Maybe Dave is getting us ready for a time when we can't afford to buy shells. A big jar of black powder, some BB's and an old tshirt don't cost that much.
This guy doesn't nearly get enough recognition. Even though I saw his picture on a Slingshot at big 5 sporting goods. It's still not enough. He taught me that any man can shoot Anything. With all of these kids Wrapped up in the COD Era of firearms. All of these broccoli headed little children Could never understand or appreciate this kind of knowledge
Love these firearm videos Dave, in specific situations the firearm could be a critical piece of a survival gear. Hoping to see more of these types of videos!
Hey Dave in your experience how many times can you reload the same shell? Or is it indefinite as long as it doesn’t get damaged? Thank you so much for all your work
First, I have to laugh at everyone telling you what you're doing wrong when clearly it works. Second, a serious question: How would you make/substitute primers if you had none in a long term self-reliant situation?
@xdeloach primers use mercury fulminate which reacts explosively when struck, its very difficult and somewhat expensive to synthesize in your own home, none the less very dangerous. I would just recommend buying a bunch and storing them.
Fascinating Dave thanks. I've often pondered making such shells.I've done lots of black powder shooting and shotshell reloading. I also enjoyed the survival shows you used to do. That shell you made would be perfectly legal and adequate on waterfowl as well.
Could you use this technique on a 10 gauge side by side made in 1888 if the gun is in shootable condition? I picked up a J.N. Scotts with hammers just because it looks cool. Figured what the heck and try to make it shootable with the right black powder load. I'm all ears.....
Have you ever tried hot glue instead of wax? I mean when you carry them shells around in your pocket in very hot weather for some time, the wax might be melting and it would be a damn mess. Hot glue won´t melt from even the highest enviromental temperatures... and you can carry those glue sticks with ya just like a candle, so it can be done in the field, too. Hot glue would probably create even more resistance before the gases push the pellets outta the shell, thus increasing the pressure and you might have a few per cent more of a punch... a downside could be that the upper layer of pellets might stay together with the glue and come out as some kinda solid "bullet" but what the hell... there´s still enough pellets underneath that layer. Try and make a video :-)
Just finally got all the components gathered up to do this. Powder was the toughest to find but I have some now. QUESTION CAN I USE A REGULAR CANDLE,or does it have to be beeswax
Are you worried that those hard steel BBs will wear hard on your barrel or is this just a just in case skill, in other words do you regularly use this load
its worth noting for anyone who reloads shotgun shells..... They can only be reloaded a few times.. 3 or 4 depending on the shell.... you will know when its not safe any longer... the shell will look it
I've reloaded shotshells with BP before. PROS: As the video shows, less costly than smokeless, can load in the field with simple "ingredients". I have shot decent patterns up to about 30 yards. Closer in patterns are better though, obviously. I have not hunted with the BP shotgun. I suspect that the low velocity is an issue with knock down ability. For ducks I would say over decoys would be good but pass shots probably not. CONS: Dirty as all get out. Yes you can clean your gun in the creek or whatever but if you were, say, dove, quail or duck hunting you might need to shoot many times before being able to clean. I'm not sure how that would go. I guess bring some patches and bore cleaner with you and clean every few shots???
Thanks for taking the time and effort to put out great content like this... in a TEOTWAWKI situation, knowing basic survival skills like these is critical.😊 maybe life saving
No worries. He is using Pyrodex. This is a synthetic black powder that doesn't explode. In fact its not classed as an explosive like black powder. The synthetics have a coating over each grain, and they are classed as propellants, since they dont have the risk of heat or static electric flash over. They are also non-corrosive. I cant recall anyone here still using actual BP around here. been like that for 20 years here or so. Hot wax is no danger for synthetics.
@RobertoDonatti You don't need to be an expert, reloading is safe and easy if your not an idiot and know what you're doing. And I do think Dave knows what he is doing.
Excellent, I have an old Sears (1960's) SS 2 3/4 - 3" full choke 12ga in really great shape, to use with black powder if there is an ammo shortage. Good Idea?
Dave I have been looking for one of these magnets since you posted this video with no success where did you get yours? The closest thing I could find was at menards online store as there is none near me and it was ceramic Also what size is this magnet and the drilled hole thanks Jason
Neat idea, how much powder did you use or how would you guestimate a quantity, I have an old Model 37 that I would like to try this with. Do you know if the brass shells used in cowboy action shooting would work just the same? Thanks
Sir, great video, as always, very informative. My question is if that target was full of holes, and in a real life situation, could our teeth handle such "accuracy"? Were those bbs #6, or something else? Thank you Sir, for your hard work in producing these types of lessons for us --> in-the-bush.
hey Dave. I'm thinking of doing this with my .410 because they are just so darn expensive and they don't tend to come in metal shot anyways. what kind of loads would you recommend for a .410 shell?
