I Want To Tell You To Buy The Jaguar F-Pace SVR, But There Is A Problem... (Review)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- The Jaguar F-Pace SVR is a fabulous thing. 550bhp of supercharged, snarling V8 goodness wrapped in a very attractive and practical shell. But, there is an issue...
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You're doing brilliant work James. Sorry to hear you're having a tough time.
I second this. Hope you're well dude.
@Dave Thornton
km. Lomim. Li 8o.8. Km 7 8o ž8k.
I’ve discovered your channel about a week ago and have since then been binge watching it. I truly love your honesty and down to earthness. Thanks for the great content!
Thanks Stefan
It’s a cracking channel.
So are you now also fat, short out of breath from even just talking and buy all you clothes at a store for seniors?
Keep being real and genuine. It's one of the things I love about your channel.
Despite the obvious warning I still went straight to autotrader to have a perv! What can I say, I’m clearly broken.
I'm sorry to hear your having a crap time but thanks for telling us all because it helps the rest of us know TH-cam has real people on it
Always important to let everyone know we're human
A great review, love the genuine real world honestly, warts and all🤗
Sorry to hear that you’ve had a sh1t week James, chins up mate. I was just arguing last night how reliable new “British” cars are too lol
You spelled Indian wrong.
@@MrFister84 lol right next lotus is just as English too.
its almost like we really have sold off pretty much all of our industry and the kind owners of other companies have planted factories on UK soil just to stop some of us going under.
in fairness though they still are headquartered and mostly build under UK supervision and staff still.
Bot of a harsh comment there mate lol
@@chris9650 why? 🙃 I'm in the same boat haha thought it might cheer him up a bit 😅
@@Roginator007 same myself. 2 stone off two and a half more to go.
15 year old focus to pinch the bits off 🤣 Brilliant review as always 👍
I had one of these for 18 months I actually thought this was it lol . I had no issues at all it ran perfectly. Just ordered the 21 updated version
the 21 version is the best mid size SUV inside and out
6 years ago, I bought a Jaguar XE the very first month right after it was available here in Spain after the world premiere... I was in love with the car. But after 6 months of ownership, I returned it. I never enjoyed a diesel car as much as I did with the little jag, but it wasn't still a mature product... It was certainly issue plagued. The ZF transmision sometimes decided to slip, every second day after the first 15.000km I had the engine in limp mode due failures in the anti-pollution system... and the navi crashed every time I needed it. Issues apart, it is one of the best handling small sedans for my taste (the giulia, for me, is THE BEST, and the XE is the second on par with the 3 series).
A good friend of mine is a mechanic and I remember him saying never ever buy a new release JLR product as they have a really well earned bad reputation of having seriously bad teething issues. He said they often rush technology on their cars to try and compete/beat the Germans so they have all these issues. For the love of God leave it a year or two after release until going near one and even then they aren't exactly renowned for reliability.
@@ja2688 Nice to keep that in mind for the next time :)
I tested an XE diesel here in the States and was shocked at how well it drove.
@@texlad04 For sure it does!
If you still didn't, I would recommend you to try a Giulia Ti/Veloce or Quadrifoglio. For me, the Giulia it's kind of "4 door baby Ferrari". Maybe they aren't the fastest, the best build or the most reliable... But in terms of handling and feel: I'm Speechless :)
I dated a woman that bought a range rover supercharged years ago and it was a total lemon.Ran fine the first month and I made sure and she had the money to use premium gas.It was in and out of the shop--check engine light would flicker if you took it above 5k rpm and after the first time in the shop after that it ran like it was down 50 HP--I even filled it up with premium gas to make double sure myself.We chose my 2003 Grand Am on a trip--confident in its reliability over a 6 month old 100k priced range rover.It was also awful on fuel economy like single digits sometime.
It's like May, Clarkson and Hammond in one person! Keep up the excellent work.
