At Only 33 Feet, This SAILBOAT Is HUGE! A RARE 1981 CSY 33 Bluewater Cruiser at $28,500. FULL TOUR!
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At Only 33 Feet, This SAILBOAT Is HUGE! A RARE 1981 CSY 33 Bluewater Cruiser at $28,500!Canadian Ken couldn't join me for this one but it was still a ton of fun to explore and film!
Less than 60 of these Caribbean Sailing Yachts were made. And this CSY 33 is loaded for bear and has been outfitted for long range cruising. Some of the upgrades include solar panels (2 on a stern aluminum arch), lithium iron batteries (3@100 amp each), Victron solar controller, and a Victron dc to dc charger. It also has a Garmin chartplotter, radar on gimballed mount attached to the mast, and a Garmin depth sounder. It is cutter-rigged and comes with a complete set of sails including a spinnaker, storm jib, and a trysail. The galley has a gimballed two-burner stove and oven, pressure water at the sink, and a dc powered freezer with a spill over refrigerator compartment. Finally there is brand new Hydrovane self-steering system. The included dingy is a Portland Pudgy. The Universal diesel engine has approximately 2,000 hours on it and runs like a top, per the owner. In short, she's ready to go. These CSY 33's are known for their unusually large cabins (for their size) and the fact that they are solid fiberglass from stem to stern, from keel to coach roof - in short, there is NO CORING, the bane of most boats from this era. So there are no "soft" decks to worry about. DESTINY is a sturdy sailboat ready for her next adventure!
To contact the seller, please email Robert at: rubbernose184@yahoo.com
Please be kind, respectful, and courteous. And remember, we are NOT yacht brokers and we have no financial interest in this boat. We just think it's cool!
Always get a professional marine survey if you pursue buying this or any boat.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your continued support!
BoatFools Sailing Team
Great, she looks like a great boat for banging around Maine! Love the cockpit!
Maine is the perfect place for a boat like this!
How nice to find a review like this, just posted!
I have a CSY 33, 1979, perkins 4-108 under the galley sinks.
There was an option for the L shaped salon seat to convert to a wider berth. Would not be hard to fabricate the setup. Panel that hides under the seat cushions pulls out and rests on fittings. The seat backs combine to fill in the space so full cushion in the berth.
The water tank is a donut shape around the opening to the bilge. Mine is two half donuts so separate draw hoses. 140 gallons! Very comfy boat to sail. I wish there had been a tiller option instead of wheel. I always liked the feel of a tiller in my hand. But I have adjusted to the wheel.
Responding to a query in the comments, the stern rail was original to the boat as constructed. There are two propane tanks under the helm seat.
The boat is over an inch thick below the waterline. Over half an inch, almost 5/8, on the cabin sides (as I learned when cutting for similar opening port from galley to cockpit. No coreing anywhere!
That is some great information about the CSY 33 -- thanks for sharing! I totally forgot to look under that helm station but when reviewing the footage figured that must be where the propane tanks are. I was so pleasantly surprised by this boat. So cool! Thanks for watching and for this information!
Nice looker, Thanks for the tour.
You bet!
I remember many of the CSY yachts. Solid boats. This one needs a lot for it to look nice but at least you don't have to worry about the hull/deck.
Very solid boats! A good scrub would go a long way and in fairness the owner wanted to do a deep clean but just didn’t have the time.
@@bsm2001yt ya that's what I like about them, that one needs sanding and varnishing and a lot more then just a deep clean.. It will be worth it for a younger guy with the energy
A shower that drains into the bilge is not acceptable. You will have a stinky bilge (and cabin) and you will foul your bilge pump with hair. If you have ever cleaned out an automatic shower sump you will know this.
Agreed. While clearly it has been used this way since 1981, I would modify it. Or at least try to.
We are restoring - refitting a Downeaster 38 ( another great roomy proven heavy displacement fully encapsulated keel cruiser - circumnavigator ) in Virginia , the long neglected CSY 33 next to us on the hard recently sold for $1,000.00 - six months later of 6 day a week diy work the new owner splashed and sailed away ! Marinas across the USA are overloaded by such hidden gems as a elderly ownership base seems to hang on to them for sentimental reasons often up to their ultimate passing - still paying the storage fees ! My small marina had a dozen such boats . There are many Downeaster 32 / 38 s on the market from FREE to 5k -25k to $50k+ in various states of seaworthiness. Other great boats of late 70's early 80's are Cabo Rico 38 , Bayfield 36 and of course the legendary Westsail 32 . Many say do not buy an old boat , we say buy the best boast you can afford , diy refit and upgrade as you can and you will know your boat much better than most ( know how to maintain & repair , react to emergencies ) - - - -
As a newbie sailor, this is so great to hear! My wife and I are just learning to sail and seems many folks try to steer you towards buying a newer boat. First, we are not rich and second we don't really like the look of many of these newer boats out there - we like the older boats from the 1970's and 80's with all the wood and brass, etc. That's what a sailboat should look like, not like something from Ikea.