Dave, try a Pyrodex load for shotgun using 74.7 grain, which is the equal to approx 109.2 Goex FFg black powder. Thanks for your patience with me. - C.J.
Hey Dave, have you considered cutting down a old shell at 100 grains to use as a measure or a spare measure? It'd help keep the bbs from clogging up. Great video btw.
I think a 20 or 12 is sufficient. I have a 20 gauge cooey fixed full choke and a 12 cylinder bore. Both with mixed shot I think I could eat bird to buck. The 12 is actually a bit large for smaller birds like grouse or ptarmigan in my opinion. With a 20 if one is reloading by hand loads are a bunch lighter and one can carry a bunch more 20 at the same weight as 12. A single shot would suffice, but in my opinion a pump gun is far superior for a survival situation! Don't get me wrong though a single shot is better than a rock!
love your vids even got me one of your sling bows ,having said that you loading that primer looks hella dangerous I think if things really come to a head and gotta survive using Bush crafted methods I think I'll just put my Lee load all in my pack it's small won't take up much room plus by the time you load one your way I'll already have 25 made my way keep making the great vids tho much love to you brother
LOVE the Video Mr. Canterbury, incredibly useful to me as my bush gun is an old Iver Johnson/Schattuck Side-Snap 12G that's over 136 years old at this point, going on rough estimates from production dates. I used to use Brass MAGTECH shells before I move, but I can't find them anymore, I'm just going to use this method from now on! I even have a ton of BBs leftover from my pellet gun days as a kid! Hopefully, one day, I can make it down for some classes. My current goal is to save up enough to buy a piece of land up here out in the Canadian Wilderness that I can build a small log cabin on as a retreat for times off work or just whenever I need away from things!
Hey dave how much powder whould you put into a 2 3/4 in shell if your going to use a hard cast lead slug that ways 2.5 oz ive heard 32 grains of smokeless but I dont know what that equals in blackpowder
Very informative. I'm wondering, however, what the advantage of doing this is, as opposed to just taking more shells into the field? Seems like the weight would be the same except for the plastic casings for the extra shells. You're already carrying the powder and the shot. What am I missing?
I’m a little confused. Most of the BBs I find are steel coated with something else. Isn’t steel always a bad choice for older gun barrels, even if they are coated?
Steel bicycle bearings can be used as 00 buck, because as far as I know, all they sell at Walmart is birdshot. Home made pipe shotgun barrels are hard to mess up.
@CivilianSheepdog I watched a video series on how they collected potassium nitrate from urine and piles of poo, wow what a long process but informitive to say the least:)
Dave, I like your simple reloading kit. I have a Lee Loader Deluxe hand loading press. I also agree with your opinion on using larger shot, more versitile, more humane on something big enough to not require a slug. However, if I'm not mistaken, Ohio law forbids the use of anything bigger than #4 birdshot on game???
Dave i think your videos are really great. alot of info. For the black powder in the shotgun was great. I like that one. One hint from a friend of mine the old timers in Kentucky used hornets nest for the wad.
Hey Dave, off topic, but I figured I could catch you hear.... Your knife appears to have a dark finsh on it. Does the knife come that way? Or is that a petina you put on the knife? Sorry about last post.
Hay Dave I have a question for you, Will a 209A Federal Shot shell primer work the same as a 209 With 100 Gr of power and shot? Thanks for the videos and info.
So it was a hand loaded black powder shot shell to shoot from a regular single shot shotgun? Didn't you work up the proper charge for the best distance/group?
@P226nut yes any rifled lead slug is safe to shoot there made of lead thay swage down but more slugs are about .690" and a full choke is about .690" so do the math
great vid Dave ,i also enjoyed the other vid on this subject.when you were taking out the forearm screw on the other vid i thought of welding a wing nut to the screw.just an idea.thanks for all you do.happy thanksgiving to you and your family
Dave...awesome as usual...just one thing. PYRODEX isnt a true black powder, what you got there is a SEMI SMOKELESS, and the best parts of BOTH powder types. lower power level so safe for shotguns and pistols, but here's the cool part. you can ALSO find loadings for 45 LONG COLT, and 45 ACP, since both were loaded to black powder pressure levels. Cannot wait until You and Cody tear it up again, even my wife loves your series. HOO AH, and keep your powder dry brother... Seeya Dude
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Maybe Dave is getting us ready for a time when we can't afford to buy shells. A big jar of black powder, some BB's and an old tshirt don't cost that much.
