Dungeons and Dragons Lore : The Abyss

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  • Infinite planes of chaotic evil madness? Sure, let's go!
    Here is a handy table for creating your own Abyssal realm.
    Roll d20 (or roll twice and combine the result)
    1- Air-dominant-zero gravity, crags drifting through raging storms.
    2- Ash-blowing dunes of ashes
    3- Battleground-Blood War or other massive, brutal conflict
    4- City-warrens and slums to citadels and palaces, teeming with demons
    5- Earth-dominant-solid rock tunneled by the inhabitants
    6- Fire-dominant-everburning flames with salamanders, etc.
    7- Delusion-appears to be Normal but the flowers are poisonous or the trees attack
    8- Desert-endless tracts of black, white, or red sand with no water
    9- Glacier-infinite black, white, or orange ice with few rocky peaks breaking the surface
    10- Hellscape-a burning mix of magma, rock, and belching brimstone
    11- Maelstrom-swirling, bubbling chaos like Limbo
    12- Mountainous-rocky crags, precipitous cliffs, soaring peaks
    13- Negative-dominant-A void or bleak rocks floating in space
    14- Normal-similar to a Prime plane with various nasty flora and fauna
    15- Ocean-a trackless ocean, with a surface
    16- Salt-crystalline badlands or desert
    17- Sea-of acid, blood, garbage, insects, oil, or worms, etc.
    18- Swamp-noisome bog inhabited by predators
    19- Undead-specters, spooks, and ghosts in endless crypts
    20- Water-dominant-nightmarish creatures in the bottomless murk
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  • @willrogers3793
    @willrogers3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    “Devils are what you would get if you gave phenomenal godlike powers to a bunch of divorce attorneys, loan sharks and dictators. Demons are what you would get if you combined the concept of hatred itself with a black hole. Now, here’s the kicker: the divorce attorneys, loan sharks and dictators are undeniably horrible, but they’re also the ones in charge of keeping the giant angry black hole from eating the universe.”
    - my Stepdad, explaining the difference between Devils and Demons to 12-year-old me.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Sound about right

    • @caplorunnin
      @caplorunnin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's amazing actually. Can I rip that off? I'll give credit to your dad

    • @willrogers3793
      @willrogers3793 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@caplorunnin 👍

  • @thevoidcritter
    @thevoidcritter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Realization: the infinite nature of the Abyss and the fact that there are a bunch of undiscovered layers is basically an open invitation for DMs to make their own demon lords (who canonically would probably be lesser known/less influential, but whatever)

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Absolutely.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Make the layer where everything is peaceful, I mean it, no catch, just a clean enviroment where you can settle down and live there, demon still acting the same though

    • @FathersUnited-fu
      @FathersUnited-fu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want to make a plan where the Demon Lord is entertained by the pain mortals feel through loss etc so he/she allows people to live etc without being completely decimated. It's as close to normal life in the Abyss someone can have in. Still harsh & horrible with the threat of demons is constant & the BBEG themselves. But, survivable. The BBEG gets to feed or whatever through the everyday sadnesses of the harsh life in the Abyss. Party ends up there somehow & yeah. Throw demons at them.

  • @skullmonkey2557
    @skullmonkey2557 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I'm pretty sure that the abyss was created by the Shard of Pure evil and it keeps getting deeper because the shard of pure evil bores it deeper and deeper hence why it's considered infinite

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want to put that shard on a stick

    • @nonbiri6966
      @nonbiri6966 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the shard is the 4e origin story for the Abyss. It's my favorite, but there are others.

    • @bennettmills9667
      @bennettmills9667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually yes that is known cannon

  • @OmusKnowsAll
    @OmusKnowsAll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I've talked with my spiritual friend who is well versed in many faiths and esoteriscisms and the conclusion I have come to is thus; to defeat the abyss you need to have a really cool, Lord of the Rings quality campaign that focuses on moral and ethical victories, the metaphysical purpose of the Abyss and all other planes while at the same time, you and your party achieving Apotheosis.
    Interestingly, back in the day (Greco-Egyptian) Abussos was not necessarily bad but something you had to pass through when you die.
    The idea being you need to peice yourself back together after ego death.

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Zachary Adams hate to break it you, buuuut...as long as the idea of evil exists, so too will the abyss. Any attempts at removing it, sooner or later, another will just appear

    • @otisjohnreidy4739
      @otisjohnreidy4739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@johnnyscifi fair point, fair point. But, hear me out now, counterpoint- that would be no fun.

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If mere gods could do something about it then the newest generation of demons would not exist. Demons formed from the consumed and corrupted corpses of gods arrogant enough to believe they could strike at the abyss and not have it strike back. Maybe the Overgod could do something but so far that being has either chosen not to and cannot do anymore than they have. So the Abyss can be assumed to be a true existential threat to all of reality, gods included.

