Thanks Dave, I just got your book: Bush Craft 101 for Christmas. It's Full of great and useful information for anyone who likes the outdoors and other stuff that you should just know before you go into the woods. Appreciate what you do!
I find that when I wanted to start a fire in the woods on a damp rainy day, it's good to use the cardboard cylinder from toliet paper or paper towels. I'd fill it with char cloth and pine sap and dry wood scraps left over from splitting firewood. This is the way to go since I'm using things that are left over from common use. The pine sap is a real game changer but the combination is ideal for starting the first small bed of coals.
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧. Just started getting a skill set for outdoors. I am going to get a black powder rifle and started watching for advice on black powder. But what you have just explained is amazing to me. I've got so much to learn. I'm really looking forward to learning more in 2024
Great instructional video. 👍🏼👍🏼 As usual. I’ve been using flint and steel since 1967, and only recently (3 years ago) learned about rub cloth. Rub cloth can dry out if it gets wet. Char cloth pretty much disintegrates when it gets wet. My favorite part of using rub cloth is when you use it, it smells like firecrackers! 🔥 💥
Thanks for another useful tip! I have a can of 4F that doesn't get used up nearly as fast as the FF. I'm pretty sure it would work well for rub cloth. A spark off the frizzen should be plenty to get it going. Obviously, if you had a tinder bag with flint and steel you wouldn't want to put another strike on a good rifle flint.
That's very nice to know Dave! A heck of alot better than char cloth. Rub cloth is definitely something I'm gonna use in my fire kit, but not all the time due to the price of black powder.
I made rub cloth on accident really. I was cleaning up the mess with a piece of t shirt. And it turned black. I threw it in my fire pit and piled some dry material on top of it. Lit it. Works great. Agree it’s better than char cloth. When your trying to get a fire going especially when shit is wet all around you I want instant flame. The hotter the better
Interesting Dave. I bet you could do the same thing with acetone and smokeless powder, but then it would probably also be waterproof. Smokeless powder with a fast burn rate like for a handgun or shotgun would likely be best.
That’s definitely a good emergency fire starter to pair with flint and steel. I have a big problem with making tinder that will catch from an ember. I even have a hard time with fat wood shavings. Though I only use a little pile to try and light the fatwood splinters. I just got to where I can strike the flint in my hand 😂 now I have this problem
I would hazard a guess that instead of using black powder, you could probably just use potassium nitrate to activate your cloth. I have made fuses just by rolling wet potassium nitrate in paper, and it made a passable fuse. The black powder would work better in solar applications because the black color would absorb the solar energy better.
3:01 I use the tiniest pill container (1/3rd the size of the others in my EDC PSK) and in it I keep one piece of char cloth that’s 2” square. It was made from 100% cotton cargo pants a few years ago, so it’s good thick char cloth. Thoroughly charred. Anyone who says char cloth “is arcane” doesn’t understand the full profundity of fire and how it sits right under “cutting tool” in the original 5C’s. Any type of emergency camp, survival situation or austere bivouac it’s imperative to have water, fire, a knife, cover & thermoregulation. Aside from traumatic injuries, if you’ve got those you’re 99% gonna make it. Carry a Bic? Absolutely. Carry two. Carry a ferro rod? Yes. But the ability to find a quartzite rock and knock fire together with your knife? Is imperative.
Ive set off what your calling rub cloth with a high candlewatt power flash light a few times too... Usually if it makes steam off the lense in heavy rain, its got enough to light holy black.
It's funny, I've never heard the tern "rub cloth" before but my grandfather showed me how to make it using rubbing alcohol. I still have the sucrets tin he kept it in.
Laugh, initially thought you had made an mistake with the sample size, so I actually backed up a couple of feet before you hit that rub cloth with the ferro rod!
