I-no 101 | Strategy, Combos, Overview and Pros/Cons | Guilty Gear Strive Guide
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COMBO LIST, UPDATES TO INO GUIDE AND TMESTAMPS BELOW. I-no is a rushdown character with plenty of options to keep up the pace of the match and play at all ranges. I hope you enjoy playing I-no as much as I do. Any questions, please leave in the comments or stop by my Twitch ( / diaphone_ )
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00:00 Intro
00:36 Overview (Pros/Cons)
06:21 Normals
------ 06:25 5P
------ 06:33 2P
------ 07:11 6P
------ 08:33 5K
------ 08:47 2K
------ 09:35 2P
------ 10:03 f.S
------ 10:16 c.S
------ 11:24 2S
------ 12:09 5HS
------ 12:18 2HS
------ 13:04 6HS
------ 14:21 5D
------ 14:58 j.P
------ 15:07 j.K and j.S
------ 15:57 j.H
------ 16:30 j.D
17:34 Specials
------ 17:37 Chemical love (214K)
------ 18:57 Antidepressant scale (214P)
------ 20:44 Stroke the big tree (236S/HS)
------ 24:24 Sultry performance (j.236K/S/HS)
------------ 27:59 Supers
---------------- 28:01 Megalomania (632146HS) (11F startup btw)
---------------- 30:10 Ultimate fortissimo (632146S)
31:17 Combos
------ 31:34 bnbs
------ 33:04 On counter hit
------ 35:03 Corner combos
------ 37:25 RC combos
38:11 Summary / Gameplan
40:39 Outro
Combo listing + more notes:
docs.google.com/document/d/1n...
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Hey Diaphone! I am labbing the CH -> 236H -> microwalk -> 6H combo on everyone, and I actually can get the 6H on May, but very inconsistent for Millia and Ram.
Also funny interaction with Anji. 6H lands inconsistently on Anji, and the follow up stroke H always misses. That is kinda sad.
Anyway, nice guide! Learnt a lot from it.
Thanks! I actually been labbing out a bit more... it’s more nuanced than I thought. Turns out for may, if you do it immediately it works, but if you microwalk it drops!? LOL
@@Diaphone That is what I noticed. It looked like when she gets hit, her feet hurt box extends out for a split second? And lets 6H hit her during that time.
Do you still go for these 6H on these characters? Or is it too inconsistent to be used in actual play? If so, what are some other options you would use?
Thank you again for the guide. I be looking forward to your future videos.
The only other option is 2H into 236s/214k. Or less optimal variants or RC. So yea I think if it can work you should always go for 6HS, the reward is just too high. There’s also character specific ranges that h stroke into 6HS works.. I haven’t fully labbed it x.x
I can't ever hit the 6H on Ram or Milia or Faust, and Anji doesn't have 236 followup so I do hcl into note instead for him. I can hit it on Ino but it's SUPER tight (like 1 or 2 frames of walking I think). Everyone else seems pretty easy to connect with different timings. May, axl, zato seem to be a fast timing (like maybe no microwalk at all) and leo, sol, ky, nago, gio seem to require the microwalk slower timing. Chip and pot seem to have very easy timing (can microwalk or not).
@@stevenluoma1268 OK I labbed it out, turns out if you have a CH before the H stroke or not determines who can get hit.. findings below
6HS CH 1 Hit -> H STBT ->
6H microwalk very hard on: Faust, Ramlethal, Microwalk Hard on I-no Anji
Needs instant timing: May
Can do w/e: Chipp, Pot, sol, ky, axl, Milia, zato, gio, nago, leo,
H STBT:
Can’t do: Faust, Ramlethal, Milia. I-no
Needs instant timing: May, axl, zato
Needs microwalk leo, sol, ky, nago, gio
Can do w/e: Chipp, Pot, Anji (6HS H stroke doesnt work, do HCL)
H stroke non CH has less time to microwalk..
Hope that makes more sense...
Man Im so glad theres a content creator I like who plays my character
amazing guide
Yoo!
Excellent guide! As a new I-no player, I just wanted to share some things that I think might help other new players.
1. An easier version of the combo at 32:06: If you're having trouble getting the timing down for the ender - j.H (OTG), you can use 2S instead and it only does 1 less point of damage. HS will net you the most damage (104) but I'm not sure if it works on every character. I tested both on I-no and both work.