  • @Cabio_
    @Cabio_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Putting Artorias at 8:08 when introducing the ways to contain the abyss was spot on. Bravo!

  • @cernunnos_lives
    @cernunnos_lives ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Man just the way AJ gets the lore like this in incredible. It definitely gets your audience going. You are one of the better things about D&D lore on TH-cam here.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate it

  • @jonathanwells223
    @jonathanwells223 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    They are rage, brutal, without mercy.

  • @maximusmedia8412
    @maximusmedia8412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    “In the abyss, there is nothing impartial but death. For all living creatures death is sure to eventually come. Death is the equalizer, it is an absolute truth, and it’s always lingering just within reach of us. People make the best use of their wits and courage, struggling, floundering, they cling to life until the very end, and soon we realize, this unjust and indifferent world, it’s just the way we like it”

    • @TheTigerfirepro
      @TheTigerfirepro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just wrote the monologue of my abyss BBEG. I thank you

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    “Nothing is too destructive” Immediately shows a Terrasque.

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I have a paradise layer I created in my campaigns. Reality TV was not yet a thing. People in that paradise are inspired to conflict with each other, often manipulated into it. It was enjoyed a bunch of times. My players loved using the device to transport them there. One player with a True Seeing artifact saw it for what it was. Every inhabitant was a succubus or disintegrating soul and their healing there was the thing that bolstered their enemy's attacks on them, damage wise. One of my player's Quasite familiars spoke up at the time of the discovery. "Don't worry. It's a succubi plane. They actually follow rules more than any other demon should. Master, I say we move there." The CE mage was hated by the other players at that point. So... the "paradise plane" was ghosted. That did not stop the inhabitants from trying to get them to come back. Also, I always treated The Abyss as an infinite chaotic evil plane. The whole layering number is and was a ruse to make people believe that there is some form of order. In my campaigns, I have a precedent on how to run them called "cubing the sphere". No, it's not like the 2nd Ed spell of that name. It is a rule I created because I was used to gamers that read all the related books and MOST cannot plan their tactics on a new creature to their character without the knowledge of the books. I slightly alter all life with every new campaign, "cubing the sphere". It made many people who read up on the monsters backfire with special tactics that only people who read the DM material knew before-hand would know... bad role-play backfire. I had a special Sehaguin god avatar get special power and heal by electricity. I had Bronze Golems heal against cold magic even though they are immune to fire and splatter molten metal on anyone that damage them... I wrote that in as a forging nugget. I had Red Dragons go from being vulnerable to cold to being vulnerable to corrosive gas (the Gold Dragon 2nd breath weapon akin to Green Dragons). Sorry for the rant but I am getting to a point. Beings from The Abyss, I almost abuse Cubing the Sphere. I pull things out of the air. I roll a die and apply that many weaknesses and that many strengths. Usually one and one, but I roll a die for the "boss fights". Even my veteran players are wary of Abyssal beings.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Interesting take on the abyss, reminds me of what the spellweavers plan to do to the multiverse.

  • @kevinburke5463
    @kevinburke5463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been playing D&D since it's inception in 1974. In 1977, I created a 1st ed. fighter/ranger. It took twenty years of solid playing for my character to reach a cumulative level of 114. In 1997 we were playing the last module of the four module Bloodstone campaign. My character, and four of his adventuring companions of equally high level, finally made it to The Palace of Bones (Orcus's main place of residence) in the Abyss. Even with my character as high level as he was, he still had his toughest battle ever when he squared off with Orcus himself. His companions dealt with the numerous demons and undead that were summoned in during the battle. Eventually, my character defeated Orcus. However, he himself was severely beaten and battered in the epic battle. The Abyss and its denizens, especially the demon lords, is no joke!!

    • @irgendeineperson5350
      @irgendeineperson5350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol, hope you had fun.

    • @cernunnos_lives
      @cernunnos_lives ปีที่แล้ว

      OMG I've never made it past 18th level

    • @BrianM-44041
      @BrianM-44041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's pretty unrealistic. You would still lose like a baby fighting a pit bull.

  • @Mondy667
    @Mondy667 7 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Watching both Warhammer 40k and Dungeons and Dragons while Reading the SCP Foundation is hard

    • @dragonballtalk8527
      @dragonballtalk8527 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Raymond Narvaez piss in the abyss

    • @bluecollarcanuck
      @bluecollarcanuck 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Makes me wonder, did some SCPs like The Flesh That Hates spring forth from the Abyss?

