, being jrgps like dark cloud 2, rogue galaxy, star ocean 3, grandia 3, xenosaga, valkyrie profile 2, etc. But very nice thorough list all the same.
This is almost definetly me not fully understanding the tech here, but if PS2 runs 480p native and a 2X upscale is 960p, and 960p is the resolution of the RP Mini screen, does that make a 3X upscale pointless? Or is this just done to showcase the performance for review?
100% accurate! The ideal upscaling here would be 2X as you said. Anything beyond that is just to showcase performance and isn’t really needed on a device like the Mini. 🙏
Just ordered one but I’m worried I’ve made a mistake by not getting the 5. I don’t like black bars either side of the display which is what I didn’t like about the RP4P. Do you think I should stick to the Mini? It’s hard to visualise how big the screen is. I’ll basically be playing n64 and at the most Wii.
rp4 is 3.8 inch with 4:3 content, people are too illiterate when it comes to tech (not you retrodad ofc just morons like Brandon that hurt the hobby), luckily Joey, Russ, do the job right
Great performance, but what would we expect with the bigger rp5 model? It does have 2 extra gigs of ram, but the screen is full hd instead of Hd, so if gta 3 runs now on 3x resolution, I would think it would play max 1x or 2x for rp5 due to more pixels? Im not sure if the extra ram does much in emulation. Idk if the fan on the smaller one is the same on the rp5.
Hello, Thanks for your video. With the rp5, I have graphical bugs with kof 2002 um and kof 98 um with ps2 emulation. Do you have an idea of what I could do ? Thanks for your help
Dam, maybe i wont wait for the RP5 and just go for the RP mini, this looks like a beast already. Anything you consider the extra ram would improve for any relevant game?
Yet the Odin 2 mini can't run burnout 3/revenge without the framerate crippling after a wreck. Every option was supposed to fix it doesn't. I swear if I get my mini in and it's the same shit...
@@retrotechdad the latest builder 1.9. every time I wreck the game comes to a crawl in both games. I have it set to 3x resolution and using the settings suggested by the emulator. Tried disabling vsync, tried disabling the skip duplicate frames thing, tried overclocking, tried switching between Vulcan, and Open GL. No matter what, I wreck the frame rate cripples for a couple to a few seconds. I'm not even using compressed versions of the games either.
@@Retrohut305 this reply just breaks my heart, on pcsx2 i play darkwatch and silent hill 3 with 60 fps patches and it is godlike, it makes me so happy and @retrotechdad thanks for replying, if you could test those games that would be amazing
What's your favorite PS2 game? Should I do a Part 2 for the RP5? If yes, suggest some games! 💙💜
Zone of Enders 1 & 2
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Yessss! Zone of the Enders 2 is awesome, I featured it in my review for the Mini. 🤗
Wipeout Fusion/Pulse! Zone of Enders 2. ^_^
Could you test video out? What's the resolution? Does it stretch on the Mini?
Great vid once again, buddy!
Outstanding video! Thanks for taking the time to discuss the settings for optimizing these!
I preordered my Retroid Pocket 5 and can't wait to relive so many of my Gamecube and PS2 favorites! I'd love to see videos for both of those systems on the RP5 - Especially if you can highlight optimizations that include widescreen hacks to take advantage of the glorious 5.5" 1080p AMOLED display!
Personal favorites for that generation on PS2 and Gamecube include:
Ico
Shadow of the Colossus
Beyond Good and Evil
Okami
Rez
Psychonauts
Klonoa 2 - Lunatea's Veil
Katamari Damacy
Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2
GTA III/Vice City/San Andreas
War of the Monsters
Maximo 1 & 2
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 1 & 2
Champions of Norrath 1 & 2
Silent Hill 2/3/4
Fatal Frame 1/2/3
Devil May Cry 1 & 3
Ratchet & Clank 1/2/3
Sly Cooper 1/2/3
Downhill Domination
Midnight Club 2 & 3
Soul Calibur 2
Metroid Prime I & 2
MGS Twin Snakes
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II & III
Twilight Princess
Pikmin 1 & 2
Super Mario Sunshine
Simpsons Hit & Run
SSX Tricky
Incredible Hulk - Ultimate Destruction
Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2
Keep up the great work!
@@retrotechdad the XenoSaga games are great.
This video is brilliant. I can’t imagine how much time it took to put all this info together.
Thank you and nowhere near as bad as my RPCS3 videos. 😅😭
Really appreciate when you do videos like this, it's nice when a reviewer puts the effort in to show that these handhelds actually can do what's been claimed. And a nice twist testing the greatest hits 👍
Roetaka in the comments section! 🔥🔥 Thank you for the kind words! 🙏
I’ve watched SEVERAL videos on the RP Mini and none of them were convincing enough for me to want to make a purchase, but your video seems to have persuaded me to seriously consider it. Thank you for the very well put together video
What a massive compilation. Excellent video.