Interesting review however I would say other brands can be unreliable. My father has had 5 JLR vehicles over a 17 year period all from brand new. His 2000 Freelander had no problems in 4 years of ownership. He then bought a second Freelander in 2004 and it had a fuel pump failure which he sold after 3 years of ownership. He then bought a 2007 Freelander 2 and it had a water leak from day one which then caused electrical issues which he sold 4 years later. By the way, it’s still on the road somewhere in the UK even after its issues which make the car 14 years of age currently. He then bought a 2011 Freelander 2 which had an EGR failure but this was after its 3 years warranty was up. His final JLR vehicle was a 2015 Range Rover Evoque which had a broken rear passenger door lock which he sold after 2.5 years of ownership. The other family cars we had which weren’t JLR vehicles had problems such as 2007 Toyota Aygo which had a water leak into the tyre well, 2012 VW UP which had an instrument cluster that died, heat shield needed replaced and warped disc brakes and 2016 VW Polo which had a delaminated windscreen replaced under warranty. Apart from the VW Polo he has currently no issues with his 2018 Audi RS3 and 2019 VW GTI TCR.
would be interesting to see you review the 2021 facelift of the f pace svr as the interior is much improved and apparently it handles quite a bit better too
Well done for a very honest opening.
Your channel is one of those that has helped me immensely at times during this lockdown. You have re awoken my love of cars that was very much there in my younger years. A time full of many hot hatches. Thank you.
My wife’s not as keen, as I’ve just bought my first “fun” car in over 20 years. MX5 pretty well exactly the same as your review. As you say, not that fast, but I believe it will put a smile on my face.
Enjoy the MX5 John, great cars
@@JayEmmOnCars thanks, I’m going to get that BBR 200 upgrade you recommended. If your ever up in North Wales and want a good coffee and a drive, let me know. Thanks again
You're doing great, sir. I always watch your videos, soon after they're uploaded. No one does reviews like you. Very knowledgeable, yet witty and free-flowing in delivery. I hope things are looking up for you. Best wishes. 👍
Thankyou Jean
It's very good of you to say that, many a time I have become disheartened with cars when it feels like everyone else is having amazing time and I'm the one guy stuck on the roadside after the 3rd brake down that week. good to know it happens to the best of us
just buy a kia
@@ninjastream3596 lol, bought a saab instead, it's more reliable
Sorry to hear you are having problems, I'm sure with your outlook and attitude things will turn out for the better soon enough👍. I also think it is a good thing you brought it up, I think there are many people particularly younger people who see all this social media type stuff and think that it's a perfect life so to speak.
Jags definitely have a certain appeal and they are one of the best sounding V8’s / exhausts but let down even today by reliability issues .... shame.
And massive depreciation.....
@@mickgoodbe235 good news for me as a second hand car buyer.
Would never had been able to afford my first jag otherwise.
@@bobhob35 I have quite positive experiences with Jags of the Ford era, those are pretty reliable.
It ain't the '70s bruv. The Jag/LR is still better than the Italians in terms of reliability, on similar level as the Germans. The Japanese or the Koreans are the ones to have if you're so obsessed with reliability.
@@subarnosinha8042 on a similar level to the germans in terms of reliability isn’t very positive these days
Fantastic, authentic work as always. Sorry to hear it has been a tough week, hope you’re okay. Having watched a million M3/M4 videos this week, still excited to see yours whenever you get your hands on it! Keep up the great work!
Sending a big hug to the big Guy. I love your work, don't go changing James 😊👍
A breath of fresh air ! I love your honesty . You have a new follower here in Canada .
This is the older F Pace SVR. The newer one has an much superior interiors.
Very honest review albeit on a pre-2021 upgraded version, of which we test drove yesterday. The upgrades of which really do bring this vehicle to the front of the grid. Extremely impressive, and when you looking for something that combines the best of an AMG C63 estate but with AWD capability, this supercharged 5 Ltr takes some beating. That said, the nagging issue of quality hangs in the balance
Arguably the best U.K. car reviewer on TH-cam.