    • @samaustin339
      @samaustin339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Possibly

    • @cboom3205
      @cboom3205 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@bluecollarcanuck a lot of these universes have eldritch abominations as the most ancient beings in existance, maybe they all connected

    • @TheWarwolf102
      @TheWarwolf102 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Throw in the Cuthulu Mythos too

  • @sargonixofur1234
    @sargonixofur1234 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Everyone gangsta until 3E Demogorgon or Orcus show up.
    Keep your 5E easy mode.

    • @BrianM-44041
      @BrianM-44041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1st edition was all we ever needed. Orcus is a boss

  • @destonlee2838
    @destonlee2838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Demonic Taint. And thus my next homebrewed fermented hot sauce was named.

  • @BrianM-44041
    @BrianM-44041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Quick pointer: hold onto the wand of orcus for 30 days in a random abyssal layer and you automatically become a demon lord or prince. Shouldnt be too hard, eh?

  • @jaradonwigington1936
    @jaradonwigington1936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he there by become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche~

    • @alessiakrone8915
      @alessiakrone8915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said

    • @couragew6260
      @couragew6260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A good quote as well as a good summary of what the abyss is and what is can do to you

  • @michaelscotts3949
    @michaelscotts3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    (Your face when) you find out the abyss is actually nothing more than an intentionally guided creation of THEE mega dungeon that if you reach the end earns you a position as an Overdiety.

  • @PungiFungi
    @PungiFungi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    There are many layers of the Abyss that can contain numerous disparate realms like Layer 99 in Tales From the Outer Plane. One can be similar to a layer of Carceri, planetoids floating in an airy void, each orb reflecting the nature of the petty demon noble that rules it. Another layer can be shaped like a tesseract like the Dancing Hut of Baba Yaga with each realm on one side of the tesseract.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, the very nature of the Abyss is chaos, so, pretty much anything is possible. :)

  • @temmy9
    @temmy9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my favorite was Ojukalazogadit. The layer is in fact a single vast demon prince.

  • @samaustin339
    @samaustin339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So basically the Abyss is an infection? Interesting concept!

  • @atilax6452
    @atilax6452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    AJ, I have to tell you. I found your channel a couple weeks ago and I have been binge-watching your videos.
    And having a GREAT TIME!
    Thanks man. I really appreciate your work.

  • @Fibonochos
    @Fibonochos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am astounded that spells like summon lesser or greater demon don't have text that says something like, "roll on this table to see if a devil or celestial comes to murder you for siding with the enemy"

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is simple. Mortals are exempt from those rules. That is not to say they are unaware or apathetic but that they are contained by divine law to only get involved under very specific conditions. Sides, why would a devil attack you for giving them a possible free ticket to uncounted potential souls?

  • @robk8463
    @robk8463 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It says something about the Drow that even Demons give them a modicum of respect.

  • @stevenpeterson8582
    @stevenpeterson8582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I once introduced an adventuring party to a layer of the Abyss that looked like an idealized pastoral place filled with Care Bears, Smurfs, and My Little Ponies (all with demon powers and abilities). The players quickly declared this to be the 666th layer, the foulest and most evil plane in existence. A demon from this realm that escaped into the mortal world was a Raggedy Ann with medusa powers, but instead of stone her petrification turned people into plush and stuffing.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I find that even more terrifying

    • @pancakes8670
      @pancakes8670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the Abyss is supposedly Infinite, then that could be a very real layer

    • @josephweymon8020
      @josephweymon8020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll never look at Smurfs the same again.

  • @spunkyspaz
    @spunkyspaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just like that they are again called Devils and Demons. As someone who started with AD&D 1st ed. and lived through the 'Satanic panic' I always hated Baatezu and Tanar'ri (Obyrith, Loumara ... )
    Refreshing to get back to that at least even if everything else has changed.
    Yes, I know they are still often called Baatezu and Tanar'ri but many people ignore those terms.

    • @Insertfunnycomment
      @Insertfunnycomment 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why do you hate it? I honestly like those terms more; devils and demons sounds too generic to me.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funnily enough, they’re still using Yugoloth as the middle kid instead of Daemon

  • @michaelscotts3949
    @michaelscotts3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Reminds me of something I read in the past that the only reason the blood war remains a stalemate is because the demons fight eachother as much if not more than the devils and should they decide to simply work together and swarm the devils then the demons would swarm all realms and win.

  • @smokycovestudios
    @smokycovestudios 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Descriptions of the layers in the Abyss is an itch I just can't scratch enough. Do a video for every know layer please. ;p

    • @atilax6452
      @atilax6452 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GORELORD13 - Not just the known levels.
      Do videos on the unknown levels too!

