Best solution is as you wear out the stock shocks, save for Bilstein B8 which work well with lowered springs and should last a long while being monotube dampers
People honestly need to do more than just springs. It's well documented that your chances of issues are MUCH greater with springs only. Specially if it's a daily, you drive spiritedly, weekend track warrior, or your area has shitty roads. If you really do love and care for your car, you should save the extra bit of money and just get a cup kit or coil over kit. Sure, you might get lucky like you have. But you're in the minority regarding not having issues. I wanted to do springs only for my MKV once upon a time. But my group whom a majority drive tuned GTIs and Rs both on and off the track talked me into saving the extra 600 for an H&R Sport Cup kit. It added maybe a month of waiting for the new addition to the car. Which was the best thing I could have done. I've put over 120k on this cup kit and it's like new. Doubt many with stock shocks and struts with a semi aggressive to aggressive spring only drop can drive that long on those factory shocks and struts without them going out. I mean, I'm sure there are people out there. But that's still a minority to the people who broke their shit. You don't have to get the absolute top of the line system. I wouldn't recommend bottom of the barrel shit either like Raceland or anything. But there are options for many in the middle. If a cup kit does not exist, you can piece together your own for the same cost give or take. You don't have to go out and drop 2-3k or more just to not have springs only. In the end. It's your car and choice. Do what you want and believe what you feel is best. I'm not gonna call people who do springs only on a tuned car stupid for their decision. I'm not them, so who am I to say? I'm just urging people to go out and comb the forums and local groups to see if springs only is the right choice for you. If you're fine with the added chance of issues. Power to ya. Building and tuning cars is pay to play though. Never skimp out.
The eibach springs and the vwr springs both have the same drop of 25/20mm but the vwr springs are more pricey. I also hear that eibach was manufacturing lowering springs for vwr, so would be interested to see the difference between both of the 2 lowering springs and see what the differences are in terms of how harsh or soft they feel on the road
Thanks for the video! I have a ‘18 GTI with the Eibach Pro Kit springs on stock struts. Had them installed less than a month after buying the car in August of this year. I figured that I’d get at least 75k miles before the ride quality goes, but it’s tough to know since it degrades so gradually.
Great video! Personally- anything you do to cars whether it be lowering springs or a turbo I'd bite the bullet and splurge for the supporting mods. Subscribed! Keep up the good videos on your channel!
Lowering springs on stock strut/shocks will essentially shorten their lifespan or outright kill them. A mild drop might not do much damage immediately if at all, but the lower those drop heights are the faster that ticking time-bomb ticks. . . People act like they can't save a buck, spending it now, or later still equates to spending, the difference is doing it right once so you can tinker with other stuff, like painting your calipers red for that extra 10HP, lmao..
Awesome man I watched your other eibach spring video, I bought them and had them installed and just picked up my car today, also went with the euro tuning flush kit, the whole set up looks great and rides really well, i have a 2018 MK 7.5 GTI.
@@RickyJnum1FAN that may be why you have a stiff ride. The stock struts are not designed for the lowering springs. I noticed a big change in ride quality when I used struts/shocks engineering for lowering springs.
@@brianjburrows8967 That's why I want to get the H&R OE springs, I feel those would work best with the factory dampers. I also have DCC so isn't it a waster to get rid of those shocks for static ones?
glad you put this up man, I have a '15 GTI 2 dr with around 36k and I'm thinking about doing springs for the price. I was worried about all the stuff online but this is reassuring.
I'm doing this today on a Honda fit. Hopefully I made the rite decision. It's only a 1.5 inch drop on d2 racing springs.. edit, my fit only has 11k miles on it... I think I'll be just fine.
I have the Eibach pro-kit on a 2016 Sportwagen, and after 5k km, I agree with you that the ride quality is really decent. Little squeeks here and there at low speed, especially with cold weather, but nothing that sounds annoying to me.
I have the eibach spring with the struts on my car. It drives really bad over bumps and bumpy roads what kind of struts are you using . At 57 years old I like hot ride but I do not want a bumpy harsh ride. What struts do you use . when you lower your car is there’s nothing you can do to get a stock ride when lowered
Using Lowering Springs with Stock Ride height struts/shocks only ADDs lowering of the vehicle's center of gravity. The part that is detracted are the further travel down of the struts/springs by that (on avg 1"). Advantages: Accelerating & Braking / Disadvantages: decreased cornering and ride quality.
What if I bought brand new OEM suspension and put lowering springs on them before I even put them on the car? Brand new never been on a car before vs putting lowering springs on shocks with like over 100k
Glad to hear an update because i was curious about this. I called a place to ask what they would charge to install lowering springs, he said you dont want to do that, youll be replacing control arms and all this other shit and then quoted me 7 or 800 to do it. Glad to hear thats bullshit.
