The 10c’s Doesn’t Work? Dave Canterbury's mentality on the subject Bushcraft 101
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- The 10c’s Doesn’t Work? Dave Canterbury's mentality on the subject Bushcraft 101
The 10c’s Doesn’t Work?
Exploring the actual Theory of the 10c’s
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Dave, I know where this came from no need to defend, justify or revisit. There are hundreds of thousands of folks who have empowered themselves by studying, practicing and adapting your teachings to their environments --some are alive because of it. Thank you for sharing the knowledge and teaching how to use it.
I am just shy of my 66th birthday. Today, in the mail I received my pathfinder canteen cooking kit and Flint and steel. Thank you Dave for teaching me the 5/10 Cs.
I have only been watching the videos for maybe 5 months but, I have amassed a wealth of knowledge in that short time. I am in your debt. I will continue watching and learning and putting into practice what I learn. My kit is not totally complete but,if push comes to shove,I know I will be safe with what I do have coupled with what I have learned.
Sorry to be so long winded.
Keep doing what you do.
I'll be watching from north of the 49th.
I see the 10 C's as foundational. For me, it has been two fold, the more I know, the less I carry, and the more I know the specific items I carry for environmental threats. Understanding the threats is what Dave has us consider when studying the 10 C's. Really, it comes down to us on how far we take it. Combat applications really are not the focus, but traditional hunting, trapping, camping, and survival in the civilian sense. One could argue that times are changing and that what ten years ago was considered extreme is now acceptable. Meaning weapon and combat first aid should be taught as basic survival. However, Dave's format is perfect for his intended goal. He has not called his system tactical or combat readiness to my knowledge. However, the knowledge he provides is very useful when combined with the tactical. Honestly, if you have followed Dave long enough, you know his system is ever evolving. He does not stay idle. He is constantly bringing in new and up to date. If nothing else, he will get you thinking.
Haters gonna hate Dave . I’ve always viewed the the 10c 15c as a foundation. It’s incumbent upon the individual to supplement their kits within their needs and skills. God bless ❤
I think all great teachers have to deal with the frustration of trying to drive common sense into the thickest of skulls from time to time. Good video Dave, thanks for sharing!
Boy it’s sad that these videos need to be made and every video needs constant disclaimers in them to pacify the keyboard posse of the world
This has to be a response video to Stokers video. I’m glad you posted this, and I’m saddened that stoker just wanted to create a click bait video. I can’t believe he couldn’t apply some common sense to understand what the 10 C’s system was designed to accomplish.
Dave, you are and have been at the forefront. The 10 C's and the three point pyramid (three of each( absolutely are essential. Across the board, past instructors and freelancers all have adopted your common sense applications!? If I had a choice of all the TH-camrs to be in the wilderness.. I would want to have the 11th C... Canterbury godspeed Dave😎👍.
I’ve been using your 10 Cs for years now as a general guideline for what to carry, it’s simply a matter of what’s hardest to improvise! Thanks for all you do!
Love your examples and explanations I have been a well versed woodsman for over 50 years, but I learn new methods from your videos alot. Keep up the good work.
My 5 C's that I carry in my pocket and 10 C's that I have packed in my car trunk and the 10 C's I have assembled for hunting, all 3 completely different all with different add on's never left me hanging in any situation in the last 10 years or so since I've first heard Mr. Canterbury present that concept. It's became my basis for preparing for everyday situations, not just survivability I SHTF situations. All I have to say about it is. Thank you Mr. Canterbury for doing the thinking for me.
Broad stroke it, sums it up perfectly. people need to have common sense and apply the 10c concept to their skills and environment. sadly there is such a massive glut of bad information out there under the umbrella of "content". The no BS knowledge that Dave has been sharing for years is so much appreciated and has made my time in the woods forever enjoyable, i thank you
Thanks for presenting this in a way that approaches survivability from a number of angles, Mr. Canterbury!
After how many years since you developed the 10c concept people don't understand that it is a base line to build on just blows my mind! Thanks for sharing my friend 🤠
It's been years since your first 10 C's video. What I remember most about it and the 5 C's video is your statement "These are the items that would most aid in your survival AND are the most difficult to fabricate from natural materials". The 2nd part after "AND" being the important part. My takeaway is that if I had to move fast, I'm going to do my best to have the 5 C's. Or for day hikes, just carry the 5 C's. Plus 6 thru 10 are all small items so it would be easy to have them all in a small kit - easy dayhike kit, car kit, EDC kit, etc.