    • @tonyh1718
      @tonyh1718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If the abyss is infinite, imagine a layer and it exists
      Same things with demon lords, if you imagine one it exists
      My theory on this is: while they may exist, they are outside of the true power structures we know in the source material
      In essence, the abyss is so vast, connects to so many prime worlds that my home brew abyssal lords cernios, vulvbra and qu'trac'jus terrorize my world and ally, backstab, reconcile with each other constantly, in the abyss the true powers like demogorgon et al barely know of them. To the lords close to their own layers, yes theyre well known, just not to most other abyssal lords and certainly not mortal sages

  • @shamusfarmer
    @shamusfarmer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would LOVE to hear some descriptions of random abyssal layers! Your description of Franz..Urloo-whatever's domain was down right captivating. And there are so many layers to choose from, too!

  • @dreammirrorbrony1240
    @dreammirrorbrony1240 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    According to the original manuel of the planes, one of the abysal realms was sentinant; the entire plane was alive and filled with malice at intruders. I always thought that was kick ass but to be avoided if possible.

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would think the void layer would be the layer you want to avoid the most.

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Basically the devils are the representation of necessary evil whereas the demons are the embodiment of chaos in its purest form.

    • @km1dash6
      @km1dash6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I disagree. Chaos in it's purest form is in Limbo. There is no malicious nature, no intention, no desire. All those things give things order. There is no demon that wants peace. Their consistency is in their evil nature and desire for destruction, torment, and suffering.
      Demons are honestly the biggest threat to the multiverse. The idea of a great balance is a lie. What should happen is the devils should be assisted in killing all demons, destroying the abyss, and then all the forces of good can kill off all the forces of lawful evil. That would end the blood war, but it would also end a large source of conflict for the D&D multiverse, so no one will actually try it.

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. Devils are Tyranny, demons are evil, with no regard for structure. Close...:)

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In God terms...Bane v Cyric

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kyle limbo being chaotic neutral

    • @johnnyscifi
      @johnnyscifi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ps: chaos isnt inherently evil, or good

  • @kevinchristiansen4348
    @kevinchristiansen4348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always seen the abyss as the demons that show up in it.. starts out you feel violated as a manes, ends up as you take all that forbidden knowledge and use it for your own advantage like the sibriex, then you act like the balor

  • @p.rabbitt4914
    @p.rabbitt4914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So what about the "Shard of Pure Evil" at the heart of the Abyss- what is it exactly? Where did it come from? What properties does it have? How can it be reached? And can it be destroyed?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The more recent videos answer these questions, The wind dukes, obyrith, astral Dreadnaught videos in particular.

    • @p.rabbitt4914
      @p.rabbitt4914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AJPickett ok thanks. I will check those out.

  • @mudshrooze
    @mudshrooze 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoy the Abyss. Well some of it. Specifically Juiblex and the oozes and Zuggtmoy. As well as the Nalfeshnee race

  • @zmishiymishi5349
    @zmishiymishi5349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    83b5'th layer of the Abyss is a place, where actual ground is covered with orange and blue strings, trying to cover everything that isn't in constant motion. Basically everything is trying to choke players and absorb them as string puppets in services to THE LOOM!

  • @baronbeat2210
    @baronbeat2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since the abyss is a lower plane maybe it’s decaying due to it being filled with negative energy. That’s part of the reason they need to add new layers.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Abyss is alive.

  • @dynamicworlds1
    @dynamicworlds1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It should be after the more normal denizens of the abyss for full effect and context, but I'd love to see one on the Bebilith.
    A spider infestation worthy of the abyss.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oh wow! I just realised they are not in the 5th edition monster manual.. well we better remedy that!

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yah, they're in the core pathfinder monster manual and I know I read a more extensive bit on them somewhere (such as one of the "X Monsters Revisited" books) but I'm not sure where and I can't find it anymore.

    • @TheRedneckGamer1979
      @TheRedneckGamer1979 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bebelith are a hell of a thing. Back in 2e a high level party of adventurers (i was gm for this game) traveled to the abyss in order to retrieve a celestial artifact that was stolen and hidden in one of the dark planes of the abyss (the now abandoned demon web pits of Llolth )found a bebelith, thought it was just some left over pet of llolth, got completely wrecked by that thing.

    • @BrianM-44041
      @BrianM-44041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lolths demonweb pits enter the chat...

  • @spectralimages8961
    @spectralimages8961 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Surely Tiamat should own a plain within the Abyss? instead of kinda tacked onto the 9 hells as an afterthought. As a complete force of destruction and utter primordial power and predation and selfish gain, her and dragon flights / spawn are uniquely suited and able to wage an endless war for it's own thrill? if I recall does not her own realm within Krynn's lore get called the "Abyss"?
    And if not, hell what a twist if the ultimate answer to supress the power of the Abyss is Tiamat and the Chromatic Dragons?

