Best Moment: 1945 Robert Rauschenberg Oil Portrait
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Learn about the moment our guest's dad became a work of art! Gene Shapiro appraises a 1945 Robert Rauschenberg oil portrait in Green Bay, Hour 3.
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The history behind it made the painting even more amazing...
Well, Hello Sailor...
My first thought of the portrait was that it’s resembling an incredibly handsome man. Strikingly handsome. Then I find out that they were both sailors, sitting close together showing a great friendship. Art is a crazy thing... 😏
The possibilities boggle the mind ...lol
@pullupseattle true, but I'm only putting lotion on my guy friends back if it's spray
@pullupseattle Google it and find out...
hmmm
Greaaattt friendssss
It is always so amazing to connect an artist, or historic artist, with their muse in real time. Great portrait. Wonderful story.
His father was beautiful, would love to hear more about their friendship and navy experiences.
Gorgeous painting. Those eyes!
His dad was a looker.
a lot thinner than his son
Yeah, the apple fell from that tree, bounced down the road, into the back of a trans continental truck that was put on a ferry and sailed to Australia.
or robert cant paint lol
Definitely got bitches back in his days
@@clivet3846 OOF
Amazing. I worked for Rauschenberg in the mid 80's. He was an incredible guy and not stuck up. He deserved his fame. RIP Bob
So did I. I worked with him on Set, Reset and also on ROCI. I worked with him in the NY studio and also visited him on Captiva where he did a panel of me that is now part of the 1/4 Mile Painting. I know David White as well. Bob was an incredible artist and wonderful human being. I was very honoured to have known him. I wasn't aware that Bib had painted portraits. It really is a stunning painting. Not just because it was painted by Robert Rauschenberg.
You suck him off
Did no one else catch that this may have been the artist's first painting??
Yeah, surprisingly they didn’t mention that again. Was clearly in the story.
I think "earliest known" would be the safe term and it may not even be correct. May be a good reason the professional just steered clear of that bit, I'd expect the curator would have noted as much on the 2001 authentication. In any case pinning a first to any artist is kinda shady, they all have tons of work made before any decent work ever comes to fruition.
@@themonkeyhand Another good reason to save your kids kindergarten artwork...might be worth a fortune someday!
I love this portrait! I love the colors ... very unusual!
the resemblance of the man and his father in the painting is striking.
THE COMMENTS... excuse me, this is a PBS show, yall calm down.
I know😆. Bunch of horn- dogs on here.
"Became friends"
look at what that man managed to do with a paintbrush in his spare time as a gift to a fellow serviceman during ww2. that represents perfectly what makes a piece of art valuable to me. what an unbelievable object.
From his realism to abstraction! He always had great technique.
Wow, I like his excitement and that means his WW2 veteran dad was still alive!
That was incredible. So happy for the man and his family! 😊
Bob (Rauschenberg) must have had a painful crush on the dude, Navy and all. So he just went home and painted out of memory the guy in the most hunklike form possible. God knows what else he was doing in that night when he was painting the 'sailor'!
clarence spencer no he said a couple days later he painted that. Sounds like that was his first painting. That’s a very very important painting in his career. Plus obviously very sentimental to the father who kept it hanging his whole life. I think they were very close.
you are right. Bob and the sailor were very close. probably, Bob was even "closer" than the sailor.
hope he bought dinner at least
@@richardperez9068 they usually do, unless they are cheap amateurs.
@Karamjeet Bedi more likely, being "boned" by the muscular sailor daddy
Love to watch Antiques Roadshow 😊😀👍
That painting's eyes were captivating. A very attractive man too.
Its epic the streaking yellowy background and the black leaf taunting the easy road
His dad was most handsome.
His dad had movie star looks.
This man's father was hot
Stunning.
"may I ask, the $2 picture that was hung beside this one, what was the subject of that painting?"
"some broad by the name of mona, kinda weird though, we could never figure out if she was smiling."
" it was right by that $1 picture with the blue swirling skies and cypress trees"
Beautiful love story! Did he ever came out?
“My dad will be really really excited to hear that.” Will be, meaning, his dad is still alive!
"Would" not "will".
Will be 😯
@@Quetzalcoatl83 You May want to listen to it again. He definitely said "will be" & even my closed captioning shows "will be".