If there's anything I could criticize, I'd have preferred you put the games in alphabetical order, so if there was a game I explicitly wanted to find, I'd be able to find it easier. But the description got my back anyway
Thank you and yea I usually do these in alphabetical order, I was trying to make it a little more interesting (for myself 😅). 🙏🙏
A suggestion: Use a darker background, the white background is too bright
Ur brightness might also be the issue it rlly ain’t that bad
Maaaaan what a beautiful showcase. I'm surprised at how well Gran Turismo 3 runs on this 865, my 8 gen 1 galaxy s22 ultra couldn't run it at native resolution! Great vid dad 👏
I'd say it give it a shot again! Make sure to use NetherSX2 (4248). If you're having real issues with it, change the hardware download mode option to "disable readbacks" which should help. 🤗
Always awesome to see you in the comments!
Awesome idea for a video, great job!
Thank you, I appreciate it! 🤗
A video meant to run PS2 games on RP Mini & RP5 via NetherSX2 but ended up useful for all SD865 / SD865+ / SD870-powered devices. I may consider getting the second-hand S20+ (SD variant) / S20FE / LG V60 since that phone still has a microSD slot just to put more PS2 games without disturbing the internal storage + Bluetooth controller.
I'm glad it's useful for more than those devices specifically!
Genuinely surprised how many games ran 3x and at standard. Also a great recommendation list too. Def adding one or two after this.
Great work! Any chance of doing the same for Gamecube games?
I'd like to! Mostly worried about Nintendo games. 😭😭
@@retrotechdadYo can you sell me a copy of your SD Card you use? Looking to get the RP5 for my first hand held console. I have a modded Wii with a full 2TB hard drive (it’s huge) but zero ps1/ps2/psp/DS/3DS games. I’m pretty excited actually lmk if we can get in touch 💪🏾
Great video. Too many other youtubers only tested or reviewed RP Mini with just 2x resolution, rather than the max resolution it can handle, so it's hard to get the true potential of RP Mini.
It's too bad you didn't test Outrun 2006. As for Gran Turismo 3, based on my experience, OpenGL is the best renderer for it. No slowdown, no need to change hardware download mode, no graphical bug, but I capped it at 3x resolution using Odin 2 instead of 4x (using vulkan), so perhaps you can test it again for the next RP5 video?
You are the real MVP
Not without you! 🤗🙏
Awesome video man, congrats
Awesome vid!
Do y'all see what I'm seeing???? This is incredible thanks retro 👏👏👏👏
Great video thank you!
Wow, thank you for the epic video.
Great video thanks 😊
What you should be excited for with the RP5 is Armbian. With Photon, Wine, Hangover, Fex-Emu, Box64, and Box86, we'll some PC Gaming with the ability to run both 32 and 64 bit applications.
Excellent content, would love to see a GameCube version.
Watching this to see how pocket 5 will perform
Very awesome, I was hoping this would be useful for future RP5 owners as well! 🙏🙏
Will be interesting to see if the 5 will perform better with the extra RAM and newer version of Android, or will it be worse because it has to push 1080p?
That's exactly what I'm thinking, that's why I hesitate between RP5 and the base Odin 2 ! I want that beautiful oled screen but enough performance too ...
a lot of these also have gamecube ports that might be a better option?
For sure, just depends on the game but overall performance is really solid with the PS2 versions!
How would you say the performance compares to the 4pro ?
It's better overall and more so depending on the game. We're also comfortably doing upscaling with quite a number of games using the SD 865. I'll say it's also much more efficient at handling PS2 emulation. It's good stuff all around! 🤗🔥
Would like to see rp5 or mini vs rp4 pro with similar settings.
Most of the ps2 games I'm interested are unfortunately not on this list, being jrgps like dark cloud 2, rogue galaxy, star ocean 3, grandia 3, xenosaga, valkyrie profile 2, etc. But very nice thorough list all the same.
can you show the full settings you use as a default?
Yes please do one for the 5
Can you make video comparison between this device and the RG Cube?
This is almost definetly me not fully understanding the tech here, but if PS2 runs 480p native and a 2X upscale is 960p, and 960p is the resolution of the RP Mini screen, does that make a 3X upscale pointless? Or is this just done to showcase the performance for review?
100% accurate! The ideal upscaling here would be 2X as you said. Anything beyond that is just to showcase performance and isn’t really needed on a device like the Mini. 🙏
@@retrotechdad ahh thanks for clarifying, I can go about my day feeling a little less clueless lol
Great video. And way to hook it up to the TV ?