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tiamat is a god and has yet to deign to conquer a layer of the abyss. I suppose she could as any being of sufficient power can claim a layer but not sure she has reason to.

    • @MrChaosAdam
      @MrChaosAdam 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's too cool for our expectations.

    • @DetectiveBarricade
      @DetectiveBarricade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacobfreeman5444 Tiamat is shackled to reside within Avernus, the first layer of the Nine Hells. The reason and circumstances for her being there are likely known only to her and Asmodeus, but she's definitely not free to go barging into the Abyss.

  • @kevinchristiansen4348
    @kevinchristiansen4348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd say the abyss is the negative energy that dwells within us all..
    you put it out in life then go into eternity and it stays, doesn't disintegrate just adds up and changes into worse and worse until armageddon lol

  • @oliviabean8264
    @oliviabean8264 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel sorry for those poor hypothetical artificial beings.

  • @Yeanmoh
    @Yeanmoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thats all i wanted to know about the difference between hell and the abyss a lot of holes fixed thank you so much because after the glasya video i was sorta confused

  • @4ltimit1
    @4ltimit1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I scrolled down to find anyone else asking about the image at 10:32. That's a nice picture but I don't recognize who it is of.
    The Abyss appears to be the primary cause of warps in reality. Could it be that mortal magic is demonic in origin?
    How much magic existed before the shard tore into the elemental chaos? Was magic only used by gods?
    Perhaps all magic in use by mortals is ichor and belief is how gods heal. The shard tore reality and the weave is the fray?

    • @naterbater1453
      @naterbater1453 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should check out the Prince of nothing series

    • @4ltimit1
      @4ltimit1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes I feel like I'm quoting something I haven't read. Is that how magic works in that series?
      There is always something else I need to read. Thanks for the suggestion. :)

    • @matheusmterra
      @matheusmterra 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a fan art depicting Slaanesh, a chaos god of Warhammer fantasy, lord of excess and lust.

    • @Birbucifer
      @Birbucifer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats funny that you say that, because your theory is exactly how magic works in Warhammer 40k.

    • @4ltimit1
      @4ltimit1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't played 40K yet but the asymmetrical mechanics fascinate me.

  • @kevinm3428
    @kevinm3428 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great vid! Further reading of the Planescape box set Planes of Chaos D&D 2nd Ed is a good place to start.

  • @saravelasco5807
    @saravelasco5807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Listening to this made me think of Hollow Nnight and its fallen kingdom Hallownest. There is a area formally called the Abyss, but it has been known to extend to parts of Hallownest. I know this isn’t a Hollow Knight channel, but is it possible that parts of Hollownest, if not the entire kingdom, are actually an extension of the Abyss outsiders (this case being bugs) keep trying to control and eventually fail?
    I love dnd and have most recently become interested in Hollow Knight. Might even build a DnD campaign with Hollow Knight elements mixed in.

  • @JJSeattle
    @JJSeattle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    665th layer - go through portal and on your "fall" a wind fillets the flesh from your bones...repeat the portal "fall", infinite loop --- ooooo damn, that would be horrific.

  • @JoseMolina-ij3xx
    @JoseMolina-ij3xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the SCP Universe, The Obyrith are called Pattern Screamers. The Sibriex may be responsible for Sarkicism in the SCP Universe.

  • @rickeymariu1
    @rickeymariu1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me you can take control of certain layers. Like 1-50 but you can't take control over all of it because it is so massive and always changing. The new Lawful forces can stop the plains they are on from changing but only so long as they hold power.

  • @Claycanplay
    @Claycanplay ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to another installment of RPG Lore online!

  • @TraciPeteyforlife
    @TraciPeteyforlife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Find the shard of evil in the abyss and get rid of it. Then the abyss loses its power or blows up. My money on the abyss to punt the Devils if the blood wars break out again.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If Obox-Ob is ever restored to full power, the Abyss will once again tear into the multiverse and reality for gods and mortals alike will become a nightmare blend of elemental chaos and the Far Realm.

    • @TraciPeteyforlife
      @TraciPeteyforlife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would be really scary. As would what Demogorgon's response to all someone trying to replace him.

  • @SomeGuy-qh6rw
    @SomeGuy-qh6rw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Pazuzu is where the really interesting lore is. He pretty much had a hand in the rules for the entire Universe through manipulating Asomdeus.