That's interesting to know, I'm not sure how practical it is. Not only do you have to make your own gunpowder but you use a lot of it to make the Rub cloth to begin with. Seems to me like you could just use the same amount of gunpowder, Still in the powder form, like when people cut open a bullet and pour the gunpowder out to start a Fire.. It seems like you have to put a lot of time and resources into it. I'm just wondering why you wouldn't carry long burning weather proof matches. This method seems a little exotic. . I mean yes certainly it works. It's a cool trick. I just don't see the practicality. I mean theoretically a lot of things work. You could take household chemicals in the right proportions, And mix Them together and It would make a fire too. But are you really going to do that? I never have been a fan of char cloth. Considering there's so many things in nature that burns that you can make into char without having to carry around an outside resource like the cloth. I'm pretty sure the old timers did not use char cloth. Cloth was pretty dear back then. These guys used to wear clothes until they would fall off of them and then use them as rags until they got too bad for that and then they would use them to clean their guns and wadding. The number one rule with anything is simplicity. If I remember correctly it was only rich people who would make char cloth. And only in the latter part of the 19th century. Now A lot of people in the Bush crafting is fascinated with it and doing it because it is the big fad going on. Just like there for a while everyone was all into bow drills. and friction fires. It seems to me like your best option is whatever works, And whatever you have. I guess if you were really into the crap, And all you had left was Cloth material, It might come handy in a pinch but I don't really see people using it very much otherwise unless they want to do it to show off or something. I mean they can use steel wool too but pretty sure people aren't going to be carrying extra steel wool around just for that particular purpose. Not when there are easier more reliable ways to start a fire. I mean I might be wrong that's just my opinion. In this world a lot of what is done is monkey see monkey do. So maybe this is a big popular thing right now. Until they figure out some other way to start a fire not commonly used. I guess you could carry around lighter fluid or gasoline, If you don't mind singed eyebrows. I mean you could carry it in a little plastic bottle. And only use a little bit at a time... that would sure start a fire.
If you make your own powder as stated not hard to use some dust that would probably be wasted anyway, cloth is easy now adays and as far as just use a bullet you then don’t have the advantage of the immediacy of the smoldering cloth to add heat to the bundle if combustion is not immediate.
Also remember this technique could be taken from a shell you already loaded and made without a fire to char the materials. Just another tool for the brain box for things you might already have with you if it come down to it
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Thanks Dave, I just got your book: Bush Craft 101 for Christmas. It's Full of great and useful information for anyone who likes the outdoors and other stuff that you should just know before you go into the woods. Appreciate what you do!
Thanks Dave, enjoying the long hunter reboot as well as the older videos.
Love that you're revisiting the 21st Century Longhunter series.
This is such a great idea for a series, always wanted to get into primitive black powder systems and this is the best I've seen!
I find that when I wanted to start a fire in the woods on a damp rainy day, it's good to use the cardboard cylinder from toliet paper or paper towels. I'd fill it with char cloth and pine sap and dry wood scraps left over from splitting firewood. This is the way to go since I'm using things that are left over from common use. The pine sap is a real game changer but the combination is ideal for starting the first small bed of coals.
This was also a good time to review that black powder is not just for use in firearms.
Hi from the UK 🇬🇧. Just started getting a skill set for outdoors. I am going to get a black powder rifle and started watching for advice on black powder. But what you have just explained is amazing to me. I've got so much to learn. I'm really looking forward to learning more in 2024
Great instructional video. 👍🏼👍🏼
As usual.
I’ve been using flint and steel since 1967, and only recently (3 years ago) learned about rub cloth.
Rub cloth can dry out if it gets wet. Char cloth pretty much disintegrates when it gets wet.
My favorite part of using rub cloth is when you use it, it smells like firecrackers! 🔥 💥
This is a great video. I especially liked that. It didn’t light immediately, but showed the value of the additional ember caused by rub cloth.
Thanks, Dave. I will keep with charcloth, though, as black powder is not something I can freely buy where Im at 😅
Thank you Dave. What a great demonstration of the different methods. Greetings, Christian
Thanks for another useful tip! I have a can of 4F that doesn't get used up nearly as fast as the FF. I'm pretty sure it would work well for rub cloth. A spark off the frizzen should be plenty to get it going. Obviously, if you had a tinder bag with flint and steel you wouldn't want to put another strike on a good rifle flint.