USB-C to HDMI cable
Just ordered one but I’m worried I’ve made a mistake by not getting the 5. I don’t like black bars either side of the display which is what I didn’t like about the RP4P. Do you think I should stick to the Mini? It’s hard to visualise how big the screen is. I’ll basically be playing n64 and at the most Wii.
The 4:3 image size on the Mini should be similar to a 4:3 image displayed on the RP4 Pro, that might help visualize it better?
@@retrotechdad yeah it does thanks!
Get the 5 or you will regret it. Most retro 3D games can be hacked to work on widescreen with great quality.
rp4 is 3.8 inch with 4:3 content, people are too illiterate when it comes to tech (not you retrodad ofc just morons like Brandon that hurt the hobby), luckily Joey, Russ, do the job right
Great performance, but what would we expect with the bigger rp5 model? It does have 2 extra gigs of ram, but the screen is full hd instead of Hd, so if gta 3 runs now on 3x resolution, I would think it would play max 1x or 2x for rp5 due to more pixels? Im not sure if the extra ram does much in emulation. Idk if the fan on the smaller one is the same on the rp5.
I wonder if the better performance is due to the fact the game is been rendered at 4:3
Has Ace Combat fixed the 'black jet' glitch yet in 3rd person view
Hello,
Thanks for your video.
With the rp5, I have graphical bugs with kof 2002 um and kof 98 um with ps2 emulation.
Do you have an idea of what I could do ?
Thanks for your help
Dam, maybe i wont wait for the RP5 and just go for the RP mini, this looks like a beast already.
Anything you consider the extra ram would improve for any relevant game?
Just wait for the rp5 it's going to be worth it!
I'ma subscribe thank u
why not just run everything at high performance? To save battery?
Thanks,
There's really no need, it doesn't provide much benefit here. 🙏
@@retrotechdad IDK why I was thinking this was the rp4p, my bad. I will be getting the 5 then. Running better..
Is it that noticeable betwen 1x, 2x and 3x on this screen size?
Is this more powerful than the RP4Pro?
Yes!! Big time
Yet the Odin 2 mini can't run burnout 3/revenge without the framerate crippling after a wreck. Every option was supposed to fix it doesn't. I swear if I get my mini in and it's the same shit...
That doesn't make any sense, those two games run very well with the Odin 2 Mini. Which version of Aether/Nether are you using?
@@retrotechdad the latest builder 1.9. every time I wreck the game comes to a crawl in both games. I have it set to 3x resolution and using the settings suggested by the emulator. Tried disabling vsync, tried disabling the skip duplicate frames thing, tried overclocking, tried switching between Vulcan, and Open GL. No matter what, I wreck the frame rate cripples for a couple to a few seconds. I'm not even using compressed versions of the games either.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271did you try to change your rom file ? We never know.
@@TheViandeSechee the ISO is fine. No issues on my PC
I wonder why Soul Calibur was never crossed with Tekken.
The shaders on Okami don't look quite right tbh. Not the fault of the device im sure
Simpson Hit and Run for PS2
Awwwwwwwwwwwwe yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
LET'S GOOO!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Says he won't do sports games. NBA Street !!!! While not yearly it sure was pushed out as much as they could
I feel much better it can play nba street vol2
Yes, just make sure to switch that one specifically over to OpenGL! 🙏🤗
Does all PS2 games run smoothly on this device.
most should, sadly no one tests games with 60 fps cheats for some reason, id rather play at 1x with 60 fps than 2x or 3x 30
Mostly, it really comes down to limitations of the emulator itself.
That's pretty funny I tested Bully with the 60 fps cheat and then decided to just keep things simple.
@@agamaz5650 I didn't even know that was possible.
@@Retrohut305 this reply just breaks my heart, on pcsx2 i play darkwatch and silent hill 3 with 60 fps patches and it is godlike, it makes me so happy and @retrotechdad thanks for replying, if you could test those games that would be amazing
damn it all I cared was about the sports tittles.
i hate how the CAD dollar is tanking. THis is almost 400 CAD i cant justify buying this :(
If this gets android 13. I'll pick it up.
The rp5 will have android 13
@rottentomatoes5171 rp5 is too big, need something more pocketable
Iirc it will get android 13 soon
TIL people have a problem with pal versions, odd indeed
If it runs GOW it will run most ok😂😂😂 I'm gonna need mine
Try manhunt
As usual thanks for the in depth showcase. Im gonna reiterate that I'm so excited for my rp5 🙂
Good afternoon bring onimusha 3 this game don`t have a performance good in rp4pro , have parts with slow in underground city.
it solded better on ps2 since xbox did't sell much.
Crapping on us sports gamers 😟
Still plenty of sports games like NBA Street and SSX!