Change Your Understanding of Topology In Six Minutes

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  • A good understanding of topology is a vital skill that every VFX artist should have in their arsenal. In this video, I'll break down a quick and simple method to change the edge count of any topology. Once you know how to connect an odd and an even number of faces, you can create clean topology for any mesh.
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  • @DECODEDVFX
    @DECODEDVFX  ปีที่แล้ว +97

    I finally made a follow-up to this video. You can watch is here - th-cam.com/video/m8JkR6tI_q4/w-d-xo.html

    • @engelbrecht777
      @engelbrecht777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ... and a better mic ;-) thank you for your tutorials!

  • @blenderguru
    @blenderguru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3238

    Brilliant demonstration! Thanks

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +271

      Cheers Andrew.

    • @icedchqi
      @icedchqi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@justjacob9606 bruh

    • @justjacob9606
      @justjacob9606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@icedchqi yes

    • @Simql
      @Simql 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@justjacob9606 bruh

    • @hexshots1045
      @hexshots1045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The god himself...

  • @buxtehude578
    @buxtehude578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1379

    Decoded: "Once you can do that, you can do anything."
    Me: "Hold my beer, gonna start a restaurant now."

    • @DanWandin
      @DanWandin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      Gonna be hilarious if in 10 years from now you're running a restaurant and you're interviewed by local news, you will have to say "Well it all began when I saw a tutorial on fixing topology in Blender"

    • @buxtehude578
      @buxtehude578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@DanWandin If this happens, I hope I will remember :)

    • @dannymo4390
      @dannymo4390 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@buxtehude578 good luck on that restaurant :D

    • @RPserge
      @RPserge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@dannymo4390 ...he will use blender every day in the restaurant...

    • @goobus_floobus
      @goobus_floobus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RPserge hahaha

  • @Keavon
    @Keavon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +991

    Tip: Use the "J" key to automatically connect two selected vertices by cutting through the surface with a new edge instead of using the knife tool (which can sometimes be inaccurate and create extra vertices).

    • @mm-hl7gh
      @mm-hl7gh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      J does not cut through faces.. it only lays a disconnected edge on top and gives you very bad geometry

    • @Keavon
      @Keavon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      @@mm-hl7gh That is not true, F does what you described. J cuts through the mesh surface and integrates the edge into the topology. It acts just like the knife tool between the two selected points, except it's safer because the knife tool sometimes gets subtly misaligned and creates two vertices where there should be one. Use J instead of the knife tool wherever you're doing simple cuts. Knife is good for cutting more complex shapes.

    • @hyperchango3902
      @hyperchango3902 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@mm-hl7gh you are mistaken, sir. Using J does create the necessary vertices in the intermediate faces between the selected points. It is the F key the one that creates the disconnected edge.

    • @joshuaanderson6609
      @joshuaanderson6609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Thanks! It's funny how often I randomly come across a comment like this that makes something I do all the time much easier.

    • @elfakyn
      @elfakyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Keavon If the knife tool is inaccurate, adjust your view clip start and end. Clip start must not be too small. Clip end must not be too large. It's weird behavior but you can verify that it works with a simple plane.

  • @Foxyzier
    @Foxyzier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1307

    Imagine modelling for several years now and find out about this :D

    • @Rune3D
      @Rune3D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Boi, I don't have to imagine.

    • @TheFlyJunky
      @TheFlyJunky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@Rune3D you never learnt to model till now then...

    • @Roxar96
      @Roxar96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@TheFlyJunky He could simply sculpt for years and keep being beginner in hardsurface bro

    • @TheFlyJunky
      @TheFlyJunky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      thats like only learning to play guitar with a pick and never use your fingers..... beginners should go to blender guru and follow the damn doughnut tutorial... then we avoid this conversation

    • @argumengenichyperloquaciou4115
      @argumengenichyperloquaciou4115 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      SgtChilli I may forever stick to sculpting without learning how to properly give my model a hard surface...
      It could crack in the kiln if I mess up.

  • @DECODEDVFX
    @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1816

    Wow. I almost deleted this video before uploading because I thought it was crap 🤣

    • @johndc7446
      @johndc7446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

      Thanks for sharing the knowledge man.

