For those who say it was slow pulling away you could not go full throttle till over 20-25 mph or they would overload, as for the smoke they are two stroke opposed piston engines originally built for fast inshore boats.
0:08 this is when back in 1982 the deltics got succeeded by the hsts As this clip shows this is how the high speed train powercars took over the deltic operations on the east coast mainline So it’s great to see the hst and the deltic meet each other for the first time since the 1980s
When I was a young trainspotter in the 70's on York Station trying to tick off all 22 Deltics I saw Alycidon more than any other to the point where it got boring. How things have changed.
Maybe its the passage of time but when i used to watch these hauling expresses out of kiiiings cross they never seemed so laboured or persistently high revving??
The significant thing about Bromsgrove Station is that it's at the bottom of the (once infamous) Lickey hills incline. Decade's past, northbound steam trains needed a hefty push up the hill from a 0-10-0, engine that was always kept in steam and waiting at the station for its next customer. The modern, rebuilt station is on the site of one of the earliest rolling-stock works, opened about 1840ish.
@@garethifan1034 A class 37 has more starting tractive effort than a 40. Perhaps more interestingly, a class 08 shunter has more tractive effort than a class 66!
the class 37 had a starting tractive effort of 55K lbf while the class 55 had a tractive effort of 50k lbf but the class 55 was double the HP. The class 37 in the UK are known as "tractors" - as they "pull anything.... slowly". The class 55 (known as a "bomber" from its noise) was designed as a main line engine and were limited to 125 mph intially, though this was down-graded to 100mph, much faster than the class 37. I regularly used the east coast main line in the UK in the 70s and 80's and you knew when the deltic was on the front - 13-15 coaches, and you were leaving London as some fair whack - while being pulled by the 37 or 42 and things were more sedate. So, yes, the tractors could start with more traction than a bomber, but once going, they went like shit. The main reason for the limited traction on the class 55 was they had 6x500hp electric motors which was under-rated for the power of the diesel engines (3300hp), so the drivers were told to be careful on startup so they blow the motors apart.
I get it the big engine(that I really like, too) that's kind of a symbol. But to worship these monsters comes with a morbid twist if you look at the history of an old locomotive and all the people it ran over. Just ask the drivers -they don't like to talk about it though.
No, these engines were rated at twice of those power used in the class 55, the napier deltic was used in MTB and mine sweepers with turbo's fitted and "battle power" setting of well over 3000hp and in those cased they could have been over fed, but in the class 55 they were normally asperated at 1650hp each (2/traction unit). What you are seeing here is an old girl with 100k's miles on her - and with 2 stoke diesel, you are going to get a lot of shit in the exhaust.
For those who say it was slow pulling away you could not go full throttle till over 20-25 mph or they would overload, as for the smoke they are two stroke opposed piston engines originally built for fast inshore boats.
Absolutely brilliant two icons of British engineering well filmed
Such a beautiful and perfect sounding locomotive. Well do e capturing the train departing. Thumbs up and cheers from Poland! :)
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Thanks for videoing the whole train as it went past, not just the loco.
0:08 this is when back in 1982 the deltics got succeeded by the hsts
As this clip shows this is how the high speed train powercars took over the deltic operations on the east coast mainline
So it’s great to see the hst and the deltic meet each other for the first time since the 1980s
I live in Redditch. On a clear night we can still hear the echoes of the climb…
I was reading that in their last year of operation, the drivers were given clearance to give the Deltics their head, and they topped out at 125 mph!
Great footage well done getting two railway icons, HST and a Deltic..........say no more!
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They sounded so good with the old Valenta engines
@@HotForgeChaos I have to agree. The new engines make them sound like a hamsters wheel when compared to the all screaming Valenta.....
That Deltic Roar ❤
Beautiful capture, magnificent loco.....thanks for posting!
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Excellent. glad you were there for us..........................Mike in very South Wales.
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meld at Liverpool lime st on the Newcastle train..sparks a clag all over the place ☺
When I was a young trainspotter in the 70's on York Station trying to tick off all 22 Deltics I saw Alycidon more than any other to the point where it got boring. How things have changed.
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Yes, I seemed to ride it a lot to York during the 70's too!
Bromsgrove looks different from when it was a single two coach length platform, doesn't it. Brilliant shots there, both of the HST and the Deltic.