Would you recommend a Downeaster or this CSY for newbies like us? I got my very first taste of sailing many years ago in the Boy Scouts at our camp lake which had the small Sunfish sailboats on it. I'm almost 56 now but ever since them I've wanted to learn to sail but since we live in southeast Pennsylvania-not really conveniently close to water and I never had a sailing friend or even a boating friend in my life, I never got to sail. It's been nagging me all these years. Now that my kids are grown my wife and I can perhaps finally learn sailing. As a professional chef I'm very good with my hands. Not just cooking but I grew up helping my dad work on old Chevys and I've done my own plumbing and some electrical work too. I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. I agree with you that it's a good thing to work on fixing up your own boat because by doing that you learn the systems you're working on and get to know your boat more intimately. We don't want a huge project but don't mind buying a good working boat that we can learn on and use and slowly fix up over time.
What other boats would you recommend for newbies like us? I love the look of Shannon sailboats but they seem a bit pricey but seem to have a good reputation. At my age, I don't think I would have the time to buy and fix up a smaller boat and then buy another a bit bigger and fix that up, etc. Is it possible and practical for my wife and I to buy one boat we really like even if it's a bit big for us to start? Could we realistically start on a bigger boat (38 - 45') as newbies and still learn to sail?
How many years have you been sailing and how long have you been working on your Downeaster? Are you working on it while still sailing it or is it on the hard until you get her fixed up?
Thank you in advance for any and all thoughts you'd have for a couple of newbies who really want to learn to sail and own our own boat.
Take care and God bless!
Hey, what was the name of the 33? There are not many of them. (Mine is #18) Wondering if I knew it before.
Thanks for the tour... that will be a great boat for a small family that would like to do some cruising... I'm glad to be on your channel.. I'm going to be looking for a used boat sometime next summer to buy...
Awesome! Keep us posted and if we can help in any way, please let us know!
@boatfools Thank you .. Will do... I'm in Cape May, NJ and Annapolis
depending on what you are looking for a similar boat is a Downeaster 38 or the 32 - a real undervalued lesser known "sleeper" - meaning they are not that well known so you can often find one at a real bargain ! We got ours for $1k on the Chesapeake and are just over 1 year into a 2yr refit. A Cabo Rico or a Bayfield 38 / 36 are also great boats of this era but typically pricey. Any boats anywhere near Annapolis will typically be vastly overpriced , shop in lower Chesapeake , We know of several decent Downeasters from FREE to $5k.
@@expeditioncalypsowind where could I find a decent Downeaster cheap but still has good bones?
@expeditioncalypsowind Thank you so much 🙏
Beauty on the woods. Marvelous boat!
We agree!
That's the first time that i had the opportunity to see the interior of a CSY. I really like the "pilot house" design of the main salon -- it really does allow for a great deal of light to enter the cabin. I was a bit concerned with the row of bolts sticking down overhead right where you were talking about the interior height -- those really need to be cut down and covered with acorn nuts for safety. Without the old dining table in place, you might be able to alter the configuration of the main settee to convert into a nice double berth. The two biggest concerns that i would have is the lack of a shower sump and the messy wiring in the engine compartment (looks like many splices over the years -- I wouldn't go anywhere until that was Bristol fashion). Keep up the great work --- you haven't done a "Top three" episode in a while, you're not dropping that from the format are you?
Agree with your points! Yes, very cool boat and I was pleasantly surprised by all of it, especially the light, headroom, and the ease of maneuverability around the interior and up on deck. Felt like 40 feet.
Definitely not ending the Top 10 countdowns. Have some coming up shortly! Those are a lot of fun to do so I am glad you enjoy them! Thanks for the comments and thanks for your continued support!
Missed Canadian Ken. Hope he is doing ok. T family room is very cool. It looks like an original set-up too. Grt walk through. Thank u 👌
He’s 100% fine and will be back. The honest answer is sometimes our day jobs get in the way of having fun filming cool boats!
I could happily buy this boat.
You might have to hop a flight to the US, then sail this beauty back!
@@boatfools
My schoolkids would slit my throat I think.