    • @BrianM-44041
      @BrianM-44041 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turns out ruling the skies has its perks

  • @someoneonyoutube8622
    @someoneonyoutube8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So the abyss has always been fascinating to me and I want to run a campaign at some point that would have the party delve within its depths to confront a demon lord that is causing them problems. (Obviously at higher levels)
    The issue is that even at higher levels the abyss strikes me as the kind of place that is danger incarnate and suicide to explore but I don’t want to totally tpk the party by having them be swarmed by the hoards of demons that roam about. (I know It’s a party of 4 not a platoon of devils but I have trouble suspending disbelief that the hoards would just ignore the presence of mortals without a significant reason why they wouldn’t know they were there or why they wouldn’t care)
    Essentially I want to get the feel of danger and some decently challenging encounters without either babying the players or killing my players outright.
    Anyone have any tips?

    • @qualitativelyindoxed2488
      @qualitativelyindoxed2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alright so here is the way to run a abyss campaign first off...
      don't! Through any attempt to get your players into the abyss they will attempt to get out a soon as possible however if they cannot excape first thing your going to want to do is Explain the enviorment and all the ways it can kill them. (the key it to have it seem that it could kill them at any time then through them finding a way to excape the demons will eventually find out that a group of random mortals came around and well... who knows what happens probably some sort of trial and error have everything chaotic and evil as you can think of just not happing to them.

    • @qualitativelyindoxed2488
      @qualitativelyindoxed2488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just make the experience as chaotic and evil as possible just not torwards your players, Nothsa Rekcap. Remember: the main rule to the abyss is survival, to kill or to be killed everything else goes and sometimes not even that.

  • @leadingauctions8440
    @leadingauctions8440 ปีที่แล้ว

    "it is akin to refusing to breathe or eat"
    I shall remember to use that one with my players.

  • @michaelkelligan7931
    @michaelkelligan7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I recently bought a small cottage on tbe 66th layer of the Abyss just a few blocks away from Lolths pad! Shes such a sweet neighbor never nosy and she always cleans up after her dog does his business on the front lawn 😎 I live a charmed life! 👹😈👺👿

  • @hysterical5408
    @hysterical5408 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is the time of demons, it is the time of chaos!

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When it comes to demon ecology videos, expect the unexpected.

  • @moregasmthepowerful2959
    @moregasmthepowerful2959 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How does a Maine (Mane, Main?) get promoted to a greater form? Is it by time, by deed or something else?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Three ways.. first, Manes get killed all the time, but they dissolve into a putrid mist and simply reform after a day, unless they are consumed by a Demon Lord, in which case their essence is consumed and utterly destroyed. On very rare occasions, a particularly destructive and resourceful Mane is transformed into a higher order of demon, this is usually the action of a Demon Lord, simply expending energy to create a larger force of demons, or it may happen spontaneously, when large numbers of demons are slain and reforming, or the Mane can slowly grow in power by consuming other Manes. Manes are the fodder of the Abyss, and their existence is constant agony, so, they are always 100% ready to charge into suicidal combat, as death, even a temporary one, is their only relief. Manes are sometimes abused in highly creative and brutal fashion, sometimes rendered into parts for infernal machines of destruction, sometimes mutated into twisted beasts or more specialised, mute and tormented servitors.

  • @jordanhoke9025
    @jordanhoke9025 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In my cosmos you can't destroy realms limbo can't exist if machines is destroyed there must be evil for there to be good and there must be law for there to be chaos

  • @chanceroberts7494
    @chanceroberts7494 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is super creative writing.

  • @migcasas1
    @migcasas1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    what about those that constantly worship demons? coz we have followers that are faithful to Orcus or Lolth and yet they're not usually torn apart the moment they summon them.

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not torn apart, but all demons corrupt whatever the deal with, in some way.
      This is a universal constant.

    • @mikifauns
      @mikifauns 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I presume when you summon Orcus, he boops your nose and turns you into a lich or vampire.

    • @TraciPeteyforlife
      @TraciPeteyforlife 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mikifauns I tend to presume that he hauls off and hits you with a club. If you manage not to die then ok your worthy of working for him for a bit. Then until he gets to murder the whole multiverse. Honestly Orcus is one of the more insane threats to all life. I'm shocked Bane's church hasn't tried to get rid of him. Bane's ideology is like the Nine Hells. You would think they would want Orcus gone. Him and Graz'zt both should be on most churches hit lists.

  • @lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312
    @lucifiaofthefreecouncil1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The difference between demons and devils is plain as day but what I don't understand is what's the difference between demons and Primordials? they are both chaotic evil they are both of chaos i mean hell what's the difference between the abyss and the elemental chaos? >_

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Primordials generally don't have much to do with souls and don't give a toss about mortal life.