    • @syedrizvi6408
      @syedrizvi6408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      DONT even think about deleting it.
      There are lot of people like me who started learning 3d less than a month ago. For me, its a life saver.
      Yesterday I was trying to put a round hole in a sphere, using similar method, but failed and then failed and failed again.
      Do make similar videos, specially putting a round hole in a sphere.
      I will appriciate similar videos, as they will save me later when I am stuck.

    • @bennjaminfurtado3837
      @bennjaminfurtado3837 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      This is extremely helpful I've looked up topology and this the best it's been explained. The only thing that would make it better is actually cleaning up a mesh with booleans and showing how you apply this.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You know what, crap videos make for the best discussion grounds. If you ever feel like that again, take this into account, when you publish it, you might learn something you never bargained for.

    • @davidkyo1985
      @davidkyo1985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@syedrizvi6408 Not sure if it's still an issue, but I recommend enabling the built-in LoopTools addon to make things simpler in that particular task you mention. You can select the quads on a UV sphere, use LoopTools to spherify it and you'll have converted the square quads into a circular set of faces. Perhaps not the most elegant solution but it gets the work done in 90% of cases.

  • @tetsuooshima832
    @tetsuooshima832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +538

    wow I wish someone has explained this to me like 10 years ago, I still do it kinda randomly nowadays (and avoid topology work as much as possible haha). I never properly learnt this technique because well, that knowledge was hard to find. But I talk too much lol thanks for that video it's great

    • @artsyomni
      @artsyomni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The ideas described in this video are good tools to have in your toolset, but it’s far from a one-size-fits-all solution to all topology problems. You need to be careful about introducing poles, as those affect shading and create convergence points or “pinches” in topology when subdivided.

    • @AdautoAraujo
      @AdautoAraujo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve been looking for something like that since 2007...

  • @ingogud
    @ingogud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Been a CG generalist for 20+ years and had many of these individual methods vaguely in recesses of my brain somewhere, but this makes it all make sense finally! I´m a 100% sure that this video will end up on every CG teacher's must-view playlist for decades to come!

  • @Zephyroths
    @Zephyroths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    I never knew understanding topology can be THAT MUCH of a game changer

    • @derekdjay
      @derekdjay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      With how complicated it can get, you can say that topology IS the game

    • @odeca8121
      @odeca8121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just learn how to use ngons , what he did can be done with same result and less headache.

    • @derekdjay
      @derekdjay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@odeca8121 Not the same result. Triangles and n-gons aren't smooth-shaded the same as quads, also not animated the same and they mostly can't form loops. Quads and loops are the thing to use in all modeling.

    • @sp00k14
      @sp00k14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@odeca8121 never use ngons

    • @ninja_tony
      @ninja_tony 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@odeca8121 Ngons are bad topology and should only be used very sparingly in isolated cases. They are not the solution.

  • @kristianutomotobing9719
    @kristianutomotobing9719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +499

    It's 3 AM, i don't use blender, I'm not a 3D artist.
    Why is this in my recommendation TH-cam?

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +162

      The real question is, what compelled you to click it?

    • @kristianutomotobing9719
      @kristianutomotobing9719 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@DECODEDVFX I was studying geography back in highschool and then you got the word topology.
      Also, the thumbnail are kinda unusual from tech ,gaming, and music channel I usually watch.

    • @smaller_cathedrals
      @smaller_cathedrals 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@kristianutomotobing9719... and there's your answer, you watch tech and gaming videos, hence this recommendation.

    • @Hinstea
      @Hinstea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kristianutomotobing9719 blender aint geography tools ? 😅😅😅🖕

    • @sobreaver
      @sobreaver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hinstea I's a tool that uses geography =]

  • @yasinomidi7525
    @yasinomidi7525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Thanks, i really struggled with this and had a million loop cuts going everywhere, i knew there was a better way but i couldn't get it look nice in shade smooth or subdiv

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's happened to all of us at one point!

    • @rathauslevel3357
      @rathauslevel3357 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And i was wondering why my pc was on fire

  • @Charly_Chive
    @Charly_Chive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Finally someone shows the proper way, with and actual example, Jeez!

  • @Alex-by4zv
    @Alex-by4zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Heya there DECODED. it's a good thing you didn't delete it. Just in case you didn't know, Andrew Price put a link to this video as a "great explanation of redirecting topology" in his notification email about his new "chair" tutorial. I've just got it a couple of hours ago, and there I found the link to this video. I'd like to think it's a very good thing. As for the video itself, I checked it out when you first uploaded it, and I think it's really great.