I have a toyota camry 2018 i want to go on lower springs but im worried that i will come up with issues or damage something and it will cost more any sugestions
My car has 178,000 km (110,000 miles).. is it worth just doing the eibach pro kit springs alone? Or would you recommend new shocks/struts or coilovers? Thanks!
thanks man, I've been looking into lowering springs, but my friends say it's a bad idea and save up for coilovers, but as a college student I won't be able to afford it. thanks for the help
you don't need 2k for a daily driver...there's ton of decent options under $1000,i have God speed mono max and they're better than most for $850 for a daily.i'll never do springs again only....waste of money.Do it right the first time.trust me.if you know proper handling,lowering springs on stock shocks is a no go.
A coilover typically comes in a package where the sleeve is sitting on top of the shock itself with a spring. A decent set of coilovers will run you about $1500. Now, they do sell coilover sleeves with a spring on their own. This way you can choose what shock you run, but if you use ground control sleeves on stock shocks the ride might be shitty. They GC's will also blow out the stock shocks. You need a shock that will be able to handle the springrate of those ground controls, like the Koni Yellow. Choosing a coilover sleeve/shock combo that's quality will perform way better than a coilover brand like ksport, or bc. It's usually more expensive though. If you're just doing spirited driving on the streets, a good shock and something like h&r springs is going to ride great and not be that expensive.
i have a 2006 Acura TSX on stock suspension. I want to get TruHart lowering springs because i only want the car lowered 1-2 inches and am not slamming it or getting camber. Any feedback or suggestions?
I’m late on this comment. But I have my car in this same setup stock shocks with eibach sport springs and about 8 months ago I was going downtown (Toronto Canada) I hit a massive pothole and hit my plastic pan and left all my oil on the stormy snow ridden roads. Ended up putting in and got an aluminum oil pan. Mainly because no steels was available at the time. If you haven’t upgraded pans my whole point is upgrade lol.
@@Russellscottx I'm very half half. I've had the car for 1 year and put 250miles on it. Using it a lot more now and love it, it's a good daily from my E93 M3 DCT LCI. However, I may change the GTI for a RS5 or should I just have fun and drop it, clubsport kit and remap and catless exhaust.... hmmm. Anyways good video and a good insight to what I will be doing potentially...
True but that takes a lot of up front capital...The $70 for less than an hour of work is more than I make at my job so not to much of a waste of time to me.
Stock clutch on stage 2, stock struts on springs for 40k miles, survived crashes, you must have gotten the “terminator package”
Best solution is as you wear out the stock shocks, save for Bilstein B8 which work well with lowered springs and should last a long while being monotube dampers
exactly. stock struts would go bad eventually anyway, just replace them when they feel like a bouncy pos
I drove a MK5 for 10 years with Eibach Sports and had 0 issues with stock struts.
People honestly need to do more than just springs. It's well documented that your chances of issues are MUCH greater with springs only. Specially if it's a daily, you drive spiritedly, weekend track warrior, or your area has shitty roads. If you really do love and care for your car, you should save the extra bit of money and just get a cup kit or coil over kit.
Sure, you might get lucky like you have. But you're in the minority regarding not having issues.
I wanted to do springs only for my MKV once upon a time. But my group whom a majority drive tuned GTIs and Rs both on and off the track talked me into saving the extra 600 for an H&R Sport Cup kit. It added maybe a month of waiting for the new addition to the car. Which was the best thing I could have done. I've put over 120k on this cup kit and it's like new. Doubt many with stock shocks and struts with a semi aggressive to aggressive spring only drop can drive that long on those factory shocks and struts without them going out. I mean, I'm sure there are people out there. But that's still a minority to the people who broke their shit.
You don't have to get the absolute top of the line system. I wouldn't recommend bottom of the barrel shit either like Raceland or anything. But there are options for many in the middle. If a cup kit does not exist, you can piece together your own for the same cost give or take. You don't have to go out and drop 2-3k or more just to not have springs only.
In the end. It's your car and choice. Do what you want and believe what you feel is best. I'm not gonna call people who do springs only on a tuned car stupid for their decision. I'm not them, so who am I to say? I'm just urging people to go out and comb the forums and local groups to see if springs only is the right choice for you. If you're fine with the added chance of issues. Power to ya. Building and tuning cars is pay to play though. Never skimp out.
The eibach springs and the vwr springs both have the same drop of 25/20mm but the vwr springs are more pricey. I also hear that eibach was manufacturing lowering springs for vwr, so would be interested to see the difference between both of the 2 lowering springs and see what the differences are in terms of how harsh or soft they feel on the road
Thanks for the video! I have a ‘18 GTI with the Eibach Pro Kit springs on stock struts. Had them installed less than a month after buying the car in August of this year. I figured that I’d get at least 75k miles before the ride quality goes, but it’s tough to know since it degrades so gradually.