This guy doesn't nearly get enough recognition. Even though I saw his picture on a Slingshot at big 5 sporting goods. It's still not enough. He taught me that any man can shoot Anything. With all of these kids Wrapped up in the COD Era of firearms. All of these broccoli headed little children Could never understand or appreciate this kind of knowledge
if you have 3 different color shells, you can load and be able to color code small, med, large game rounds. just an idea i got watching your vid =)
It will work but he will wear his barrel out prematurely from the steel BB's against the steel barrel , a steel shot wad would be best
Love these firearm videos Dave, in specific situations the firearm could be a critical piece of a survival gear. Hoping to see more of these types of videos!
This is good "need to know" infromation, thanks Dave. I have a question, you used the BP Equivelant, can the real BP be used safely?
You can leave off the top wad and mix wax with the shot and make a wax slug to use on game up to deer size in a pinch.
Thats amazing...you just brought new life to my HR single shot 12 gauge....
Hey Dave in your experience how many times can you reload the same shell? Or is it indefinite as long as it doesn’t get damaged? Thank you so much for all your work
12 gauge,my weapon of choice.Now i'm gonna get a single shot and try this.."reloading"....Thanks for the info...
First, I have to laugh at everyone telling you what you're doing wrong when clearly it works.
Second, a serious question: How would you make/substitute primers if you had none in a long term self-reliant situation?
@xdeloach primers use mercury fulminate which reacts explosively when struck, its very difficult and somewhat expensive to synthesize in your own home, none the less very dangerous. I would just recommend buying a bunch and storing them.
Fascinating Dave thanks. I've often pondered making such shells.I've done lots of black powder shooting and shotshell reloading. I also enjoyed the survival shows you used to do. That shell you made would be perfectly legal and adequate on waterfowl as well.
Could you use this technique on a 10 gauge side by side made in 1888 if the gun is in shootable condition? I picked up a J.N. Scotts with hammers just because it looks cool. Figured what the heck and try to make it shootable with the right black powder load. I'm all ears.....
Great vid, the lighter makes me nervous with the pryodex! :-)
2011 the good old days.
Looking at the comnents from 11 years ago, it is amazing how much people didn't consider the situation our country is in now.
Awesome! Also love the cross hanging off the neck. God bless you brother.
Have you ever tried hot glue instead of wax? I mean when you carry them shells around in your pocket in very hot weather for some time, the wax might be melting and it would be a damn mess. Hot glue won´t melt from even the highest enviromental temperatures... and you can carry those glue sticks with ya just like a candle, so it can be done in the field, too. Hot glue would probably create even more resistance before the gases push the pellets outta the shell, thus increasing the pressure and you might have a few per cent more of a punch... a downside could be that the upper layer of pellets might stay together with the glue and come out as some kinda solid "bullet" but what the hell... there´s still enough pellets underneath that layer. Try and make a video :-)
Just finally got all the components gathered up to do this. Powder was the toughest to find but I have some now.
QUESTION CAN I USE A REGULAR CANDLE,or does it have to be beeswax
Are you worried that those hard steel BBs will wear hard on your barrel or is this just a just in case skill, in other words do you regularly use this load
its worth noting for anyone who reloads shotgun shells..... They can only be reloaded a few times.. 3 or 4 depending on the shell.... you will know when its not safe any longer... the shell will look it
I've reloaded shotshells with BP before. PROS: As the video shows, less costly than smokeless, can load in the field with simple "ingredients". I have shot decent patterns up to about 30 yards. Closer in patterns are better though, obviously. I have not hunted with the BP shotgun. I suspect that the low velocity is an issue with knock down ability. For ducks I would say over decoys would be good but pass shots probably not.
CONS: Dirty as all get out. Yes you can clean your gun in the creek or whatever but if you were, say, dove, quail or duck hunting you might need to shoot many times before being able to clean. I'm not sure how that would go. I guess bring some patches and bore cleaner with you and clean every few shots???
How and when shoild the shotgun be cleaned after shooting black powder or pyrodex shells through it??
Thanks for taking the time and effort to put out great content like this... in a TEOTWAWKI situation, knowing basic survival skills like these is critical.😊 maybe life saving
No worries. He is using Pyrodex. This is a synthetic black powder that doesn't explode. In fact its not classed as an explosive like black powder. The synthetics have a coating over each grain, and they are classed as propellants, since they dont have the risk of heat or static electric flash over. They are also non-corrosive. I cant recall anyone here still using actual BP around here. been like that for 20 years here or so. Hot wax is no danger for synthetics.
Dave, you have really inspired me,you make me think of a modern day Nessmuk.
thank you
So about doing this for 20 ga. ....