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Thanks Alex. Andrew commented on the video the other day, so I already knew that he'd seen it. But I only just found out that he'd included it in the newsletter.

  • @newt6988
    @newt6988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    Why am I here? I don't even do how to model.
    I can't understand but it seems very interesting.

    • @RagbagMcShag
      @RagbagMcShag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      same here, was wondering why it is a problem if there are these loop cut thingies

    • @TheOssie98
      @TheOssie98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@RagbagMcShag it's because it adds loops in places unneeded and just clutters your model up plus when you want to smooth the model it can deform it

    • @RagbagMcShag
      @RagbagMcShag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@TheOssie98 Oh interesting, thanks for the info

    • @VerticalWit
      @VerticalWit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Could some topology dude explain to us plebs here why this in the video is so awesome?

    • @rohitmalyala8951
      @rohitmalyala8951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      VerticalWit when he starts making cuts on the “ribbon” (the plane on the left) he shows a short process for increasing or decreasing the number of faces in different parts of a model. Off the top of my head, this kind of topology management is important for several reasons.
      1. Keeping poly counts down. This is not as important these days, but still a concern for low-resource gaming.
      2. For avoiding having unnecessary faces generated far away from the place you actually need them, and keeping the model “clean” of excess faces. This helps a lot when animating and weight painting, since having more or less faces densely packed in an area affects the way a mesh deforms under an armature, or has particles emitted from it in some particle systems.
      3. Note how every face he drew with his method is a quad. Using his method specifically, you can still use loop cuts that will go all the way around a model, and other modifiers/transforms like subsurface will continue to work well, since you’re not including random triangles or n-gons in the mesh. This property, of maintaining the path of loops of connected faces, is what is being shown in the thumbnail of this video.

  • @KotteAnimation
    @KotteAnimation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    This is amazing! Your knowledge and explanation was just perfect👍

    • @lampboy926
      @lampboy926 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My favourite animator, but the comment got no attention :(

    • @BoxPossum96
      @BoxPossum96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We need a rescue signal

  • @DiegoSilva-zm3ke
    @DiegoSilva-zm3ke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This vídeo made me love retopology
    My tricks
    -Keep edges x4, x8, x12, x16 ...
    -Make main loops first
    -use the 3 to 1 edges
    -patience, is like a game

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This just revolutionized my game of cutting shapes into spheres. A life saver. Thank you.

  • @shiningaster3871
    @shiningaster3871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've struggling to get clean topology for a long while and you just solved that with a very simple explaination.
    Seriously, thank you.

  • @wiczus6102
    @wiczus6102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I've been doing this for a while now and I must say that it is extremely useful, BUT sometimes it completely destroys the flow and also sometimes there is a problem with the subdivision. You should use this on relatively flat or empty surfaces. For instance, an ear is more detailed, than the head, but at the same time there is a flat space before the ear begins, but a tear duct might be actually better with triangles, since there is detail all around the tear duct too, which'd be destroyed in the process.

    • @vladimirlavrentyev9206
      @vladimirlavrentyev9206 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Finally, a comment from someone who has real experience in SubD modelling.) All these methods to end loop cuts with a quad has been used for years but they are still rarely used as they usually produce bad shading.

    • @artsyomni
      @artsyomni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Thank you. It’s not nearly as simple as this video makes it out to be. For one, you’re altering the number of edge loops on either side of the topology group in question. You’re also introducing poles, which isn’t something to be cavalier about, as they’re going to change shading and create “pinch” in your topology, which isn’t always desirable. So no, this isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution to any topology problem.

    • @MsNathanv
      @MsNathanv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Exactly. The only topology you'll ever need! To solve simple joining problems on planes and flat shaded meshes, maybe.... If that was all topology was, we'd have had awesome, fully automated retopo tools a decade ago.

    • @helter696skelter
      @helter696skelter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lmao, yeah, towards the end of the video I've been saying out loud at my screen: "yeah cool and now subdivide it, go ahead and subdivide, like you showed at the beginning". Who really does hardsurface today and not use subdivision tools?

    • @Sh-hg8kf
      @Sh-hg8kf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@vladimirlavrentyev9206 I'm a blender noob. What would actually happen if we never used the video's method and jsut had loop cuts going around the full model?

  • @CaptainPanick
    @CaptainPanick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is probably the single most important video I've seen with regards to mesh modelling, I just wish I saw it earlier. Now I need to go and practice it over and over until it becomes second nature. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for explaining it in such a simple way! It seems so obvious now and I feel stupid for not being able to figure it out myself.