Whatever issues you’ve had James, I hope all is well now.
As for the Jag. What a tragedy. £80k broken down on the drive.
Problems with modern cars are almost always electrical. Just wait until we all drive cars that are 100% electric! OMG!
Thanks Marcke!
Well said at the start Jay 👍
It’s going to be fun when Jaguar becomes all electric 😂
Probably more reliable. Aren't all the battery/drivetrain gubbins in the ipace from LG?
Let’s hope they stay clear of “Lucas” 😂
@@davespooney8472 Luckily Lucas went bankrupt long time ago
@@enricol5974 they never went bankrupt. They merged with an American company and then the joint company was bought out by TRW.
I have both an I Pace and a diesel F pace.
Both have been virtually flawless.
While obvs not as fast as the Svr our diesel is an extremely entertaining car to drive.
The I pace is just! brilliant I came from a quite troublesome RS4 and the performance if anything (in a straight line) is better
Always good videos James, sorry to hear of your personal issues, keep positive thinking
Another great video Jay, keep up the good work. We are all here with you.
Excellent wordsmithing in the end!
78k not that much cash anymore! I need to get my self a better paying job. 😉
Been avidly following your videos for months James, love them, very engaging.
I have a 2011 Aston Martin Rapide you might want to review. Also, I’m planning on buying a rare DB9 manual volante, that might be worth a review
Thanks for the good video and the human touch. On the car... no matter how fast an EV is, it will never ever beat a V8 emotion wise! And... I'm a petrolhead for over 60 years and never ever worry why that is, it simply is!
Very honest inciteful review. Keep them coming. When you were comparing this Jag and the Porsche, I thought to myself I'd have the Porsche any day cause... reliability and then sure enough...
God Bless You Jay.... Love ur point of view & the way you throw yourself into these reviews!
Thanks Stuart, I try!
Another superb video James, thank you. Interesting what you said about the price, back in the 90's when I was selling them an XKR was the price of an average house, fast forward to now and the SV is a bargain!
That exhaust note sounds good though!
Hope you and everyone else watching this video has a great day! Hope all is well for you Jay!
Great vids, likeable fella, garage to be proud of 😀 Hopefully your worries will be short but great of you to share them for very good reasons. Take care
Coventry has many problems hahahaa🤣🤣
Need to tell the Birmingham boys to pull their socks up! :-)
Being from cov myself this one hit hard😭😂
I would like to say, we all hope next week will be better for you, your good doing your videos on youtube. 78 thousand pounds is a lot of money, theres no way, id spend that on a car.
Car technology is moving too fast you can imagine what these cars will be like in 10 years time
Hope you week gets better great video as always 👍
All the best James. Keep up the great work 🙂
Sorry you're having a rough week, keep your head high James
Jayemm, thanks for not slapping music over your videos. I can't thank you enough. So many car videos are music filled. If I want to watch a music video, I'll watch a music video. Oh, and thanks for speaking proper English. Thanks, big thanks.
“€78K, not actually that much cash anymore”. world’s gone nuts.
Inflation, finance deals, cars are expensive now if you look at list prices
@@JayEmmOnCars yep, was more a comment on where we are in 2021. new Golf R is 20% more than previous, just seems to have been accepted. hard to keep up.
He’s talking about the 5 l v8
I think you had one of those weeks as I owned my F pace for 4 years and 45K miles and had no problem, also I find it strange you are reviewing the old model . 2021 is already in the showroom and have updated to most of the issues you brought up.
Keep up the good work! Btw, I think that's the 2020 model. The 21 has a different interior and front and rear facias.
Nice work James. Hope things improve for you. Take care
No SUV is worth buying, they are more unsafe than any saloon, coupe or hatch. Extra height and weight for no reason.
Totally agree. Yet people buy them because they think they need one to be safe if hit by another SUV. I despise the things. What’s wrong with getting an estate car if needing space?