Cheers Ken
That nice hardtop gonna be a great place for more solar.
100%!!!
That Is An
Awesome boat for the $$$$$
Agreed. Solid.
Hi! Newer subcriber here who's been watching for a few months. I'm also a professional chef and own a catering business for the last 33 years down here in Pennsylvania.
My wife and I are newbies just learning to sail and I'm wondering is it possible for these boats to still have any blister problems below the water line even though they're solid glass?
Also, isn't it a bad thing to have a shower drain into the bilge and if so, how would one go about fixing or changing that on this particular boat? (Is it even possible)?
Also, would you recommend a sailboat like this for a first sailboat for a newbie like my wife and I who've never had their own boat?
Thank you and really enjoy your channel!
I mean this as a great compliment - but you guys really filled the spot for Captain Q's channel which I really enjoyed and learned a lot. I really appreciate you showing older, more economical sailboats for all of us non-rich folks out here who really want to learn to sail but don't have half a million dollars or more to spend on a hobby!
Thank you for all your hard work finding these boats, filming while climbing all over them and all the hours of editing I'm sure goes into making really quality videos with a lot of good information that even a newbie can follow!
I've always wanted to take a ride up to Maine to check out some good seafood places and see the beautiful coast there.
Any recommendations as to what time of year is best to take a rode north and check out some fresh caught lobster and used sailboats?
Thank you and God bless!
Welcome aboard! Really appreciate your comments.
Ok, so blisters: yes, than can occur with solid FG hulls. But there were no apparent ones on this boat (a survey would be a must and reveal any issues).
As for the shower/head bilge issue: I didn’t pull things apart to see what could be done, but I am reasonably positive something could be done. The key is to keep hair and other stuff from getting down into the bilge and potentially gumming up your pump. And, as someone noted, this stuff can start to smell. However, it has been used as is since 1981… It is something that should be investigated but it wouldn’t be an emergency.
The seller’s wife loved this boat for the comfort, space, and the deep, safe cockpit. This boat could easily be handled but one or two people. And the storage capacity is off the charts (excuse the pun) - comparable to much larger boats. She packs a lot in there!
The best time to visit Maine, IMO, is September. It’s stunning up here and the crowds have thinned a bit.
Please feel free to email us directly at boatfools1@gmail.com if you want to discuss any or all of the above in more detail! Many thanks!
@boatfools great reply. Thank u.
@@boatfools thank you for the detailed reply.
Is this sailboat listed anywhere that I could see more detailed photos of it or is it best to contact the owner?
Also, is it a difficult process to have a survey done on a sailboat? Is it best to be there with the surveyor? How does one go about finding an honest surveyor - how can you trust someone you don't even know especially when you're new to sailing and never bought or owned a sailboat? Is it really necessary to get a survey done - is it really worth the cost - whatever that may be?
I may email you with some more questions.
Thanks again!
Here’s the link to the FB listing: facebook.com/share/1V17N1gwJL/?mibextid=79PoIi
You definitely want to get a survey done. I am happy to recommend a few. The survey will be great for listing things that should be done in order of priority which is very useful. You will likely need it for insurance purposes as well. You do not need to be there but it would certainly be helpful. In my experience, surveyors up this way like to do their thing (which can be most of a day), then go over critical findings at the end. A good surveyor will take the time to really go over things with you. If you’re new to sailing this is invaluable.
@@boatfoolsthank you for explaining this point about surveys. From watching other channels and reading some things, I've heard others who say that a survey is not necessarily neccessary. Their point (I think) was basically to get you out to sail and you can always work on things as you need to - not to spend a lot of money on a survey. Also, couldn't it be potentially expensive if you needed to have several surveys done on multiple boats because you're not sure which one to go with - especially as a newbie? I realize I don't know what I'm talking about but seriously, if the boat floats, the engine works, it has sails, and after walking around in it and on deck, nothing seems to be really obviously wrong with it, couldn't one purchase it and work out the bugs as they arise? Again, I realize I've never owned a boat before but I am good at working on old Chevys and bikes and good all around fixer upper, can do plumbing and some electical - I'm good with my hands. I guess I'm thinking how much different could walking around a boat be than checking out an old car. Maybe I'm way off base here. I admit that.
Solid fiberglass and encapsulated keel. It just doesn't get much better. Yep she needs some work but the stuff you can't fix is great. I guess my only question is there a generator on board and will the solar and batteries support the refrigerator for a couple of days of no sun? Keep the good stuff coming.
As always, thanks for your comments and thanks for watching!