  • @TheWall-wm8gu
    @TheWall-wm8gu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Thank you so much for posting this video. I'm in my 40s, have ADHD and am attempting 3D modeling for the second time in my life. The first time was prior to medication, with poor tech that would crash and with software that was spline-based so dealing with the topology was EVERYTHING. As I have picked up Blender, I have had this distracting, anxiety in the back of my head that has been a roadblock. TOPOLOGY. I am someone that needs to know a little more about the machinery before I can feel comfortable using it and unfortunately, no-one titles youtube videos, HEY, the thing with the shapes and creasing and the part-mathy, part-real world stuff, I CAN HELP WITH THAT. After watching your video and with a rudimentary knowledge of anatomy it makes sense. You don't go from your fingers to your forearm with five bones. It's inefficiency use of energy and probably shitty mechanics. You build down with multiple bones decreasing and increasing based on the needs for flexibility until you get to the structure where all you need is rigid support. We of the neurodivergent thank you.

    • @dawne2780
      @dawne2780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I second that

    • @onerimeuse
      @onerimeuse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      37, starting on round three myself. Keep on it mate, we'll get this eventually!

    • @ryuined
      @ryuined ปีที่แล้ว

      good for you! :)

  • @Outmind01
    @Outmind01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm just at that moment when I'm getting into hard surface modeling and becoming aware of problems like this. Your tutorial will surely be useful in the future.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Things to keep in mind. Long and thin polygons will trip up Gouraud shader. It's not usually relevant today, but it was super relevant when you were targeting Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube era hardware and may still be relevant when targetting low-end mobile platforms.
    More relevantly for today, Catmull-Clark subdivision trips up on triangles, so you're good on avoiding them. However it also trips up on odd-valence vertices. Normally in a pure quad mesh, every vertex has 4 edges connected to it, so the valence of the vertex is 4. You have built a bunch of 3- and 5-valence vertices in here, which are usually not as bad as tris outright, but will still cause waviness in the subdivided mesh output. Since pure 4-valence quad topologies are generally impractical, there's often no substitute for just winging it and taking the waviness and letting it be the model feature where necessary, building the topology adjustment around there.
    I'm also not convinced that the industry should stick to Catmull-Clark subdivision invented in the 70s. I my experiments, i had the impression (but no mathematical proof) that the behaviour of the subdivision could be improved by introducing normal-based displacements that would depend on local topology and would also help the subdivision be somewhat volume preserving, since Catmull-Clark tends to deflate a lot. It's not like research ended there, there was Stam/Loop 2002 "Quad/Triangle Subdivision
    ".

    • @anotheratreyu742
      @anotheratreyu742 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well hurry up and develop a subdiv plugin for us all to use then dammit lol. XD

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does anybody bother with Gouraud shading any more, when Phong shading is superior and doesn’t cost much on modern hardware?
      Easy enough to add extra loop cuts next to the EVs to constrain their effect.
      Also, your idea about normal-based displacements reminds me of Blender’s “weighted-normal” modifier. Worth giving that a try.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lawrence D’Oliveiro Phong is an old term not really used anymore. It’s just vertex based shading or fragment shading whatever that shading is doing.
      That said. Normal light linear fragment shaded today is not more expensive than vertex shading.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You got to be kidding me, right? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phong_shading

  • @dawne2780
    @dawne2780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    INCREDIBLE. I have been watching and reading so much, and they keep showing pictures and pre-cut planes etc... your 7 min demonstration changed my life. Thanks for being someone that doesn't keep fundamental industry concepts secret

  • @canhedotricks6078
    @canhedotricks6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am a total beginner at 3D art but I just know this is one of those art videos that I would watch as an expert and go "Wow I wish I had this tutorial when I was starting out"

  • @kalvinpearce
    @kalvinpearce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not quite sure how I stumbled across this one but even as a programmer I found this incredibly clear and understandable. Thanks for helping me understand when my artists talk about retopologising and n-gons

  • @MaruskaStarshaya
    @MaruskaStarshaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's the best and simplest explanation about topology I ever found in internet. Thank you!

  • @TidusSZ
    @TidusSZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't believe no one explain these things when they teach you how to model in 3d. I've been modeling for years and now finally I've found this video. Thank you! Clear and good explained!