2. You can get in free damage after a throw by using any of the following: HS, 2S, S Stroke, 66 > j.H (OTG)
3. I noticed that a lot of people tend to mash 2P when they get hit by I-no's j.S and if you're j.S is too high it takes longer for I-no to get back on the ground. So if they're mashing 6P, there may be instances where they trade with your follow ups or sometimes even interrupt your pressure entirely. Try to get your j.S to hit their upper body and you should be good to follow up with whatever.
4. I'm sure this is common to all 2D fighters but coming from Tekken this is kind of new for me. You can buffer the inputs for your supers (quarter circle motion) during hover dash right before you land. Before your j.S connects you should already have decided what you want to follow up with. For example, if I want to do Fortissmo after j.S connects, I'll buffer the quarter circle motion during the animation of j.S. If they block, I'll be hold back so I'm safe, and if I see it connect, I finish the input for the super. I was baffled by how a lot of I-no players were hit confirming on reaction, and it's just flowcharting what you want to do if your move connects.
Thanks for the tips! My recommendation is that if you have trouble with the j.h OTG just go for meaty note, the oki after OTG 2s isnt very good
You deserve way more views on this one, currently it's the best i-no guide on youtube imo.
2 years later. Her 6p is still the go-to mash out option
Glad i found you via Twitch. Great rundown on the essentials and making it easily digestible, thanks a lot for making this I-no guide!
Holy cow thanks for giving such a detailed guide and description not only in the video but the video description as well.
Thanks dude! This guide finally was able to cover all the blank points of the character! Can't wait to get into the game and try couple of things myself. Good work! Much appreciated !
Thank you! I’m in the 9th floor now and I’m sure this will elevate my gameplay a lot. Appreciate the work you are doing
As a day 1 I-NO main, I'm gonna give you guys some advice for using antidepressant scale. You have to and I mean Have to go into the training room/Dojo and learn to full-screen arc antidepressant scale If you're playing as I-no you will run into this problem. People are going to Jump over your projectiles at any moment and Be right in your face. Learn to put the projectile in a position where they have no other choice but to block it. On wake up make it go low so that it hits them meaty( If you don't it will fly over their heads and you'll get punished). Mid-screen, make it go up and straight so that they can't jump over it.
Fullscreen Make it rainbow, when they see it going up, it will get discourage them from jumping but they don't know it's coming back down and by the time they realize that they'll be blocking it and taking a mix. You can even make it go up and over Ky's projectile to punish him. Guys, get into the training room and practice this, it's a very valuable tool to have knowing how to instantly lock down your opponents with antidepressant scale. It's not that hard to learn, just takes a little practice. You won't be able to rush people down if you can't make them sit down. That's why the devs let us control antidepressant scale to that degree, As an I-no player don't just throw the fireball use it with intent. You can even purple roman cancel antidepressant scale to create full screen 50/50's set the fireball to go low purple roman cancel it then run a little bit in front or even behind it while you go high and watch them guess.
P.S Keeping Chip, Giovanna, and Milla on the ground Is impossible without well-timed and placed Anti Depressant scales. The goal of I-No is to slow down the opponent and then Kick it into High gear with her mix remember that.
Control the screen that's what Anti Depressant Scale is meant to do. Great video BTW
Super helpful I’ve only really played fighterz so I’m not that experienced in fighting games and antidepressant was super useful early on but once I hit floor 7 it felt like I was just relying on stray air hits or forward Ps I would turn into combos. I was climbing way to fast and hit the wall harder than ever and I overlooked a lot.
As someone who was a bit intimidated by all of the possibilities of I-no's kit, this video swayed me to try her out. I've been having a ton of fun with all of the mixups and mind gaming. Awesome video dude!
Thanks for the video! This really helped clarify some of the issues I couldn't quite see in my matches when I play I-No.
I can’t stop playing I-No she’s just so fun! Thanks for the vid much appreciated insight!
This is my first fighting game and I've improved so much after watching your gameplay. Thanks for the content. I-no rocks!
Bruh amazing guide!!! I've just been trial and erroring most of my matches with I-No and getting decent success but got blown up once I reached heaven. I'm going to try to incorporate some of your tips into my I-No play going forward
This helps me very much! Thank you! Regardless hope you have a wonderful rest of your day and continue being a great content creator!
Very helpful I’m stuck in floor 7 and then get demoted to 6 constantly. The vid is helping me out. Thanks and subbed
Thanks for taking your time to make this guide
Quality! I needed this guide 👍🏾
You have my utmost appreciation, thank you!
Just started to pickup I-No. Thanks for this guide!