@RobertoDonatti You don't need to be an expert, reloading is safe and easy if your not an idiot and know what you're doing. And I do think Dave knows what he is doing.
The nice thing about this is that in a SHTF situation there wil be plenty of spet shotgun shells lying around.
Excellent, I have an old Sears (1960's) SS 2 3/4 - 3" full choke 12ga in really great shape, to use with black powder if there is an ammo shortage. Good Idea?
Dave, these last few videos with the 12 gauge H&R have been very interesting. Thanks
Way to go Dave. Your long hunter series is one great idea!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!
looks the future like that. The world is dead.
Thank you for this video I love using black powder now I can use it in my shotgun
Dave, how many times can you relaod each shell before it starts damageing the brass?
Weight to Volume Equivalent Weights- ( Conversions )
Goex - 100 gr FFg -
APP FFg - 85.0
777 FFg - 73.3
Pinnacle FFg - 88.0
Pinnacle FFFg - 85.0
Pyrodex RS - 68.4
Dave I have been looking for one of these magnets since you posted this video with no success where did you get yours?
The closest thing I could find was at menards online store as there is none near me and it was ceramic
Also what size is this magnet and the drilled hole thanks
Jason
Pretty Cool - Thanks !
😎👍
Neat idea, how much powder did you use or how would you guestimate a quantity, I have an old Model 37 that I would like to try this with. Do you know if the brass shells used in cowboy action shooting would work just the same? Thanks
Great video and fine job. Never thought of using shot shells over in this way. Definitely interested in trying this method out.
Sir, great video, as always, very informative.
My question is if that target was full of holes, and in a real life situation, could our teeth handle such "accuracy"? Were those bbs #6, or something else?
Thank you Sir, for your hard work in producing these types of lessons for us --> in-the-bush.
Bubba’s pissin hot handloads 😂
Obviously not a brass hull...
hey Dave. I'm thinking of doing this with my .410 because they are just so darn expensive and they don't tend to come in metal shot anyways. what kind of loads would you recommend for a .410 shell?
I am blaming this video for the 209 primers, powder measure and pyrodex I just bought. LOL
Awesome vid Dave. Keep it up brother.
I counted 39 holes, good guess!
Hey, good stuff, this answers a lot of my why's from last video on this.
What's next? High pressure air bottle hooked to the back of the barrel ? ; )
Dave, try a Pyrodex load for shotgun using 74.7 grain, which is the equal to approx 109.2 Goex FFg black powder. Thanks for your patience with me. - C.J.
This seams like more work and less space/weight efficiency to make less consistent shot than using black powder and a classic lee loader.
I am enjoying these videos a great deal.
Thank you Dave.
And I did have a nice Thanksgiving...thanks. =D
Just checking would it matter if the power you use is FFFg or FFg? Is the a 100 g measure the same for FFFg and FFg?
Hey Dave, have you considered cutting down a old shell at 100 grains to use as a measure or a spare measure? It'd help keep the bbs from clogging up.
Great video btw.
great video! i will try this out in the am on mr squirrel! thank you sir!
I think a 20 or 12 is sufficient. I have a 20 gauge cooey fixed full choke and a 12 cylinder bore. Both with mixed shot I think I could eat bird to buck. The 12 is actually a bit large for smaller birds like grouse or ptarmigan in my opinion. With a 20 if one is reloading by hand loads are a bunch lighter and one can carry a bunch more 20 at the same weight as 12. A single shot would suffice, but in my opinion a pump gun is far superior for a survival situation! Don't get me wrong though a single shot is better than a rock!
love your vids even got me one of your sling bows ,having said that you loading that primer looks hella dangerous I think if things really come to a head and gotta survive using Bush crafted methods I think I'll just put my Lee load all in my pack it's small won't take up much room plus by the time you load one your way I'll already have 25 made my way keep making the great vids tho much love to you brother
LOVE the Video Mr. Canterbury, incredibly useful to me as my bush gun is an old Iver Johnson/Schattuck Side-Snap 12G that's over 136 years old at this point, going on rough estimates from production dates.
I used to use Brass MAGTECH shells before I move, but I can't find them anymore, I'm just going to use this method from now on! I even have a ton of BBs leftover from my pellet gun days as a kid!
Hopefully, one day, I can make it down for some classes. My current goal is to save up enough to buy a piece of land up here out in the Canadian Wilderness that I can build a small log cabin on as a retreat for times off work or just whenever I need away from things!
Hey dave how much powder whould you put into a 2 3/4 in shell if your going to use a hard cast lead slug that ways 2.5 oz ive heard 32 grains of smokeless but I dont know what that equals in blackpowder
Pyrodex is not black powder. It’s suppose to be cleaner than black powder. It’s an alternative to black powder.