  • @mikeallenfpv
    @mikeallenfpv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been having trouble with my first model alone (with no tutorials) and you pretty much answered my problem after hours of trouble. Thank you sir!

  • @biju5049
    @biju5049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is a great tutorial from you, that was straight to the point.

  • @KevinSmith-qi5yn
    @KevinSmith-qi5yn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I think this is more on the beginner level not really the intermediate level. As you get more advanced, it's important to understand how to use poles to create pinch points and direct edge flow. I think an intermediate exercise would be how to use the minimal amount of faces to achieve the same effect.

    • @Hinstea
      @Hinstea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      u cant head to intermediate level without this 😅😅

  • @RonnieBanerjee007
    @RonnieBanerjee007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember coming to this video from a question I asked in reddit, someone helped me to this, and then i also shared this video a ton to whoever has asked me help about topology, people only do this when videos are NOT crap, this video is precious. ❤

  • @scottcourtney8878
    @scottcourtney8878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This series might be the very best topo guidance I've seen anywhere. Thanks so much for sharing.

  • @lenstobrush7266
    @lenstobrush7266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great tutorial, ive spent literally hours making sure my edge loops did make it round my models so they all connected up. Now I can just cut them off at source. Cheers bud.

  • @dariusz.9119
    @dariusz.9119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I got this in my recommendations and I was like "Nah, I'm too tired to watch tutorials" but then I saw a 6 minutes in the title and decided to go for it and I'm glad I did. I would have missed a really amazing lesson. Thank you!

    • @Kyrelel
      @Kyrelel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could have just added it to your "Watch Later" list

    • @dariusz.9119
      @dariusz.9119 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kyrelel In theory, yes, i could, but in reality my "watch later" list is the black box of youtube. Anything that goes in is never to be seen again

  • @AJ-xx5ik
    @AJ-xx5ik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best 3D modeling video I've ever seen. Straight, to the point, delivering one message = you don't have to have those damn edge loops going all around your model

  • @t.k.abrams4720
    @t.k.abrams4720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have totally made topology so much easier than anyone else. Thanks for this

  • @donaldkhogan
    @donaldkhogan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jaw dropped at 2:50 and stayed there through 5:05. I feel like you just taught me how to do the Rubix cube in 10 seconds. An excellent illustration of the principles, thank you!

  • @coldspade1590
    @coldspade1590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im gonna have to watch this like a billion more times because i dont even know what topology is but hopefully this will help fix some problems i find in my models.

  • @Selanyx
    @Selanyx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've had problems with multiple edge loops going around my models since I started and couldn't figure out how you actually should do it. This really helped me thank you.

  • @kaksspl
    @kaksspl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been looking for this exact knowledge for years. I kind of found the 1 to 3 method once, but 1 to 2 was always nightmare for me. I'm so glad YT recommended me this.

  • @hebermoreno7963
    @hebermoreno7963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I didn't realize how much I needed this explanation. There's no doubt that simplicity is the maximum sophistication.
    Thank you very much, I'm saving the thumbnail so I can always go back to remember exactly how to deal with topology.

  • @arloc_official
    @arloc_official 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is one of the most valuable tutorials for topology. it helped me alot in my workflow. thanks!

  • @vaepuer2290
    @vaepuer2290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been doing 3D for about 5 years now and I've never seen something like this. Thank you!

  • @ltf007-dz6
    @ltf007-dz6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank God TH-cam didn't suggest me this video 5 years later, I really needed such explanation. Great video!

  • @anishagrawal711
    @anishagrawal711 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am glad i found this
    it was very helpful
    Iam using blender from a month
    And after reading comments i think iam lucky that i did not found it after server year of experience
    Its just a month and i was searching for retopology techniques and i found this most helpful video
    THANKS A LOT

  • @TheShinsakuto
    @TheShinsakuto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think the easiest way to think about it is this: Each quad has 2 edges perpendicular to the direction of the topology which i call "front egdes" and the other edges I call "side egdes". Whenever you change the amount of faces, you turn one edge to be diagonal making up a front edge for one and a side edge for another quad. So if you want one more face, make one side edge to a front edge and you have one more front edge, hence one more quad, or reverse etc.

    • @CivicYt
      @CivicYt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      All I hear is: edge edge face edge quad quad lol (beginner here)

    • @firefly618
      @firefly618 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment made me understand not only the video itself, but why people use quads in the first place!

