It still amazes me that such mighty locos have such camp horns. You can almost heat Alycidon chirping "ooooh, I did it, didn't I darling?" as it passes.
Thats what I call a locomotive !!!! I used to lie awake at night and listen to these blasting down the East Coast mainline through Newcastle in the 70's, such an iconic sound of sheer power !!!! So nice to see it has both Napiers installed. Not a banker in sight !!!!!!
You’re bang on, as a boy in the 70’s I lived about 1 mile from Peterborough station and in the still of night a Deltic on full chat on the main line or pulling out of the station made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up…. I still have the pleasure of hearing a preserved Deltic on the NVR on occasion. What a locomotive
beautiful noise of the Napier engines takes me back to the'60's and the regular trips from Grantham to Kings Cross. I used to remember all the names of the stations en route. When one of these trains flew through the station, the place shook. We used to manufacture stuff ourselves in those days-Amen.
She actually topped at 41mph but what a noise. Only ever driven D9000 and that was on the Alcans! Would love to get to do one on a railtour,at speed one day!
One dark night, we were on a railtour heading up the bank. Battered old RES class 47 with 13mk1s on. We hit the bank at a pace, but eventually ground to a halt. Needed a push from a 66 coming up behind on a freight... The way the deltic just conquered that, shows what a different dimension/league of loco they were
And speed at botom is not the end of story....too fast and as speed drops on hill field diverts slow to drop back and you lose momentum then back to lower field divert and before you know it your under 10mph struggling 😊
You were unlucky. On my first visit to the Lickey, in 1972 and about 3/4 way up the bank, the very first train up was a Class 47 with 14 on. I was amazed, and it was growling a bit at about 20 mph, but that load caused it no problem. Next up was a "Western" with 10 on, and taking it very easy.
Great video, I remember these locos from when I travelled into Kings Cross every day in the 60's.and 70's.on the way to work. Sadly these days idiots hang out fo the windows be it steam or diesel, it just knocks the edge off the video, people sat in their seats for the journey back in the day.
I guess you pay you money and you want to hear the sound of Deltic up close. Without the paying passengers in question its unlikely this excursion would of gone ahead. The amount of heads out of the window was only due to the fact they were going up the Lickey. Once over the top I'd imagine the majority would of returned to the seats.
A fine example of two stroke diesel oily fumes - probably worse than any steam engine's fumes (so long as the coal used was good quality low sulphur steam coal). Today sadly many steam engines have only poor quality coal available which produce choking sulphurous fumes.
Information courtesy of delticsounds.com At 1 in 37.75, and about 2 miles long, the Lickey Incline is a classic challenge. The speed limit on the approach is 75mph. The first time a Deltic took on the challenge, was on one of the final railtours in BR ownership. 55022 hauled the "Deltic Venturer" tour on 28th November 1981, and reached the Lickey after nightfall. On the day, there was a temporary speed restriction of just 20mph at Bromsgrove, and the trailing load was 11 mark 1 coaches. Once clear of the restriction, the Deltic accelerated from 21mph to 30mph at the summit (refs.7 and 8). The next assault by a Deltic came in 1997 with the same Deltic, under its earlier guise of D9000. There was a temporary restriction at the start again, but 50mph this time. With 12 heavy coaches (mark 1s with Commonwealth bogies), speed fell to 29mph at the summit (as logged by a friend of mine). I estimated that a balancing speed would have been 26mph, assuming the full advertised horsepower was available. On a subsequent run for Virgin Trains, with a much lighter 7 coach load, the full 75mph speed limit was back in force, and speed fell to 56mph at the summit, including a rare field reversion (field divert cutting out). For comparison, here are some logged runs by other classes of loco (ref.8): Class 31 with 10 coaches and banked by a pair of class 37s, started from a stand, took the summit at 32mph. Class 45 with 12 coaches, started climb at 77mph, took the summit at 25mph. Class 47 with 11 coaches, started the climb at 62mph, took the summit at 28mph. HST set (7 coaches) started climb at 78mph, took summit at 60mph. 5MT steam engine, banked by a pair of 3Fs, with 12 coaches, started from a stand, took summit 14mph. A fews weeks after D9000's 1997 ascent, a class 50 railtour with load 12 took the summit at 23mph. I don't know what its starting speed was? (Can't find my old reference for this run).