Very informative. I'm wondering, however, what the advantage of doing this is, as opposed to just taking more shells into the field? Seems like the weight would be the same except for the plastic casings for the extra shells. You're already carrying the powder and the shot. What am I missing?
I’m a little confused. Most of the BBs I find are steel coated with something else. Isn’t steel always a bad choice for older gun barrels, even if they are coated?
Steel bicycle bearings can be used as 00 buck, because as far as I know, all they sell at Walmart is birdshot. Home made pipe shotgun barrels are hard to mess up.
@wildernessoutfitters huh learn something new everyday thanks
@CivilianSheepdog I watched a video series on how they collected potassium nitrate from urine and piles of poo, wow what a long process but informitive to say the least:)
Wont those BB's damage your barrel?
i would love to learn form you dave pitty im in australia
Smokey the bear would frown on that wadding
@wildernessoutfitters Dave, have you ever tried to make your own BP? Good skill to learn:)
thank you for clarifying and expanding. I I may say so u´re the best channel on the web. I thank you and wranglestar for pointing you out to me.
could probably melt the beeswax chunk inside of a small pan over a fire and pour a little bit in to a group of shells all at once
Dave, I like your simple reloading kit. I have a Lee Loader Deluxe hand loading press.
I also agree with your opinion on using larger shot, more versitile, more humane on something big enough to not require a slug.
However, if I'm not mistaken, Ohio law forbids the use of anything bigger than #4 birdshot on game???
How bad is the fowling with using Pyrodex RS?
Will any type of wax work? Paraffin type, soy, etc?
Dave i think your videos are really great. alot of info. For the black powder in the shotgun was great. I like that one. One hint from a friend of mine the old timers in Kentucky used hornets nest for the wad.
Hey Dave, off topic, but I figured I could catch you hear.... Your knife appears to have a dark finsh on it. Does the knife come that way? Or is that a petina you put on the knife? Sorry about last post.
Awesome! Great instruction, thank you for taking the time to show us!
Hey Dave, if you used 100 grains in a 12 guage, what would you use for a 20 guage?
@MrGattor33 you can, it's the exact same thing. you use 209 shotgun primers in these newer primer muzzleloaders, it's what they were designed to use.
Hay Dave I have a question for you, Will a 209A Federal Shot shell primer work the same as a 209 With 100 Gr of power and shot? Thanks for the videos and info.
So it was a hand loaded black powder shot shell to shoot from a regular single shot shotgun? Didn't you work up the proper charge for the best distance/group?
@P226nut yes any rifled lead slug is safe to shoot there made of lead thay swage down but more slugs are about .690" and a full choke is about .690" so do the math
Is there a limit to how many times you can reload a shell?
Yes! Black powder guns. I so want to get into those.
I think we might be allowed to get a license for them here in Australia.
Steel shot will potentially harm the bore if not properly protected by a certain type of wad with thicker walls.
Can't wait to try that!!
great vid Dave ,i also enjoyed the other vid on this subject.when you were taking out the forearm screw on the other vid i thought of welding a wing nut to the screw.just an idea.thanks for all you do.happy thanksgiving to you and your family
I use 70grn of pyrodex,but apples peaches lol
Any concerns if you were to do this process with .410?
yea but some shotguns pellets are made of steel but i dont konw if copper pellts will if yoou know commet back
I know this is an old vid but where in the wild does one find flat top logs?
Love your video,s Dave there,s is always somthing new to learn in them!! By the way, your beard is awesome, looks good on you!! good luck to you!!
How much black powder would you use for a 20ga
You can fill the shells with Spam and lead Crucifix's I think its called a MuslimLoad.
Dave!! what hat is that?!?! I need to know! Anyone else know to spare Dave some time?
Dave...awesome as usual...just one thing.
PYRODEX isnt a true black powder, what you got there is a SEMI SMOKELESS, and the best parts of BOTH powder types.
lower power level so safe for shotguns and pistols, but here's the cool part.
you can ALSO find loadings for 45 LONG COLT, and 45 ACP, since both were loaded to black powder pressure levels.
Cannot wait until You and Cody tear it up again, even my wife loves your series.
HOO AH, and keep your powder dry brother...
Seeya
Dude
is it possible to use muzzle loading primers?
Can you shoot slugs in this gun, its got a modified choke right?
i like pyrodex but i still love good ole FFG black powder and a buffalo bullet
Hope to see more good stuff like this dave :D
THE WIZARD OF THE WOODS, THANKS DAVE FOR ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND TIME
man i LOVE this series