  • @annab1185
    @annab1185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    19:55 isn’t a demon, he’s an elder ask and his name is Ulamog from the Blind Eternities which is the space between the different worlds of Magic.

    • @ifoldyougo6517
      @ifoldyougo6517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I assume it's harder to find art for the more eldritch-like massive demons so he probably had to find the closest approximation, and besides, it's d&d. Anything can be anything here

    • @hejtamo7923
      @hejtamo7923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      eldrazi actually feel like oberyths of dnd universe, they bot have that old god lovecraftian theme around themselves

  • @mrl9418
    @mrl9418 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How comes Lolth made her home in the abyss, isn't she lawful? Or did they change her alignment?
    Same for vampires, aren't they lawful as a basic trait ? Should t they have a different origin/ patron that isn't Orcus? Someone lawful, evil I mean.
    What about the effect yeenogu has on minotaurs? What is it?

    • @DetectiveBarricade
      @DetectiveBarricade 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think he confused Yeenoghu with Baphomet regarding minotaurs. Lolth is Chaotic Evil.

  • @jprp999
    @jprp999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Abyss is like a box of chocolates...

  • @gildedbear5355
    @gildedbear5355 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    numbering, naming, describing, and mapping the "layers" of The Abyss is just lawful beings (likely the devils) trying to apply some sort of order to what is, in actuality, a writhing mass of shifting chaos 8)

  • @OmusKnowsAll
    @OmusKnowsAll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video by the way!

  • @el3ctricboogaloo609
    @el3ctricboogaloo609 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There might also be only 333 layers because that's how many gems Tharizdun has.

  • @kennykroeger1904
    @kennykroeger1904 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice start to the series. Any info on this is welcome.

  • @NWLR-tv
    @NWLR-tv 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:15 that must be the ballsiest person in the world

    • @NWLR-tv
      @NWLR-tv 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      nevermind 13:30 there the ballsiest people in the world

  • @axelthouin4389
    @axelthouin4389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool. Is there any change with the abysse in the last edition?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  ปีที่แล้ว

      They would have to actually write some lore for a change, so, not really no.

  • @virtualcircle285
    @virtualcircle285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rick James dwells in the Abyss

  • @KossolaxtheForesworn
    @KossolaxtheForesworn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    lets sprinkle some warp dust on that cake and we are ready to go.

  • @Killahurtz260
    @Killahurtz260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really hope Balder's Gate III lets you explore this place.

  • @Shakkarz
    @Shakkarz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man thanks I love this the monster manual like I said in some of my old text my first monster manual I want to say I was about 9 maybe 12 years old I had a weird upbringing born in December a Sagittarius

  • @robertoakes5117
    @robertoakes5117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One hell of an intro bro! \m/

  • @angetalelbari2196
    @angetalelbari2196 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love a video on the Queen of Chaos and Mishka the wolf spider

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      oooo well, you must be a fan of the rod of seven parts!

  • @blackdragonxtra
    @blackdragonxtra 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video is... abysmal (not really, I just couldn't resist the pun)

  • @iGuttsi
    @iGuttsi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do the demon web pits!!! that would be so amazing

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Demonweb pits are currently vacant. The rent is very reasonable, as long as you don't mind feeding minions to spindly legged horrors.

  • @michaelscotts3949
    @michaelscotts3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait around 18 minutes in it said unclaimed souls end up in the abyss. I thought unclaimed souls ended up in the very bottom of the 9 hells where Admodeus true body is that he feeds off of to restore his original body? Alongside those who not only dont worship one but actively fight against and hate?

    • @irgendeineperson5350
      @irgendeineperson5350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I may not remember correctly, but don't go atheist to Asmodeus? Also Neutral character go to him.

  • @kingjaythegreatest9749
    @kingjaythegreatest9749 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Has demons and devils ever worked together before? Can they work together for a common goal?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The only instance I can think of is where the Blood War was paused for a little while to deal with the Mindflayers, who were taking over the prime material plane.

  • @88yoho
    @88yoho ปีที่แล้ว

    19:47 sir demons don’t have annihilator 🤣

  • @chabreed3714
    @chabreed3714 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video are you from New Zealand mate

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure am :)

  • @OsirisXY
    @OsirisXY 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't find a canon reference for the manitou. Where did you find your resource material?

  • @cameronmurrell-byrd7738
    @cameronmurrell-byrd7738 ปีที่แล้ว

    My detect evil senses are tingling

  • @howardbaxter2514
    @howardbaxter2514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How does one even discover all these layers?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Painfully

    • @howardbaxter2514
      @howardbaxter2514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AJPickett yeah, that makes sense for most layers, but for some, like layer 665, how do you even discover and record such a layer without dying?