  • @SkelexIsHere
    @SkelexIsHere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant! I've never thought about it this way. I think I've probably accidentally done something similar while trying to clean up messy topology, but this really does change how I will think about approaching this problem in the future. Thank you!

  • @PinkeySuavo
    @PinkeySuavo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I paused at 0:08 and tried to recreate this. I had a hand with like 15 vertices loop trying to connect it to 6 vertices loop of the arm. I somehow managed to reduce 15~ vertices to 8 vertices and 6 vertices I increased to 8. Such satisfaction when I connected them! Although somehow the topology doesn't feel to look very good, but the overall result satisfies me. Thank you very much!

  • @JakMesh
    @JakMesh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this amazing honestly. an eye opener for me. Thanks very much for this tip.

  • @Chevifier
    @Chevifier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude, I randomly clicked on this. I have no regrets. This will come in handy. Thank you.

  • @sauwensvk7589
    @sauwensvk7589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    While applying this method isn't going to be simple 100% of the time, the principle is what matters. Don't think about deleting this video... regardless of its quality, you are implanting an important understanding of quads and polys and a smart way of thinking about the topology itself. Thank you!

  • @awhellyeah543
    @awhellyeah543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely blew my mind. Doing fingers is always a pain in the butt

  • @Mayeru
    @Mayeru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    i didn 't understand anything but i'm still going to save this for whenever i start using blender.

    • @jaydenstorace3218
      @jaydenstorace3218 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you started Blender yet?

    • @Mayeru
      @Mayeru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jaydenstorace3218 this is me from the future, i have not : ) i suck

    • @fadethecreator
      @fadethecreator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mayeru just do the donut tutorial, trust me it'll save your life if you're actually ever expecting to use blender. Patience and that tutorial will help a lot. It taught me a lot of the basics.

    • @Mayeru
      @Mayeru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fadethecreator the donut tutorial? is it one of the quickstarts from Blender documentation?

    • @fadethecreator
      @fadethecreator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mayeru blender guru’s world famous donut tutorial, that’s the holy grail of starting points for many blender users. Blender guru is truly one of the best, takes the time to explain why he does what and assumed you knew nothing about blender before doing that particular tutorial. So if you’re ever going to use blender in life, be it this day, month, or some other year, just do yourself the major favor of starting there. Blender guru commented on this video too, so you can see that up there if you want.

  • @jenchristensen66
    @jenchristensen66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has baffled me for so long!. Thank you for explaining it so clearly :-)

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks :)

    • @waterpicker6879
      @waterpicker6879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me with modeling minecraft block models voxel by voxel by hand.

  • @markzaikov456
    @markzaikov456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just recently I started trying out blender and did a really wonderful donut.
    Just last night I went full on solo mode and tried to model my own phone. And oh boy! How badly I need this video as the loop cuts are everywhere! THANK YOU!

  • @Spec1alDel1very_
    @Spec1alDel1very_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ive come back to this video a few times just to keep this straight in my head. so simple but when modelling i get so confused on topology. thanks for uploading this video!

  • @pangolinproductions576
    @pangolinproductions576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been avoiding learning this skill. Thanks for posting it!

  • @thomasappel2973
    @thomasappel2973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Very underrated channel amazing videos, 1 minor thing to improve the videos on i would say is improving the background audio

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you. I now have a proper studio mic so the audio issues have been sorted.

  • @skippythpp5480
    @skippythpp5480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for making this short video, I really hate it when i have to sit through 30 minutes just for someone to get to the point, you really wasted no time! Appreciate it brother 🙏

  • @MizardTheWizard
    @MizardTheWizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is exactly what I needed. Great job dude. Kept on looking at my loop cut model thinking "there has to be a better way." Thank you for sharing!

  • @MachiavelliNZ
    @MachiavelliNZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just used this to make my first fork. Damn it's a sexy fork. Dat topology.

  • @davexbit
    @davexbit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This has been the best demo so far to explain philosophically the breakdown of 5-3-1-3-5 topology! I practicing now. Thanks!!!

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh man i've been through this so many times. i sometimes manage to get out on my own but sometimes i just give up and include the loops in my model geometry and go with it. this is going into my favorites

  • @davidmurphy563
    @davidmurphy563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh my god, this is life changing. I've watched it three times now.
    Thank you so much man.

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Glad you found it helpful.