Dave
I appreciate your dedication to the bushcraft community. I started watching a few years back and i have learned so much from you and the people you have taught. Keep up the good work brother.
I've always said, I can lead you to water, I can hold your head under water, but I can't make you drink.
There's another saying, I can explain it to you, but I can't make you understand it.
If someone doesn't know when they are given topics in broad terms, that they are suggestions, and not the only choices.
As you stated, any item listed is meant to have AN item to cover that task. Items that can cover multiple tasks, are great, that's called redundancy.
All anyone can do is give information to someone, if they can't build from there, maybe they should stay at home and not try to survive. They probably won't make it anyway.
Thanks for what you do and all the information you give.
God bless ya'll and stay safe on your travels.
Thank you Dave. Your videos are always helpful with clear and concise information. It makes my head spin knowing that some people will very often, by the nature of who they are, misconstrue helpful advice that can make the difference in a life and death situation.
Please keep doing what you are doing
Grateful.
Grateful for your time, your energy and for your support.
I have been using and teaching the 10Cs and 5Cs for decades.
I appreciate the update and affirmation/confirmation; for them.
For us... We got you, twenty years ago.
Dave keep up the great work. People will be people. We are all broken and flawed. I saw the video you might be responding to last night. I agree with you. I wasn't too stoked about it either. Blessings
I appreciate your videos Dave. I build my kit starting with those 10cs it helped a lot get started many years ago and add to my kit. Thanks for all your teachings.
the 10c's has worked for me and it has been the bases for all my kits ever since you first talked about it.
Thanks, brother! I appreciate your good work. I love the way you break down concepts, not overly specific.
Perspective. I love it. Too many people having too little perspective is what I think is the main problem with our world. And this video encompasses preparatory emergency / survival very well. In the end, you must think for yourself and you are spoon-feeding us the ways to provoke our brain to think for our individual path. Thanks Dave! (hoping to attend some of your class this coming year too!)
Dave you know there's always someone that knows everything, your knowledge of the outdoors I trust, because you've been doing what you do and teach for long time, keep teaching 🇺🇸👍
Very well said and always well spoken, I've been watching and learning from the beginning good sir. Keep on keeping on! You are the Moors of our day IMO all do respect, simply unmatched!
Excellent Dave,hands down.We all respect You very much and learning from You constantly.Thank You Sir!Elemer.
For whatever reason the lines
between survival and bushcrafty things and combat
LARPers hoping and praying
for that firefight at the front
gate of the subdivision has
gotten blurry and mixed for
at least the last decade.
Surviving means getting back
home with all your organs and
limbs relatively unscathed.
Those who want to spend their
time carving wood and building a log cabin with a
penknife should have at it.
Those who want to trade lead
with others can easily find
such a contest by driving around here at 3AM in a
newer shiny vehicle. There
will be someone who will
happily accommodate you
soon
Unless something has changed, I was taught years
ago that a tourniquet is a
tool for stopping spurting
arterial bleeding, and anything
else gets a compress or
pressure bandage. I guess
the one thing that's remained
unchanged is that everybody
should do whatever is right
for yourself and not depend
on anybody else to pull you
from the brink
Thanks for another great video
Looking forward to many more
I can't believe this is still happening. Good to see you Dave.
I have thought you were awesome since I started watching you years ago. You always have excellent videos and great advice. Keep up the awesome work
Glad you brought this to attention. And in hopes that what you stated broaden the thinking of the narrow minded. Have always looked at it this way since you first brought the 10 Cs to us years ago. A wise man once said, don't just think outside the box, realize there is no box to begin with. Thanks for sharing Dave!
Great lesson Dave. I hope you and you're family have a great Christmas.
Thanks for all you do Dave!
*David Canterbury* Bravo well done, thank-you sir for taking the time to keep us informed. GOD Bless.
Good morning Dave!
Thanks for all the great content
People tend to get caught up in following concepts to the letter rather than the spirit. It's a guideline, not a policy.