@@B_Bodziak, I must have missed where the man says his Dad is dead.
My closed captioning and eats say it’s would be. Not will be unfortunately!
There is a village in Bedfordshire, England, called Milton Ernest.
Lord there are some really inappropriate comments about the son's handsomeness relative to his father's. Being kind is not actually that difficult.
I think the son seems like a very caring man. He seems very kind.
@@TimboCanada Eric's talking about the people making "inappropriate comments", not the son himself. Though on a side note, I surely think most people making the comments mean well.
Yep, it sucks when your parents are gorgeous and you're not- believe me, you don't need constant reminders you're not in their class.
Being kind is an easy thing to do, but being honest is difficult.
@@slc2466 If he were younger and he worked out he would actually look good. A lot of good-looking people are also hidden behind obesity.
I'll be honest, I had never heard the name of the artist. But to think you have a before-fame work of an artist who later became famous - that shows a bit of their way to fame, their youth, their development. It's the beginning of a journey, if you will. Much more exciting than just a painting that someone bought.
Gi think Robert was in love your dad man it's bloody obvious from the portrait
David Fenton thank you. I thought so too. I really wanted that history.
David Fenton because to me it sounds like he started his art career with his father. By what he said. They went to an art show together before they shipped out. And then he says “I think I can do that”. And I mean to me he said a couple days later he tried to do a portrait and so his dad was his first painting period. I think out of everything men do before shipping out going to art shows with men and painting them sounds pretty special. I would think that would make this his most valuable piece of art!
Rauschenberg was gay, so if not in love, likely attracted to him at least. It shows in the work.
It might be worth a lot, but this is something that should never be sold, given the family connection I'd keep this as an heirloom and write a will to ensure it wasn't sold for profit.
@@thruErinseyes That is correct, We humans tend to be inspired by people, things and time we love, lmao...So I do not diregard the idea that what you said, was exactly how it happened.
@@kimaboe I also thought - how dafuq he could sell the portrait of his dead father painted by an famous painter ?!?
What an ignorant jerk this dude is 😆
Money over everything 🤦🏼♂️
What an interesting story and such rich history.
Yep. He was. I thought I was alone in making that connection.
Rauschenberg graduated from the same high school as my Aunt Aline in Port Arthur, TX.
Oh my god they were room mates.
Wow! What a beautiful man!
A man is called beautiful is not something positive to a man.
@@seanleith5312 if a woman says it, yes it is
So nice that the first thing he thought of after hearing the price was his father
Wow, Daddy is a Hunkosaurus Rex! Meow!
How about it virtually being his first real painting. Only $60,000?
thats a estimate. At auction maybe 200-300. who knows.
The dude is an absolute smokeshow!
what is a smokeshow
@@stoolpigeon4285 use google, cmon now
@@cartermacewen3086 An attractive person. Hmm, I'm glad 'smokeshow' is never used in the UK. It's a silly term. There's no smoke, there's no show
@@stoolpigeon4285 Do you also take it someone described as 'hot' burns fingers to the touch? Let's not take figures of speech too literal.
@@cagnazzo82 Just never heard of 'smokeshow'. Never used in UK, so I wondered what it was
Cool
Pendleton is in Oceanside, not San Diego
Pendleton is not in San Diego.
Holy Cow I love it 🥰
I'm guessing they were more then 'friends'..
The funny thing is that the painter painted parts of his own face in the portrait, like the nose and eyebrows.
What an odd reaction after thinking it was worth $500 lol
Yeh, the reaction wasn't convincing. It's a fantastic picture and he knew what it was worth. This was staged for the program.
Bad acting...he knew value already
I don’t disagree, but keep in mind that he probably doesn’t truly care about monetary value. It’s a piece of his family’s history and he likely has no intent to ever sell it. He had more of a “that’s cool, but I’ll never sell it” reaction in my opinion.
dude knew it was more than 500..just go on the internet..even a low ball value 20000
They should save it. Will be worth way more in the future.
This guy looks really a lot like the sketch by police of DB cooper.
My dad was a Navy corpsman as well, he was assigned to a marine unit in the Pacific Islands. He carried an M1 A much lighter than the M1 assigned to the Marine unit to which he was attached to. As such it often went on patrol. I believe my dad said it also had a 30 round clip.