I'd be happy with 75K! Thanks for watching!
@@Russellscottx just hit 77k on my 2015 mk7 and suspension/steering is still great with stock suspension so expect them to last wayyy longer
@@iiVzBuRa how is it now
Great video! Personally- anything you do to cars whether it be lowering springs or a turbo I'd bite the bullet and splurge for the supporting mods. Subscribed! Keep up the good videos on your channel!
Is the Tein S Tech lowering springs any good with stock struts?
Lowering springs on stock strut/shocks will essentially shorten their lifespan or outright kill them. A mild drop might not do much damage immediately if at all, but the lower those drop heights are the faster that ticking time-bomb ticks. . . People act like they can't save a buck, spending it now, or later still equates to spending, the difference is doing it right once so you can tinker with other stuff, like painting your calipers red for that extra 10HP, lmao..
Awesome man I watched your other eibach spring video, I bought them and had them installed and just picked up my car today, also went with the euro tuning flush kit, the whole set up looks great and rides really well, i have a 2018 MK 7.5 GTI.
Hows this setup working for you? i have a 2019 mk7.5 and want to do the same.
please dont put lowering springs on stock struts on a car with 100k beacuse the struts will be blown
Sound like you have experience lmao
No.
Truhart lowering springs or D2 lowering springs? Please suggest
I have a 8th gen Civic
I was running 034 springs with stock struts/ shocks. Changed to RacingLine struts/shocks with H&R springs, rides so much better.
Im planning on getting H&R OE Springs on my 7.5 GTI w DCC, I have Neuspeed sport springs and its just too stiff
@@RickyJnum1FAN are you running stock struts/shocks?
@@brianjburrows8967 yeah
@@RickyJnum1FAN that may be why you have a stiff ride. The stock struts are not designed for the lowering springs. I noticed a big change in ride quality when I used struts/shocks engineering for lowering springs.
@@brianjburrows8967 That's why I want to get the H&R OE springs, I feel those would work best with the factory dampers. I also have DCC so isn't it a waster to get rid of those shocks for static ones?
“Hardly ever get on my car that much” 😂😂😂😂😂 *Shows video of giving a Stang the beans 😂😂😂
glad you put this up man, I have a '15 GTI 2 dr with around 36k and I'm thinking about doing springs for the price. I was worried about all the stuff online but this is reassuring.
Happy to help man!
I'm doing this today on a Honda fit. Hopefully I made the rite decision. It's only a 1.5 inch drop on d2 racing springs.. edit, my fit only has 11k miles on it... I think I'll be just fine.
Any updates? How is it going ?
Do me a favor and blow that car up
I have the Eibach pro-kit on a 2016 Sportwagen, and after 5k km, I agree with you that the ride quality is really decent. Little squeeks here and there at low speed, especially with cold weather, but nothing that sounds annoying to me.
Cool cool my man! Thanks for watching!
I have the eibach spring with the struts on my car. It drives really bad over bumps and bumpy roads what kind of struts are you using . At 57 years old I like hot ride but I do not want a bumpy harsh ride. What struts do you use . when you lower your car is there’s nothing you can do to get a stock ride when lowered
Using Lowering Springs with Stock Ride height struts/shocks only ADDs lowering of the vehicle's center of gravity. The part that is detracted are the further travel down of the struts/springs by that (on avg 1"). Advantages: Accelerating & Braking / Disadvantages: decreased cornering and ride quality.
Let’s go Mountaineers!!!
What Tire size are you running and how low did you drop the car?
What if I bought brand new OEM suspension and put lowering springs on them before I even put them on the car? Brand new never been on a car before vs putting lowering springs on shocks with like over 100k
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Wtf is the stock shocks good for lower springs??? Still waiting
Glad to hear an update because i was curious about this. I called a place to ask what they would charge to install lowering springs, he said you dont want to do that, youll be replacing control arms and all this other shit and then quoted me 7 or 800 to do it.
Glad to hear thats bullshit.
Yeah that’s a bunch of bs...he probably just didn’t want to do the job then quoted you a high price so you wouldn’t do it...
This guy waffles like hell!
Is that good or bad 😂😂
@@Russellscottx lol... Naah don't mind long vids you were just all over the place. But ja its unfair to judge an old vid. Stay safe.👍
I have a toyota camry 2018 i want to go on lower springs but im worried that i will come up with issues or damage something and it will cost more any sugestions
What kind of wheels u got
My car has 178,000 km (110,000 miles).. is it worth just doing the eibach pro kit springs alone? Or would you recommend new shocks/struts or coilovers? Thanks!