  • @Thorerx
    @Thorerx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do you have a video about kostchichi?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kostchtchie, giant demon lord of Wrath. No, but I can add him to my list.

    • @Thorerx
      @Thorerx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're the best AJ.

    • @bradmccann1093
      @bradmccann1093 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do we have this video yet, guys? I would love a link

  • @contreciel5488
    @contreciel5488 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo!!!i like this bit ya know once you say the abyss is a flaw or blight I think it’s a bit of a weird turn but I’m about it god bless

  • @shamusfarmer
    @shamusfarmer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey AJ, ever thought about doing videos of D&D content you've homebrewed? I know you are or will be offering to do that as a paid service, but how about a free sample? I'd personally love to see a detailed run down of a new plane of the Abyss or maybe the Far Realm...

  • @someoneonyoutube8622
    @someoneonyoutube8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m wanting to run a campaign where the players at higher levels go into the abyss to fight a demon lord that has been messing with their minds, but the abyss as is very clear seems incredibly hostile and I don’t want to kill my players by having them swarmed constantly and without a chance for a long or short rest as soon as they enter the abyss, is there any way you could reasonably survive in the abyss when traveling there???

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most of the abyss is fairly demon sparse, they tend to mass up around the big bads and so there are large areas with not many demons around. If the characters DO NOT DRAW ATTENTION THROUGH ANY DESTRUCTION OR VIOLENCE they may remain under the demon radar. Otherwise, they will get swarmed and torn to bits.

    • @someoneonyoutube8622
      @someoneonyoutube8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AJPickett interesting I hadn’t considered that before thanks for the help

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@someoneonyoutube8622 any time 🙂

    • @someoneonyoutube8622
      @someoneonyoutube8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AJPickett yeah the whole plot is sort of based on a similar concept to the roko’s basilisk thought experiment but with a dnd twist of what if an inevitable ended up getting corrupted by the abyss and now there’s a flaw in its order to where it still views itself as absolute law and chaos as abhorrent but can’t see that it itself has become tainted by chaos while still trying to enforce law in a way that causes more mayhem. And of course the new demon lord will if it can tap into the minds of mortal creatures and test them to see if they are a threat to its warped view of order or an ally, and if they’re a threat they will be trapped in that simulation to die and repeat the cycle until they break free by confronting it in the simulation.
      Our group has inadvertently created a few new demons through chains of events.
      Like what if Zariel fell a second time and became a demon lord now?
      Since she broke a divine contract with Asmodeus would an inevitable pursue her? And if so what would happen if the inevitable too became corrupted.
      And lastly
      What would happen if someone planted a seed from the apple of the gulthias tree in the abyss on the banks of the river Styx
      I just love how there’s so much lore to play around with but admittedly sometimes we get a bit too ambitious and need to make some major repairs to the cosmology lol 😂

  • @MegaStone99
    @MegaStone99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see a under dark episode, I think you could pull it off well.

  • @erivida64
    @erivida64 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, so this is where all the murder hobo pcs go! :p

  • @angramainyu8423
    @angramainyu8423 ปีที่แล้ว

    """THE ETERNAL WAR,, BETWEEN POSITIVE ENERGY,,, AND NEGATIVE ENERGY ""

  • @kevinchristiansen4348
    @kevinchristiansen4348 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody who summons demons is an engineer. Wreak havoc now, explain yourself later

  • @chthonicnoise860
    @chthonicnoise860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do I find a book that has all this information?

  • @NikNak32
    @NikNak32 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do humans enter the abyss, specifically the third layer?

  • @josephranlett4443
    @josephranlett4443 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so basically the devils protect the rest of the world and gods from being destroyed by the abyss …. so devils not bad just misunderstood

  • @joshuakern2762
    @joshuakern2762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kostchtchie
    Kosh - tick - tick - eye

  • @krispalermo8133
    @krispalermo8133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just ask any Succubus about The Path of Bliss that falls into the Abyss.

  • @neutralmob4739
    @neutralmob4739 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anti Paladins may now hate they gods .... also weres my ally the aboleth

  • @kevinchristiansen4348
    @kevinchristiansen4348 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All life is going to partake of the abyss in thier life, early on or if you dont deal with it early on you got to deal with it at the end of your life

  • @ezerharden5792
    @ezerharden5792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can and do the blood war and the Dawn war intersect and interact?

    • @AJPickett
      @AJPickett  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, more or less. Those are not places/times one wants to visit.

  • @pbr-streetgang
    @pbr-streetgang 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the vid sir.

  • @matthewbailey376
    @matthewbailey376 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I'm so glad this exists. Finally they have found the way to make me want to read spider man again. 😮‍💨