With 500 watts of solar cloudy days will still charge the batteries unless it’s coming down in sheets. I would bet you could add another battery or two.
With 500 watts of solar cloudy days will still charge the batteries unless it’s coming down in sheets. I would bet you could add another battery or two.
Have you ever met a boat you didn't love? 😁
Haha! Those are few and far between! But, yes. And we don’t profile those because it probably wouldn’t go over well. And we don’t like to say terrible things about OPBs (other people’s boats). So, we showcase the boats we really like. It’s more fun that way!
Wiring in the engine space a mess.
Zip ties would take care of most of that.
Tall or short rig. What sail area?
Not aware of different rig sizes on these though I reckon it’s possible. Reported sail area is 539. Thanks for watching!
@ the boats for charter in the Caribbean had shorter masts.
These are on my short list and been wanting a good look around one, thanks for always profiling boats I like 😎
We do our best! Thank you for the comment and for watching!
depending on what you are looking for a similar boat is a Downeaster 38 or the 32 - a real undervalued lesser known "sleeper" - meaning they are not that well known so you can often find one at a real bargain ! We got ours for $1k and are just over 1 year into a 2yr refit. A Cabo Rico or a Bayfield 38 / 36 are also great boats of this era but typically pricey.
I want
Where is you crew, captain? 😄
Ha! He abandoned ship for the day! CK will be back!
When did the stern rail become a push pit?
I have no idea…but either works for me.
Growing up in the U.K. in the ‘50s, many cruising yachts had a pulpit but I don’t remember any having rails at the stern. The RORC boats (way above my pay scale) were starting to get them. I don’t know who first coined the word Pushpit though I’m pretty certain that I read about a new boat, “fitted with a stern pulpit”. It would only require a modicum of wit to re-name it.
I’m 80, been sailing all my life and this post is the first time I’ve heard “stern railing”. Taffrail was the traditional name for a stern railing on a ship but they’ve been called pushpits for as long as I can remember.
I vote we return to Taffrail, and possibly re name the for’ard one the Tiffrail.😅😊
aft pulpit? 🙃
From the front you have a Pull-pit.
From behind you have the Push-pit.
Makes sense
Those cabintop death spikes are a non-starter.
20 mins with a Dremel and a cutting disk put a spare nut on first to clean or the cut thread.
Yes. Easy fix…
I used to like those old Canada type sailboats. However, they are now too old, no sugar scoop transom, old engines, and basically unsellable. These things are worth maybe $5k now and going south. Kinda sad but most of them will be junked and scraped. Not a good time for old style mono hull sailboats as there are simply tens of thousands for sale and no buyers. But 20 and 30 years ago they were cool to have and fun!
Canadian Ken just crossed you off his Christmas card list! 😊
@@boatfools ..so true I suspect! But, as the saying goes: "Time waits for no man" and that is very true for these boats that seem to be getting older at a rate of 10 years per year..lol. Just too old now and not a single person I know "dreams" of having one. But in 2015 lots of people wanted them.. weird for sure. The great news is that there are now lots of modern sailboats built in this century that people are discovering to be awesome. Take a look at a Jenneau 409 and it simply blows away any of these old style sailboat. For years we were told that old boats were built better etc., but that myth has been so debunked that no one puts up with it anymore. Newer boats are so much better built. I used to believe all those old boat stories. Never again.
This is a 33??. Its huge
I know it! It’s bonkers how big she is.
A “fixer upper” for sure
That’s the hand we’ve been dealt. Champagne taste on a Budweiser budget. But we’re good with that. Take a spin around most harbors in Maine and you’ll find most boats are 20+ years old. Many are much older. And we’re all happy as clams. No harm ever came from a little hard work to make something shine like new again…
@@boatfools agree! There's something satisfying about fixing something old up and making it useable again. I used to help my dad fix up old Chevys. I'm 55 and my first car (in 1985) was a 1957 Chevy my dad and I bought for $1600 and drove it home from Carlisle Car Show here in PA! My friends called it the bumble bee because she was yellow with a black hard top😊. That's what me and my wife would like to do now - fix up an older sailboat and learn to sail (or maybe in reverse order, lol) just wish we lived closer to the ocean. That's part of the problem: even if we did buy a sailboat - where would we keep her? We live in southeast PA.
First ;-)
$28,500 and needs $20k plus in upgrades.....
Explain your math for the class? I don't see $20k in upgrades. One could sail this boat away right now and not have to do a thing other than wash it down.