That's kinda like we made flash paper , but we'd soak ordinary typewriter paper in alcohol and pot nitrate let it dry and whoosh at a little spark
Very relaxing video with the rain in the background... Good vid! Thanks.
Perfecting the art of true survival skills!!
That's very nice to know Dave! A heck of alot better than char cloth. Rub cloth is definitely something I'm gonna use in my fire kit, but not all the time due to the price of black powder.
I made rub cloth on accident really. I was cleaning up the mess with a piece of t shirt. And it turned black. I threw it in my fire pit and piled some dry material on top of it. Lit it. Works great. Agree it’s better than char cloth. When your trying to get a fire going especially when shit is wet all around you I want instant flame. The hotter the better
Your videos are amazing a lot of what you cover I already know but I love watching it's never to late to learn something new
Thanks Dave, great idea! I'll be making some of these.
Interesting Dave. I bet you could do the same thing with acetone and smokeless powder, but then it would probably also be waterproof. Smokeless powder with a fast burn rate like for a handgun or shotgun would likely be best.
That’s definitely a good emergency fire starter to pair with flint and steel. I have a big problem with making tinder that will catch from an ember. I even have a hard time with fat wood shavings. Though I only use a little pile to try and light the fatwood splinters. I just got to where I can strike the flint in my hand 😂 now I have this problem
I've never heard of Rub Cloth before today! EDUCATION has occurred!
I would hazard a guess that instead of using black powder, you could probably just use potassium nitrate to activate your cloth. I have made fuses just by rolling wet potassium nitrate in paper, and it made a passable fuse. The black powder would work better in solar applications because the black color would absorb the solar energy better.
Awesome demonstration! Thank you!
a good reboot of all your classics Dave would be a very good thing ...''' !!! Cheers ! ... ( which would be extensive ) ....''''
3:01 I use the tiniest pill container (1/3rd the size of the others in my EDC PSK) and in it I keep one piece of char cloth that’s 2” square. It was made from 100% cotton cargo pants a few years ago, so it’s good thick char cloth. Thoroughly charred. Anyone who says char cloth “is arcane” doesn’t understand the full profundity of fire and how it sits right under “cutting tool” in the original 5C’s. Any type of emergency camp, survival situation or austere bivouac it’s imperative to have water, fire, a knife, cover & thermoregulation. Aside from traumatic injuries, if you’ve got those you’re 99% gonna make it. Carry a Bic? Absolutely. Carry two. Carry a ferro rod? Yes. But the ability to find a quartzite rock and knock fire together with your knife? Is imperative.
Always learning on this channel.
Glad to see you cranking out content .....you look and seem happier.
Ive set off what your calling rub cloth with a high candlewatt power flash light a few times too... Usually if it makes steam off the lense in heavy rain, its got enough to light holy black.
It's funny, I've never heard the tern "rub cloth" before but my grandfather showed me how to make it using rubbing alcohol. I still have the sucrets tin he kept it in.
this is the first time ive ever seen rub cloth i think its pretty cool
Dave,
I remember an earlier video that you made on making rub cloth, I tried it, it is an awesome way to start a fire…ty
i love char cloth I have a few of them ready to go
Great video and thanks again for all the great info. Have a safe and happy holiday.
Very interesting, I’ve never until now but I’ve never heard of this. #Rubcloth 🔥🔥🔥
Laugh, initially thought you had made an mistake with the sample size, so I actually backed up a couple of feet before you hit that rub cloth with the ferro rod!
Wow you are very man of forest. Waoh
Thanks Dave
Anybody else notice Dave does not talk about liking and subscribing in every video like MOST? When you record legit content you don't have to sell it!
Great video. I've never heard of rub cloth. Another fire starting option. I'll stick with the char cloth, if it works, don't fix it 😊
Now I have to try making some!