They rebuilt the station a bit further down the line from the old one to allow for the increase in the service.
Beautiful sound of Class 55 locomotion ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
D9009のディーゼル機関車はカッコいい、好きです❗️👍🇬🇧
Maybe its the passage of time but when i used to watch these hauling expresses out of kiiiings cross they never seemed so laboured or persistently high revving??
Everyone loves a Deltic!!
Blackening a nice new rebuilt station! Outrageous!🤣🤣 Wonder what speed it managed passing Blackwell?
ENGLISH KNOW HOW ,ONCE AGAIN, BEAUTIFUL
Excellent video
Got to love a Deltic
Both engines azwell 🤩
Nice thrash and clag!
Awesomeness
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Smokes almost as much as my Yamaha RD!!
My LORDS !
I love the sight of Alycidon. Only thing for such an iconic engine is the disappointing klaxon.
Odd, I love the sound of a Deltic horn it's perfect - short, sharp, and urgent, just as a pedigree racehorse should be..
The significant thing about Bromsgrove Station is that it's at the bottom of the (once infamous) Lickey hills incline. Decade's past, northbound steam trains needed a hefty push up the hill from a 0-10-0, engine that was always kept in steam and waiting at the station for its next customer. The modern, rebuilt station is on the site of one of the earliest rolling-stock works, opened about 1840ish.
.....nicknamed Big Bertha.....
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So they come.our.of their joles
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I wonder why the Deltics are so smokey?
They're two stroke engines.
@@1earedwolf I always thought it might be something to do with oil on the injectors all the time
Are two stroke engines naturally smokey all the time?
Bloody hell, think of the ozone layer..
Diesel doesn’t effect the ozone layer, chlorinated hydrocarbons do.
Inform yourself and don't listen to main stream media.
Shame its not in the FP livery!
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A HST or rather a ramped up DMU v Deltic. I know which one I prefer and it ain't a glorified DMU
It's such a shame the grand Deltic was given such a pathetic horn.
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Nose trumpet.
Class 37 seems to have a lot more pull from standing..this looks like it coudln't pull the skin off a Rice pudding..
The Deltic has double the power of a 37.
@I'LL BE BACK ! Just a frank observation...
@@SvenTviking I'm talking about the ability to get going from stand still - which requires more torque than power..
@@garethifan1034 A class 37 has more starting tractive effort than a 40. Perhaps more interestingly, a class 08 shunter has more tractive effort than a class 66!
the class 37 had a starting tractive effort of 55K lbf while the class 55 had a tractive effort of 50k lbf but the class 55 was double the HP. The class 37 in the UK are known as "tractors" - as they "pull anything.... slowly". The class 55 (known as a "bomber" from its noise) was designed as a main line engine and were limited to 125 mph intially, though this was down-graded to 100mph, much faster than the class 37.
I regularly used the east coast main line in the UK in the 70s and 80's and you knew when the deltic was on the front - 13-15 coaches, and you were leaving London as some fair whack - while being pulled by the 37 or 42 and things were more sedate. So, yes, the tractors could start with more traction than a bomber, but once going, they went like shit. The main reason for the limited traction on the class 55 was they had 6x500hp electric motors which was under-rated for the power of the diesel engines (3300hp), so the drivers were told to be careful on startup so they blow the motors apart.
Sounds lovely and smooth,but think I prefer the snarl of the class 37
0:35 possibly the most pathetic train horn I've ever heard 😂 Nice engine though.
I get it the big engine(that I really like, too) that's kind of a symbol. But to worship these monsters comes with a morbid twist if you look at the history of an old locomotive and all the people it ran over. Just ask the drivers -they don't like to talk about it though.
Most diesel engines are "over injected," like pouring petrol into a carb",
No, these engines were rated at twice of those power used in the class 55, the napier deltic was used in MTB and mine sweepers with turbo's fitted and "battle power" setting of well over 3000hp and in those cased they could have been over fed, but in the class 55 they were normally asperated at 1650hp each (2/traction unit). What you are seeing here is an old girl with 100k's miles on her - and with 2 stoke diesel, you are going to get a lot of shit in the exhaust.
@@Tom55data "a lot of shit in the exhaust". How often does that need doing? 😊