Appriciate you sharing knowledge dave! Have a wonderfull day
Right-on !
Dave I've been telling people that very thing. You have always said the 10 C's are categories of gear.
Thank you, for the 10 C's they help.
I have been a TH-cam fan for many years. Seen Dave in person at the SMKW once, my girlfriend shook his hand and has not washed it since. Just kidding. I think David's contributions to the outdoor arts is amazing. Ideas and practices that will make a difference for sure. He only gets better and better as time passes.
They do work but there are too many literal minded people who have trouble with concepts and want directives. I had this same discussion with a co-worker last week and he was thinking combat vs survival, with his mindset, he and his family will not make it in a true survival scenario. Keep teaching and thanks for what you do.
This is good. With TH-cam or other avenues of information collecting, there are people who never step outside of the city. They will watch a video such as a 10C’s topic and think that’s it. They will be fine. People who know this stuff don’t leave home without it. Getting into the weeds is what helps open the eyes of people who are learning. Nothing is static. Thank you Dave for all you do and I hope people in this community understands that this content may not be for a professional but a novice who is attempting to get their thoughts and skills together as well.
I think i saw the video that sparked your rant. People are always going to pick apart anything thats the slightest bit different from their opinion. The 10 C's is, and always will be a great checklist for building your kit. Thanks Dave
Good video Dave. Folks need to take things as concepts instead of literal spoon feeding.
Survival skills are good to get you from A to B, Homesteading is C to Z. The best survivalists starve on Alone. A few survivalists working with homesteaders is the best for both groups. If you had a few guys camping around your farm helping you defend it your odds of survival go way up. If you are a homesteader you won’t solo survive as soon as 12 people decide to loot you by force.
Right on Dave, I appreciate your great teaching. Thanks
Seen a video the other day from a TH-camr i respect that didnt think 10 c's were effective and "explained" why. A rare miss from that guy.
Back in the 80's I did my first camping trip by myself from Canada through the USA to the bottom of Mexico, hitchhiking camping taking buses. I had zero experience but I purchased a two person winter tent made here in Canada, sleeping bag, multigask stove, Buck 124, Swiss Army champ, 26-in eastwing steel ax, and a folding Buck saw. Plus a few little odd items but that was about it. I lived for months and everything went 100% perfectly. except for one campsite that I went to which turned into the biggest nudist colony in the USA called the rainbow gathering and I only found out when I got there but that's another story. So the 10 C's do work. One more C you need is cash. I came to here to learn from an expert. Thank you Mr Canterbury I have learned a lot from you over the years.
breaking the 10 Cs down into three items for each category makes the whole outline so much more simplistic for the over-thinker. container always includes a nesting stove and cordages to effect a boil, cover has the 'over/under/on' caveat, etc. thats great i like this video makes the arguments fall off, none of them were much good anyway but here's the roman concrete version. great work dave as always.
You dont need to explain yourself dave, we saw the video. Everybody who follows this channel probably has good common sense i have the ten C's in various bags, along with medical stuff, and a radio, and guns, most of us understand that ya cant even carry everything you need in a backpack, which is where a truck kit, or an atv kit comes in, and then you need to cache the big majority of the odds an ends. I dare say nobody has put as much good content out, for free, on youtube, than you. Your one of greats dude. Don't let it stress ya.
Dave people will argue weather or not water is wet. Your systems have always worked for me. Hope ypur having a great holiday season so far,
Your the best always enjoy your videos and vast knowledge. Thanks for all you do.
Thank you Dave! Very well said and /or stated!!!
Dave Canterbury we greatly appreciate you. Happy Holidays to you & family.
You guys Have Dave all fired up on this one, and he's not mad but fusstrated because he really cares This is our "Uncle of outdoors" here the ten C's are just the foundation to get you from A to B as fast as possible with the lightest bare minimum kit. Any additions I call relief items you can do the task without Remember from A to B fast as possible.
Dave I’ve been going b your 5 - 10 cs for years now. Thanks for teaching me the way sir
I believe I saw one of the videos you are referring to and did not bother to click and watch (and eliminated that person from my watch list). I believe in the 10 C's but I add two more: Care (i.e. IFAK) and Consumables (small emergency rations).