Ever split a log with powder. The Dutch use it when the log is too big to go on the mill.
Thanks Dave! You’re the best! 🎉
Basically a flash tinder on steroids.
Good to see you again!!!
Looks good dave think I'll make some.
That's Fascinating - Thanks ! !
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Happy new year, Dave 🎉
Thanks, Dave. One question; could you also use the 91% Isopropyl as the wetting agent instead of water, for faster drying?
Absolutely
Good stuff. Thank you.
Have you ever given a tour of the pathfinder school? Like all your buildings and whatnot…
Thanks.
Love this series!
Would the powder from fire crackers such as a black cat work? I have seen someone crush up sparklers for use with a ferrol rod as well.
Thank you
sharing
Great video
Awesome info
Thanks. Looks good.
Also like your bead.
That's how I try to keep mine too..
Do you damp the cloth with water or isopropyl?
Thank you sir!!!
Can you demonstrate using rub cloth with flint and steel?
Good Lord this is interesting!
nice
Thank You ❤
can you make a rub cloth with potassium promaganate and then drop glycerin on it to ignite?
Going to do a 21st century longhunter overnight series? You have 4500 acres, so I'm sure you could do some interesting content.
Great stuff!
So do you have to use the whole piece of run cloth, or can you cut it up smaller like char cloth?
I wonder if you could us Pyrodex instead of black powder?
That's awesome!!!
That was so cool! Can I just go buy black powder to make rub cloth or do I need to grind it into dust first?
Cool video
Where can I get that double lid char tin?
How do you store rub cloth? I’m assuming it’s a bit volatile.
Kaboooooooooooommmmm! 😂
That's interesting to know, I'm not sure how practical it is. Not only do you have to make your own gunpowder but you use a lot of it to make the Rub cloth to begin with. Seems to me like you could just use the same amount of gunpowder, Still in the powder form, like when people cut open a bullet and pour the gunpowder out to start a Fire..
It seems like you have to put a lot of time and resources into it. I'm just wondering why you wouldn't carry long burning weather proof matches. This method seems a little exotic. . I mean yes certainly it works. It's a cool trick. I just don't see the practicality. I mean theoretically a lot of things work. You could take household chemicals in the right proportions, And mix Them together and It would make a fire too. But are you really going to do that?
I never have been a fan of char cloth. Considering there's so many things in nature that burns that you can make into char without having to carry around an outside resource like the cloth. I'm pretty sure the old timers did not use char cloth. Cloth was pretty dear back then. These guys used to wear clothes until they would fall off of them and then use them as rags until they got too bad for that and then they would use them to clean their guns and wadding. The number one rule with anything is simplicity. If I remember correctly it was only rich people who would make char cloth. And only in the latter part of the 19th century.
Now A lot of people in the Bush crafting is fascinated with it and doing it because it is the big fad going on. Just like there for a while everyone was all into bow drills. and friction fires.
It seems to me like your best option is whatever works, And whatever you have. I guess if you were really into the crap, And all you had left was Cloth material, It might come handy in a pinch but I don't really see people using it very much otherwise unless they want to do it to show off or something. I mean they can use steel wool too but pretty sure people aren't going to be carrying extra steel wool around just for that particular purpose. Not when there are easier more reliable ways to start a fire.
I mean I might be wrong that's just my opinion. In this world a lot of what is done is monkey see monkey do. So maybe this is a big popular thing right now. Until they figure out some other way to start a fire not commonly used. I guess you could carry around lighter fluid or gasoline, If you don't mind singed eyebrows. I mean you could carry it in a little plastic bottle. And only use a little bit at a time... that would sure start a fire.
If you make your own powder as stated not hard to use some dust that would probably be wasted anyway, cloth is easy now adays and as far as just use a bullet you then don’t have the advantage of the immediacy of the smoldering cloth to add heat to the bundle if combustion is not immediate.
Also remember this technique could be taken from a shell you already loaded and made without a fire to char the materials. Just another tool for the brain box for things you might already have with you if it come down to it
Thanks Dave