They could have put the turbos back on giving it over 6000Hp as found on mine sweepers and MTB - then there was of course torpedo run - battle power setting at > 7000Hp, but of course getting traction motors to match would be a problem.
Must admit Alycidon got me out of a Nice Sleep after the Thunder Friday night..I saw her near Derby..still got wet..! Back to real Engines now..if there is no Steam ban..!
A great shot of the Deltic hard at work, but why are diesel enthusiast mostly weardo's , hanging out of windows waiving there arms? they did this back in the 80s when I was taking stills.
+pistonvalve Thanks, the diesel following definitely act different to us steam enthusiasts, but I can't really form to much of an opinion as it's rare I show much interest in diesel traction. Regards, Liam
Why are they mostly weirdos? Because they're diesel enthusiasts which is a bit like being a shopping trolley enthusiast. Or manhole covers. That sort of thing.
Nice footage, but would she have gone up the bank that fast if she had a standing start, I think not but I also believe she wouldn't have stalled either. 🇦🇺🤠👌
Oh Liam I know you cover steam in a big way but there was no need to make a comment the way you did about diesels. Three greats your filming the loco and what a sound as always. Mike
antman09ful1 Hi, Mike. Not sure what comment you're referring too ? But, it's rare for me to film diesels, unless it's this beast which, I love to see. I still appreciate your comments on my videos. Regards, Liam.
now now Liam, don't be snotty, as this video shows there always room for non steam in anyones video list as long as its from the rather restricted list of Deltic, Western, or is powered by Merlins or Olympus's's
It still amazes me that such mighty locos have such camp horns.
You can almost heat Alycidon chirping "ooooh, I did it, didn't I darling?" as it passes.
Not how I remember them blasting the Tunnels at Waverley before arrival from the South in the late 1970s.A horn that meant business from my memories.
@@tonybrowne2457 naah- the Deltic horn has always been wimpy.
I love those horns. They have a personality that matches the look of the loco.
Thats what I call a locomotive !!!! I used to lie awake at night and listen to these blasting down the East Coast mainline through Newcastle in the 70's, such an iconic sound of sheer power !!!! So nice to see it has both Napiers installed. Not a banker in sight !!!!!!
I used to do the same , but further down in Stevenage .
You’re bang on, as a boy in the 70’s I lived about 1 mile from Peterborough station and in the still of night a Deltic on full chat on the main line or pulling out of the station made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up…. I still have the pleasure of hearing a preserved Deltic on the NVR on occasion. What a locomotive
That climbing performance from a loco with such high gear ratios, all 3300 horsepower working well.
british horse power at its best
beautiful noise of the Napier engines takes me back to the'60's and the regular trips from Grantham to Kings Cross. I used to remember all the names of the stations en route. When one of these trains flew through the station, the place shook. We used to manufacture stuff ourselves in those days-Amen.
My best friends father was the signal box master at St neots,,spent many hours watching these engines from it
She actually topped at 41mph but what a noise. Only ever driven D9000 and that was on the Alcans! Would love to get to do one on a railtour,at speed one day!
One dark night, we were on a railtour heading up the bank. Battered old RES class 47 with 13mk1s on. We hit the bank at a pace, but eventually ground to a halt. Needed a push from a 66 coming up behind on a freight...
The way the deltic just conquered that, shows what a different dimension/league of loco they were
Horse power players a large part too. 3300 hp against 2500/2750 depends on which class 47 it was.
And speed at botom is not the end of story....too fast and as speed drops on hill field diverts slow to drop back and you lose momentum then back to lower field divert and before you know it your under 10mph struggling 😊
You were unlucky. On my first visit to the Lickey, in 1972 and about 3/4 way up the bank, the very first train up was a Class 47 with 14 on. I was amazed, and it was growling a bit at about 20 mph, but that load caused it no problem. Next up was a "Western" with 10 on, and taking it very easy.
A superb shot of this magnificent machine in full swing up the Lickey Liam....Bob
+Robert Masterman Thanks, Bob. 80mph at the bottom and 36 over the top.