@@sparky4878 Far more likely to roll an SUV than an estate car.
The up high driving position gives it more visual range.
The door position makes it easier to get in and out of.
The tall shape gives more headroom.
The shape gives enough space for 5 people and over 5 people worth of holiday
SUVs make sense for the average ageing dad someone who doesn’t care about cars, just wants to get from a to b comfortably with everything. They aren’t sporty, they can’t handle as well, and they are only about as safe as the equivalent, but they still have their purpose.
@@sparky4878 some people (myself included) prefer the higher seating postion, ingress/egress, easier to get young children in
/out the car, and the kids also benefit from higher vantage point.
Or maybe I am just old.
Great video as ever... I won’t pay nearly £80k for a vehicle I can’t rely on to start
My boss had range rovers for 10 years than bought a Nissan murano 3.5 v6 petrol turbo in 140,000 miles it never put a foot wrong .this was replaced in 2016 for a brand new discovery sport .this car in 18 months and 6,000 miles had replaced under warranty. All 4 discs and pads then followed all of the brake calipers. Then the turbo failed .that was replaced .then the engine started playing up badly. The entire engine, turbo and intercooler was replaced..this car was handed back to landrover and a new jaguar xf was ordered. Touch wood the jaguar xf has been spot on.
Jags have always made some Savage sounding V8's 👌🏼
"One of the sexiest SUV's on sale today" - is that an oxymoron ?
He meant ugliest, if it didn't have a Jaguar badge you would think it was a SSang Yong
I do actually like the look of it. I wouldn't have one, but I do like it.
No, go back 50 years the Range Rover was one of the first SUV's so SUV's are part of the establishment
No
No. This looks very good, far better than anything the Germans and the Asians are building right now. But that's the thing about opinions, everybody has one.
Love it. Give me the Velar SV Autobiography though. A touch more comfortable and luxurious with the same wild engine and general dynamics.
I own a Velar but SE trim without a lot of the extra electronics. It's been solid and reliable fortunately.
The Sun always Shines on TV ☀️☀️ Let’s hope things get better 👍
I'll stick with my Supercharged XJR V8 of 1999, thanks.
Way, way better looking for a start !
You have a great car.
I dont mind my cars breaking from time to time, if they make up for it in feeling when they do work. 😅
And don't cost as much as there vastly superior German rival's!
@Tim Polman really? As far as I'm concerned a car that breaks down is infuriating, frustrating and frankly embarrassing. Don't care what it is.
The complete lack of reliability in J&L has put me off no end, everyone I know who has purchased a product from them, has had problems within weeks of ownership. Some made excuses of 'highly strung engine' bla bla, yet I've had my Lexus GSF with its 5L V8 for 3 years and daily driven it for 32k miles without a single hiccup...
James, You were fair in regards to the did not start. However, I've had high end BMW M cars that have left me stranded. I've had Range Rover Sport SVR which loved the shoppe more than my garage. In one case we missed my Uncle's funeral because it would not start after I stopped for petrol. BTW, I do not think you mentioned that the F-Pace is coil springs and dampers rather than the air bag system. The air bags were a problem on the Range Rovers and the BMWs I have owned. Out of warranty it really gets expensive. The F-Pace SVR will not put you in limp mode due to some sensor or air leak. I will NEVER own another air suspension vehicle.
The 5.0 SC V8 has proven to be a great engine if you will just have it serviced and allow it to warm up a bit. The gearbox is well suited to the car. I prefer the look of the 2022 /23 with the long hood straight to the grill. Please test a 1988 edition and give us your thoughts. It is different than the standard SVR. All the best to you.
James you're a star, but comparing that car to the Porsche Macan, is like comparing a Ford to a Mercedes. There just is no comparison. Let's not even discuss deprecation. Putting your hard earned money into a Jaguar is like investing in Bitcoins fake cousin, you'd have to be nuts!