Dave love you like a brother from another mother. See you in March. Great response to SMH bill.
Hi Dave! Watched your thread and can only say that the 10 C's are the crux of survival. If you have a basic course attended, apply your knowledge and have the 10's, you can make do. When i read and see true stories of survival where someone applied 5 C's or even zero C's and luck saved them, it has driven my curiosity to learn. Why not save yourself? Non caring folks change their tune on Death's doorstep. Don't wait! Take a step daily and learn and practice skills.
If you don't have time, and feel the cellphone will save you...think again.
My youngest son took a 3 day tour of the Rockies. Of a group of 5, he was the only guy who could start a campfire, boil water, and pitch a bivy bag uphill from rains. Those others barely had a pocket knife, lighter, poncho, steel cup, and cordage to make shelter. No map, compass, flashlight . My son returned from a great trip, the others....well we know the answer.
He watched you and Cody on Dual Survival, and tons of your threads. He did learn and it showed when he was confident and kept cool on small issues on the 3 day campout. Can't say thanks enough for all your donations of experience in bushcraft trade. Well done! David
Great info on all your videos.
What you taught me with the 10C’s is how to reduce the amount of things that I drag into the woods with me without reducing my ability to walk back out of the woods 👍
for decades before I had heard your list, my father and grandfather, as well as my survival training instructors in the military have always given some version of this list. it is NOT the be all and end all of what you should carry, but it IS a very solid starting point. I have several kits of different sizes, and purposes but they all have most, if not all of the item categories from your list. truth is, some people just have to be contrary. I Do carry an IFAK, and when I have my wheelchair ( which is almost all of the time) I also have a trauma kit, that does include a tourniquet.
Great talk and explanation. Thanks
Common sense isn't so common Dave. Narrow minds can only see in a straight line. Your content makes sense and most people can see the broad strokes that apply to them personally. Keep up the good work.
Great video man! Loved it!
Your the man dave!! Even the haters get another schooling from the master. He still trying to help the people that hate. Take notes people it's about SURVIVAL!!
Hey, Dave. I think you nailed it when you mentioned "perspective". As a guy that used to say too much & knowing very little, I now know how off my perspective used to be. Nowadays, I always look at things from a day hike gone wrong perspective so my choice of materials might vary, but the approach is the same. And, I thank you. Thank you for always being patient and such a good teacher. I now have the confidence to go further and do more things in the woods because of your teaching.
Very well said Dave!! The more I have researched on kits from the past, they all contained the 10C's in one fashion or another, even the military basic loadout does!! Some people have a hard time understanding the concept of concepts I guess.
Well said Dave!
I too teach your 10-Cs in my classes, because it is so important!
But I do add two more categories:
C = Care (medical)
C = Calories (food, snacks)
I also emphasize having a minimum of 3 in each category for redundancy ("2 is 1 and 1 is none" mentality)
Thank you sir for all you do to teach us nuckle heads.
Great advice as always Dave
Thanks for sharing so much with the public!
Lol. I had no idea what a rat tourniquet is until now. I still keep triangle bandages like I was trained on when I was enlisted. It doesn't get much more out of date than that, but a triangle bandage is a great multitasker.
I’m glad Dave made this video, it truly solidifies one stance or opinion when faced with adversity or debate. It’s good to debate with those who disagree to truly see if what you believe is accurate and right.
Thanks for that rant! I learned a lot!
The 10Cs and training at Dave's has made me rethink EVERYTHING! You don't know survival until you learn this system.
I can appreciate the Rat tourniquet explanation. I have Cat tourniquets. They are big to put in the pocket. Maybe if I wore cargo pants every day. I get tired of too many knives in my pockets, but I feel better if I have them.
Thank you for directing people BACK to use THEIR common sense. It is too easy for someone new to bushcraft and survival skills to get misdirected down the wrong path. You have a good baseline system for people to tailor to their needs. Keep up the good work.
Dave; I’ve hiked, camped & do some bushcraft but not as much nor at the level you and your students are, however, as I have watched many your videos (and those of others) my take away has always been “I should learn and test what I need at my skill level because I may have to adjust accordingly”. Sir I don’t think you have to defend yourself. Thank you for what I’ve learned.