Great footage on the Lickey with a Deltic making light of it, Liam, even tho it's a diesel on a team channel - lol!! Cheers from Ken
A scene never to be repeated now the Bank has been spoiled by knitting 😉
Nice to see some flailing
Remember doing a rail tour in which we had a 56 and load xx from standing start . What a sound that was !!!!
Great video, I remember these locos from when I travelled into Kings Cross every day in the 60's.and 70's.on the way to work. Sadly these days idiots hang out fo the windows be it steam or diesel, it just knocks the edge off the video, people sat in their seats for the journey back in the day.
I guess you pay you money and you want to hear the sound of Deltic up close. Without the paying passengers in question its unlikely this excursion would of gone ahead. The amount of heads out of the window was only due to the fact they were going up the Lickey. Once over the top I'd imagine the majority would of returned to the seats.
Awesome sound and power. Would have loved to hear them at 100mph along the ECML in their heyday.
Nice one Liam, wonderful sound on the Lickey
acw71000 Sounded very well, Austin. Apparently they were having issues with one the engines on the return, but you would of never guessed.
Great video and great sound from "ALYCIDON", many thanks for showing us.
Peter Dovey Cheers, Peter. Sounded superb.
Great Napier sound, shame about the woosie horn😃😃
Enjoyed this immensely!
Was that really its horn, it sounded like someone farted
You'd sound like that after 10 pints of Harvey's best and a chicken kebab and then climb that hill. Well I know I do at the top of the stairs anyway
The “Tongue-in-cheeck” British Horn 😂
I remember seeing many 45’s & 46’s struggling with that hill, Deltic made it look simples.
Of course! It's a type 5, the others are only type 4 so no fair comparison.
wow very beautiful locomotive i want to ride this train greetings from poland !
That’s some power in that loco for sure.. wow 😊
Wow. Made it look easy. Great Vid.
What a machine. Wow.
A fine example of two stroke diesel oily fumes - probably worse than any steam engine's fumes (so long as the coal used was good quality low sulphur steam coal). Today sadly many steam engines have only poor quality coal available which produce choking sulphurous fumes.
Hi Liam. another great shot , My favourite diesel as I think most enthusiast's ...Dave
+locomotive67 Cheers, Dave, a great loco and always worth seeing.
Hi Liam , saw her at S/ Ruislip this autumn .
purring along nicely.....Dave
Dave, did you catch her on the Pullman set Earlier in the year ? That was a highlight of the year for me !
Hi Liam, did not know about it .nice sound with the napier marine engines.....all the best for 2016.... Dave
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Waiting in York station with a north and a south bound deltic waiting for signals in 1980's - and you didn't need to stir you coffee.
3,300HP. Deltic makes the Lickey look flat.
Impressive stuff.
Only on Notch 6, btw.
That was pretty impressive
Very good to see, thank you
Excellent! Super work!
Nice capture Liam....Well filmed...Steve.~
***** Thanks, Steve. Your comments are always appreciated.
Very superb shots sir...
Russell Thewlis Thanks for commenting. Much appreciated.
What's quickest train has gone up there heritage wise without assistance
You're possibly looking at it, but I'm not sure, best to search google.
Information courtesy of delticsounds.com
At 1 in 37.75, and about 2 miles long, the Lickey Incline is a classic challenge. The speed limit on the approach is 75mph. The first time a Deltic took on the challenge, was on one of the final railtours in BR ownership. 55022 hauled the "Deltic Venturer" tour on 28th November 1981, and reached the Lickey after nightfall. On the day, there was a temporary speed restriction of just 20mph at Bromsgrove, and the trailing load was 11 mark 1 coaches. Once clear of the restriction, the Deltic accelerated from 21mph to 30mph at the summit (refs.7 and 8).
The next assault by a Deltic came in 1997 with the same Deltic, under its earlier guise of D9000. There was a temporary restriction at the start again, but 50mph this time. With 12 heavy coaches (mark 1s with Commonwealth bogies), speed fell to 29mph at the summit (as logged by a friend of mine). I estimated that a balancing speed would have been 26mph, assuming the full advertised horsepower was available. On a subsequent run for Virgin Trains, with a much lighter 7 coach load, the full 75mph speed limit was back in force, and speed fell to 56mph at the summit, including a rare field reversion (field divert cutting out).