Been following you since late GBVS. I was maining Ram already lvl 70 on the 10th floor. Doing very well with her too. But idk what it was bro. Something about watching some more of your games made me want to completely convert to playing and learning Ino. Even though she has to work harder in neutral than Ram and I’m losing a lot I live for those mixups man 🥵😂 This video has been my bible for the last few days. I just wanna say thank you diaphone for all the time you put into this guide, you truly helped so many players out there who wish to strive with Ino. U got a fan in me forever.💪🏼 Ino gang
Cool guide, learned quite a few useful things!
You make probably the best guides for mid level or advanced level players that I have seen. I loved all the granblue guides you did as well. I hope you keep making this style of content.
Thanks!
I made a wish and Lord Phone hath answered thine call. Another banger guide, salute sir.
Best guide out. Picked up ino pre patch and she felt too sluggish. After patch speed buff I'm having a BLAST. Thankyou diaphone.
Love your videos and guide. Helped me start playing with ino
I don't play I-No, but my brother does. I immediately sent him the video. He already recognized your name, too.
Amazing guide. I've been character searching for quite a while and have switch mains from Chipp to Zato and now I-No. After trying everyone out I really vibe with her, she seems to have a pretty digestible gamelan at least compared to Zato, so I decided to go for her.
Thank you for the guide it’s very much appreciated
Great guide, thank you!
Best guide of the ones I've seen
Thanks for both this guide and the Axl one, I subscribed.
0.0 You play Axl too?? Geez, guess I have to subscribe as well now..... xD
Been struggling to pick up I-no for a week now, this is helping immensely!
I just would have stuck the gameplan at the start, but that's just me.
i appreciate this guide here
contemplating whether or not to stay an i-no main a couple months in on the game, but i'mma still stick it out with her and just tighten up on the craft
Patch in a week, def stick with it!
Thank you for this.
Great guide!
I've found that playing I-No means having to take risks and going for hard combos occasionally. A lot of options rely on very small differences in spacing and timing. Just keeping her in the air after a single S overhead long enough to condition the opponent not to block high once then low is difficult enough as it is. Her mix-up game is strong but long combos on block require a lot of effort to keep up, and they aren't safe if the opponent can comprehend what's happening. Really strong in a good player's hands, and her basic game-plan is approachable by new players as well. Definitely a 2* ease of use character, but really rewarding and fun to play even at the basic level.
I thought it was a good video. Then i made it through and found out it was a great video!! Great stuff!
Thanks Dia
love the detail
Awesome guide.
Very Helpful video thanks a lot!~
Appreciate the guide
Finally I’ve been waiting
Thank you so much!
Fantastic guide. Turned me from a scribbity scrub into someone who often wins my tower matches.
Loved the video, gave me really good understanding of the character to counter her properly. Tbh, even w the guide react-blocking her is not realistic, would you mind doing a video about the mindset and risk management when blocking ino? How to option select some situation properly, when is a good ideia to mash etc
I think SonicSol has a good vid on this already or I would have done so
One nice thing about the Note control in this game, you have enough control over it, you can go up a bit, then down, and hit Potemkin / Nago in the head while avoiding flick / antiprojectile clone.
Potemkin starts feeling quite sad when they see you do that.
yeah as soon as I found out Zato has a reflect button I just move it over his head everytime, so sometimes he whiffs the reflect and I can go in for a mix, and sometimes I didn't move it up and he thought i did and got hit by it.
Yea that’s a good point. You can also angle it down and hover over the note vs zato or vs pot let them flick and stroke under
Wow...
I learned a lot of new things about I-No here
I'll definitely have to Practice her
➡️ P through Fireballs
I'm glad i'm not the only I-no that goes "blargh" during Fortissimo
Sensei out here making guides I see so I can beat him
I-No guide after Axl guide? Man, are you doing This videos specially for me? Thanks
Thanks a lot for this guide. I needed it desperately. Also orange I-no is the best I-no.
I've always been one to go for characters I like and trying to learn them, but in GG that character was Happy, and he's just unbelievably hard and hurts my fingers a lot. To the point where it made me hate this game cuz I didn't find it fun but I started trying out all the characters (although I still avoided I-no). Eventually I was so bored with the game I gave her a try and despite her being the same difficulty as Happy, everything clicked. She's so fun.
For some reason her inputs just flow super easily and Stroke the Big Tree is such an easy and fast command that always lets you either close in distance, mix up, or extends combos that it's simple but also complex. The video helps accentuates all the goodies about I-no and explains a lot. Thanks I can't wait to try a bunch of the stuff in this video and hopefully get even better.