Always injoy your videos Dave. I have two RATS tourniquets one in my vehicle bleed kit and one in my IFAK that goes with me most of the time. I have CAT tourniquets also but the RAT works for children and like you it's small.
You do a great job Dave. There is a I know better side in another of folks now days. You are an expert. You have walked the walk.
I don't know about anybody else; but I carry what I have or can easily get. I follow you for your guidance; and I use that to assemble my kit. I also know my terrain, and that often determines the kit I carry, so I can accomplish the guidelines you help me set. I appreciate your straightforward approach, and your instructional videos on how to use the knowledge you share. World is full of naysayers and nit pickers out there, stay the course; at least you know where you're going.
As someone who knows nothing and just treks, I found both your videos and your systems to be perfect. I always knew I was taking a risk heading out with a bottle of water and a pack of cigarettes. With your help I feel I have the pack now that if something did happen that it's OK I'm prepared. Maybe people who are skilled survivalist should shut up, because these videos aren't for people who "know everything". There for people like me who don't even know where to start. Thanks Dave and team for sharing. I bet there's people alive today because of 5/10cs.
Dave I know by the start of the video who you were addressing and I had the same ?? as you on first aid afct without knowledge and training it is not a be all do all take a broken leg told said tuber even a 12 yr old boy scout could fix with cordage and a pair of sticks splint the break you give good info thanks
You made the point. 10C is still the best summary ever. Any adaption to specific circumstances, availabilities and preferances should be so clears also... Why have people sometimes such problems with common sense...
Great update thanks for the information
hi from the UK, I thought the 10 C's was so good I integrated it into teaching my cadets and kids at a youth group. It's nothing more than a pnuemonic for a packing list and it bloody well works! I personally did change it from 10 to 11 C's by adding Circulation into the top 6 items so that covers for an IFAC.
Keep up the good work mate
You are a gift to this world. Fan since the real dual survival.
Hi Dave, you have no idea how many times I've comment that the 10Cs represent 10 categories of items in videos where they claim that the 10Cs are insufficient just because they consist of 10 items only. It seems like there's a comprehension issue these days; people struggle to grasp what they hear. You've consistently emphasized the concept of 10 categories of items on your videos, but it doesn't surprise me, considering the current trend where people seem to have difficulty understanding (or even reading) and comprehending what others tell them.
I was waiting for this video after the one I watched yesterday
Great advice!
You mean that if I carry a pistol I should carry ammunition too?? Wow, what a concept. 🤔
Thanks for the video's You make people think, I believe that's the point. Forget about the haters, they will always be here. Another good line don't over think it. Take care and stay safe out there.
Well said Dave. Keep up the great work and the 10c's have saved my ass more than once.
Can’t please everyone. No need to validate yourself to others if they can’t seem to understand that this is a guideline to build a basis on what you may or may not need. A foundation so to say.
I find it quite tragic that this needs to be explained. Dave, thx again for all you and others do for the craft rather than those trying to shoot down others to make themselves look smarter... keep on keepin on brother
From East Tennessee, thanks again man.
Absolutely Spot-On Dave..
Great video! Great job!
Yeah, I just replied to a video yesterday where someone was bashing the 10 C’s.
I told him his premise (and approach) were wrong.
On my channel, I mention the 10 C’s and call out that they are a core of your kit and meant for people with more skills, while I purposely use a list of 15 categories combining the C’s and Essentials but also add things (like cash, gloves, etc.). This may seem obvious, but a lot of folks need spoon feeding here.
Also, skills need to be stressed. A tourniquet is useless if you can’t identify life threatening bleeding or don’t know how to use the tourniquet. That’s why my next video will be on stopping the bleed. A lighter is easier than a ferro rod but if you don’t understand the fire triangle and how to stack wood, use tinder, etc., even the lighter isn’t much good for building a fire in the woods.
For anyone starting out, check out my channel where I try to simplify things. This is not trying to piggyback off of Dave but rather to spread the word to those with less skills or just starting out (I make no money from my channel, just trying to help others).
To Dave personally, I know you won’t read this but in case you do, Thank You for all you do for us, for our families, and for the world in general.
Do you remember the person who had a 10C kit on them in a wilderness emergency and died? Neither do I. Keep up the good work Dave.