For comparison, here are some logged runs by other classes of loco (ref.8):
Class 31 with 10 coaches and banked by a pair of class 37s, started from a stand, took the summit at 32mph.
Class 45 with 12 coaches, started climb at 77mph, took the summit at 25mph.
Class 47 with 11 coaches, started the climb at 62mph, took the summit at 28mph.
HST set (7 coaches) started climb at 78mph, took summit at 60mph.
5MT steam engine, banked by a pair of 3Fs, with 12 coaches, started from a stand, took summit 14mph.
A fews weeks after D9000's 1997 ascent, a class 50 railtour with load 12 took the summit at 23mph. I don't know what its starting speed was? (Can't find my old reference for this run).
@@MarshSteamVideosTM cheers for that
A pity the proposed Super Deltic with the T18 engine was never built.
Oh God, imagine how good that would've been. 4400hp!
They could have put the turbos back on giving it over 6000Hp as found on mine sweepers and MTB - then there was of course torpedo run - battle power setting at > 7000Hp, but of course getting traction motors to match would be a problem.
Topped the Lickey at 36 mph, not 45 mph. I was aboard. 45mph not possible if 80 mph limit observed at Bromsgrove.
Must admit Alycidon got me out of a Nice Sleep after the Thunder Friday night..I saw her near Derby..still got wet..! Back to real Engines now..if there is no Steam ban..!
Alas. Real engines are steam not Diesel.
Smokin'. 😂
Every last horse is galloping towards the top of the Lickey bank.
wow great video! what a sound!
+Somerset Train Spotting Thanks, and only running off the one engine !
Marsh Steam Videos™ wow really!
@@MarshSteamVideosTM Both engines are running.
Very nice indeed
Thank you kindly
Flailing on mainline metals. Can't imagine things ended well for them.
560 tons + passengers,all with a 2 stroke engine,would that be a "Villiers" by any chance.
+B.R. Buckeye Man 2D, not a 2T though..............
+tridentmusic Funny you should say that, as I had a red and black 250cc Ambassador with a 2T engine. Ah I remember those smoky days well.
That Asthmatic crap wouldn't even manage to go down it
A great shot of the Deltic hard at work, but why are diesel enthusiast mostly weardo's , hanging out of windows waiving there arms? they did this back in the 80s when I was taking stills.
+pistonvalve Thanks, the diesel following definitely act different to us steam enthusiasts, but I can't really form to much of an opinion as it's rare I show much interest in diesel traction. Regards, Liam
I think that after losing half their allocation of arms, they might stop doing it.
Why are they mostly weirdos? Because they're diesel enthusiasts which is a bit like being a shopping trolley enthusiast. Or manhole covers. That sort of thing.
@@Rosie6857 Jeremy? Is that you aboard?
Awesome!
Phil
Unique loco unique sound
1:14 I think it sharted
Don't like diseasles but I love a DELTIC.
Nice footage, but would she have gone up the bank that fast if she had a standing start, I think not but I also believe she wouldn't have stalled either. 🇦🇺🤠👌
Oh Liam I know you cover steam in a big way but there was no need to make a comment the way you did about diesels. Three greats your filming the loco and what a sound as always. Mike
antman09ful1 Hi, Mike. Not sure what comment you're referring too ? But, it's rare for me to film diesels, unless it's this beast which, I love to see. I still appreciate your comments on my videos. Regards, Liam.
Sounded like the locomotive did a fart.
And that's why she was a racehorse!
now now Liam, don't be snotty, as this video shows there always room for non steam in anyones video list as long as its from the rather restricted list of Deltic, Western, or is powered by Merlins or Olympus's's
MrKnowwun Jeff, the Deltics & Westerns are also on my list, when there within local traveling distance.
Yes yes Number 9.
why are full grown men hanging out of the windows & flailing their arms about?
They've all had pre-frontal lobotomies!
I can never understand why people give the "Nazi salute" when riding old diesels, very strange.
?
Because they are Facists.
Shire horse power.
Sorry, but a 44mph drop in speed up the bank is not that impressive.
It certainly is with 12 coaches in tow
Steeep
Really good train 🚂 and super engine like Concord 🛫the world would not buy it. Because it was BRITISH 🇬🇧