My thanks
are you planning on making any more if these videos besides I-no and Axl? I've found both if these so helpful and I'd love if there was a Faust one I could recommend to my friend looking to main him.
Hey Diaphone, I just picked up Guilty Gear Strive Recently for my PS4 and decided to learn I-No as she’s fun to play and well, as a straight male pretty good to look at too just being honest but yeah, I won’t probably try to memorize all of these moves at once I’ll probably just stick with a few while learning the basics of the game and then add to it to patch up the holes in my gameplan as I-No as I continue to learn the game with her.
Found a meterless wallbreak combo in the corner that starts with an unlikely opener (6H), but I could see it working in some cases when your opponent tries to take their turn. The reason i think it's worth mentioning is that it does a ton of damage (247 to Sol).
6H -> delayed hcl (but they still need to be high up) -> 66 j.H -> 6H -> delayed hcl, hcl, hcl
I do a similar route but yea 6H non CH is so rare x.x
For the bnb combo I couldn't the OTG for the life of me. I changed from the j.H to a 2S and I can get the 5th hit pretty much every time now
thanks
Fantastic breakdown man.
If you are a beginner and you are unsure of where to learn the character, don't go to a combo video. Watch this instead. 100% recommended.
i will be reffering to this video for some time to come thx a lot brudda bless up
A Ky guide would be god like
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
After heavy stroke hits You can go into 6HS pretty consistently by just holding forward and mashing the heavy, It says on the combo counter that it works on may aswell (and yea the stagger recovery is set to fast)
Depends on spacing/character - most characters yea you can just mash it
Hey dia GREAT video I've been maining i-no and having so so much fun. Quick question when you say "break the divekick" for the corner combo how are you doing that exactly? Is there a special command? Thanks!!
Correct you just press a button after the divekick is hit/blocked
Just got into the game, I see guitar character I main
There's an RC combo I've been using that works on most characters when you're close to the wall where you use your body to drag them closer and get into a jH -> 6H -> hcl -> wall break. Does >200 damage but it's a bit tricky cause your dash timing matters a lot.
It goes starter -> forward rc -> dash and hold to drag them to corner -> j.H -> 6H as you hit the ground -> hcl (sometimes more than one hcl required to splat depending on opener) -> they splatted
An example from starting point midscreen:
h.stroke, microwalk (or not depending on character), 6H, 236H, 66 RC, brief pause, 66 j.H, 6H, hcl, hcl, hcl
Does 215 to sol + wall breaks from midscreen using 1 bar. Not too bad!
Do you have any tips for landing the chemical love as soon as possible in your combo at 36:01 On your video it looks like the opponent is falling into the hitbox of the chemical love but every time I do it as fast as possible the chemical love whiffs. When I try to wait slightly it ends up hitting them directly instead of them falling into it. Thanks so much for this video it was really helpful.
Yea so it’s a timing in between the two timings you are doing. It’s a bit more on the technical side. Think slight delay.
If you are playing on a controller/gamepad, put the dash micro on the right trigger. thank me later
I hope you respond to this, im new to strive and somewhat fighting games, im top 5k global in dbfz for pc and i just picked up strive. on the 236H confirm why do you not do something like 236HS > 6HS(2) > 236HS > (dl) 5HS? is it only for oki or is it because of the character size differences?
It’s for the oki. 5HS = bad oki… but good to kill. Also updating talking more about combo decision in a couple weeks on the channel
Any idea why sometimes I'm not getting a wallsplat with the RC combo you show off in the video? I'll see the same damage numbers and it feels the same, but they just don't splat (I was learning it against Sol in training room, with specifically the cr.S -> s stroke if that helps).
Edit: Looks like it might be distance to the wall.
Distance to wall or you are doing 1 hit before the rc
Thanks for the guide but one question. I can do the RC combo but my opponent is not getting wall stuck. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
Most likely you are doing with 1 hit before the RC instead of 2
Any plans on doing other characters? Love the great insight
Probably, not sure who yet
Will you being doing guides for other characters like you did for axl and ino?
Most likely I will do next DLC character next
@@Diaphone awesome can't wait!
I love you
I keep missing the 214K in the corner combos set ups. Im either doing it too early and it whiffs or too late and i cant get the air dash HS. Any tips?
Same here :(
Can someone help me, I’m trying to do the rc combo but I can’t seem to figure out how to do jumping slash that is in the video. I would greatly appreciate a hand with this :)
Out of curiosity, how long did those corner combos take for you to start landing? I generally consider my execution to be pretty solid, but I'm mad inconsistent on both corner routes.