Get a whole new system in, your suspension has been through 110k miles of beatings, putting any sort of stress on old suspension is risky
What tires are you running?
What about the creaks or squeeks? Have you encountered any in the winter or rainy days?
Maybe a little here and there nothing too bad though!
been running my Eibach Sports on Audi A4 for about 15k miles, no issues whatsoever!
Can you do an update on this?
Hey man. What's the wheel set up besides the springs?
18x8 +32 235/40/18
Thanks man. Love how it looks.
I'm debating between 19s or 18s with a drop.
thanks man, I've been looking into lowering springs, but my friends say it's a bad idea and save up for coilovers, but as a college student I won't be able to afford it. thanks for the help
My springs sit exactly where I would set the coilovers at! Unless you're racing I don't think they're a necessity! $250 vs $2k no brainer!
you don't need 2k for a daily driver...there's ton of decent options under $1000,i have God speed mono max and they're better than most for $850 for a daily.i'll never do springs again only....waste of money.Do it right the first time.trust me.if you know proper handling,lowering springs on stock shocks is a no go.
LUKE FUK UR FRIEND DO WHAT YOU WANT MATE
With coilovers do they also damage struts n shocks in the long run? New to this whole car scene lmao still lots of learning to do
A coilover typically comes in a package where the sleeve is sitting on top of the shock itself with a spring. A decent set of coilovers will run you about $1500.
Now, they do sell coilover sleeves with a spring on their own. This way you can choose what shock you run, but if you use ground control sleeves on stock shocks the ride might be shitty. They GC's will also blow out the stock shocks. You need a shock that will be able to handle the springrate of those ground controls, like the Koni Yellow.
Choosing a coilover sleeve/shock combo that's quality will perform way better than a coilover brand like ksport, or bc. It's usually more expensive though.
If you're just doing spirited driving on the streets, a good shock and something like h&r springs is going to ride great and not be that expensive.
@@red2g forsure man thanks so much for breaking it down for me I appreciate it 💯
i have a 2006 Acura TSX on stock suspension. I want to get TruHart lowering springs because i only want the car lowered 1-2 inches and am not slamming it or getting camber. Any feedback or suggestions?
1-2 inches is a good height, gets rid of the stock 4x4 look, if they have good reviews I’d say go for it!
Lol so I’m watching the video and then realize your driving downtown grove city 😆
I liked the APR chart....
Thank you haha
Aren’t you mad our GTIs don’t come in a 2dr option
Lol they're cool but i think I like my 4door more :X
Dope video Russ👍🏿
Did you get a steel oil pan? Im about to install the sportlines and worried about cracking the plastic oil pan on a bump or road debris.
I’m late on this comment. But I have my car in this same setup stock shocks with eibach sport springs and about 8 months ago I was going downtown (Toronto Canada) I hit a massive pothole and hit my plastic pan and left all my oil on the stormy snow ridden roads. Ended up putting in and got an aluminum oil pan. Mainly because no steels was available at the time. If you haven’t upgraded pans my whole point is upgrade lol.
You're saying stock struts, does your car have DCC? Thinking about changing my '16 GTI PP which has 20k on the clock to Eibach Sportline...
My car does not have the dcc! Drop her down it’s overdue
@@Russellscottx I'm very half half. I've had the car for 1 year and put 250miles on it. Using it a lot more now and love it, it's a good daily from my E93 M3 DCT LCI. However, I may change the GTI for a RS5 or should I just have fun and drop it, clubsport kit and remap and catless exhaust.... hmmm. Anyways good video and a good insight to what I will be doing potentially...
MK8 Golf R!!!!!!!!! GID IT
Whta about the kw springs
We need a point of view drive In your gti man nice vid btw
The people have spoken! lol I'll make one soon maybe some other people wanna see one too.
@@Russellscottx your gti videos are why i come back!
@@greyanderson1263 Appreciate it!
will those spring you have fit a mk7 golf r?
I believe so but I would double check what eibach says!
@@Russellscottx appreciate it man
Should I save up for coil overs or lowering springs?
Depends how much you want to spend.
Is it a daily just get raceland coilovers
If you want it lowered but not slammed then springs will probably work
hahahaha those comments on the APR pic
#where'sTeddy
Dude your collar! It keeps falling down wtf
What's with the apr dyno in the background?
Did you watch the whole video????
@@Russellscottx nah I thought I had guess i made little over half
GC, PA...Waaaaaaa
Flipping cameras is a waste of time you need to think bigger. Flipping houses would be the most obvious and potentially the most profitable
True but that takes a lot of up front capital...The $70 for less than an hour of work is more than I make at my job so not to much of a waste of time to me.
MedicMagic okay money no investment???? Got it gigolo
8 min. long opinion...
you dont get my subscribe because all you do is talk no action