    • @davidmurphy563
      @davidmurphy563 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DECODEDVFX Oh man, you have no idea... So many times I've stared at my pristine model for ten minutes before giving up and hitting ctrl R knowing that the topology will never be perfect again but consoling myself that this huge compromise is needed keep ngons off my mesh.
      I owe you a pint.

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidmurphy563 A lot of people struggle with good topology, including myself - so you're not the only one.

    • @davidmurphy563
      @davidmurphy563 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DECODEDVFX Tell me one thing. I've thought a lot about this. What is your take on starting from a primative and dicing vs starting from a plane and extruding?
      When I first look at an object this is the first decision I take (I have a bias to primative because you can control symmetry more precisely) but - say if I'm making a car - I'll choose planes because I know I'll need to get the edge flow of the topology to match the fundamental geometry of the object. Although, I'm thinking that what you've taught me here may change that.
      What's your approach?

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I generally start with whichever default shape most closely resembles the object I'm modeling - usually a cube or cylinder. I hardly ever model from a plane.

  • @andresz8067
    @andresz8067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Well he didn't lie, my life has been changed and I am now illuminated with forbidden knowledge

  • @rajabwali3373
    @rajabwali3373 ปีที่แล้ว

    First three minutes of the video and I'm already wowed. Thank you so much, as a beginner who was struggling to make clean topology, this was helpful.

  • @AnimeGIFfy
    @AnimeGIFfy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was probably the most useful thing i have even seen about blender. Thanks.

  • @Alex-by4zv
    @Alex-by4zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that was very useful indeed, thank you

  • @hotfever
    @hotfever 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is genius! You're a genius!

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hardly a genius, but thank you!

  • @Jaskatzu
    @Jaskatzu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen those charts you showed at the beginning of the video multiple times, but never could quite put them into practice. Very helpful stuff!

  • @ensardegirmen
    @ensardegirmen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started learn blender a few month ago. I just need to say this video is life saver for me. Thanks a lot.

  • @JTCF
    @JTCF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember watching a video of someone modeling the Sanic. He made a lopp cut just above the eyee for the eyeball to fit and this loop cut had gone all the way down through neck, around the body and then back to the neck and ended above the other eye. It was hilarious.

  • @txlec99
    @txlec99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    A true master of toplogy, respect and salute. Thank you so much for solving the most difficult mystery for the NOOBIES, trully appreciated and will forever remember the NAME, of the master. Thank you.

  • @abhaynath5833
    @abhaynath5833 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is hands down the best video on topology IMO.

  • @Magnum0peth
    @Magnum0peth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This explanation is amazing. I'd seen those topology images before but now it finally makes sense.
    Thank you for this.

  • @Alex-by4zv
    @Alex-by4zv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    ...and it's actually a sub from me as well. I like where this is going and I'm pretty tired of donut gurus. Keep the great work!

  • @CayenneTravels
    @CayenneTravels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done with a great practical example, thank you! Subbed.

  • @lethn2929
    @lethn2929 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's amazing how many tutorial makers shamelessly skip over these important details when it comes to topology, they're all about showing you the fastest solution possible thanks to the youtube algorithm and don't go enough into basic topology and I've found this to be the most useful video overall for explaining topology properly even if it is a basic concept I particularly like that you went into the hand example which most people don't bother with.
    As an extra tip for noobs, if you guys are following along and doing a full human model like I am, separate your extruded hand in edit mode to prevent any weirdness with loop cuts and not let anything interfere with your main human model, you then should be able to reconnect your hand to the arm and it will be fine. Assuming of course you don't overdo it with the initial polygon count and make things too hard for yourself.
    Also at 2:33 he accidentally skips over an important point, the tool he uses is "New Face From Edges" to make the new face and the shortcut is F I believe that's what he did as I got the same result.

  • @ANJ_gaming
    @ANJ_gaming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a beginner with no concept of this, I gotta say, this is a game changer. I've never modeled anything too complex and one of the main reasons for that is because once I started getting detailed and adding loop cuts and seeing all these loop cuts cutting around my whole model with no real purpose in most places I knew I was doing something wrong but I didn't know what, now I know. Thank you for this quick guide, totally ups my game.

  • @taskanawa9604
    @taskanawa9604 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    never delete this video

  • @hydraulichydra8363
    @hydraulichydra8363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At first I didn't quite get the point of what you were saying. I was like "at 1:27 just dissolve all those loop cuts."
    It wasn't until I got to the end (and tried it myself) that I realized that doing it your way results in all quads!