They are pretty hard lol, definitely took a bit to get decently consistent.. and against heavy weights I sometimes go for easier combo
@@Diaphone The RC combo seems pretty hard as well, but i think i can learn it with practice. The wallbreak combo has just so many timings in there that one can fuck up. The timing on chemical is really tricky and can be done both too early or too late, and since you cant buffer the dash its also easy to fuck up. The divekick also seems like you need to cancel it just right.
@@Diaphone do you think it's worth practicing on lightweights and working your way up or will that build bad habits?
How do you do the dive kick cancel? Sorry new to the game
@@paoyeezy press the button again
i am really really struggling with the 66 > j.h i just cant hit the character either i press heavy to early and i-no falls to the floor or i press it to late and the character hits the floor and i cant connect it any tips as to what im doing wrong is it a slow sequence that my mind is racing to far ahead to do or is it a tight sequence that i need to be really precise with ?
Make sure you are timing HCL right. Make sure you practice it, you'll get it eventually. Gambatte!
how do you jump cancel out of the air spins? im trying to jump, dash and nothings working. Im trying to do the combos but just do the 236HS spin and cant get j.s to come out
Press HS after 236HS 3rd hit
wow 41 minute guide? great work! any chance for doing may next?
If I make a May guide it would probably be a 4.1 minute guide 😅. Not sure who I’ll do next, definitely won’t get around to the whole cast
@@Diaphone come on, she cant be that braindead can she?
@@moonboy2k185 Oh nah I'm just trolling. Guides can be as short/long as you wanna make them IMO, and ever character has depth to it
@@Diaphone yeah man no personal but im already tired of all these may memes and want to use her at a pro level. Im new to the game but i still want to do the best i can to optimize her
For the first BnB combo, what are the considerations when choosing whether to go for j.K or j.S to start with?
Actually gonna put out a guide talking about a bunch of things… but this included. Too much to include in reply… vid should be out in a week or so
@@Diaphone you're a beast! thanks 🤘
Does anyone know what Diaphones button layout on his arcade stick is for this game? is it as it shows on the bottom of this video?
It's standard layout w/ RC macro + Airdash on rightmost buttons
I've heard ppl say she's the second hardest char after zato. Is this true and if so is it a mechanical thing like zato or just game knowledge stuff?
I only things she’s hard at high level. She’s pretty easy to learn and has some scrub friendly tools such as stroke and divekick to cheese out wins in the meantime
sorry, im not a native english speaker. i heard what i think he said "f.d. brake" i think he meant forwards dash break, and i saw ino glowing green while dashing in the air. so fd brake would be S+HS while dashing so you can break and fall faster? is that right?
Correct (although I use p+k)
@@Diaphone thanks!
i only chose her because of her theme
Cant seem to get that i-no rc combo to work midscreen unless it pushes them to wall
Yea - midscreen you typically have to go for something shorter. The most common combo after rc is 5s 5hs H stroke can also do 5s 2s 5hs h stroke as well
Idk why. But sometimes the enemy drops out of H sultry after my J.D. I'm not sure why. Sometimes I only get 1 or 2 hits and they fall out. Anyone know why?
My guess is you aren't doing it fast enough(?)
I'm dumb and am trying to learn ino, but how are you canceling 236hs into a jp? I cant seem to do it.
You need to press H after the j. 236H to cancel it
Idk why but for the corner combo, when I do 2S into 6HS, It does 5HS instead
2S into 6HS doesn't work.. pretty sure thats not in the vid
Holy shit I can't do these corner combos at 36:00 to save my life and I've been sitting in training trying to lab one of them for hours 😭😭😭, I can't seem to ever follow up with a dash in time after a hcl or cancel the j.236s in time to get a j.S or j.HS does anyone have any tips or maybe an easier meterless wallbreak combo route?
HOLY SHIT I CAN DO IT TO SAVE MY LIFE NOW! I just has to take a break grom the game, come back, then do j.S quicker after hcl and cancel the j.236 better. Now im not a complete failure 😤😤😤
Grats! (And yea it just takes practice)
Was expecting more from counter hit 6HS
Would be nice, but it's not terrible lol
I can't for the life of me do that RC combo. oof.
how do you cancel the divekicks?
nvm, got it
What can I do after I counter with 6H?
Depends on a bunch of factors, but ch 6HS 1 hit just cancel into h stroke, see combo in vid
I want to main this character as a secondary so bad but I just can't wrap my head around any of those corner combos. None of them seem to work for me. No Matter how many times I try JK > JD just will not combo