3:20
I would have thought a lot higher than that estimate.
Set up...
Wow, it took my breath away when I heard how much it’s worth! And that’s a conservative auction estimate!
...so who wants to tell him that Rauschenberg and his dad were boning?
Nandi the Bull 🤣🙈
He can bone me for 60k
@@jontest5718 I can do £4.50 Jon.
@@kumquatmagoo Paypal gift please.
Screaming... My gaydar is never wrong! Looked at the picture of them sitting together... Looked the artist up, and no surprise, in the last 25 years of his life he had a same sex partner. I just have to laugh because you're probably right! 😂
His father was gorgeous
Wow.. I almost thought for a second that this was a portrait painting of me. Haha 😂
Interesting that the owner who was the son of the subject said he thought it was only worth $500.
~~ Hard to believe 99 people gave this a thumbs down ? ?... Takes all kinds to make a world.
My grandpa died 1945 American Navy, crazy he coulda been 5 foot from these guys, well its fun to imagine.
A Rauschenberg for $40-60K??? I think he's off by a million dollars...
The experts always lowball because the market could change within a year of their appraisal. That and they can't control what the max price will be at auction because a massive bidding war can take place. I remember watching a vid of an item that started bidding at $750,000... and it closed at $3.5 MILLION. Can't predict that.
Hello, Mr Auction site!!
Dont sell it!
I would have thought it was worth more
Was this in OK Harris
I’ve never heard of him.
Looks like something made for Devo.
Scrolling quickly through the comments it's funny that having seen the portrait and then the two men sitting together that...well nobody put two and two together. Those eyelashes and "chumminess" immediately sent my gaydar off so I Googled it. You should too. Rauschenberg and his circle's style don't really appeal to me, though Jaspar Johns's work is approachable.
did he just say 'earliance'?
Yes I thought he was absolutely stunningly handsome.....until I saw the photo of the two men sitting next to each other.....hmmmm.🙄
Absolutely homoerotic. No question. No problem.
Im jst saying! That portrait looks eerily similar to D.B. Cooper's portrait. Hmmm!
😂
The colors reminds me of JoJo
HIS DAD WAS HOT!
Wow! I Bet the painter could even make ME Look GOOD!!
Look like comedian Greg Hahn
Really? 40-60 thousand for a Rauschenberg? I though it would be more.
da96103 especially because it sounds like that was his first painting ever.
"In the navy..."
LMFAO!
He did not think that painting was worth $500. He had that foundation sign that photo it thinking it's worth a few hundred bucks? Come on! What a weird lie.
Eh? Please explain.
He just did!
I'm confused. His comment made no sense to me. @@cappystrano1
Lol.... Predictable ,
"Gee whiz i had no idea of the real value of this well documented whatever "
Well documented does not equal valuable
What do you think it is worth?
I don't know? 4 cents?
No, it is worth 14749823479282938479 dollars?
Wow, what a surprise!!!!!
Never heard of Robert Rauschenberg. Will Google it right now.
He's overrated.
I always worry they spit on the items....
I'm fascinated the owner is sitting so close the painting, that he's literally spraying it with his breath. Hopefully hearing what its worth he'll put it under glass. 🤦♂
You got a joint man ?
They must stage these things because a painting like that would be easy to appraise.
JoJo look
I guess this guy is the mailman's son
No. Its just 1950s diet versus 2020 diet. He would look totally different if he lost weight.
That's so mean but I can't stop laughing LOL
Looks like the portraits they used to crank out for American legion halls. No,those were a bit better.
It's a Rauschenberg and a portrait of a hot, young man. I think it would fetch more.
Gotta wonder if he has siblings or other family who are aware he’s bringing this on antiques roadshow.
Spitting image
But did he say " no homo" before painting?
Rauschenberg was gay, so I doubt either man was confused about the attraction.
He knew it was worth more than 500 come on.
Not a good rauschenberg portrait in my opinion..but the Art market is as it is.
There is nothing gayer than your best friend painting you sexier than super man and I am SO HERE FOR THE GAY SAILORS.
THIS is the SON? OMG.
I think he is from than franthisco.
Ok i'm gay, but he is such a looker.. WOW
There is a not-zero chance that this guy's dad totally got it on with Rauschenberg in the 40s. Just saying.