Just love the head-banger kitchen cabinet with sharp edges hung in what is basically the center of the cabin. Nice 😂
You would have to try pretty hard to knock yourself on that. Hand holds everywhere and the corners are rounded. Actually useful to have it there on your way down the companionway- something to brace yourself against if needed.
@@boatfools
Yes. Mine did not gave one so I had to measure from another boat and build one in mine. Very handy to have.
I had a Westerly Centaur for many years and wanted something bigger. I was determined to find something in the mid to upper 30 ft range with a center cockpit and aft cabin. Drove from Maryland to Florida looking for one in decent shape I could afford. Had to be shoal draft too!
Saw one of these in a yard, and though a big keel it looked interesting. Climbed up the ladder to the cockpit and settled in. Like you, I felt very safe in there. Walked around the deck and loved the broad forecabin top - and the foredeck, so nicely recessed. But looking down thought, “that’s a long way down… more keel than I want”.
I went in the companionway and stopped halfway down. Looked around at all the light, the space, the galley on the far side of the double sinks just to my left, and the lovely nav station on my right. I decided then and there I had to have one of these, (whatever it was).
Took me about a year to find one that was best for me. That was 19 yrs ago and I’m still happy. The aft cabin would have been nice… but I’m happy.
Btw, most, like mine, have gold trail boards on each side of the bow. Really frames the clipper bow nicely.
If you want to go "cheap," don't buy anything with an engine compartment that can sink you at the dock! Liability insurance stops at age fifty for a reason!
“Needs a little work” that’s an understatement. Sorry, but you sound like the stereotypic used car salesman on this one.
She does need some work and I point out the things that need it. But she's a rare, solid boat and, IMO, worthy of a close look for someone interested in a liveaboard or a solid cruiser.
@ I want you to know I am a sub and like your channel filling the void of the departure from TH-cam of Capt. Q. I almost did not comment because being critical is not how I usually respond to any video. Especially after seeing your obvious enthusiasm for this boat. Of course this is my opinion, but it seemed as if every part of the ship you commented on directly contradicted what my eyes were telling me. Except for condition of the hill, to me it actually looked pretty good in the video. Anyway keep the reviews coming. By the way I have a place on Islesboro, not to far from your location. Maybe the chance to say hi one of these days could happen. Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment.
@@jimc3891 always happy to take feedback! One of the issues is that the boat had not been cleaned and was in the process of being winterized. It was also raining and dreary - which didn't help. The v-berth needed attention, the wiring in the engine compartment needed some zip ties, and the decks needed a good scrub. Sure, there are other items that need attention (mostly cosmetic), but that boat was ready to go, IMO (good sails, newer GPS, solid engine, and solid hull/deck). Again, we're talking an asking price of $28,500 - not $75,000 or $100k. Basically the cost of a good used car (used car salesman!:)). I did say at the outset that she's a WIP and not perfect, so hopefully everyone keeps that in mind when they look at her! Do you live in Islesboro year round?!? Do you have a boat out there? Always happy to meet fellow boafools - especially ones right in our neighborhood!
I don't like the hard dodger, it's awkward looking.. I would prefer to spend 38 or 40 and have it all perfect
Just take it off…
@boatfools ya I suppose.. I am still shopping, have seen a couple csy that I like, there is a lot of choice these days, prices are down. I also like the nav station to face forward, I am always by myself.. No need to shout instructions up the companionway.. That one needs more work then I am willing to do, I think. I am looking at a pristine Ts Shing Baba 30, may end up getting the deal I want on it. A bit in the way of having a weather helm issue, but as long as you are aware, it's no problem really. Makes heaving to in weather easier.
This is a 33ft boat with a 25 foot waterline....thats a big discrepancy
All your running costs will be for a 33 fter and you have the liveable space of a 25fter.
For instance a catalina 30 has more liveable space than this 33fter.
This interior is not large,its cramped, and dark...an 8 ft discrepancy between overall length and waterline length...
Cabin space is small,cramped and dark.
This boat interior would drive me insane
Dark? The saloon is surrounded by windows.
One thing you cannot say about a CSY 33 is “dark”. No they are flooded with light.
There is no comparison between the two boats. Completely different. Two easy examples: the CSY carries more than 100 gallons of water and more than 60 gallons of diesel. I do not believe the Catalina comes close to that. Not saying one is better than the other, they were designed and built for different uses. And to say the interior is dark and cramped is definitely inaccurate. It was a gray, rainy day when I filmed and that interior is anything but dark and cramped. Appreciate the comments though!
Right? If they’re talking about the v-berth I explained why it is the way it is. An easy fix. The rest of the space is wide open and bright… Go figure!