    • @TroglodyJeej
      @TroglodyJeej 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi ! I'm still stuck on the same initial thought, what is so great about quads?

    • @TroglodyJeej
      @TroglodyJeej 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there cases where we're forced to reduce the number of faces manually like this?

    • @hydraulichydra8363
      @hydraulichydra8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TroglodyJeej you can loop cut through them easier.
      With a square or a quad, going through the "middle of it" is easy because a line can just go in one edge and out the opposite.
      If you go in one edge of a triangle or pentagon, there are two possible edges it can come out of. This means Blender gets confused if you try to loop cut (CTRL-R) it.
      Also I think quads and squares deform much easier to it makes animation better.
      (Ofc when it's rendered it's turned into triangles anyway, but at that point you're done working with it so it doesn't matter)

  • @UnIockables
    @UnIockables 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still come back to this video every now and then, still so helpful. Thank you again

  • @Dexter01992
    @Dexter01992 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I have begun modelling since 2 months and people kept telling me "the topology here and here is bad" but they never told me *why* it's bad. At least thanks to this video now I have half idea how to split faces correctly.

  • @centerpoint2844
    @centerpoint2844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I don't even know what topology is, how was I recommended this?

    • @Cyber_Kriss
      @Cyber_Kriss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Blender has chosen you

    • @aonodensetsu
      @aonodensetsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i downloaded blender today since I heard filmic got integrated, now it shows me this, yeah okay i'll start blending

    • @yourpersonalspammer
      @yourpersonalspammer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      seems like Google is trying to manipulate people into certain topics/jobs..

  • @manojlogulic4234
    @manojlogulic4234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Besr video i saw in a while, thank you i sub, liked and share! Keep making those short videos of topology fixing.

  • @eaofdeath187
    @eaofdeath187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining this, as someone that started learning blender a week ago this is a good habit to learn early.

  • @Arrviasto
    @Arrviasto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I barely do any modelling, but thanks to TH-cam now I know the solution to the problem I didn't knew I had.

  • @alexocurance3951
    @alexocurance3951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Noice , helpfull explanation keep doing these!!

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. I plan on doing a few videos on topology.

  • @Cruentus
    @Cruentus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Do the changes in direction have an impact on smooth shading?
    I saw a tutorial once, where they talked about engons and they teached and showed that there is more of a problem with topology direction changes.
    Anyone got experience with that?

    • @Dark-eb7lm
      @Dark-eb7lm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it does, and there is no escape from it sadly

  • @ZaidanMhmood
    @ZaidanMhmood 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a beginner. While your video wasn't easy for me, but it definately got me one step closer to understanding topology. I kind of get the concept of disconnecting the side that doesn't need too much toplogy from the one that needs it with quads. I think it's a big lesson for me, so thank you!

  • @purgebs101
    @purgebs101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best and most practical video on topology I've seen yet.

  • @Wzxxx
    @Wzxxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Topology is what kills me. Very interesting

  • @Shaymin1010
    @Shaymin1010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I came here thinking about open and closed sets, Hausdorff spaces and blabla
    I've been bamboozled

  • @legice
    @legice 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was the thing that was missing in my life... after 10 years, somebody finally explained this like a normal person!

  • @JordanService
    @JordanService 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I have been modeling for 19 years and this is best and fastest video on this topic I have seen! Very nice.

  • @KaitheArtGuy
    @KaitheArtGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    TL;DR: 5 or more edges in a face is bad
    Take a second and convert them into quads

  • @realjayjobes1849
    @realjayjobes1849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:47- what it’s like on shrooms

    • @DECODEDVFX
      @DECODEDVFX  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😂

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And to the right of your comment:
      3D Topology Explained for the Beginner, By - Reishi Mushroom Studios

  • @ittueaday
    @ittueaday 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still pretty new to blender, currently for my first self project I'm modeling a car, whenever I wanted 2 faces into one, I would just delete the edges, I've added tons of unnecessary topology that's ruined a bunch of other stuff, glad I came across this video super useful 😃

  • @whincorbin1553
    @whincorbin1553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude this video right here helps so much nobody explains how they come to their conclusions and make it really hard to understand the process to be able to come up with these solutions for yourself they never explain what logic they are following thanks a bunch