Sorry to hear you've had a shitty week - happens to us all. Hope all okay and keep doing your thing! This is my fave car channel. Greetings from Gibraltar.
Shame you couldn't review the new 2021 MY, by all accounts and reviews I've read, it is a vast improvement on this especially inside.
had a Velar for a weekend when they came out, had electrical issues and had to go to coffee shop and leave it for 15 min before it would reset . when returning it to dealer was told yeah they can do that ! would love one of these but i bought an X3M .
Another JLR product running true to form. Extend the warranty or have a sizeable "rainy day" fund.
Been loving your videos mate only found your channel a few weeks back I've probably near watched everything 😂 keep it up 👍
Should of been "Castle brom, we have problem". Peugeot were built in Coventry. Jags hq is castle Bromwich North Birmingham FYI. Ex JLR tech 😉
Should have been
@@RB-xv4si Bravo well played.... totally takes away from the point but hey ho, your superior grasp of the english language stands tall. I salute you sir on pointing out my appalling error, I bow to thee.
Great car. One of my all time faves was my XJR, even if I put £28k of fuel into it. Worth every penny.
Fair, balanced and honest 👍 Hope life is kinder to you going forward too 🙏
Thanks Wayne
You have got to give it to Jag tata .. they have done an amazing job with the engines and interiors ... if they threw in an extended warranty .. it might push me over .
Fantastic work, James. We love the transparency, too. I can only hope that things turn for you.
Sorry to hear you've had a bad week. You wouldn't know from the video, professional as ever. Keep up the great work.
Thankyou Stephen. Important to admit sometimes us TH-camrs are human
My mom wanted an F-Pace, I made her buy a Volvo XC40... Now watching this, and so relieved.
Curious to know what was wrong with it. Did JLR not comment?
More useful than an estate???? The "real enthusiasts" are sharpening their pitchforks. Great review and I hope things get better for you
I hope next week is better mate. chin up.
Sounds like battery issue to me; who knows how long that thing has been sitting before you got it. I have 2011 XJ SC and a 2012 XKR. I drive the XJ daily so the XKR has a battery tender on it and never have a problem with it. One day it was very cold and I started the XJ to let the interior warm up a bit. I got distracted by something and it was 30 minutes before I got in and drove off. I made a short trip to the store and when I came out and drove off again, I suddenly noticed my headlights flickering (reflecting off the car ahead of me). Then a message popped up on the screen about "Restricted Performance" mode. I'd never seen this in 8 years of ownership and I first thought maybe my battery was finally giving up the ghost after five years. Then I remembered the really long idle time that morning. These high end Jags have tons of equipment drawing on the battery, at idle they draw more power than the engine can recharge. I had just run the battery down too much; I drove normally a few more miles and the messages went away and I've never seen them since.
Not a battery issue - checked myself and AA man confirmed not a problem. My guess is a relay or fuse popped then reset itself
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Superb review! Thank you. Great advice and I'm still going to have one! ;-)
Great video, Jay!
Why would JLR want to be the British Alfa Romeo?
Couldn't have said it better, appreciate the first 1.5 minute prologue!
A good blast in a fun car sure does put a smile on your face when you’re having a tough time. Take care 👍
Great car still don't like SUV's though. And I don't like digital displays. Old fashioned clocks please. Also being able to hide the center console screen would be nice.Not everyone wants a screen in the middle of the car. It does sound nice though, no artificial shit being pumped into the cabin like in so many cars these days. P Zero tyres aren't that great for the UK neither are Dunlop Super Sports, they don't seem to like the wet that much and the P Zeros sidewalls are very stiff. Pilot Sport 4S's are better for the UK in my opinion. Better comfort and better on wet roads which the UK has a lot of. It's nice that Jaguar is still using the AJV8 engine, it's one of the best engines around at the moment. One of the only supercharger options on the market these days as well at least I think so. The gearbox is the correct option in my opinion, it's smooth and that is the point.
Heated screen are nice because like you said they are handy for clearing the screen fast. But yea I agree they don't look great. I do forget about them after a while though.
Agree on digital displays. They always look cheap to me and soon look out of date. Be they instruments or touchscreen entertainment functions. Much prefer physical buttons and proper dials are timeless.
@@sparky4878 People moaned about there being too many buttons on the X100 XKR but to be honest I would rather have too many buttons then a touch screen that looks greassy all the time and a digital clock cluster that looks pixelated. At least I can use the buttons without needing to look what I am doing.
Great vid as always - BUT ... why didn't you mention that the facelifted F-Pace SVR fixes pretty much every single negative issue with the model you drove? (hopefully, that includes reliability...) - hope all is ok with you.
Awesome review as always! Wish Land Rover and Jag had a better history with reliability. I do genuinely love their products, but would never buy one because of the reliability woes... They need to make reliability their priority - it turns prospective buyers off and destroys their resale value.
These videos mean a lot to the audience. Kudos for bringing them to us through thick and thin. My thoughts are with you, sending our love 😁
05:04 £78K...not that much cash anymore? Really?
Bought mine in June 2020 and it is now November 2023. No issue with it not starting so far. The only glitch is the boot very occasionally opens a little instead of all the way when using the key remote. Fantasic fun to drive and sounds better than anything else on the road in my opinion. Lovely interior as well.
My friend has an SVR f-pace, it’s a complete beast. But it does have some gremlins!..about 10,000 miles in and it’s not been great.
Fuses do not reset themselves. Blown is blown
Sorry you had a rough week, January James
So Jags have problems with their electrics - wait a minute aren’t all new Jags going to be powered by electricity? Hope they sort it out soon.
Hope your problems are solved soon Jay.
Hope your life gets better quickly, my own sh*t times in life have generally been self induced, and I never seem to learn :o/ - if it's others causing you grief f*** 'em, if it's ouside your control, just gotta plough through. Anyhoo, on a positive note, I dip into your channel's back catalogue quite regularly (with a beer or two) and can see your analyses, style and delivery steadily developing very noticeably, blooming in fact.
Hi j, keep your chin up mate! 😃 I’ve had a lot of JLR products & my F-pace SVR is simply the best by a long stretch. I’m also happy to report that I’ve had no problems with it whatsoever to date. Also I find myself as soon as I have bought my new car starting to plan what I will be getting next, but not on this occasion and if I do it will probably be another SVR. “Well each to their own” Keep up the fantastic video’s James they are all well entertaining & informative! 👍🏻😃
I don't know how you folks do it in the UK; but in the United States winter tires are usually installed on separate, and smaller, wheels
Always like your reviews, keep up the good work.
Epic noise that V8, great way to burn petrol.
Did you like the 1970s light control stalks that jaguar still use? The effort to switch between dip and full beam.
For 60k you can buy 2019 a BMW M5 comp.
Kraut dung !
No brainier M5 all day
Yes I recognise the Infotainment problem where it doesn't boot up properly. Solution: Shut down everything, get out, lock it all up and then count to 10. Unlock, restart etc and off you go. It isn't just Jags I've have this as rare occurrence even in German cars. I think it's just purely a common computer problem everywhere and have often had to do something similar with taking a battery out of a laptop or switching off a mains switch to a PC once in a blue moon. Usually a dodgy update is the problem as often upon restarting a pop up might come up regarding a downloaded updates. Nothing to panic about.
Assuming it comes back from being worked on? Sometimes just better to let them go and look for something new, once trust is gone, it's gone
I owned one from 2016 to 2019. Faultless, no warranty claims and services included within £500 service pack. Very fine looking car and highly functional for load carrying like mountain bikes and trips to recycle centre. I agree the 22” rims look fabulous but do spoil the ride unless you are married to a chiropractor/ physiotherapist. Definitely a worthy alternative to ubiquitous Germans and perhaps a touch more gentlemanly than the Alfa. 🤓